You take the good with the bad. We won two. SBs And had the best and most dominant team for a season before Plax shot himself. You can't win every year and the Giants are clearly rebuilding. The only questions now is where do we fall in the top five picks in draft and who will be our head coach next year? Giant fans we must be realistic.
Last week it was on Eli. This week special teams. Next week it will be something else, trust me.
Over the third down conversions on D.
His snarky comment directed to Fewell was, the longer the distance the opposition has the easier it is to convert.
The players don't have the talent....the players are not capable enough to win....they just aren't. They CANT do it because they're not capable of doing it......
The players don't have the talent....the players are not capable enough to win....they just aren't. They CANT do it because they're not capable of doing it......
Thank God they didn't extend Eli because they will have a legit shot at Winston in the draft to jump start a rebuild with a new coach. As far as I'm concerned, Eli can play well week after week and yet still find ways to turn the ball over and lose for some other fans. He's as big a part of the problem as anyone.
Good thing Gilbride retired, he was really holding the team back, haha
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz 8m
Coughlin: "The longer the yardage is on third down the easier it is for the opponent to make it." About his defense.
The players don't have the talent....the players are not capable enough to win....they just aren't. They CANT do it because they're not capable of doing it......
Bullshit. Why is Demps allowed to run every return out of the endzone whether he is short of the 20 yard line or not. That's his call. DRC and Prince are making the call to play off the line of scrimmage. LBers are making the call to cover Larry out there?
The players don't have the talent....the players are not capable enough to win....they just aren't. They CANT do it because they're not capable of doing it......
Yes they are.... that's BS. They dropped way too many passes today, had too many penalties at critical times and turned the bal l over at inopportune moments. They could have probably tied the game up on the drive where Jennings fumbled, even with all the other BS that happened.
Thank God they didn't extend Eli because they will have a legit shot at Winston in the draft to jump start a rebuild with a new coach. As far as I'm concerned, Eli can play well week after week and yet still find ways to turn the ball over and lose for some other fans. He's as big a part of the problem as anyone.
Good thing Gilbride retired, he was really holding the team back, haha
Dont Winston. Want OL. I would draft skill guys, but we are striking out left and right with some of these WRS (PLEASE COME BACK odb.)
Thank God they didn't extend Eli because they will have a legit shot at Winston in the draft to jump start a rebuild with a new coach. As far as I'm concerned, Eli can play well week after week and yet still find ways to turn the ball over and lose for some other fans. He's as big a part of the problem as anyone.
Good thing Gilbride retired, he was really holding the team back, haha
yes, must have been Eli's fault that Cruz forgot how to catch. There was one bad pass by Eli all day, it was deflected off a lineman and picked.
All these negatives I am getting from everyone. Seems like it was a pretty crappy game and effort by some, and especially with our favorite coach, the great and wonderful Tom "I get a pass because?" Quinn.
How many years of being horrific on Special Teams? 4, 5, more?
If we end up 4-12 this year (which I hope we do not of course) will there be wholesale changes on this supposed re-building team?
Sure would like to hear some truly positives coming from folks here.
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz 8m
Coughlin: "The longer the yardage is on third down the easier it is for the opponent to make it." About his defense.
I said that today. It's very fucking true. Draw play on 3rd and 14 and it works?!!!!????!!!!!!????!? That's the mark of a very bad team, very bad.
I fear we've dug ourselves a hole that we may not be able to get out of for years and years.
but I'm starting to think we have a bigger coaching problem. STs still makes basic mental errors at least 2-3 times a game (this is going back through the championship runs). Defense, miscommunications, despite a number of high priced acquisitions.
I'm starting to think that the team tuned TC and co. out a couple of years ago and just haven't listened to him since.
I agree. This team does not play like a well coached team.
that resembles those of the late 60's and all through the 70's, with the exception that this team actually has a quarterback.
But in that it is a team that gets blown out all too frequently, and manages to make just enough mistakes to lose the close games, it is very similar.
Perhaps some of the younger fans on this site now understand why guys that were fans during the earlier eras, were not as impatient as you during the 10-6 9-7 8-8 no play off years.
At least the team was competitive and gave you games into December to get involved in.
It is much preferable to being out of serious contention by the end of Oct, where last year's team found themselves, and where this team seems content on getting to.
Without their starting QB. Without starters on defense.
Perry Fewell needs to be fired. They were saved by a penalty at the end of the first half or else the Cardinals would have driven from their own 10 to about the Giants 20 in less than 30 seconds. That's not on the players. That's the scheme.
How can they let up the first down to the TE late in the game. The team plays well on first and second down, but breaks down on third. That's the scheme.
I know the defense didn't give up many points, but they let the Cardinals offense win the field position. AND, wasn't Fewell hired because his Buffalo teams got a lot of turnovers? When will this team get one?
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz 8m
Coughlin: "The longer the yardage is on third down the easier it is for the opponent to make it." About his defense.
I said that today. It's very fucking true. Draw play on 3rd and 14 and it works?!!!!????!!!!!!????!? That's the mark of a very bad team, very bad.
I fear we've dug ourselves a hole that we may not be able to get out of for years and years.
Jints I hate Fewells defense, and we have given up 3rd and Plus 10's for years under him, and guess what? if TC retires, he'll be the next head coach under Reese and Co
sees the game as a positive. Eli got some protection and threw the ball well. Most important: Eli is not "done."
Also, this big tight end might be the next Boss, Jake. The defensive line generated pressure and had sacks. The defensive backfield played almost as good as we had hoped subject to crazed, cocaine-snorting officials.
Turnovers can't be helped. Players who can't secure the ball will not play. Running game poor and completely lacking in explosiveness, but a lot of us already expected that from the two slow, north-south runners. I would rather have Bradshaw back with two crippled feet.
To sum, we look like we aren't going to be a humiliated, bottom feeding team. Many holes, but there is still a core.
The players don't have the talent....the players are not capable enough to win....they just aren't. They CANT do it because they're not capable of doing it......
Yes they are.... that's BS. They dropped way too many passes today, had too many penalties at critical times and turned the bal l over at inopportune moments. They could have probably tied the game up on the drive where Jennings fumbled, even with all the other BS that happened.
A dropped pass means he doesn't have the talent to catch the ball in that situation.. Does Larry Fitzgerald drop passes like that? No....why not? Because he's more fucking talented....get it? Our WRs don't have the talent/ capability of making that play....otherwise you seem to suggest that he dropped it on purpose?
Last week it was on Eli. This week special teams. Next week it will be something else, trust me.
His snarky comment directed to Fewell was, the longer the distance the opposition has the easier it is to convert.
Was he available today ! WTF why not...
I thought Cards got their fair share of bad calls too.
This game was there to be won. They actually had to work at it to give this one away.
First Rangers related post from BaadBill i'm on board with
lol
league is fixed
Offense plays well, D begin to crack
Offense and D play well, ST fucks up royally. It is ongoing throughout the years.
Eli threw well today, this was a team effort in inconsistency...PERIOD...FULL STOP!
Was he available today ! WTF why not...
Because he's a rookie
Probably worst news! McClain nor Herzlich can play LB!!!!!!!
They're not capable of not fumbling?
JPP had 1.5 sacks and 2 tackles, not the problem.
Good thing Gilbride retired, he was really holding the team back, haha
Bad teams have a tendency to do that.
Coughlin: "The longer the yardage is on third down the easier it is for the opponent to make it." About his defense.
Bullshit. Why is Demps allowed to run every return out of the endzone whether he is short of the 20 yard line or not. That's his call. DRC and Prince are making the call to play off the line of scrimmage. LBers are making the call to cover Larry out there?
Yes they are.... that's BS. They dropped way too many passes today, had too many penalties at critical times and turned the bal l over at inopportune moments. They could have probably tied the game up on the drive where Jennings fumbled, even with all the other BS that happened.
Good thing Gilbride retired, he was really holding the team back, haha
Dont Winston. Want OL. I would draft skill guys, but we are striking out left and right with some of these WRS (PLEASE COME BACK odb.)
Beason in a walking boot...Hurt same toe.
Good thing Gilbride retired, he was really holding the team back, haha
yes, must have been Eli's fault that Cruz forgot how to catch. There was one bad pass by Eli all day, it was deflected off a lineman and picked.
All these negatives I am getting from everyone. Seems like it was a pretty crappy game and effort by some, and especially with our favorite coach, the great and wonderful Tom "I get a pass because?" Quinn.
How many years of being horrific on Special Teams? 4, 5, more?
If we end up 4-12 this year (which I hope we do not of course) will there be wholesale changes on this supposed re-building team?
Sure would like to hear some truly positives coming from folks here.
Coughlin: "The longer the yardage is on third down the easier it is for the opponent to make it." About his defense.
I said that today. It's very fucking true. Draw play on 3rd and 14 and it works?!!!!????!!!!!!????!? That's the mark of a very bad team, very bad.
I fear we've dug ourselves a hole that we may not be able to get out of for years and years.
I'm starting to think that the team tuned TC and co. out a couple of years ago and just haven't listened to him since.
I agree. This team does not play like a well coached team.
All coaches have a sell-by date.
Sure would like to hear some truly positives coming from folks here.
Larry Donnell. That's it.
But in that it is a team that gets blown out all too frequently, and manages to make just enough mistakes to lose the close games, it is very similar.
Perhaps some of the younger fans on this site now understand why guys that were fans during the earlier eras, were not as impatient as you during the 10-6 9-7 8-8 no play off years.
At least the team was competitive and gave you games into December to get involved in.
It is much preferable to being out of serious contention by the end of Oct, where last year's team found themselves, and where this team seems content on getting to.
Offense was by far the strongest unit today.
I think Giants win next week.
Perry Fewell needs to be fired. They were saved by a penalty at the end of the first half or else the Cardinals would have driven from their own 10 to about the Giants 20 in less than 30 seconds. That's not on the players. That's the scheme.
How can they let up the first down to the TE late in the game. The team plays well on first and second down, but breaks down on third. That's the scheme.
I know the defense didn't give up many points, but they let the Cardinals offense win the field position. AND, wasn't Fewell hired because his Buffalo teams got a lot of turnovers? When will this team get one?
Fire his ass now.
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Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz 8m
Coughlin: "The longer the yardage is on third down the easier it is for the opponent to make it." About his defense.
I said that today. It's very fucking true. Draw play on 3rd and 14 and it works?!!!!????!!!!!!????!? That's the mark of a very bad team, very bad.
I fear we've dug ourselves a hole that we may not be able to get out of for years and years.
Jints I hate Fewells defense, and we have given up 3rd and Plus 10's for years under him, and guess what? if TC retires, he'll be the next head coach under Reese and Co
He had 1 sacks, 2 tackles for loss, 2 passed defensed and 2 more QB hits.
Not sure what else you want from him.
Housecleaning incoming in January.
Offense was by far the strongest unit today.
I think Giants win next week.
They have to. It's become essentially a must win. If we go 0-3, we'll probably never recover and Houston won't be an easy out either.
and no team that has started 0-4 has ever made the playoffs
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sees the game as a positive. Eli got some protection and threw the ball well. Most important: Eli is not "done."
Also, this big tight end might be the next Boss, Jake. The defensive line generated pressure and had sacks. The defensive backfield played almost as good as we had hoped subject to crazed, cocaine-snorting officials.
Turnovers can't be helped. Players who can't secure the ball will not play. Running game poor and completely lacking in explosiveness, but a lot of us already expected that from the two slow, north-south runners. I would rather have Bradshaw back with two crippled feet.
To sum, we look like we aren't going to be a humiliated, bottom feeding team. Many holes, but there is still a core.
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The players don't have the talent....the players are not capable enough to win....they just aren't. They CANT do it because they're not capable of doing it......
Yes they are.... that's BS. They dropped way too many passes today, had too many penalties at critical times and turned the bal l over at inopportune moments. They could have probably tied the game up on the drive where Jennings fumbled, even with all the other BS that happened.
A dropped pass means he doesn't have the talent to catch the ball in that situation.. Does Larry Fitzgerald drop passes like that? No....why not? Because he's more fucking talented....get it? Our WRs don't have the talent/ capability of making that play....otherwise you seem to suggest that he dropped it on purpose?