NFT: Fantasy Football Advice - 9/18/14

They will never start ahead of your three RBs

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ppr league,, TY hilton and Steve Smith are my starters,

i have wes welker on the bench due to his suspension,

should i wait a week ? or should i go ahead and play him. the colts are at the jags and Steve Smith is kinda hot right now...

In comment 11869081 Gordo said:

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ppr league,, TY hilton and Steve Smith are my starters, i have wes welker on the bench due to his suspension, should i wait a week ? or should i go ahead and play him. the colts are at the jags and Steve Smith is kinda hot right now...

Dude, you are screwed no matter what if those are your three options. I hope you have Peyton Manning, Jimmy Graham, McCoy and Forte.

I don't trust Welker but if he is back, which he is, then you have to start him.

I just got offered a trade. 0.5 PPR and I am 0-2 with a crushing 1 point loss last week.

I receive Aaron Rodgers and C. Patterson of the Vikings.

I give up Nick Foles and Dez Bryant.

other WR's are Emmanuel Sanders, Andre Johnson, Golden Tate and Markus Wheaton. Dez is my clear #1

I believe I am rejecting it.

Alfred Morris,
Adrian Peterson
Delanie Walker
Sproles,
Seattle D

also have Cam Newton on my bench

I trade Terrance West, I get TY Hilton

Rest of my RB and WR:
Cordarelle Patterson
Erick Decker
Victor Cruz
Deandre Hopkins

Lesean McCoy
Reggie Bush
Alfred Morris

He's on my waiver wire, and Torrey Smith and Dwayne Bowe have me nervous.

I'd reject the deal.

Dez is better than Patterson -- and you don't know how AP's absence is going to impact the production of the O (despite the fact Patterson will get more carries/targets).

Foles has almost as high of a ceiling as Rodgers, once he gets the O going, in my opinion. The gain you make getting Rodgers doesn't outweigh giving up Dez for Patterson.

Rainey or McFadden ? PPR

I'll probably have to wait for this decision to see if Doug Martin is playing

In comment 11869147 Maximus, Esq. said:

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I'd reject the deal. Dez is better than Patterson -- and you don't know how AP's absence is going to impact the production of the O (despite the fact Patterson will get more carries/targets). Foles has almost as high of a ceiling as Rodgers, once he gets the O going, in my opinion. The gain you make getting Rodgers doesn't outweigh giving up Dez for Patterson.

yea i agree....i rejected it. Thanks.

In comment 11869163 SoZKillA said:

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Rainey or McFadden ? PPR I'll probably have to wait for this decision to see if Doug Martin is playing

Raiders are a mess, but like you said you'll have to find out if Martin is playing.

In comment 11869140 odunde said:

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I trade Terrance West, I get TY Hilton Rest of my RB and WR: Cordarelle Patterson Erick Decker Victor Cruz Deandre Hopkins Lesean McCoy Reggie Bush Alfred Morris

I would probably do it strengthens your Wrs and you still have Mccoy Bush and morris and Tate is going to be back in a couple of weeks anyway...

Question for you guys:

Hawkins vs Ravens or Wheaton vs Carolina

is an attempt to put them somewhere near the same class. They are not. In fact, Foles has looked terrible so far this season and I don't see it changing. I am convinced that last year was the aligning of the moons for him and he's going to be a middle of the pack QB this year. Very unimpressed with him despite him being in a perfect offense for your fantasy QB.

Rodgers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Foles

I can live with Foles dumping off 5 yard passes that go for 40 yards.

Whom shall I start?

1. Reggie Bush vs. Green Bay
2. Bobby Rainey vs. Atlanta

thanks!

This is for my (2) RB slots and (1) Flex spot:

Reggie Bush vs GB
Sproles vs Washington
Doug Martin vs Atl
Rainey vs Atl
TY Hilton vs Jax

Thanks!

In comment 11869163 SoZKillA said:

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Rainey or McFadden ? PPR I'll probably have to wait for this decision to see if Doug Martin is playing

Martin will play, but Rainey is just flat out better. I'm starting him and don't really care if Martin plays or not.

In comment 11869255 Andrew in Austin said:

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Whom shall I start? 1. Reggie Bush vs. Green Bay 2. Bobby Rainey vs. Atlanta thanks!

Bush all the way...GB defense is a sieve

I'm starting Rainey over Bush. Rainey ran right through a great D-line and Atlanta's line is pitiful.

If Martin plays, the touches obviously lessen, but its not a cut and dry scenario, IMO. Bush also has under 100 total yards through 2 games, so you can take that as him losing his luster a bit, or just not breaking out yet (could be either).

Im not suggesting that I'd do that trade, I'm just pointing out that I strongly disagree with the statement that Foles has as high of a ceiling as Rodgers.

In comment 11869301 kmed said:

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Im not suggesting that I'd do that trade, I'm just pointing out that I strongly disagree with the statement that Foles has as high of a ceiling as Rodgers.

All but 2 of Sproles' receiving yards were YAC. Foles looks terrible this year and if it isn't for McCoy/Sproles, he'd be toward the bottom of the league to start the season.

Basically, you can't bank on 150 yards passing to your RB's on a weekly basis.

Ross Tucker þ@RossTuckerNFL ·3m
Bucs beat writer @NFLSTROUD: "Bobby Rainey will start and not just b/c of Doug Martin's knee. Coaches really like him"

"Not just because of Doug Martin's knee. Coaches really like [Rainey]," said beat writer Rick Stroud. To be clear, this looks like educated speculation, not sourced reporting. Coach Lovie Smith has declined to name a starter, only saying he wants to use a committee. But it's not that far-fetched to think that the Bucs want to ride Rainey's hot hand after he put up 174 total yards on 25 touches in Week 2. It's a messy situation, but at this point we'd give Rainey the edge as the better flex play in this cake matchup.

so i hope its like 75/25 split in favor of Rainey, or Martin just not playing at all.

Bush hasn't done much the last two weeks, and is losing time to Bell. He had only 8 touches last week.

I'm considering attempting to trade Carlos Hyde to the Gore owner in my league in order to secure a top defense. The gore owner has two : The Pats and The Niners.

I would then cut the Chargers and attempt to snag another rb from the ww such as Khiry Robinson or Donald Brown. I consider Robinson to be a similar player as Hyde.

What you think? I know he's interested in Hyde as he mentioned him to me several times. (as an aside I doubt he'd be interested in Gates as he already has Jimmy Graham.) Also, the Ravens are avail on the ww.

12 team Standard Scoring, Start 1 Qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 flex (rb/wr), 1 te, 1 k, 1 d, with 5 bench spots.

My team:

Foles
Cam

Lynch
R Jennings
Hyde
Bradshaw

Dez
Maclin
Decker
Wallace

Gronk
Gates

Vinatieri

Chargers

Also, if I don't trade for the Pats or Niners....

WSIS this week?

Chargers @ BILLS

or

Ravens @ CLE

Interested to see how this shakes out.

since week 2 of last year. The 4 games after regressed each time for the most part, then he got the big injury. Not he's kind of injured again.

I can just as easily see him putting up another dud as I can him putting the haters to rest tonight.

For Rainey, he's had enough explosive games where I can call him better. His bad games last year were:

Detroit - close game
49ers - great line, blowout
Rams - great line, had a TD
Saints - huge blowout

Carolina - this year, only 6 touches but scored

pick one:

DeAndre Hopkins vs NYG
Andrew Hawkins vs BAL
Frank Gore vs ARI
Travis Kelce vs MIA

Martin has really regressed and people still look at that game against Oak back in 2012 to justify his high draft standing.

Granted, I believe ATL blows them out tonight and one has to wonder if come the second half whether Rainey is regulated to dump off screen passes?

Who would you consider between Rainey and Hilton as a FLEX?

Hilton hasn't done much yet, but they are playing jax this week...

In comment 11869495 Anando said:

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Who would you consider between Rainey and Hilton as a FLEX? Hilton hasn't done much yet, but they are playing jax this week...

Wait until 8pm and see what reports say about Martin. If it doesn't sound like Martin will get a ton of carrier i'd start Rainey. Otherwise, Hilton will have a big game sooner rather than later.

In comment 11869504 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 11869495 Anando said: Quote: Who would you consider between Rainey and Hilton as a FLEX? Hilton hasn't done much yet, but they are playing jax this week... Wait until 8pm and see what reports say about Martin. If it doesn't sound like Martin will get a ton of carrier i'd start Rainey. Otherwise, Hilton will have a big game sooner rather than later.

thanks!

Ian Rapoport þ@RapSheet ·1m
What about #Bucs RB Doug Martin? I’m told he’s unlikely to play tonight vs. #Falcons with that knee injury. Will test out pregame to be sure

who would yours be:

Montee Ball @SEA
Terrance West vs BAL
Michael Floyd vs SF
Knile Davis @MIA


Right now I have the first three, but if Charles is out, and I believe he is, I'd like to swap out Davis for one of them. Floyd?

West Floyd and Davis...i would not start a RB vs Seattle

In comment 11869580 nygiants16 said:

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West Floyd and Davis...i would not start a RB vs Seattle

normally I wouln't either, but Seattle looks like they had a super bowl hangover last week getting abused by Rivers. That anemic running game even ran a little.

My only hesitation is it's in Seattle and they don't lose there often, but I think Peyton and the Broncos still put up points.

Floyd has a total of 13 targets this year. He most likely will have a bad QB throwing the ball. Montee Ball will be involved in the offense, he can catch the ball. I'd easily sit Floyd.

Kmed.

Larry Donnell or Martellus Bennett for starting TE?

vs DEN or Romo @STL? I thought Romo would be a great fantasy QB this year. Not through 2 weeks he hasn't.

right now my tight ends are Jordan Cameron and Dwayne Allen.

Cameron is still hurt and may not play, if he does im not sure how effective he will be, but ill start him if he plays.

Allen last week stunk fantasy-wise but do i give up on him and sign Niles Paul(who will probably not be much once Reed returns), or Kelce who may be good.


not sure what to do here. im leaning towards dumping allen for kelce but allen could rebound.

In comment 11869608 RC02XX said:

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Larry Donnell or Martellus Bennett for starting TE?

Bennett

I was bullish on Romo considering where his ADP was. He's been dogshit so far. Hopefully that doesn't change.

Donnell or Bennett is a toss up for me. 50/50.

i drafted reed to be my starter and of course he got hurt n his first reception...

It seems with the giants they use Donnel to get Eli into a groove so he gets a lot of production early...

Reggie Bush or Bobby Rainey - who'd you guys go with this week?

In comment 11869610 RicFlair said:

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right now my tight ends are Jordan Cameron and Dwayne Allen. Cameron is still hurt and may not play, if he does im not sure how effective he will be, but ill start him if he plays. Allen last week stunk fantasy-wise but do i give up on him and sign Niles Paul(who will probably not be much once Reed returns), or Kelce who may be good. not sure what to do here. im leaning towards dumping allen for kelce but allen could rebound.

for one week, ride Paul, for the season, Kelce. In PPR Kelce was solid last week.

dropped allen for kelce, im afraid cameron may end up hurt again and kelce has the more long term value.

arrest of Dwyer ?

In comment 11869623 Andy in Halifax said:

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Reggie Bush or Bobby Rainey - who'd you guys go with this week?

I think there's no question that the play is Rainey right now since Martin seems highly unlikely to play.

The RB situation in Detroit is slowly becoming 60-40 in Bell's favor, making Bush less and less of a sure thing especially in non-PPR leagues.

What are people's thoughts on Jeremy Hill vs. Carlos Hyde for the rest of the season? I have Jeremy Hill and I'm considering trading him for Carlos Hyde plus. Hill has more value now but I like Hyde more as a talent and I think Gore is likelier to break down than Bernard. Plus, Hill is on my bench for now anyway. Thoughts?

In comment 11869623 Andy in Halifax said:

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Reggie Bush or Bobby Rainey - who'd you guys go with this week?

Absolutely Rainey, especially if Martin doesn't play. He will get 20 touches as long as it isn't a blow out, and he'll likely get garbage screen passes if its a blowout.

I think it depends on what you are looking for. Hyde is a much better talent, but unless it's a keeper league, I just don't see him having value this season unless Gore gets hurt. I have him and I'm still holding onto him because he'd be amazing if Gore wasn't around, but they barely give him any touches and Gore looks good. Why would that change to the point where Hyde is worth actually starting on my team? Hill's role seems to be increasing a bit as time goes on and I guess at some point he might be worth starting in a pinch. Unlike Hyde, I think he will get enough touches soon where he can at least be startable during bye weeks, even if Bernard is good to go.

that the smart play is to keep Hill. But I'm trying to figure out ways to snatch up Hyde. I'm hoping he has another down week or two and I can buy-low on him.

I'll never root for injuries and I hope Frank Gore stays healthy because he's just one badass mofo who I've liked since his Miami days, but he's a 31 year old RB with 2500 career touches and if he goes down Carlos Hyde becomes an elite fantasy RB. He's the biggest lottery ticket in the league this year imo.

That's why I'm holding onto Hyde myself. I have a pretty good group of RB's(Bernard, Jennings, Miller, Hyde, Forsett). I'd rather hold onto the lottery ticket. If I wasn't quite as deep with potential fill-ins on bye weeks, I might consider Hill over Hyde.

I have Gio Bernard and I was offered Demaryius Thomas straight up in a deal.

My other Rbs are Lynch, Sproles, Martin, Rainey, Kniles Davis.


Would you make the deak?

do you start? Who are your WR's? My initial thought is hell yes.

*Deal

KMED -

Start 2 RBs, 2 WRs and a Flex

Other WRs are Edleman, Fitz, Cooks, DJax, Decker

he changed his mind.

Sorry Kmed....2 RBs, 3 WRs and a Flex

as fast as possible.

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You start 2 RB's, 3 WR's and Flex. You have 4 RB's that you can comfortably start with a clear cut RB1. You have upside at RB as well.

You are pretty weak at WR and you will most likely be outmatched at WR2 and WR3 on a weekly basis.

You have the opportunity to upgrade the player as well as trade from strength for a weakness.

Do it.

Thanks everyone...just accepted it.

or Shane Vereen vs Oak

or Woodhead @ Buf?

FU AP!

In comment 11869841 pjcas18 said:

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or Shane Vereen vs Oak

PPR -> Vereen
Standard -> Pierce

In comment 11869846 GIANTSr01 said:

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In comment 11869841 pjcas18 said: Quote: or Shane Vereen vs Oak PPR -> Vereen Standard -> Pierce

PPR, but I'm concerned with Vereen's shoulder injury

In comment 11869844 GIANTSr01 said:

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or Woodhead @ Buf? FU AP!

Woodhead if ppr, probably either way. Donald Brown isn't getting all the carries.

see if they think he'll be limited.

Pierce got 23 touches last week and should see similar action this week so even in PPR he's a decent play.

In comment 11869849 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 11869844 GIANTSr01 said: Quote: or Woodhead @ Buf? FU AP! Woodhead if ppr, probably either way. Donald Brown isn't getting all the carries.

Sorry, should've specified non-PPR. I'm worried Woodhead won't get more than 10-12 touches even with Matthews out.

for my flex positoin. No ppr league. Thanks...

in a non PPR league. He has a grand total of 13 rushes this season.

PPR, straight up

currently have Matt Forte, Doug Martin, D'angelo williams, Bobby Rainey, and Khiry Robinson

thoughts?

Start Bush over Rainey. LOL

I wouldn't do that trade

In comment 11870469 Jints in Carolina said:

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Start Bush over Rainey. LOL

If you predicted a blowout as the reason, then fine. Otherwise this is a total anomaly. Glennon won't even check down to him and he's wide open. Everything about this game is backwards.

I am playing around. Sheesh.

I think Doug Martin is going to get another shot.

In comment 11870481 kmed said:

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I think Doug Martin is going to get another shot.

of course he is, he's injured isn't he? Martin blows Rainey and James away if he's healthy. Was Martin sitting for a fumble?

People believe that Rainey has won the job and Martin has been benched.

In comment 11870486 kmed said:

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People believe that Rainey has won the job and Martin has been benched.

wow, I didn't realize that. I'd been trying to acquire Martin for cheap while he's injured and the guy rejected Keenan Allen for Doug Martin, I thought that was fair. Glad he rejected it. I have a surplus of WR's and Adrian peterson and Ben tate are killing me (tate less but I was counting on him).

well that's that.

In comment 11870495 UConn4523 said:

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well that's that.

Mike James time?

Doug Martin has sucked, under 3 yards per carry the last 2 seasons. That was Rainey's job, easy matchup against the Falcons who can't stop the run, he solidifies it tonight. Then, nightmare. I can't beat myself up over starting Rainey, it had 125 total yards, 5 receptions 2 tds written all over it.

I can however kick myself for sitting Devin Hester with Roddy White out. Welker better do something against Seattle!

In comment 11870534 Rocky Thompson said:

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Doug Martin has sucked, under 3 yards per carry the last 2 seasons. That was Rainey's job, easy matchup against the Falcons who can't stop the run, he solidifies it tonight. Then, nightmare. I can't beat myself up over starting Rainey, it had 125 total yards, 5 receptions 2 tds written all over it. I can however kick myself for sitting Devin Hester with Roddy White out. Welker better do something against Seattle!

Doug Martin was a rookie in 2012 and averaged 4.6 ypc with 11 TD's, he was injured in his 2nd season running behind a terrible, 2004-Giants-like OL and averaged 3.6 ypc after 127 attempts.

he also caught 50 passes as a rookie.

Are you sure you're thinking of the same Doug Martin?

Rumor in Tampa is that Martin could have played the last 2 weeks but Lovie is riding the hot hand. Rainey has been that hot hand. He might actually salvage something in garbage time here. No way do you trade Keenan Allen for Doug Martin. The RB situation is up in the air right now after tonight but at best for Martin owners it will be a RBBC. Rainey > Martin in PPR.

Or you just made that up? You're special.

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Got me 10, I'll certainly take it. Mike James blows so I doubt he gets touches outside of an injury.

of my leagues.

In PPR, DeAndre Hopkins or Andrew Hawkins at Flex? Hopkins has been scoring TDs, but Hawkins has 22 targets after 2 games.

1. Traded Knile Davis for Mark Ingram. My team is pretty solid except for my RB2. I figured this was a chance at a good RB for when Ingram comes back. He looked great before he broke his hand. Also there were some saying that Charles isn't going to be out that long so wanted to trade KD while he had value.

2. Traded Asiata and Hopkins for Gehrhart. The one is questionable but here's my thinking. Gerhart is the guy for the Jags and I think underrated. Off to a terrible start. But is he worse than Asiata? Probably not. It actually sounds like Min is going RBBC I'll take Gerharts upside. Next, Hopkins. I just think he's overrated and I'm not going to start him, ever. I'm going to go pick up Davante Adams who has more upside than Hopkins.

Thoughts on the 2 deals? Was I a moron in the 2nd trade?

no idea what your team looks like but Gerhart looks like a backup RB.

In comment 11870669 kmed said:

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of my leagues.

He exemplifies what the word "putz" means.

I do have White in one of my leagues, but I'm so deep at WR that it really didn't matter.

In comment 11870683 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:

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In PPR, DeAndre Hopkins or Andrew Hawkins at Flex? Hopkins has been scoring TDs, but Hawkins has 22 targets after 2 games.

If it's my team, I'm starting Hawkins.

now that aj green has practiced and may play. I start 3 wide receivers and i have a flex spot.

i have:

AJ Green
Randall Cobb
Kendall Wright
Andrew Hawkins
Mohammed Sanu
Cecil Shorts
Carlos Hyde


I also have Jordan Cameron and Travis Kelce at tight end.


If Green plays you have to start him right? and then put hawkins at the flex and sit sanu shorts and hyde?

unless he's just not playing.