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Thurmond out for season - torn pec

ryanmkeane : 9/15/2014 11:58 am
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Giants CB Walter Thurmond has torn pec, per league source. Surgery this week. Done for year.
Wow.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/15/2014 11:59 am : link
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Ugh...  
Vinny from Danbury : 9/15/2014 11:59 am : link
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fuck  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/15/2014 11:59 am : link
pretty damn big loss.
That sucks  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2014 11:59 am : link
but that why the Giants signed so many corners so they have depth...

Time for Mcbride and Bowman to step up...
Suddenly him taking a 1 year deal instead of a three year deal  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2014 11:59 am : link
looms.

Also, this sucks big time.
That sucks.  
Britt in VA : 9/15/2014 12:00 pm : link
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Well, at least we got 2 games out of him!  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/15/2014 12:00 pm : link
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81_Great_Dane : 9/15/2014 12:00 pm : link
"No problem, I got this!" -- Jayron Hosley
Just more time for him to shine on the red carpet!  
FranknWeezer : 9/15/2014 12:01 pm : link
The key is Beason  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2014 12:01 pm : link
have a feeling he is going to need surgery again on that foot and if thats the case i hope Kennard can be healthy for this week because Mclain Kennard and Williams is a lot better than having Herzlich in there...
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Danny Kanell : 9/15/2014 12:02 pm : link
Well I guess the 2nd deal with him was worth it.  
BlueHurricane : 9/15/2014 12:03 pm : link
We do have two Lombardi's to show for it. Hopefully we only sacrificed a few seasons and not the next 100 years LOL

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arcarsenal : 9/15/2014 12:03 pm : link
Brutal.

At least it's in one of the only places we actually have depth on this team.
huge loss..we don't have depth  
area junc : 9/15/2014 12:05 pm : link
in the slot

prince, DRC + bowman are boundary CBs only and mcbride is much better outside despite his height. hosley just plain sucks

the shattering sound u hear is rolle's heart breaking as he realizes he'll have to go back to nickel. every year
WTF!!!  
sshin05 : 9/15/2014 12:06 pm : link
come on!!
Of Course  
ZogZerg : 9/15/2014 12:07 pm : link
One down.
When do we find out about Beason?
RE: huge loss..we don't have depth  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2014 12:07 pm : link
In comment 11863951 area junc said:
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in the slot

prince, DRC + bowman are boundary CBs only and mcbride is much better outside despite his height. hosley just plain sucks

the shattering sound u hear is rolle's heart breaking as he realizes he'll have to go back to nickel. every year


Rolle will not be going back to Nickel...Giants will use Mcbride in the slot most likely or Bowman...they have depth at corner no reason for Rolle to play the nickel..
Hosely needs to step up  
micky : 9/15/2014 12:08 pm : link
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Beason out and Kinnard with the hammy  
Canton : 9/15/2014 12:09 pm : link
Linebacker is going to be a whole lot of suck again. Not that it wasn't the last two weeks anyway..
Uughh  
Mason : 9/15/2014 12:09 pm : link
Rolle: At the end of the day...shit
RE: Of Course  
Canton : 9/15/2014 12:09 pm : link
In comment 11863958 ZogZerg said:
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One down.
When do we find out about Beason?


MRI today.
smoke another blunt  
andrew_nyg : 9/15/2014 12:09 pm : link
- Will Hill
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arcarsenal : 9/15/2014 12:09 pm : link
They're not putting Rolle back at CB.

Like 16 said, Bowman or McBride will slide into the slot. Most likely Bowman.
Re-sign Terrell Thomas!  
mac attack : 9/15/2014 12:10 pm : link
He's still out there and can tackle!
Legion of God Damn It  
GMAN4LIFE : 9/15/2014 12:11 pm : link
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Can Charles James get a hall pass from wherever he is now??  
FranknWeezer : 9/15/2014 12:17 pm : link
Thurmond  
stretch234 : 9/15/2014 12:19 pm : link
I would put Bowman, James and even Holsey before I put Rolle there

Better than losing the outside guys
Sucks  
AcidTest : 9/15/2014 12:22 pm : link
but next man up. Maybe we'll be able to resign him more cheaply at the end of the year. Wonder if James gets a call. I don't think anybody picked him up. Or maybe they promote Jackson from the PS. Hosley is terrible. You only turn to him if there is another injury at that position.
Oh man  
jeff57 : 9/15/2014 12:23 pm : link
SMH
I  
AcidTest : 9/15/2014 12:23 pm : link
bet we lose Beason as well.
Why..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/15/2014 12:25 pm : link
the fuck does Reese keep signing injured players!!!
RE: Why..  
mrvax : 9/15/2014 12:33 pm : link
In comment 11864017 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the fuck does Reese keep signing injured players!!!


and drafting them too!
That sucks  
Matt in SGS : 9/15/2014 12:36 pm : link
Hosley get a final shot now once he comes off his suspension?
RE: Why..  
ImaGiant86 : 9/15/2014 12:37 pm : link
In comment 11864017 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the fuck does Reese keep signing injured players!!!


You can't sign injured players, wouldn't get passed the physical.
I'm sure Reese..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/15/2014 12:38 pm : link
is so incompetent, he says "Fuck the physical! That's my guy!"
call Bennet Jackson up  
Mr. Nickels : 9/15/2014 12:40 pm : link
kid can play
I feel badly for him  
santacruzom : 9/15/2014 12:41 pm : link
but I don't think it's that huge of a loss. What, do we fall from 5-11 to 4-12 now?
Connor's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2014 12:41 pm : link
story on this...
Walter Thurmond III Likely Done for Year with Torn Pectoral - ( New Window )
RE: Why..  
phillygiant : 9/15/2014 12:43 pm : link
In comment 11864017 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the fuck does Reese keep signing injured players!!!


WTF are you talking about?

Thurmond was not injured before he came here

It's football...Injuries to happen
RE: RE: Why..  
BlueHurricane : 9/15/2014 12:45 pm : link
In comment 11864079 phillygiant said:
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In comment 11864017 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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the fuck does Reese keep signing injured players!!!



WTF are you talking about?

Thurmond was not injured before he came here

It's football...Injuries to happen



phillygiant pictured here

RE: RE: Why..  
micky : 9/15/2014 12:45 pm : link
In comment 11864079 phillygiant said:
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In comment 11864017 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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the fuck does Reese keep signing injured players!!!



WTF are you talking about?

Thurmond was not injured before he came here

It's football...Injuries to happen



missing the sarcasm..
I love me some Jayron Hosley.  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 9/15/2014 12:59 pm : link
Signed,
No one.
Lane attempt to alibi  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/15/2014 1:01 pm : link
For Teflon Jerry who redid the contract for the oft injured Baas twice. Gave Beason a new deal despite a recent history of injuries. Gave Breatty a big long term deal well Into to his 30s w history of back issues. Redid Snee after he was breaking down.

Yeah so I guess he does sign guys w injury issues. Walter wasn't one and Reese still sucks as a GM as this isn't the only thjng he does shitty. Draft being the worst.
I'm pretty sure..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/15/2014 1:03 pm : link
if reese let Beason walk, we'd have the usual shitheads talking about how he serially ignores the LB's. Now he gets signed and it is a shitty thing.

You cant win in a room full of morons.
And the hits just keep coming ....  
Beer Man : 9/15/2014 1:07 pm : link
New Year, same old s#!+
In the words  
old man : 9/15/2014 1:12 pm : link
of the late Casey Kasem:
AND THE HITS JUST KEEP ON COMIN'!
Terrell Thomas round 3?  
Mondo : 9/15/2014 1:18 pm : link
?
BlueHurricane:  
That Said : 9/15/2014 1:20 pm : link
I do not disagree with your Shake Hands with the Devil pic. Not too far out of the realm of possibility to my 17th century way of thinking.
Hopefully he'll NOW be amenable to  
Big Blue '56 : 9/15/2014 1:23 pm : link
signing a 3-4 year extension moving forward. This injury should not affect him in the least as it regards his future
RE: I'm pretty sure..  
AcidTest : 9/15/2014 1:27 pm : link
In comment 11864155 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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if reese let Beason walk, we'd have the usual shitheads talking about how he serially ignores the LB's. Now he gets signed and it is a shitty thing.

You cant win in a room full of morons.


Agree. And I was (incorrectly) against trading a seventh for Beason. He was well worth the pick. His current injury is also unrelated to the injuries he had at Carolina. But even if he doesn't play again this year, he can come back next season. It's a violent game. Many teams have already suffered a lot worse than the Giants. Look at KC. I fault Reese for a lot of things, but who can control injuries? No one.

It will be interesting to see what the Giants do once Thurmond goes on IR. I think they've soured on James, and will therefore bring up Jackson. In a few weeks, we will also have to make decisions about Hosley and Herman. Absent more injuries, I think Hosley gets cut. Not sure about Herman.
FOL  
Anakim : 9/15/2014 1:28 pm : link
Fuck our lives
And the beat goes on....  
The_Taxman : 9/15/2014 1:39 pm : link
I'd like to see the Giants call up Jackson from the PS. The kid is a good special teams player which we sorely need.
when  
blue42 : 9/15/2014 1:49 pm : link
will Devon Kennard see the field?
I didnt think Terrell Thomas played that bad last year.  
eclipz928 : 9/15/2014 1:57 pm : link
And getting cut from Seattle's defense isn't exactly something to be too embarrassed about. Would like the Giants to at least check him out. I'm just glad the Giants had the forsight to go heavy on the free agent signings in the secondary this offseason to brace for these sort of injuries (and suspensions).
by the end of the year  
djm : 9/15/2014 1:57 pm : link
people will be saying the secondary was the biggest weakness on this team and the biggest area of concern heading into 2015. Because that's how things work in the NYG universe.



This is a big blow losing Thurmond for the year  
SGMen : 9/15/2014 2:03 pm : link
No doubt about it, just stinks but at least we have McBride and he isn't all that bad really.
no need to wait until the end of the year  
fame56 : 9/15/2014 2:05 pm : link
linebacker and offensive line will still be the weakest links on the team, as they are now, and have been for 3 seasons now
LT says torn pec aint nothing  
BlueHurricane : 9/15/2014 2:07 pm : link
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Taylor, who was suffering with a torn pectoral muscle in his shoulder, should have joined them on the sidelines. Wearing a harness to keep his shoulder in place, he managed to record an incredible seven tackles, three sacks, and two forced fumbles. The Giants won a squeaker 13-12. "I thought that was his most spectacular game," declared Parcells. "I thought it was his finest hour from a courage standpoint."
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arcarsenal : 9/15/2014 2:08 pm : link
T2 looked very slow towards the end of last year and apparently wasn't good enough to warrant a spot on any NFL teams roster despite CB being a premium position. I think there's a good chance he's just finished.
Bowman is a swiss army knife  
JonC : 9/15/2014 2:19 pm : link
hopefully he's up for this, McBride and Hosley are going to get cracks too.
The good news is, Hosley was drafted to play that position.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/15/2014 2:35 pm : link
The bad news is, he has been so terrible that the Giants paid millions for a one-year fix.
I think T2's physically done  
JonC : 9/15/2014 2:39 pm : link
He struggled significantly last year.

The question of next man up in the slot is interesting, especially given Hosley's struggles, and the other veterans are better suited to playing outside.
RE: when  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2014 2:40 pm : link
In comment 11864280 blue42 said:
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will Devon Kennard see the field?


When he's no longer injured.
As it's own thread..  
Connor_Hughes : 9/15/2014 2:58 pm : link
This is posted as it's own thread, but incase people in here want to read it, too.

Here's a look at where the Giants can go at the nickel CB position. Teaser, very little depth.

http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/2014/09/15/walter-thurmond-giants-go-nickel-corner/
Injuries are a cancer  
Jupiter : 9/15/2014 4:00 pm : link
I heard.
Still nothing on Beason  
Big Blue '56 : 9/15/2014 6:43 pm : link
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For those who think they'd never put Rolle back in the slot.  
Canton : 9/15/2014 6:44 pm : link
@TomRock_Newsday: TC said Giants would consider moving Antrel Rolle to slot with injury to Thurmond. "He's always ready to do that."
Rolle finally gets to play safety full-time again  
Model4001 : 9/15/2014 6:59 pm : link
...for two fucking games. Jesus...
Putting Rolle in at nickel CB makes no sense.  
arcarsenal : 9/15/2014 7:24 pm : link
It forces you to play Quintin Demps on every down which would be a HUGE issue. And Rolle is significantly better at safety than CB. They have to figure out who between Bowman, McBride, Hosley, etc can swing it. My money is on Bowman. That guy can play and is very underrated.
*every down outside of our base  
arcarsenal : 9/15/2014 7:24 pm : link
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RE: Lane attempt to alibi  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/15/2014 11:07 pm : link
In comment 11864153 LauderdaleMatty said:
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For Teflon Jerry who redid the contract for the oft injured Baas twice. Gave Beason a new deal despite a recent history of injuries. Gave Breatty a big long term deal well Into to his 30s w history of back issues. Redid Snee after he was breaking down.

Yeah so I guess he does sign guys w injury issues. Walter wasn't one and Reese still sucks as a GM as this isn't the only thjng he does shitty. Draft being the worst.

Isn't Beatty 29?
Nice off season for Reese  
deadkurtrulz : 9/15/2014 11:46 pm : link
Number 12 pick in draft ?
Has not played or practiced since he signed his rookie contract.

Signed starting guard for 4M per?
Hurt his widdle toe and has not played a game.

Signed a DB to start and play nickle?
Almost made it thru two losses before going down for the season.

Extended starting MLB?
Who knows if he will return but it does not look good.

The Giants injury situation is again almost cosmically bad .
Instant karma's gonna get you - gonna knock you right in the head.
RE: I think T2's physically done  
giantgiantfan : 9/16/2014 2:06 am : link
In comment 11864390 JonC said:
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He struggled significantly last year.

The question of next man up in the slot is interesting, especially given Hosley's struggles, and the other veterans are better suited to playing outside.


He did earn defensive player of the week though, so there was something left there.
so....  
fkap : 9/16/2014 9:06 am : link
let's create lots of depth at corner, except for slot, so when the number one slot corner goes down, let's take the best safety to play slot? that's the depth chart? yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Mcbride should be the man  
Tuckrule : 9/16/2014 10:13 am : link
Played great last year and seems capable. Bowman to me seems more suited on the outisde. Well wait and see.
No  
AcidTest : 9/16/2014 10:27 am : link
to Rolle playing safety. Just promote Jackson.
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