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The NFL's Image

Boo57 : 9/17/2014 7:55 pm
While some of the NFL's problems are self-created... i.e. neglecting retired players and/or hiding injury reports/ studies, others are caused by miscreants... i.e. Ray Rice, Ray McDonald, or suspected miscreants like Adrian Peterson. These types of problems need to be handled swiftly and decisively from within. Perhaps a stronger Commissioner with the ability to properly interpret present contract language is the cure.

Other image problems are caused by the politically correct police who make stupid demands such as changing the name of the Redskins. (After 80+ years, this is suddenly offensive?!?)Or demand that guys like Rice, McDonald or Peterson are banned for life without any due process. Yet the very same PC police chastized Tim Tebow and the NFL for allowing him to make the Sign of the Cross and are now demanding that RGIII no longer wear his "Jesus T-Shirt" at press conferences.

Looks like there's no room for good or bad with the PC police!
FACT,  
shepherdsam : 9/17/2014 8:06 pm : link
Jesus did not wear a lot of T-shirts.
FACT  
Davisian : 9/17/2014 8:29 pm : link
The PC police do not chastize. That's for pussy queers. They roundhouse kick injuns and jesus freaks in the fuckin face.

Imagine how much  
Rob in NYC : 9/17/2014 8:35 pm : link
The first 56 Boos sucked...
FACT,  
shepherdsam : 9/17/2014 8:41 pm : link
Mac does not require their own police.
...  
Wuphat : 9/17/2014 8:43 pm : link
Someone without a whit of thought  
Boo57 : 9/17/2014 8:45 pm : link
wouldn't care about the recent flux of the NFL. They would ignore the goings-on and spend their time attacking those who do care.
FACT,  
shepherdsam : 9/17/2014 8:47 pm : link
I happen to have a great capacity for flux.
Hey Boo...  
Chris in Philly : 9/17/2014 8:49 pm : link
This is the last time I'm going to tell you. Stop scaring Jem and Scout.
You'd have a point  
Wuphat : 9/17/2014 8:49 pm : link
if there weren't already a number of threads covering those topics already.

Maybe you missed them.
Another pretty interesting question relating to all this  
BillT : 9/17/2014 8:52 pm : link
Why Didn’t Ray Rice Get the Richie Incognito Treatment Right Away?
Link - ( New Window )
Tattoos stand out more on white guys?  
shepherdsam : 9/17/2014 8:56 pm : link
.
Fact  
Berrylish : 9/17/2014 8:58 pm : link
I love reading Sheps posts as though they are spoken by Mitch Hedberg.
FACT  
Davisian : 9/17/2014 9:02 pm : link
Mitch Hedberg hasn't said a word about the domestic violence problem in the NFL. He just doesn't care.

RE: FACT,  
Rob in NYC : 9/17/2014 9:04 pm : link
In comment 11868878 shepherdsam said:
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I happen to have a great capacity for flux.


FACT - sheppers is close to inventing a time machine.
This is a tee shirt that relates to Mitch Hedberg. Fact.  
vibe4giants : 9/17/2014 9:06 pm : link
FACT  
Berrylish : 9/17/2014 9:07 pm : link
I am at half way to St pattys day very very close to the hotel where Mitch Hedberg met his demise. Drinking hacker-pschoor octoberfest.
And while we're at it  
BillT : 9/17/2014 9:08 pm : link
How have black NFL players have fared compared to young black men not in the NFL.

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According to the Bureau of Justice statistics, one in three black men can expect to go to prison in their lifetime. That is the figure cited by the NAACP in its criminal justice fact sheet. In the NFL, that figure is closer to one in three hundred.



link - ( New Window )
Maybe if that elevator  
shepherdsam : 9/17/2014 9:09 pm : link
was half as quiet as Hedberg seems to be on this issue, there'd have been no issue.
FACT  
Davisian : 9/17/2014 9:09 pm : link
There's a bureau of justice statistics?

I'm not as funny as Shep, Dav or CiP  
Rocky Thompson : 9/17/2014 9:10 pm : link

So I'll be truthful and brief:

When you advertise your product to non football fans for ratings, add in the fact that any Tom, Dick or Mary has access to commentary on a sport they don't understand, start opening the book on football player's that have been coddled through college, then add video of wrong doings, it's a wet dream for reporters looking to attach their name to any scandal to further their career.

I'm not condoning any players actions, I would personally fight Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson for what they've done and take my ass kicking in the name of what's right but

If you open the book on every player, coach and executive in the NFL, there will be no football.

Careful what you wish for people...
barry  
Rocky Thompson : 9/17/2014 9:13 pm : link

You're not really a cat person, are you?
RE: FACT,  
BMac : 9/17/2014 9:13 pm : link
In comment 11868878 shepherdsam said:
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I happen to have a great capacity for flux.


Well then, get fluxed!
Rocko  
Berrylish : 9/17/2014 9:14 pm : link
Nope. Allergic !
Bar  
Rocky Thompson : 9/17/2014 9:23 pm : link

I would have bumped the Hope J thread but it made both me and Cyn cry. I haven't cried since I found out Arrested Development went to Netflix.

If you care to share your Bob in Annapolis ashes story, I can muster the emotions to add to the thread.

There's many not worthy here but many more that don't post that would like to know. You're call hon...
FACT  
Davisian : 9/17/2014 9:32 pm : link
"I'm not as funny as Shep, Dav or CiP"

But I'm better looking!  
Rocky Thompson : 9/17/2014 9:34 pm : link
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That's just like, your opinion man.  
shepherdsam : 9/17/2014 9:34 pm : link


- Gay BBIers
Got no problem with gay BBIers  
Rocky Thompson : 9/17/2014 9:49 pm : link

Just don't kiss me in front of my son or without brushing your teeth...
Rocko  
Berrylish : 9/17/2014 10:17 pm : link
Nope. Allergic !
Damn barry  
Rocky Thompson : 9/17/2014 10:27 pm : link

If you didn't want to talk to me, you could have just said so

No need to go to auto post, yeesh...
The song thread ?  
Berrylish : 9/17/2014 10:28 pm : link
Is that what you mean?
No  
Rocky Thompson : 9/17/2014 10:30 pm : link
I meant your 9:14 and your 10:17. Looked like you set the same response every hour or so...
Oh  
Berrylish : 9/17/2014 10:31 pm : link
My phone. Totally not taking personal responsibility for that. And regarding Hope, is it the song thread you are talking about ?
Go home Berry, you're drunk.  
arcarsenal : 9/17/2014 10:31 pm : link
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Yes barry  
Rocky Thompson : 9/17/2014 10:35 pm : link

You can email me tomorrow if you're drunk ( thanks arc), god bless, I miss drinking.

Facebook Cyn for the address. Be safe sweetie...
Lol no way  
Berrylish : 9/17/2014 10:44 pm : link
I had one beer. I was the driver :). Got work and clinical mañana! Ain't no time for tomfoolery!
FACT  
Davisian : 9/17/2014 10:47 pm : link
Have another.

Who the hell is Tom  
Rocky Thompson : 9/17/2014 10:50 pm : link

And did you get a printout of his medical records? Sponge worthy?

Re-read when you get home, if you find time, the story is worth telling.

Night, night barry...
Sweet dreams Artie!  
Davisian : 9/17/2014 11:02 pm : link
!
fact  
Jints in Carolina : 9/17/2014 11:27 pm : link
you all suck shit
FACT  
arcarsenal : 9/17/2014 11:39 pm : link
Suck it, Jints.
FACT  
Davisian : 9/17/2014 11:45 pm : link
lolcarolina

With all due respect ….  
Manny in CA : 9/18/2014 12:14 am : link
Tebow (a Mormon) does not make the sign of the cross because Mormonism does not focus one the cross as most Christ believing denominations do.

http://answeringthecritics.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-mormons-dont-use-symbol-of-cross.html

(In fact, many Christian denominations view Mormonism as a cult). Is this part of the reason why Tebow's demonstrations of reverence for God turns off so many ?

I'm guessing that's part of the reason, but mostly, I'm guessing it's because of the strong evolution of the country toward secularism. It's curious to see, however that African-American athletes (as a whole) lag behind in this mind-set ; it isn't uncommon to see many of them briefly kneel on one knee after scoring a touchdown.

Maybe sensitivity and Political Correctness has shielded them in the past; but now black man RGIII is a target of opportunity. It's interesting, to sit on the sideline and observe how this mini saga unfolds.
Wait  
Rob in NYC : 9/18/2014 12:20 am : link
What?
That was like Manny being so Manny  
Davisian : 9/18/2014 12:35 am : link
It seemed like fake Manny.

There's just so much Manny there.

But I am looking forward to "black man, RGIII- target of opportunity"  
Davisian : 9/18/2014 12:36 am : link
An FX original series..
RE: But I am looking forward to  
BMac : 9/18/2014 6:04 am : link
In comment 11869027 Davisian said:
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An FX original series..


Starring Ben Affleck as RGIII. But who plays Snyder? Billy Barty is gone, and so is J Fred Muggs. Sigh, so many great ones passed.
From todays NYT...  
BMac : 9/18/2014 8:16 am : link
...an article about women and the NFL.

And, this gem:


Women Disillusioned by NFL - ( New Window )
RE: And while we're at it  
map7711 : 9/18/2014 8:23 am : link
In comment 11868900 BillT said:
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How have black NFL players have fared compared to young black men not in the NFL.



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According to the Bureau of Justice statistics, one in three black men can expect to go to prison in their lifetime. That is the figure cited by the NAACP in its criminal justice fact sheet. In the NFL, that figure is closer to one in three hundred.


link - ( New Window )


The problem with this type of comparison is that it leaves out too many variables. You can't just compare black men not in the NFL against black men in the NFL. You have to compare black men not in the NFL who make at least the avg salary of the NFL players. Also, you have factor in black men not in the NFL who completed High School and then had some college studies as well. Can't compare crime stats someone who is living at say the poverty level to someone who is making $2 mil a yr. plus, the men in the NFL have such a huge support system around them, who does the guy making minimum wage have to help them? They certainly don't have a car service at the ready if they had too many drinks one night like the NFL players do.
Does anyone else..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/18/2014 8:32 am : link
want to break it to Manny that Tebow isn't a Mormon?

Should we have mudbear do it?
RE: RE: And while we're at it  
ray in arlington : 9/18/2014 9:11 am : link
In comment 11869091 map7711 said:
Quote:
In comment 11868900 BillT said:


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How have black NFL players have fared compared to young black men not in the NFL.



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According to the Bureau of Justice statistics, one in three black men can expect to go to prison in their lifetime. That is the figure cited by the NAACP in its criminal justice fact sheet. In the NFL, that figure is closer to one in three hundred.


The "one in 3" comes from the Sentencing Project. It is based on projections based on "if current incarceration rates continue" and I have not been able to find the date where the "one in 3" will be reached.(2020?) (2050?)

I do not believe anyone is "projecting" the NFL rate into the future, so the "1 in 300" is a current number.

Basically when we see a comparison on the internet we often have no way of knowing whether the comparison is being performed correctly.








RE: RE: RE: And while we're at it  
ray in arlington : 9/18/2014 9:16 am : link
Actually the Sentencing Project site does say this comes from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. But it still a projection based on "if trends in incarceration rates continue".
Tim Tebow aint mormon  
mac attack : 9/18/2014 2:37 pm : link
I stand corrected ...  
Manny in CA : 9/18/2014 7:27 pm : link
He's not Mormon, he's apparently Baptist.

To the regional point - I've known plenty of Baptists (my dad was one). I've never seen a single one "making the sign of the cross"

But if he's one of the first, I do find it very interesting, to see so many "getting all worked up" over players making brief and innocuous gestures that not insulating to anyone.

Don't ever  
Rob in NYC : 9/18/2014 7:30 pm : link
Change.
So how deep is your love?  
PetesHereNow : 9/18/2014 7:38 pm : link
Just wondering.
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