for 3 simulated innings. He threw everything but his slider did not want to put needless torque on the elbow. He now goes into a normal off season preparing for Spring Training with no restrictions. Nimmo and Matz picked up their organization Sterling Awards, Alderson pointed out how Nimmo has grown into a man's body. Regardless of the winter and I hope they improve without costing a favorite young arm, I'm looking forward to 2015 as much as any Met season since they were bringing up Reyes and Wright. Not making predictions, just looking forward to it
“There probably will be an announcement, but closer to the end of the season, if not the end of the season,” Alderson said at Citi Field, before the Mets wasted another stellar Jacob deGrom outing with a 6-5 loss to the Marlins.
player who is "good enough" to worry about paying them an extra year of arbitration vs. the minimum is going to be effected by the super 2 deadline (now more than ever, as the threshold is now top 22% vs. 17) It would be pretty shocking to see Matz before late June. 1 extra year of arbitration could be worth as much as 15 million depending on how good you think the pitcher is.
MLBTR released the projected Super Two cutoff following the 2014 season. Super Two status is awarded to players with more than two, but less than three years of service time. Only the players with the top 22% of service time in that group are Super Two eligible. Any player who is Super Two eligible gets their third league minimum year replaced with an extra year of arbitration. This gives a Super Two player two years of league minimum pay, and four years of arbitration, rather than the usual three and three. The extra year of arbitration can be costly, especially to impact players, which is why teams try to avoid Super Two status.
Mets estimated had TDA (using him as an example) would have cost 12 million more as a Super Two guy vs. a guy they waited on. That's pretty significant money even if the Mets raise payroll going forward so if you think a player is a multi-year player for your team and a good one you almost "have to" wait it out, unless you have a monster payroll.
am very, very high on Molina (fully admitting as a mere fan I have no idea how realistic it is that he can stay healthy with his "iffy" mechanics) but in terms of upside he has to be near the top in the system. Huge bust potential but still.
Lopez is my choice to manage them going forward too. Plus side is there are only so many openings around the league and Lopez is young and unproven so hopefully he doesn't get poached.
when all these young guys are headed towards Free Agency that the team will have been sold or the real estate market becomes so bullish Sterlung Enterprises makes a billion or two
has been every bit as good as his era suggests, Wheeler (not knocking Wheeler) has some kinks under the hood. I 100% would NOT deal Wheeler just to deal him but if someone is offering a bit bat who isn't old, I'm giving up Wheeler over deGrom. Best still in the minors I'd probably go
Thor
Matz
Molina
I'm not for making Harvey, deGrom and Matz unavailable.
liked McHugh, he's been ace caliber for the Astros. A rare clunker from Sandy in terms of trades.
Reading about McHugh, he seemed to have reinvented himself after coming to the Astros. The Rockies, who need all the pitching then can get, let him go after making the trade with the Mets.
had excellent minor league numbers. I'm not ripping Sandy but I didn't like the trade at the time as I thought McHugh would be a solid 4-5 starter, he's obviously been better than that, just didn't/don't like Eric Young as a player, still don't.
had excellent minor league numbers. I'm not ripping Sandy but I didn't like the trade at the time as I thought McHugh would be a solid 4-5 starter, he's obviously been better than that, just didn't/don't like Eric Young as a player, still don't.
In hindsight, yeah you prefer to have McHugh over EY jr. If the Mets were patient with McHugh and let him figure out the majors, they probably would have kept him.
think it's very, very, very easy to find an Eric Young Jr. and much harder to find young pitching. Again, I'm not going nuts over the move but I'm pretty honest on here and I always liked McHugh and didn't care for the trade. I'm often wrong, this time I was not lol McHugh has surpassed expectations, no denying that at all but I thought he could be Gee-esque.
"I think we’d be reluctant to throw him in the pen," Alderson said. "It is a possibility. You try to go into the season eight or nine deep with starting pitching that you can rely on. He would certainly be in that mix at this point. Taking him out of that mix so he’s not lengthened out or he’s not ready to go if something were to happen – as it always does – so it’s unlikely."
Still, Matz has made a case to be noticed.
"He was really great all season," Alderson said.
"You don’t see a lefthander sitting at 93-94 consistently with the assortment of pitches. He was great this season. Very definitely on the short list at this point."
his health history a move to the pen could be a disaster. People act like the pen is great for a pitchers health but some guys just aren't meant to pitch back to back days or 3-4 times per week.
Something has gone really wrong or we have dealt a lot of assets. Assuming colon is on the team he essentially has to leapfrog degrom, Thor, and montero (all of which may start in Las Vegas for a variety of reasons). I mean you have to assume that they are able to trade colon in the offseason but if he doesn't get value I wouldn't be shocked if he kept him and had degrom start in Vegas while every one of us loses our minds.
“There probably will be an announcement, but closer to the end of the season, if not the end of the season,” Alderson said at Citi Field, before the Mets wasted another stellar Jacob deGrom outing with a 6-5 loss to the Marlins.
nobody really talks about him 41/2 ratio in August is pretty awesome and really 64 baserunners in 9 PCL starts in over 52 innings is pretty impressive. He's not a big guy and the reports all seem to agree withthat he may have trouble maintaining his stuff but as a reliever he might be yet another solid option.
Since McHugh's name been brought up. One thing to keep in mind this entire offseason when everyone is screaming to acquire any and every big name. Complaining the Mets refuse to spend money. This years mets are five games behind the wild card. mcHugh and Cowgill with a combined 5 1/2 WAR. Just something to think about.
Something has gone really wrong or we have dealt a lot of assets. Assuming colon is on the team he essentially has to leapfrog degrom, Thor, and montero (all of which may start in Las Vegas for a variety of reasons). I mean you have to assume that they are able to trade colon in the offseason but if he doesn't get value I wouldn't be shocked if he kept him and had degrom start in Vegas while every one of us loses our minds.
I'd be shocked if Colon was a Met on opening day. There's just no reason for him to be on this team in 2015. $10M in a back-end starter is a waste.
Since McHugh's name been brought up. One thing to keep in mind this entire offseason when everyone is screaming to acquire any and every big name. Complaining the Mets refuse to spend money. This years mets are five games behind the wild card. mcHugh and Cowgill with a combined 5 1/2 WAR. Just something to think about.
Not to single you out, Shecky, but I see this all the time and it just annoys the hell out of me. Probably because people hang on the WAR stat like it's the end-all/be-all way to compare players...and I'm definitely not part of that group.
But just because the Mets are 5 games behind the 2nd wild card, doesn't mean that we would automatically be 5 games better if we had two players all year that have a combined 5 1/2 WAR. Sure, it's an easy argument but it's just so ridiculous. Different league, different park, different pitchers, different hitters, different batting position, different variables altogether. WAR is such a variable, complex, imperfect statistic where many have different ways to calculate. I know that I'm probably in the minority here on BBI since so many love to slobber all over the WAR stat, but that's just my feeling.
I feel pretty comfortable in saying that if we had McHugh and Cowgill on this team...we'd still be 5 games out.
Are you seeing something different? Certone said it's simply his public workout.
Matthew Cerrone: I’m told the Mets will be among the teams watching free-agent Cuban OF Yasmani Tomas during his public workout in the Dominican Republic on Sept. 21.
His work out in the Dominican on September 21. I wouldn't be stunned if they made a legitimate run, if it stays below 100 million for 7 years, he would be cheaper than a ML Free Agent
No worries on singling me out. Certainly didn't want to say mets would be half a game up in wild card. Waaa simply saying if we had kept a solid LF and one of the biggest surprise SPs - we would have a team that is close to contention. Yet both those players were castors from one of the leagues worst teams (Mets) last year. My point was we need better players - and they don't have to necessarily be big name players. As Dan mentioned several times, find the next Dickerson. Before he breaks out.
put on a show in BP yesterday.Alderson was thrilled with his development this year. Starting to turn on the ball and hit for power. His Binghamton numbers were .238 with 6 Home Runs which is why ML numbers don't always tell the story. Collins commented that he is coming fast
cites the Cardinals as an example of not spending like crazy and being good... their 2014 payroll opening day was 27 million more than the Mets. You know what 27 million in talent could look like? What a silly statement. For 27 million they could have had Peralta at SS and Morse in LF with money left over and been a legit playoff contender.
upgrade LF and SS, and we have a team.
Harvey
DeGrom
Wheeler
pick 2 of:
Noah
Gee
Niesse
Montero
Parnell
Black
Famila
Mejia
I like post season chances
“There probably will be an announcement, but closer to the end of the season, if not the end of the season,” Alderson said at Citi Field, before the Mets wasted another stellar Jacob deGrom outing with a 6-5 loss to the Marlins.
Thor, Matz, Herrera, Nimmo, Plawecki, Molina, Rosario, Montero, Cecchini, Conforto would be my top 10 prospects
Lol, seriously? Wow.
Collins coming back is no surprise, though. The Mets are allergic to making good decisions.
Thor
Matz
Molina
I'm not for making Harvey, deGrom and Matz unavailable.
Reading about McHugh, he seemed to have reinvented himself after coming to the Astros. The Rockies, who need all the pitching then can get, let him go after making the trade with the Mets.
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In hindsight, yeah you prefer to have McHugh over EY jr. If the Mets were patient with McHugh and let him figure out the majors, they probably would have kept him.
Still, Matz has made a case to be noticed.
"He was really great all season," Alderson said.
"You don’t see a lefthander sitting at 93-94 consistently with the assortment of pitches. He was great this season. Very definitely on the short list at this point."
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“There probably will be an announcement, but closer to the end of the season, if not the end of the season,” Alderson said at Citi Field, before the Mets wasted another stellar Jacob deGrom outing with a 6-5 loss to the Marlins.
Mets best kept secret.
I'd be shocked if Colon was a Met on opening day. There's just no reason for him to be on this team in 2015. $10M in a back-end starter is a waste.
Aren't practically all MLB teams sending reps to his workout?
Not to single you out, Shecky, but I see this all the time and it just annoys the hell out of me. Probably because people hang on the WAR stat like it's the end-all/be-all way to compare players...and I'm definitely not part of that group.
But just because the Mets are 5 games behind the 2nd wild card, doesn't mean that we would automatically be 5 games better if we had two players all year that have a combined 5 1/2 WAR. Sure, it's an easy argument but it's just so ridiculous. Different league, different park, different pitchers, different hitters, different batting position, different variables altogether. WAR is such a variable, complex, imperfect statistic where many have different ways to calculate. I know that I'm probably in the minority here on BBI since so many love to slobber all over the WAR stat, but that's just my feeling.
I feel pretty comfortable in saying that if we had McHugh and Cowgill on this team...we'd still be 5 games out.
Matthew Cerrone: I’m told the Mets will be among the teams watching free-agent Cuban OF Yasmani Tomas during his public workout in the Dominican Republic on Sept. 21.
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