So here we are again - incredibly in year #8 of the great Tom Quinn regime as Giants' Special Teams coach.
8 fucking years...of under-performing and out-right losing games for the franchise. This guy has the survival skill of a cockroach. How in the world is he still around? How did he survive the coaching purge last season? When they evaluated last year's shit show of a season, did they actually get to Quinn and say: "Yeah, this guy was good, let's keep him."?
That's 4 TD punt returns against the Giants in the last 17 games. The Seahawks' gave up something like 15 punt return yards all season last year, in two games the Giants already are at like 150 or something.
I don't want to hear that he didn't miss the Ginn tackle yesterday - the 10 other guys didn't even lay a hand on him. The very next play, his guy takes it out of the endzone and starts whirling around with the ball? That shit is allowed to happen without any repercussions?
With a new offensive coordinator and all the new faces on "D", the last thing this team needed was for special teams to blow games but they fucked us again...
For 8 years this unit has been a liability and we never see a change. I remember during the Parcells days when special teams used to win games for us...
Why Coach Coughlin? How you can you let this continue? A tortured fan base turns its lonely eyes to you....
Weatherford shouldn't even be in the conversation.
The usually reliable deossie took a terrible angle
The usually reliable deossie took a terrible angle
It wasn't THAT much of a line drive considering that Bowman was RIGHT on top of him the moment he caught the ball.
He missed the tackle and ran through a house-sized gap in the coverage.
Have to agree.
Tom Quinn has been ALMOST fired roughly 75 times over the past 8 years. But at the exact moment of BLAMMO!, Coughlin and Jerry look at the mesmerizing hair, and are completely subdued by it's wonderfulness, and completely forget that they were about to bring down the hammer.
Simple.
That's purely coaching. While I blame Quinn for the fourth-quarter disasters too, it's hard to say where his responsibility for those ends and Bowman's or Demps's or DeOssie's or McClain's or McBride's begins. When players don't know the rules that can easily cost you a game, there isn't much room for debate.
If Bowman had completely whiffed on Ginn instead of getting a piece of him, I doubt very much it goes for a TD.
The middle was covered, they player didn't make a play
My thoughts exactly.
Get ready for a shitty ride. We are paying for 07-11.
What's worse is Coughlin turning a blind eye and keeping this clown around.
Yes because 100% healthy Weatherford is a tackling machine and it's the plan of all good special teams coaches to want your punter to tackle the return man after the 10 other guys miss
Why do you think Seattle was so good on specials last season?
When you have slow players on specials, kicking to the sidelines becomes very important so have the sideline as a 12th man. That's why it was a bad kick. It's too risky to kick it down the middle with what we have covering kicks.
There is no magic coaching that is going to fix this. You need to find faster and better players at the bottom of the roster.
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to play weatherford as opposed to signing a replacement
Yes because 100% healthy Weatherford is a tackling machine and it's the plan of all good special teams coaches to want your punter to tackle the return man after the 10 other guys miss
Its pretty clear I was talking about the shitty punt and not the missed tackle.
Listen I don't know if he is a good or bad ST coach. I don't see practices and not in on meetings. I don't know how well he prepares his guys. But I don't see how you can blame him for a line drive punt and two missed tackles.
How he survived 2010 is still a mystery.
Tom Quinn has been ALMOST fired roughly 75 times over the past 8 years. But at the exact moment of BLAMMO!, Coughlin and Jerry look at the mesmerizing hair, and are completely subdued by it's wonderfulness, and completely forget that they were about to bring down the hammer.
Simple.
This is the reason right here. There is no other plausible explanation
I do expect that when Quinn leaves, he will post on the Internet the porno movie he has that stars Coughlin.
Can't it be both? Can't it be a disastrous confluence of bad coaching AND mediocre talent and depth?
I mean, certainly a large number of people have jobs they're not qualified for. Can't Quinn be among them?
Quinn explaining the benefits of a Boar's hair brush vs. plastic bristles.
Too much Clorox out there folks. Too many slow white guys, to be frank. Does Quinn get credit for the partially blocked punt or nailing Ginn at the -8 on a KOR? Of course not. When he had Devin Thomas they beat the 49ers in the NFC Championship game with 2 recovered punt return fumbles by Williams but of course none of that counts.
But the whole post was ruined with racial overtones anyway, so...
Why don't the Giants just hire the Rutgers special team coordinator. He must know something. :)
Too much Clorox out there folks. Too many slow white guys, to be frank. Does Quinn get credit for the partially blocked punt or nailing Ginn at the -8 on a KOR? Of course not. When he had Devin Thomas they beat the 49ers in the NFC Championship game with 2 recovered punt return fumbles by Williams but of course none of that counts.
Great - another Quinn apologist (and I'll refrain from commenting on the racial shit in honor of Steve Tasker). I guess any Quinn credit on Jennings' block get countered by the block of Weatherford's kick last week. Besides the "great" work he did with Matt Dodge as a punter, don't think I forgot his brilliant decision to turn Matt Dodge into maybe the worst holder (Matt Allen notwithstanding) in franchise history.
Eight years of coaching work and you cite three special teams plays. Yeah - keep telling Demps to bring the ball out of the endzone... By the way, DeOssie made one of the most under-rated special team tackles in franchise history after Buress' catch in the 2008 Super Bowl on the ensuing kickoff. I guess I should give Coach Quinn credit on that one too... I'm sure over 8 years we can cherry pick 5 or 6 good special teams play (what a great coaching job he did on Tynes OT kick in Green Bay for example - that's sarcastic by the way) but most of us are detecting an ongoing bad pattern of special team play over the past (gulp) 8 years, don't you think?
I feel that Coughlin gives special teams just as much attention as the other sides of the ball. They invested heavily in special teams players in the offseason. That being said, there is a sloppy cancer throughout this team; whether it's the lack of discipline on the punt return coverage, the communication breakdowns in the secondary leading to gift touchdowns or the QB and receiver not being on the same page. They are way too easy breasy loosey goosey. Time to tighten some leashes.
He should have been gone eons ago.
Son of a....