a not unreasonable sum to the Vikings. Anyway for me the game was summarized by this play: 3rd and goal, and the Cards run a run-of-the-mill RB, Jonathan Dwyer, right behind a middling run-of-the-mill journeyman OG, Paul Fainika, who absolutely owns our ultra-pedestrian over the hill, small but slow, starting goal line D DT Mike Patterson.
I mean, getting owned one on one by an OL doesn't get much worse than this. Somehow I think Joseph, who was a crucial player in numerous goal line stand successes for the Giants the past few years, doesn't get driven 3-4 yards off the LOS at the goal line like Patterson was.
If there was no salary cap, or at least some adjustment to it by which a team could reasonably keep their own drafted and home grown talent, I think Joseph would still be a Giant and I wouldn't have had to watch Patterson being driven off the ball like a high school blocking sled.
Dwyer one yard TD run on 3rd down.... - (
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I would've kept LJ instead of signing DRC, for the record.
With Kuhn out we're pretty undersized at DT. All the BS about getting "bigger and more physical" from the FO was just that that: BS. Not with Jenkins and Patterson as DTs...
There's no law against having 2 big stud DTs, is there?
That would have been like 11th on my list of 10. It was in the first quarter and was hardly a big deal. It was a run of the mill goal line TD.
That's not solvable without a personnel change. We'll be living with that shit all year.
And it was oh so avoidable if we could have kept LJ.
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The LB's are a much larger one if Beason isn't going to be able to stay on the field this year. Ditto that especially if Kennard's hammy is going to nag him for a while.
Did you miss yesterday's game? We got lit up on the ground.
I do think the cap should be tweaked to give teams an advantage in signing their own drafted players.
And that's one less draft choice that they have available to spend on rebuilding the OL, or finding a TE that can actually play, or taking a CB instead of spending the big bucks for one who has played his way through three other NFL teams already.
And sooner or later you totally whiff on a replacement, like they did with Austin, so that just puts you further in the hole.
You wonder why the talent on this team sucks, you have just seen one of the many reasons why. You can't BUILD a team if you constantly let productive young players walk while handing on to draft flops for multiple years hoping against hope that they might actually develop into real football players.
This front office is a bad joke, and the joke is on the fans who buy the tickets and otherwise support the team.
Kind of strange timing to be longing for such production
And that's one less draft choice that they have available to spend on rebuilding the OL, or finding a TE that can actually play, or taking a CB instead of spending the big bucks for one who has played his way through three other NFL teams already.
And sooner or later you totally whiff on a replacement, like they did with Austin, so that just puts you further in the hole.
You wonder why the talent on this team sucks, you have just seen one of the many reasons why. You can't BUILD a team if you constantly let productive young players walk while handing on to draft flops for multiple years hoping against hope that they might actually develop into real football players.
This front office is a bad joke, and the joke is on the fans who buy the tickets and otherwise support the team.
Austin wasn't Joseph's replacement. Hankins is and that's why they drafted him last year. They anticipated that they were going to lose him. The same way they drafted Joseph because they anticipated they would lose Canty. You can't keep all of your players. It's just not possible. Especially when you have to pay your QB so much. And it's not like we had a choice there.
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they had 3 runs that went for 59 yards out of their 1st 5 running plays of the game.
The other 23 runs not including the kneel down gained 65 yards - 2.83 ypg
and secondly the ONE thing the Giants HAVE done well is replace DT's about to cash in the FA with younger cheaper quality DE's..
I mean come on wake up..
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah we are losing Cornelius Griffin.... but we drafted Barry Cofield... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah we are losing Barry Cofield.... but we drafted Linval Joseph... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah we are losing Linval Joseph....but we drafted Hankins...
save the crying until we lose Hankins..
seriously... get over it already..
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Joe Jurevicius, Brad Maynard, Visanthe Shiancoe, Tyrone Wheatley, Scott Gragg?
That's my point - very rarely do we see ex-giants making an impact elsewhere, and if they do, it is usually marginally better than they did here. Case in point - Scott Gragg.
I think the FO has done a good job there with replenishing and definitely had a plan at that position. You can't pay everyone and we've replaced those losses with good players.
The player I would have loved to have stayed(as his career panned out, that is), was Ryan Clark..He really turned out to be rather solid..Otherwise, meh
I don't know about that. You'd then have Dallas signing guys like Rogers or Watt to $150 million contracts.
That's my point - very rarely do we see ex-giants making an impact elsewhere, and if they do, it is usually marginally better than they did here. Case in point - Scott Gragg.
Come on Fatman, that's a list of first ballot HOFers right there!