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Coach Coughlin...

M.S. : 9/15/2014 6:47 pm
...so, I usually give our head coach a pass on tons of stuff BBIers usually criticize him for, sometimes quite harshly.

But here the Giants were in their home opener against a conference team after being thoroughly humiliated the prior game (not to mention the year-long humiliation of last season)...

...and you woulda thunk it was the Head Coach's job to get this team fired up and on the field ready to eat glass.

And then the Cards come out with a back up QB and for the entire 1st quarter kick our ass.

That's gotta reflect on the Head Coach in some way.
they were not lacking fire  
Carthonfan : 9/15/2014 6:57 pm : link
They gave up the first 7 points on penalties, including a late hit personal foul on 3rd and long. Late hits are not caused by lack of fire...
This team  
Harry53 : 9/15/2014 6:59 pm : link
Has been unprepared to play, mistake prone, unable to communicate, and has 2 coordinators that are among the worst in football. They have not played a clean game since the 49ers game in 2012. Tom had a nice run but it's time for him to retire......
RE: This team  
oldutican : 9/15/2014 7:09 pm : link
In comment 11864957 Harry53 said:
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Has been unprepared to play, mistake prone, unable to communicate, and has 2 coordinators that are among the worst in football. They have not played a clean game since the 49ers game in 2012. Tom had a nice run but it's time for him to retire......

Amen
Coach Coughlin  
jpat54 : 9/15/2014 7:16 pm : link
It's not that they're unprepared,There's just not enough talent on the squad.You can't teach talent,either you have it or you don't.
Not a lot of talent  
Harry53 : 9/15/2014 7:19 pm : link
On offense with the exception of Eli, but the defense does have talent they are being used incorrectly and the game plans are lousy. I blame Fewell, but TC is the head coach it is up to him to get it fixed or hire someone new.
Poor  
RetroJint : 9/15/2014 8:06 pm : link
players miss assignments, commit penalties & fail to win their one-on-one match-ups. That's why they are poor players. Parcells was 3-12-1 & 6-9 with poor players. He did not win early on with Dallas either. That is about where Tom is right now. And note the comment above about the 2 lousy coordinators. McAdoo & whom you ask? No he did not mean that you see. McAdoo has an offense that is averaging 14 points. The other 2 guys have 3 rings between them. They are the assholes.
It's not effort with this team  
djm : 9/15/2014 8:09 pm : link
It's not passion with this team. It's never been those things.

The giants have been one of the dumbest teams in the nfl. Mistake prone year after year. That's the problem today. That was the problem last year.
RE: It's not effort with this team  
lecky : 9/15/2014 8:12 pm : link
In comment 11865108 djm said:
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It's not passion with this team. It's never been those things.

The giants have been one of the dumbest teams in the nfl. Mistake prone year after year. That's the problem today. That was the problem last year.


And they continue to do it year after year with different players.
The 2 lousy coordinators  
Harry53 : 9/15/2014 8:19 pm : link
Are Fewell and Quinn how can we possibly know about Mccadoo?
McAdoo  
blue42 : 9/15/2014 8:24 pm : link
can't be remotely considered for head coach....I'm not sure he's a bona-fide O.C yet.
why  
blue42 : 9/15/2014 8:26 pm : link
is your corner eight yards off the WR on the 8 yard line?

To many soft coverages and to much zone.
Who  
Harry53 : 9/15/2014 8:26 pm : link
Is saying Mccadoo should be the head coach?
His time has past  
JPinstripes : 9/15/2014 8:32 pm : link
sign me up for big brother Gruden, get some excitement back into this franchise.
Coughlin fired up his team by talking about the past  
Jupiter : 9/15/2014 8:36 pm : link
about an event that happened 11 years and 3 days earlier. He was preaching it to players who were children at the time, most of whom lived 1000 or more miles away.
Say what?  
Doomster : 9/15/2014 8:41 pm : link
Poor
RetroJint : 8:06 pm : link : reply
players miss assignments, commit penalties & fail to win their one-on-one match-ups. That's why they are poor players. Parcells was 3-12-1 & 6-9 with poor players.

You pick Parcell's first season as head coach and a strike year?
Well..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/15/2014 8:45 pm : link
I guess it didn't take long to have somebody say we were flat.

By my count now, every loss since 2001 has been blamed by at least one guy here on "being flat".

not surprisingly, this week it is M.S. who specializes in the most basic (and shallow) of analysis week after week.

He's JerseyJoe without fibromyalgia and the arrogance.
Cardinals early TD  
bceagle05 : 9/15/2014 8:49 pm : link
was a product of the officials. Coughlin doesn't coach them.
what does talent have to do with mistakes?  
oipolloi : 9/15/2014 11:28 pm : link
Guys taking stupid penalties, not playing to the whistle, not being on the same page with one another. That has nothing to do with talent.

Like I said earlier, I don't blame Coughlin. I just think the message is not getting through as effectively. I see it with teachers all the time. They do the same prep, teach the same material--but all of sudden they just go from being great teachers that everybody loves to being boring old guys that none of the students want to take.

I think Coughlin lost the veteran leadership on this team and that has hurt his ability to teach these newer, younger players. Maybe things will get better as the season goes on. But the first two games, this team has not played Tom Coughlin football. And its not the coordinators alone who are responsible because the miscues have been in all three phases of the game: offense, defense and ST. That points to the HC.

Coughlin has proved his detractors wrong before, let's hope he can do it again. But I wouldn't count on it.
Fewell and Quinn....  
PonderingObserver : 9/16/2014 12:54 am : link
Really have to go...
If they're not gone, who's fault is it?
PonderingObserver  
blueblood'11 : 9/16/2014 8:11 am : link
From your lips to Gods ears. Fewell has to go. He is predictable, his soft coverages burn them most of the time and his blitzes never seem to work or they get burned on short dump off passes.

After watching the Eagle game last night it looks to be a huge mismatch. Our DC against the Chip Kelly run offense.
I thought the team came out VERY fired up  
nicky43 : 9/16/2014 11:47 am : link
on both D and O. This game was a comedy of weird blunders and very bad officiating. As TC said, we were looking in good shape until the drop by Cruz, the AZ return for a TD, and the return fumble by us. That blew the whole game.
RE: Coughlin fired up his team by talking about the past  
nicky43 : 9/16/2014 11:49 am : link
In comment 11865155 Jupiter said:
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about an event that happened 11 years and 3 days earlier. He was preaching it to players who were children at the time, most of whom lived 1000 or more miles away.


If you think that was the only message TC gave the team to fire them up, then you don't know TC.
Ask yourself this  
weaverpsu : 9/16/2014 11:15 pm : link
When is the last time you said, "man, that was an inventive blitz. They didn't see that coming." For me, not since Spags. Tuck and Rolle complained about the defense "reacting" last year I believe and Rolle mentioned something similar after the first game on the FAN.
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