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Coughlin's message to fans

Big Blue '56 : 9/15/2014 5:35 pm
Per Giants 101

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"In an ideal world, they would stay and remain as positive and upbeat as they possibly can because of the way they effect the young men that are on the field," Coughlin said via NJ.com. "They are fans, they bleed, they live and die. The circumstances, it wasn't good yesterday. It was better, but it wasn't the end result everyone was looking for. But I would say we need them. We need them to be upbeat. I thought they were great yesterday, I thought they were into it. The noise was great, the patriotism was super. The response to the Giants players that returned from the past seemed to be outstanding. Everything looked – and it was a magnificent day for football – except we didn't put the necessary points on the board to win the game.

"I hope they realize that it was a competitive game until deep in the fourth quarter. The opportunity and the chance were there for us. We didn't get it done. Well, perhaps we can learn something from that. We'll go on and fight and continue to accept the next challenge and be even more hardened as to what needs to be done. To be even closer and bound together as a team and maybe if we come out and play like a team like that, maybe the fans will continue to grow and respond and be energetic about what we're trying to accomplish on the field.

"I don't see this as being a reason for them not to be [hopeful]. Our task and our goal is to toughen up. Let's go. Come on. Stop beating ourselves. This is professional football. Make the plays necessary to win and do it on a consistent basis. Eliminate these bizarre events which take the heart right out of you. I hope they'll respond to the fact that I'm counting on them to accept the challenge, to not feel sorry for ourselves and to realize the work that has to be done for us to win. I hope the fans will join in in that exact feeling."

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Big Blue '56 : 9/15/2014 5:35 pm : link
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I think they have until Halloween  
Reb8thVA : 9/15/2014 5:39 pm : link
to keep fan interest or lose it altogether. By that time Thanksgiving and the Christmas holidays are on the radar and people's time becomes more precious.
I approve  
ttb from Roanoke, VA : 9/15/2014 5:42 pm : link
this message. Go Giants!!!!
I hope all the local papers give those quotes a full page  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/15/2014 5:43 pm : link
They won't of course, but some of the so called "fans" need a wake up call.

We did a lot of things right yesterday. There is PLENTY of reason for hope. There wasn't after week 1. There certainly is now.

I am not a blind optimist. I see it as an uphill battle, but one that is certainly winnable.
Hated how they trotted that scumbag LT  
Default : 9/15/2014 5:45 pm : link
out there yesterday.
Meaningless.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/15/2014 5:46 pm : link
Doesn't matter how the fans react. We don't have a microphone in our faces and we're not out on the field.

Beat Drew Stanton at home and there's no questions being asked about the fans mindset, or whatever the question was about.
Once again, this front office makes Coughlin stand alone  
NYGmen58 : 9/15/2014 6:02 pm : link
to address the fans about the teams woes while the owners/gm run for cover.

I am not saying Coughlin doesn't deserve any criticism but I don't need to hear it from him anymore. What does Mara and Reese have to say for themselves and this team?

Coughlin has enough on his plate trying to motivate and correct the play of these basket-case players.

The man deserves so much better.
RE: Once again, this front office makes Coughlin stand alone  
Big Blue '56 : 9/15/2014 6:04 pm : link
In comment 11864870 NYGmen58 said:
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to address the fans about the teams woes while the owners/gm run for cover.

I am not saying Coughlin doesn't deserve any criticism but I don't need to hear it from him anymore. What does Mara and Reese have to say for themselves and this team?

Coughlin has enough on his plate trying to motivate and correct the play of these basket-case players.

The man deserves so much better.


Agreed. Btw, how nice would an Eagles loss to the Colts tonight be?
"Eliminate these bizarre events which take the heart right out of you.  
arcarsenal : 9/15/2014 6:08 pm : link
That's it in a nutshell.

I went from feeling really good about our chances and then the next 3 plays were: dropped 3rd down pass that would have resulted in a 1st down, punt return TD, fumble on KR / turnover

That's a hell of a sequence right there in terms of taking the wind right the fuck out of our collective sails.

These things have to stop happening. This team needs to stop making mistakes like that because we're not good enough to overcome them. That's all it comes down to.
It's not quite that easy Coach  
Giants2012 : 9/15/2014 6:13 pm : link
Yes, we're behind team and coaching staff.

It's ok for us to question why young players get an opportunity and quickly gets sent to the bench so often while a veterans makes more mistakes and remain on the field.

We saw Moore miss a sack on opening night and get sent to the bench while a veteran did little. We've seen many receivers show signs yet never even get a sniff at kickoff returns while a veteran does little. We saw David Wilson miss a block and thrown in a dog house. Sure, coach knows best but it's a tough sell when the fans actions effect the young men on the field yet the young men are not performing too well under the coach despite many OTA's, etc or not given the chance by the coach if they make one mistake.

Love ya coach and don't want a change but fans were getting bitter at this mess a lot earlier than this United We Stand message. Worry about the team and the fans will worry about ourselves (maybe the stadium itself can stop telling us when and when not to cheer).
I get on him  
Danny Kanell : 9/15/2014 6:14 pm : link
but I also appreciate him for who he is and what he's done.

And that's a great message. It got me a little fired up. Thanks for posting.
^^^^^  
Giants2012 : 9/15/2014 6:16 pm : link
and coach, we're coming off two straight years of hearing players say

"we know how good we are"
"no loss of confidence in this room"
"hey, they get paid too"
"we didn't prepare for the backup quarterback"
"it's a long season"
"it's correctable"
"we're trying to figure it out"
"have get out dog back" opening day two years in a row
etc, etc, etc

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SanFranGiantsFan : 9/15/2014 6:18 pm : link
Give the fans stuff to cheer about.
The random bad things  
Jerry in DC : 9/15/2014 6:29 pm : link
happen to every team - it's just the nature of sports. It's possible that random bad things happen to bad teams more often, but it's also possible that it's not. You just don't remember them as much when you go on to win - whether it's a bad call, a bad bounce, etc.

One that comes to mind is opening night when Earl Thomas muffed the punt that he should've fair caught. That was a dumb play and a potentially costly one. But Seattle was so dominant in regular play-to-play action over the course of 60 minutesg that it didn't matter.

Any reasonably close football game can be analyzed in hindsight to point to a handful of plays that determined the outcome. This is certainly true of yesterday's Giants game. Trying to minimize mistakes that lead to high-leverage plays is obviously a good thing. But it's also hard to do. I mean, Rashad Jennings knows he's not supposed to drop a ball when he falls down. He's probably never done that before in 20 years of playing football.

But these things will happen to all teams. The good teams are good enough on a play-by-play basis to overcome the random mistakes. The bad teams aren't.
RE: I get on him  
Big Blue '56 : 9/15/2014 6:31 pm : link
In comment 11864887 Danny Kanell said:
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but I also appreciate him for who he is and what he's done.

And that's a great message. It got me a little fired up. Thanks for posting.


Me too. I found myself shouting, "let's go!" :)
Jerry..  
arcarsenal : 9/15/2014 6:34 pm : link
Yes, but more specifically the turnovers. We've been turning the ball over multiple times per game for a long time now. Mistakes are going to happen, it's hard to play a perfect game. But this team is making far too many of them. There's a point where you just can't make that many and expect to win games.

It's not necessarily just a coincidence that we were the team making multiple mistakes in each of these games while our opponents made basically.. none.

You have to protect the football in this league. If you don't, you're very likely to lose.
If you want the fans to stay in the game and be loud  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2014 6:37 pm : link
stop stabbing them in the heart on 3rd and 18s over and over and over and over.
RE: If you want the fans to stay in the game and be loud  
Big Blue '56 : 9/15/2014 6:42 pm : link
In comment 11864923 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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stop stabbing them in the heart on 3rd and 18s over and over and over and over.


He agrees with you
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micky : 9/15/2014 6:43 pm : link
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If the players had the same attitude  
Headhunter : 9/15/2014 6:44 pm : link
as the majority of people who post here, then 0-16 was a lock. Thankfully they are professionals and and not hysterical naysayers. They might not win on Sunday, but they go out with the attitude they will, unlike most here
Hey Tom:  
natefit : 9/15/2014 6:45 pm : link
"Talk is cheap. WIN the game." hehe...
Goodbye Allie  
Stan from LA : 9/15/2014 6:51 pm : link
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Who here survived the 1970s? :) Piscarcik to Csonka... oh no!! I was there for that one! OC Gibson got fired the next day. Fly that Banner! Burn those tickets and send the ashes to the front office! Hey guys, before the onslaught of free agency, we had to endure a decade and more of lousy football. At least teams can turn it around in a year; look at the Chiefs!

What's that saying about not learning from history? - ( New Window )
Give us fans reason to be excited  
redbeard : 9/15/2014 6:54 pm : link
We are approaching two years of shit football. The team has to earn the fans excitement back.


I was juiced until Ginn drove a stake in our heart. Unfortunately that isn't an isolated incident....it's been our MO for the better part of two years. We don't shoot ourselves in the foot....we misfire with a 10 gauge and blow it right the fuck off
instead of benching rookies for making mistakes  
jsboston : 9/15/2014 7:03 pm : link
how about benching the veterans for making mistakes? that would be a start.
2 games in  
Fish : 9/15/2014 7:05 pm : link
and I am exhausted already
RE: 2 games in  
Big Blue '56 : 9/15/2014 7:05 pm : link
In comment 11864962 Fish said:
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and I am exhausted already


Lol
RE: If you want the fans to stay in the game and be loud  
Chef : 9/15/2014 7:12 pm : link
In comment 11864923 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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stop stabbing them in the heart on 3rd and 18s over and over and over and over.


How the Giants can enable the opponent to convert on third and long with regularity for seasons now is at top of my frustrations!

It is so common that good stops on 1st and 2nd down do not matter to me because I know the inevitable...
I'll be there Sunday screaming my fucking head off  
djm : 9/15/2014 7:23 pm : link
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RE: The random bad things  
djm : 9/15/2014 7:27 pm : link
In comment 11864913 Jerry in DC said:
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happen to every team - it's just the nature of sports. It's possible that random bad things happen to bad teams more often, but it's also possible that it's not. You just don't remember them as much when you go on to win - whether it's a bad call, a bad bounce, etc.

One that comes to mind is opening night when Earl Thomas muffed the punt that he should've fair caught. That was a dumb play and a potentially costly one. But Seattle was so dominant in regular play-to-play action over the course of 60 minutesg that it didn't matter.

Any reasonably close football game can be analyzed in hindsight to point to a handful of plays that determined the outcome. This is certainly true of yesterday's Giants game. Trying to minimize mistakes that lead to high-leverage plays is obviously a good thing. But it's also hard to do. I mean, Rashad Jennings knows he's not supposed to drop a ball when he falls down. He's probably never done that before in 20 years of playing football.

But these things will happen to all teams. The good teams are good enough on a play-by-play basis to overcome the random mistakes. The bad teams aren't.


Bingo. We have no room for error. Problem is this team doesn't make one or two mistakes a game. They make 3-4-5 or more.

Since 2010 the mistake prone nature of this team is staggering. Just brutal. That they were able to sneak a Super Bowl title in there somehow is truly remarkable.

The personality of this team has changed dramatically since 2008.
You can tell who goes to games  
Headhunter : 9/15/2014 7:30 pm : link
and who sits on the sofa. Yeah I'm going to the game and sit on my hands, yeah, not in this lifetime
Problem with this team is that there is no margin for error….  
Simms11 : 9/15/2014 7:49 pm : link
we are just not that talented. If we play disciplined, mistake free football (smart football, as Eli calls it) we have a chance in every game, but we continue to beat ourselves. Players are taking accountability. Let's hope it carries over.
RE: The random bad things  
Big Blue '56 : 9/15/2014 7:49 pm : link
In comment 11864913 Jerry in DC said:
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happen to every team - it's just the nature of sports. It's possible that random bad things happen to bad teams more often, but it's also possible that it's not. You just don't remember them as much when you go on to win - whether it's a bad call, a bad bounce, etc.

One that comes to mind is opening night when Earl Thomas muffed the punt that he should've fair caught. That was a dumb play and a potentially costly one. But Seattle was so dominant in regular play-to-play action over the course of 60 minutesg that it didn't matter.

Any reasonably close football game can be analyzed in hindsight to point to a handful of plays that determined the outcome. This is certainly true of yesterday's Giants game. Trying to minimize mistakes that lead to high-leverage plays is obviously a good thing. But it's also hard to do. I mean, Rashad Jennings knows he's not supposed to drop a ball when he falls down. He's probably never done that before in 20 years of playing football.

But these things will happen to all teams. The good teams are good enough on a play-by-play basis to overcome the random mistakes. The bad teams aren't.


I think if we harken back to 2011, we probably be surprised to see how error-filled our performances were until we got it together down the stretch. Do we all remember that Seattle game against a pathetic Seahawks squad at home?

Point is, when you're going well, mistakes are at a minimum. When you're not they are magnified..Per usual, i'll give the team some time before I get officially elated or pissed..I think Seattle's and SF's games yesterday were good examples of magnified mistakes(no, I'm not yet comparing us to them in terms of talent)..
1 score  
RetroJint : 9/15/2014 7:54 pm : link
deficit, 33% of the stadium empty. I do not go anymore since I got sick. Coughlin is being easy with these comments. Giants Stadium seldom provided an oppressive atmosphere for visiting teams. Met Life has followed the tradition.
What Arc Said  
BBurns : 9/15/2014 8:03 pm : link
We get our first win next week book it .
Merit to both sides  
DavidinBMNY : 9/15/2014 8:04 pm : link
I love Coach. Great message. At the same time this is a results oriented business and the team has to get it done. They have to get a win at a point in the season when it matters. Being competitive isn't enough. Handing a game to a team with a backup QB and unable to win your home opener isn't enough.

So it's definitely fair to ask for this, but it's a 2 way street. There's a tremendous amount of emotional investment by the fans in the team. There has been no enjoyment with this team in a long time. In today's NFL that can't continue. In a parity based league the Giants have to rebound, basically now.

Get a win at home and then one on the road and Metlife will be filled and behind you Coach. It doesn't have to be pretty. It can be downright ugly. Trickery is OK if needed.

Get it done!
After watching last years press conference's  
ghost718 : 9/15/2014 8:16 pm : link
Do you really want anyone other than Coughlin doing this sorta thing.

Jerry Reese - "Well when you win Superbowl's,it's like a lifetime pass to act stupid"

Mara - "You're looking at the proud owner of a Jerell Jernigan jersey,get these baby's while there hot"
Competitive in the 4th quarter. Our new standard.  
RDJR : 9/15/2014 9:08 pm : link
It was the freaking Arizona Cardinals with a backup QB that hadn't started since 2010. My how low have we sunk?
Bizarre events?  
Bill in UT : 9/15/2014 9:40 pm : link
Shit, if the fates are against us, what chance do we have?
I'm accepting Tom's challenge.  
Geomon : 9/15/2014 10:17 pm : link
I won't feel sorry for ourselves and I expect the team to get better as the season progresses. The New York Giants are my team, I won't abandon them because of a bad season.
RE: 1 score  
Big Blue '56 : 9/16/2014 11:38 am : link
In comment 11865074 RetroJint said:
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deficit, 33% of the stadium empty. I do not go anymore since I got sick. Coughlin is being easy with these comments. Giants Stadium seldom provided an oppressive atmosphere for visiting teams. Met Life has followed the tradition.


RJ, are you better now?
Is this the year Mike Francessa has to talk hockey?  
hudson : 9/16/2014 3:58 pm : link
First time in basically 30+ years NY has no good baseball or football team. He just may have to talk hockey if the a Rangers pick up where they left off.
RE: Hated how they trotted that scumbag LT  
Vin R : 9/16/2014 4:09 pm : link
In comment 11864837 Default said:
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out there yesterday.


Eliminate these bizarre events which take the heart right out of you.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/16/2014 4:11 pm : link
Tom's been fighting this battle since 2010.

Maybe 2006 if we're being honest.
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