The giants are a mentally weak football team.

they are on mental overload which can lead to paralysis by analysis.

I am totally convinced that Perry Fewell will never have a good defense with the Giants.

You want to state he won a Super Bowl...... I remember a must win in Dallas, after a great comeback by Eli, needing a stop, on 3rd down the stop was because Romo over threw a wide open receiver.

I remember the Super Bowl, late in the game, Brady and Welker being unable to hook up on a game clinching, wide open play.

I also remember given all those breaks, an 4th and 18 play that kept the Patriots alive giving them a chance for a hail mary that came too close to being completed.

so, with that in mind, a team a lot of people talked up and possibly going to the Super Bowl because of all world quarterback Drew Brees and all world tightend Jimmy Graham, and the addition of Rob Ryan to run the defense, hey hey oh when the Siants go marching in... They or zero for the the start of the season too.

It just goes to show you there are no certainties in the NFL. And how about the Bills. So much was written about the infighting there between the head coach and the front office. They had as bad a preseason you could have. E.J. Manual looked terrible to boot. Everyone saying what a mess they were. They win their first two. Go figure.

lacking top line talent and depth

The Lions game was unwatchable.

what happened to the Lions against a good team....

that's bullshit.

They are less talented sans JPP Rolle, DRC, Pugh and Eli.

Dropped passes is mentally weak? fumbles are mentally weak? missed tackles are mentally weak?

NOOOOO

That's called "less talented"

And I don't want to hear "Coaching".....Players play, coaches coach. Coaches don't intentionally put their players in a position to lose, not at this level.

sadly yesterday Donnell seemed like the only playmaker on the field yesterday.

Also what I found troubling was the comment about how the D continues to say that there are communication issues theybstruggle with.

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that's bullshit. They are less talented sans JPP Rolle, DRC, Pugh and Eli. Dropped passes is mentally weak? fumbles are mentally weak? missed tackles are mentally weak? NOOOOO That's called "less talented" And I don't want to hear "Coaching".....Players play, coaches coach. Coaches don't intentionally put their players in a position to lose, not at this level. Have to agree with scott on this one...dropped passes and fumbles without being touched are mental lapses IMO. The team is not talented and I think the coaches are growing stale. Doesn't look like a third superbowl is coming from this group.

Imagine being a SB contender and losing to the flucking Bears at home? The 0-2 Saints are also quite weak. Can't close the deal. And the SB champs? 1-1..

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In comment 11863420 I Love Clams Casino said: Quote: that's bullshit. They are less talented sans JPP Rolle, DRC, Pugh and Eli. Dropped passes is mentally weak? fumbles are mentally weak? missed tackles are mentally weak? NOOOOO That's called "less talented" And I don't want to hear "Coaching".....Players play, coaches coach. Coaches don't intentionally put their players in a position to lose, not at this level. Have to agree with scott on this one...dropped passes and fumbles without being touched are mental lapses IMO. The team is not talented and I think the coaches are growing stale. Doesn't look like a third superbowl is coming from this group.

Really? So you're suggesting that the players are having mental lapses?

What kind of mental lapse do you refer to? You think Jennings was thinking about.....what? His taxes when he fumbled? You think Victor Cruz was running his route and said "ooooh look a butterfly!" and then dropped the pass. I am so freakin tired of these shit excuses. The only reason that you think they are NOT less talented is because they are NY Giants, but I'm telling you....they are less talented....this mental lapse thing is B.S.....total B.S.

They were out playing the cardinals. Complete meltdown in the 4th quarter. It was self destruction.

They are not a very talented team. But you have to admit the concentration certainly isn't there either.

Playing w paaion or toughness...
tc has them hymatized with all
this pride bull crap..its like
they are overkill on evefything...

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was a mental error. He choked. Had nothing to do with talent. Jennings fumble same thing. Players on defense forgetting their responsibilities is mental not a talent issue. There are many more examples.

that "mentally weak" was a funny term. I mean, there's a word for that already-- it's "stupid." But in sports commentary where everything is reduced to machismo, "stupid" just doesn't carry the same force as calling somebody "weak."

The Giants had some fuckups yesterday. Fumbles, drops, and penalties made them lose a game that they were in a good position to win. Could that be a sign that there is some collective "mental strength" attributed that the team is lacking? I guess it's possible. But, more likely, any collective description of the mental state of 53 dudes is going to be wrong as much as it is right.

They played dumb football.

falling and the bounce gods continuing to hate him.

It was the right read, so I'm not sure where you'd get "choke" or mental error from it.

I really am curious...

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of 80,000 people in person and millions more on TV mentally weak. Low football IQ, bad execution, poor performance are better terms.

He threw the ball to the DT. Eli saw the blitz coming and he panicked. He choked.

But, that first INT is 100% on him. I don't think it was panic, especially the way he looked the entire rest of the game. I think it was just a terrible throw. Yes, there was a little pressure, which may have sped his getting rid of the ball. But, the only reason the ball was picked is that he threw it into the shoulder of a DL. That is just inexcusable, in my opinion. The DL didn't jump or do anything to put his shoulder in the line of the throw. and whether or not Cruz stumbled is really irrelevant.

Most of the time hopefully not for INTs, but still.

He intended to go where the play dictated he should; between the off throw itself, Cruz not getting where he needed to be,, and having the worst tip/bounce luck ever, it unfortunately got picked -- not a thing to do with mental weakness or weirdly selectively choking on some random early game drive, however.

how you get to "mentally weak". Not that good? Yeah I buy that.

The outcome of a sporting event is not a character assessment, as much as the talking heads seems to want to make it. You can have the mentally strongest people in the world on the team, but they won't win if their talent and coaching isn't as good as their opponents.

called undisciplined for penalties by the DB's where they essentially do nothing wrong.

I know everyone questions the talent level, and that might be an issue too, but the team rarely ever seems to be on the same page. There's always someone forgetting an assignment, someone missing a tackle, someone blowing a coverage, someone running the wrong route.

All a function of talent? It's possible, but even a less than talented receiver can run the right routes (and maybe just not get separation or drop the ball when it gets there). Plus, some of these guys came from teams where they played better than here, and the dropoff makes you wonder if their last spot just made them look better than they were, or if they're just not as well prepared or utilized this time around.

Which isn't to suggest it's all the coaches' fault, but rather that it's hard to separate where the blame lies because poor preparation would make good talent look like shit.

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