New York Giants-Arizona Cardinals Post-Game Discussion

How will Eli let us down next week?

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In comment 11861922 bignygfan said:

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How will Eli let us down next week?

STFU Manning was one of the bright spots today, troll

this week???

In comment 11861940 Gary from The East End said:

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The problem is systemic. Reese built a 4-12 team around him. In a best case scenario, when the team is properly rebuilt in three years, will Eli still be in his prime? That's the question. The best thing that can happen is if Eli puts up a good statistical season, the Giants go 4-12, and Houston comes begging for a QB after they fall short with Ryan Fitzpatrick

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The NFL has been made into a version of soccer with helmets, everyone is trying to draw flags, its a joke

yet we'll still hear

Coughlin - we're dissapointed
Manning - we did some good things
Rolle - we have to fight harder
Somebody - hey, they get paid too

'Stop making excuses'
That's all I heard all week on this site.

So this is still Eli's fault to the vast majority of you.

Clearly he is throwing it too hard into Cruz's stomach.

that Giants have a TE!

...is that he's off to an even worse start in 2014 than 2011, which bodes well for the rest of the season. Sort of.

watching PAC-12 football games.... ugh this team is as bad as many had feared.

which is not a good sign.

On the plus side you saw what McAdoo meant when Eli is a fit for his offense. And Donnell played well as well as DRC.

its mid-september.

we had the momentum and that dropped on third down brought the Cardinals right back into it.

This is a game where we truly beat ourselves

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Not only do the Giants suck...the refs are ruining it on top of that.

a shit show. Sure the refs are throwing too many flags, but that's mostly on the league. As I said, it they're going to call illegal contact that closely, they need to change it from five to ten, maybe fifteen yards.

As far as the rest of the team, the OL got no push in the run game, and was only OK overall pass blocking. The D did pretty well overall. The weren't responsible for most of the points, and several AZ drives were kept alive by bullshit calls. The real story is all the drops.

Team is undisciplined.

keep BBI alive!!

as for the game, fuck it....get drunk...

fucking having Eli throw is pointless. QB rating drops from 90s to 83. That was one good thing from this shot show was ELi had a great game stat wise until that 2nd int.

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...the special teams play that pissed me off most was the blocked punt, which should have been a huge play for the Giants. It was clear that none of Quinn's guys had the slightest idea what they're supposed to do in that situation. That's coaching, pure and simple. Nearly four years removed from Duke Calhoun retreating from an onside kick, nothing has changed.

In comment 11862025 baadbill said:

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Sounds about right

In comment 11862010 jeff57 said:

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Like 2013 all over again

Piss poor effort to run the ball....

hard to overcome that stuff.

*Eli is this teams QB and he can play in this Offense.
*Larry Donnell
*DRC
*JPP
*McAdoo
*Giants OL

Negatives:
*Ref's, I've never seen a game with that many terrible and inconsistent calls, If i was the Commissioner they would be fired before they walked off the field.
*Perry Fewell
*Victor Cruz, stfu and and be a captain and football player. Talk is cheap.
*ST's. Terrible ST play as usual.

a game without and INT. How about winning the turnover battle? We don't even have one turnover by the D all season. They played with more spirit today.

Positives...oline pass pro better, passing game looked a little better, minus drops, Eli played fairly well and Donnell looks like the real deal.

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I say at presser...you can't win if no one catches
ball

but I'm starting to think we have a bigger coaching problem. STs still makes basic mental errors at least 2-3 times a game (this is going back through the championship runs). Defense, miscommunications, despite a number of high priced acquisitions.

I'm starting to think that the team tuned TC and co. out a couple of years ago and just haven't listened to him since.

1) Manning clearly is not the problem. This was clear to some of us before today.

2) How does Bowman not wrap up Ginn? And the punt before it was Bowman who let the ball bounce into the endzone without trying to catch it or bat it backwards.

3) F-ing Demps

4) F-ing Jennings

5) Cruz and Randle have to make those catches.

6) Is it possible Reese actually has an eye for TEs? He keeps taking shots with guys that nobody wants or expects to do anything and only Myers really failed in that regard. Now Donnell is their best offensive threat.

7) How the F is there no holding or illegal contact called when the Cardinals DB grabs Parker's arm on a ball thrown to him? With all the other BS penalties they called on both teams throughout the game, how does the blatant one not get called?

shooting themselves in the foot.

doesn't deserve this.
And the Saints are pretty good too;-).
Woohoo!

The giants played like idiots today. Sigh...

To spare him a merciless beating from JJ

Comes Tom. He's got to blast this team.

even though I don't think Eli is the problem, that first INT was his fault. His throw hit a DL in the f-ing shoulder.

I'll add that the OL did a nice job picking up the blitz most of the day and Eli looked good in the pocket.

but they gave us a gift by making that bs call after the Eli sack and fumble.


Giants beat themselves. They have no one else to blame but themselves.

Coaching is terrible in all phases

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I think everyone wanted him to come up with the catch but that was terrific pass defense on him.

And hold onto it and we win. Quinn's terrible units year after year somehow get a pass. Eli needs the weapons and they just arent there. Reese needs to take big blame. Beason comes out and our D goes to shit because Herzlich is AWFUL. No idea what to do in coverage and no speed to make any kind of play on runs. Pathetic

to overcome big mistakes - and they made about two games worth in the 4th quarter today.

In comment 11862025 baadbill said:

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First Rangers related post from BaadBill i'm on board with

I mean, Cards are working on a short week, on the road, with a backup quarterback and the first thing the D does is give up a TD. At the home opener. Fucking hell, this defense is just terrible.

The special teams. Inexplicable that Teams continue to be such a problem. What's the problem with Teams. I mean, a TD to Ginn isn't that difficult to swallow, but then on the very next play there's a fumble? Fucking hell!

And with the drops on O. You know, its on Cruz and RR. Terrible. Just terrible. Fuck you Curz. Bitching and fucking crying during the week and then shows up to drop the biggest third down of the game. Fuck you Victah!

Fuck it... fuck it, fuck it.

And fuck everyone on this team, except Eli. And Weatherford. Fuck the rest of them.