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GOODELL TO HOLD NEWS CONFERENCE AT 3PM TODAY

Canton : 9/19/2014 11:11 am
Eastern time, fellas. Set your DVR's.
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GP : 9/19/2014 11:12 am : link
Fluff, unnecessary stricter regulations to shut people up, or resignation? I'll go with fluff.
For?  
Vin R : 9/19/2014 11:13 am : link
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REALLY???  
montanagiant : 9/19/2014 11:13 am : link
WHY???
huge moment in Goodell's career  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/19/2014 11:15 am : link
for that alone it'll be interesting.
WGAF  
SoDev : 9/19/2014 11:20 am : link
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maybe he'll pull a Budd Dwyer  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2014 11:23 am : link
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RE: maybe he'll pull a Budd Dwyer  
Jim in Scranton : 9/19/2014 11:23 am : link
In comment 11870961 Greg from LI said:
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lol
WHY DO YOU THINK HE'S HOLDING  
pjcas18 : 9/19/2014 11:24 am : link
A NEWS CONFERENCE AT 3PM TODAY?
Maybe it's to officially announce this  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/19/2014 11:25 am : link
Or maybe he's done so already?
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BE  
AcidTest : 9/19/2014 11:33 am : link
SURE TO SHOUT IT TO THE WORLD.
RE: maybe he'll pull a Budd Dwyer  
sjnyfan : 9/19/2014 11:33 am : link
In comment 11870961 Greg from LI said:
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We already know he'll do anything for ratings. It'll be his curtain call.
7 on 7  
Sec 103 : 9/19/2014 11:33 am : link
Flag football announcement.
No need for pads, helmets or tackling...
May help our "D"...
He is  
mrvax : 9/19/2014 11:34 am : link
going to resign.
RE: RE: maybe he'll pull a Budd Dwyer  
BMac : 9/19/2014 11:37 am : link
In comment 11870963 Jim in Scranton said:
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lol


I don't know. I heard his wife told him not to go shooting his mouth off today.
Art Stapleton  
Canton : 9/19/2014 11:37 am : link
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@art_stapleton: NFL announces Roger Goodell news conference in NYC today at 3 p.m. taking questions re: domestic violence issues + personal conduct policy.



Nothing to see here. He just wants to hear himself talk.
Ebenezer Samuel  
Canton : 9/19/2014 11:40 am : link
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@ebenezersamuel: Know this about Goodell: He's been huddled with his press ppl, going over scenarios. Expect many well-crafted lines, not much real truth
Roger Goodell  
Duke : 9/19/2014 11:50 am : link
Ruining the NFL since 2006.
Anyone expecting anything of substance at this point is kidding  
jcn56 : 9/19/2014 11:50 am : link
themselves. And I'm not suggesting he has to provide that, either, but these meaningless corporate PR events aren't worth tuning in to.

Although, I'd love for him to take the podium, say 'I'm the fucking commissioner of the NFL, I can do whatever the fuck I want and nobody can do jack shit about it', then kick the head of the NFLPA in the nuts and walk off stage (basically, a theatrical version of the last CBA negotiation).
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Pork and Beans : 9/19/2014 11:53 am : link
His biggest mistake was getting into the punishment business for off field incidents in the first place. Should have just said punishment is the department of the legal system, if you don't like the punishments for these crimes talk to your congressman.
RE: Anyone expecting anything of substance at this point is kidding  
vibe4giants : 9/19/2014 11:57 am : link
In comment 11871026 jcn56 said:
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themselves. And I'm not suggesting he has to provide that, either, but these meaningless corporate PR events aren't worth tuning in to.

Although, I'd love for him to take the podium, say 'I'm the fucking commissioner of the NFL, I can do whatever the fuck I want and nobody can do jack shit about it', then kick the head of the NFLPA in the nuts and walk off stage (basically, a theatrical version of the last CBA negotiation).


If he's taking questions, it'll be more than a meaningless corporate event. They've had him squirreled away all week working on his answers. I actually think it could be really interesting. He can't afford to fuck up again.
RE: RE: Anyone expecting anything of substance at this point is kidding  
jcn56 : 9/19/2014 11:59 am : link
In comment 11871046 vibe4giants said:
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themselves. And I'm not suggesting he has to provide that, either, but these meaningless corporate PR events aren't worth tuning in to.

Although, I'd love for him to take the podium, say 'I'm the fucking commissioner of the NFL, I can do whatever the fuck I want and nobody can do jack shit about it', then kick the head of the NFLPA in the nuts and walk off stage (basically, a theatrical version of the last CBA negotiation).



If he's taking questions, it'll be more than a meaningless corporate event. They've had him squirreled away all week working on his answers. I actually think it could be really interesting. He can't afford to fuck up again.


This is just my guess, and I can be as wrong as anyone, but my guess is that the questions he fields will all be softballs lobbed at him from friendly channels. Would be interesting to see him grilled for a bit, but I highly doubt it.
so what happens when one of these guys getting punished before being  
Duke : 9/19/2014 12:04 pm : link
convicted and we find out the wife/gf made it up and the guys is innocent? what about due process?
There's too much heat now.  
vibe4giants : 9/19/2014 12:08 pm : link
He actually got some good questions in the CBS interview and didn't answer them well. There's too much attention now. There's blood in the water, people are paying attention. There's no incentive for the Media not ask good questions nor for him to not answer tough ones. There's no more room under the carpet to sweep anything. If he can't regain some measure of credibility, his job may actually be in jeopardy. This could be a defining moment. And no less so if he dodges or otherwise doesn't come off well.
Duke, you are right, life is unfair sometimes.  
manh george : 9/19/2014 12:14 pm : link
However, none of the unconvicted ones are losing any salary.

Sorta like putting a cop on desk duty while a shooting incident is investigated.

And the other option is to expect that a wife/girlfriend would risk her husband/boyfriend's career and all of the money involved, and assume she might be lying and take the risk that she gets the crap kicked out of her.

More than half of major violence in domestic abuse cases occur AFTER a breakup or report to the police.
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PeterS : 9/19/2014 12:35 pm : link
In comment 11871034 Pork and Beans said:
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His biggest mistake was getting into the punishment business for off field incidents in the first place. Should have just said punishment is the department of the legal system, if you don't like the punishments for these crimes talk to your congressman.


Exactly but more specifically your state legislature, no?
RE: so what happens when one of these guys getting punished before being  
mrvax : 9/19/2014 12:45 pm : link
In comment 11871060 Duke said:
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convicted and we find out the wife/gf made it up and the guys is innocent? what about due process?


I'd imagine they'd recoup any lost pay.
HE'S A GAY AMERICAN?  
WideRight : 9/19/2014 12:55 pm : link
HE INCREASED RAY RICE'S SUSPENSION FROM INDEFINITE TO FOREVER?

HE'S BOMBING ISIS?

HE WANTS A RAISE?

HE BEAT HIS WIFE?
RE: so what happens when one of these guys getting punished before being  
GIANTSr01 : 9/19/2014 1:03 pm : link
In comment 11871060 Duke said:
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convicted and we find out the wife/gf made it up and the guys is innocent? what about due process?


They're suspended WITH pay, except for Ray Rice who's been proven guilty via video evidence.
Nothing to see here  
dcgiantsfan : 9/19/2014 1:11 pm : link
Anything short of "I messed up big time for not acting sooner with respect to Rice's discilpine and more importantly the problem we've had with domestic violence..." will be spin control. The fact of the matter is that there have been numerous domestic violence situations with players, and it wasn't until that violence was shown to the world that the NFL felt the need to act. For years they've paraded the pink throughout the stadiums for breast cancer month, but turned a blind eye to domestic abuse.

So as someone stated, had he not started dealing with the off the field issues, they wouldn't be under the microscope so much.
Ray Rice hasn't been "proven" guilty of anything  
HomerJones45 : 9/19/2014 1:19 pm : link
and his now wife, the victim, has stated that all the attention is unwanted and unhelpful.

Perhaps Goodell will commit seppuku to atone for the ham-fisted way in which the cartel has gone about all this.
RE: Ray Rice hasn't been  
okiegiant : 9/19/2014 1:33 pm : link
In comment 11871176 HomerJones45 said:
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and his now wife, the victim, has stated that all the attention is unwanted and unhelpful.

Perhaps Goodell will commit seppuku to atone for the ham-fisted way in which the cartel has gone about all this.


If they didn't want this attention maybe they shouldn't have done an Ali/Liston rematch in a public elevator.
OKAY  
jeff57 : 9/19/2014 1:37 pm : link
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RE: Ray Rice hasn't been  
GIANTSr01 : 9/19/2014 1:38 pm : link
In comment 11871176 HomerJones45 said:
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and his now wife, the victim, has stated that all the attention is unwanted and unhelpful.

Perhaps Goodell will commit seppuku to atone for the ham-fisted way in which the cartel has gone about all this.


He hasn't been "convicted" of anything, but I'm pretty sure the video of him lighting up his GF/wife and his subsequent confession is "proof" of abuse.
Or,  
batman11 : 9/19/2014 1:41 pm : link
to publicly announce this:
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3 pm Friday - just perfect  
mfsd : 9/19/2014 2:17 pm : link
let's pick the day and time of the week when the fewest possible people are paying attention to the news
Is court the only place  
Pork and Beans : 9/19/2014 2:21 pm : link
anything can be proven for some people? You saw video, and he admitted everything. Do you have a brain? Ok, then you can see there is proof.
RE: Or,  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/19/2014 2:23 pm : link
In comment 11871218 batman11 said:
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to publicly announce this: Link - ( New Window )


I hope he finds his binder on "Women"
Does he double down on his bullshit  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 9/19/2014 2:51 pm : link
or come clean? I'll bet on the former.
Already talking about "pushing the message going forward"  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 9/19/2014 3:02 pm : link
and not what happened in the initial investigation. I hope they grill the shit out of him.
You know this is huge when they interrupt your local broadcast channel  
Canton : 9/19/2014 3:16 pm : link
Bump. It's on.
"Now I will get it right"  
Knineteen : 9/19/2014 3:18 pm : link
I'm guessing that means he's not stepping down?

Press conference over.
People want to know if their Commissioner is a crook  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2014 3:19 pm : link
Well, I'm not a crook!

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Canton : 9/19/2014 3:19 pm : link
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@RapSheet: Roger Goodell: “I got it wrong in the handling of Ray Rice matter and I’m sorry for that. From the process I led to the decision I reached”
It's a good thing that NFL players beat their  
Knineteen : 9/19/2014 3:19 pm : link
wives and girlfriends...because now the NFL can be seen as the guiding light to end all domestic violence worldwide.

Commence vomiting.
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Canton : 9/19/2014 3:20 pm : link
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@NYDailyNews: "We will get our house in order first," Roger Goodell says. http://nydn.us/Zux8Eb
Its a good thing that all league employees  
Deej : 9/19/2014 3:21 pm : link
will have to sit thru training because the Commish didnt know that domestic violence was a bigger deal than smoking a j.

Distributing information about help numbers to the teams. What a fucking joke.
"The night is darkest before the dawn.. and the dawn is coming."  
Vin R : 9/19/2014 3:21 pm : link
-Goodell
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Canton : 9/19/2014 3:22 pm : link
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@RapSheet: Roger Goodell mentions domestic violence and says “including child abuse.” Insinuates Adrian Peterson is under that umbrella
someone needs to photoshop Goodell with a rainbow wig  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2014 3:23 pm : link
and a big red nose, because this guy is a straight-up clown.
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Canton : 9/19/2014 3:23 pm : link
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@JasonLaCanfora: Goodell says NFL will work with NFLPA to help implement new training programs aimed at fighting domestic violence
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Canton : 9/19/2014 3:25 pm : link
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@RapSheet: Roger Goodell says he’ll meet with DeMaurice Smith next week with experts to help establish standards fans deserve. “All current polices”
This is stupid  
Knineteen : 9/19/2014 3:26 pm : link
Yes, Roger, I'm concerned about Gus in Accounting beating his wife. Please make sure he gets the proper training.
What a stuffy greaseball  
rdt288 : 9/19/2014 3:27 pm : link
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So insincere
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Canton : 9/19/2014 3:27 pm : link
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@BobGlauber: Goodell: "There will be changes to our personal conduct policy. Nothing is off the table." Hopes to complete process by the Super Bowl.


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@ProFootballTalk: Goodell says experts hired by the NFL will explore his role in the personal-conduct policy process. Sounds like he's giving up some power.


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@ProFootballTalk: Goodell says experts hired by the NFL will explore his role in the personal-conduct policy process. Sounds like he's giving up some power.
Experts?  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2014 3:28 pm : link
Hah, oh I can just imagine who they'll be hiring.
What a clown.  
drkenneth : 9/19/2014 3:29 pm : link
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This is some epic bullshit  
Adam XLII : 9/19/2014 3:29 pm : link
I'm embarrassed to be a fan at the moment.
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Canton : 9/19/2014 3:31 pm : link
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@RapSheet: Goodell on if he’s willing to give up some power: “Everything is on the table. We’re going to make sure we look at every aspect.”


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@JasonLaCanfora: Goodell says "everything is on the table" in terms of surrendering power on personal-conduct. "We can't continue to operate like this."


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On Peterson.  
Canton : 9/19/2014 3:32 pm : link
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@ebenezersamuel: Roger Goodell insists they "asked for it" (Ray Rice tape) on several occasions. But he doesn't provide tangible paper trail.


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Canton : 9/19/2014 3:33 pm : link
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@RapSheet: Goodell said of the Adrian Peterson situation, “What we see so far is tragic.” Then adds will let the facts play out.
Goodell on his own punishment  
Canton : 9/19/2014 3:34 pm : link
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@ProFootballTalk: Goodell says "Everything on the table" in terms of his role in punishment http://wp.me/p14QSB-9zOz


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@ebenezersamuel: Goodell says he should continue as commish because "I acknowledged my mistake..." But hold up hold up hold up. So did Peterson and Rice.
Defer, Deflect, Delay...  
HelmetCatch : 9/19/2014 3:34 pm : link
Textbook...
holding firm on the  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/19/2014 3:35 pm : link
"we didn't see the Ray Rice tape" lie. Complete fucking BS but I guess he has no choice but to stay with it.
Missed the PC, were there any hard-hitting questions  
jcn56 : 9/19/2014 3:35 pm : link
or just PR bullshit?
The conference was mostly fluff..  
BigBlue89 : 9/19/2014 3:36 pm : link
But the press are trying to get some substance out of him. Two already asked if he should resign.
What I'd give to hear Francesa's voice emerge asking a question,,,  
BurberryManning : 9/19/2014 3:37 pm : link
"Rawjar, yoah tellin me dat you nevuh asked the puhleaze for da video afder we all saw Mister Jay Zee get attacked by Bee-awn-say in an elevatah?"
Still saying he didn't see the elevator video  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 9/19/2014 3:38 pm : link
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The media is hysterical  
EricNY33 : 9/19/2014 3:38 pm : link
I love the sanctimonious media being shocked that Goodell hasn't considered resigning. Would you walk away from $40-$42 million a year?
to be fair  
GIANTSr01 : 9/19/2014 3:39 pm : link
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@ebenezersamuel: Goodell says he should continue as commish because "I acknowledged my mistake..." But hold up hold up hold up. So did Peterson and Rice.


Even assuming Goodell lied about the tape, comparing the Rice/AP mistakes to that of Goodell is like comparing MLB to tee ball.
RE: The media is hysterical  
GIANTSr01 : 9/19/2014 3:40 pm : link
In comment 11871446 EricNY33 said:
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I love the sanctimonious media being shocked that Goodell hasn't considered resigning. Would you walk away from $40-$42 million a year?


Not to mention the fact none of them cared about DV prior to the Rice video...
It's ridiculous  
EricNY33 : 9/19/2014 3:41 pm : link
What do you expect him to say? He's going to have to testify at any hearing that comes out of this. He's not going to say anything about that.

I don't think this press conference was a good idea. He got some bad advice, but seeing how the PR at the NFL has been lately I can't say I am surprised.
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Canton : 9/19/2014 3:42 pm : link
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@ebenezersamuel: I'm not sure Roger Goodell has to step down. Have not really thought about it at all. However, I'm not sure his justification makes sense.


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@BobGlauber: Goodell asked if he has considered resigning. "I have not. I’m focused on doing my job and doing it to the best of my ability."[quote]

[quote] @ebenezersamuel: Goodell asked about Ray Rice and how he thought it was portrayed. He does not answer the question. Dance around it. Wastes my time.


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@ebenezersamuel: A follow-up question..Commish, what did he say? And he sneaks through it by using the "I have to respect the appeal process."[quote]

[quote]@awfulannouncing: Roger Goodell is telling us to trust Roger Goodell because Roger Goodell is the only one who can fix this mess created by Roger Goodell.


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@ebenezersamuel: Is it me, or is Roger Goodell kinda-sorta lawyering the press? As usual...[quote]

[quote] @ProFootballTalk: Goodell's reluctance to talk about what Rice said in deference to the appeal process guarantees Goodell will be testifying at the hearing.


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@ebenezersamuel: Goodell says he 'does not know" where Robert Mueller is in investigating how the delivered Rice tape never made it to Goodell.[quote]

[quote]@RapSheet: Goodell on why just two games originally for Ray Rice: “We made a mistake in letting our standards fall where they should be.”
something doesn't seem right  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/19/2014 3:45 pm : link
While I have not been a fan of Roger Gooddell, I don't really understand the universal and societal scorn being directed at him and at the NFL here.

Listening to public criticism of Goodell and and hearing the questions in the presser, it's as if many think Roger Gooddell is responsible for these acts of domestic violence and sexual assault.

Adrian Peterson abused his kid because he chose to act that way. Ray Rice knocked out his fiance because he chose to do so. These incident have nothing to do with the NFL or with Roger Gooddell.

I applaud the NFL for wanting to to rid the league of people who act in this way, but it feels as if many think the NFL owes them.

The NFL didn't create these horrible people who play in their leagues. Their parents, their communities, and they themselves did.
he should run for office  
natefit : 9/19/2014 3:46 pm : link
hes already a pro at BS
Amazing what money we'll make you forget  
ghost718 : 9/19/2014 3:47 pm : link
Ray Ray left hook?

Where? Oh,that.That's not Ray Rice,that's Smokin Joe.
Francesa's moaning at certain questions  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/19/2014 3:47 pm : link
is fantastic. He doesn't think or care if people can hear him, but over the web feed, he's awesome.
Paul  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2014 3:48 pm : link
It's the hamfisted, finger-in-the-wind way he's flailed around for the proper response to this. He's pathetic.
Francesa just laughed over the web feed.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/19/2014 3:49 pm : link
And said "sorry for laughing. This is the Roger Goodell press conference, and the players are tweeting nasty things."
PaulBlake  
EricNY33 : 9/19/2014 3:49 pm : link
I agree sir. People want him to resign. That's why the media and everyone else is acting all appalled that he's not answering the questions the way they want him to. Nothing short of him saying "I have looked over my performance as commissioner the past few months and I feel I have failed the players, owners, and fans of the NFL. Because of this... I am resigning from my position as Commissioner of the NFL" is going to suffice.

"There are so many questions they are not asking, folks"  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/19/2014 3:50 pm : link
Can I get transported there just for a second?"

-- Mike Francesa

He's gone full-blown color commentary.
RE: Francesa just laughed over the web feed.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/19/2014 3:50 pm : link
In comment 11871469 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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And said "sorry for laughing. This is the Roger Goodell press conference, and the players are tweeting nasty things."


Why would the players be tweeting nasty things? It's some of them who created this mess.
RE: something doesn't seem right  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 9/19/2014 3:50 pm : link
In comment 11871462 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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While I have not been a fan of Roger Gooddell, I don't really understand the universal and societal scorn being directed at him and at the NFL here.

Listening to public criticism of Goodell and and hearing the questions in the presser, it's as if many think Roger Gooddell is responsible for these acts of domestic violence and sexual assault.

Adrian Peterson abused his kid because he chose to act that way. Ray Rice knocked out his fiance because he chose to do so. These incident have nothing to do with the NFL or with Roger Gooddell.

I applaud the NFL for wanting to to rid the league of people who act in this way, but it feels as if many think the NFL owes them.

The NFL didn't create these horrible people who play in their leagues. Their parents, their communities, and they themselves did.


The NFL had no interest in ridding their league of these people until the recent media coverage. That's driving the call for Roger's head: do we have to hope that he/NFL gets caught with his pants down again before wrongs are righted going into the future.
Took 50 minutes  
Knineteen : 9/19/2014 3:51 pm : link
but the press conference finally got interesting.
Violence breaks out at press conference  
Deej : 9/19/2014 3:51 pm : link
wtf was that?>
that crazy guy was clearly a Roger Goodell plant  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 9/19/2014 3:51 pm : link
lol
Did someone ask Goodell how he plans to stop DV in the world?  
Mason : 9/19/2014 3:51 pm : link
He's the commissioner for goodness sake, what the hell has been doing all this time? Just sitting on his ass. He needs to throw some more money at NOW because research and administration fees are the only way to end the problem.
What the fuck was that???  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/19/2014 3:51 pm : link
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BENJI!  
drkenneth : 9/19/2014 3:52 pm : link
From Howard Stern!!!
RE: Violence breaks out at press conference  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/19/2014 3:52 pm : link
In comment 11871478 Deej said:
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wtf was that?>


That was Benjy from the Stern show.
"DONT PUT ME IN THE ELEVATOR!!!"  
drkenneth : 9/19/2014 3:52 pm : link
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Benjy from the Stern show  
vibe4giants : 9/19/2014 3:52 pm : link
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RE: Violence breaks out at press conference  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/19/2014 3:52 pm : link
In comment 11871478 Deej said:
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wtf was that?>


that was stupid Benjy from the Stern show.
Finally a hardball question  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 9/19/2014 3:53 pm : link
Thanks Rachel.
RE: Benjy from the Stern show  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/19/2014 3:53 pm : link
In comment 11871486 vibe4giants said:
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Haha it definitely sounded like him... was that actually him??
What happened  
Exit 172 : 9/19/2014 3:53 pm : link
?
And that  
EricNY33 : 9/19/2014 3:53 pm : link
has accomplished what, exactly?

Wanna change the culture?  
natefit : 9/19/2014 3:53 pm : link
How about an automatic one yr ban on any player proven to be involved in a domestic violence/ child abuse incident. Period.
Mike just clapped  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/19/2014 3:54 pm : link
at that question and laughed at the response.
LOL  
Canton : 9/19/2014 3:55 pm : link
[quote]@ebenezersamuel: I do not watch the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. I'm gonna DVR it Monday.[quote]
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Canton : 9/19/2014 3:56 pm : link
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@ChrisMannixSI: Roger Goodell's unwillingness to address AP report that cited an NFL employee acknowledging receipt of the tape is incredible weak.
Goodell is an empty suit  
Deej : 9/19/2014 3:57 pm : link
pure vanilla company man. Is anyone watching this and feeling better about Goodell or the NFL.

Kudos to TMZ for calling bullshit there. Their reporter wants to know how the NFL couldnt get the tape is TMZ got it with one phone call.
Goodell is doing a horrible job here.  
vibe4giants : 9/19/2014 3:58 pm : link
He could have turned the fire down. Believe he's turned it up.

I have never been a Goodell hater, seeing him as just the hand/face of the owners. Now I see him . He should go.
You waited that long to ask a stupid question?  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 9/19/2014 3:59 pm : link
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Canton : 9/19/2014 3:59 pm : link
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@RapSheet: Goodell says Ray and Janay Rice should not have been in the same room when he interviewed them about the domestic violence incident.
If some of you guys expected  
EricNY33 : 9/19/2014 3:59 pm : link
anything more than what you're getting from this press conference then you deserve this.
It'll be interesting to see...  
BMac : 9/19/2014 3:59 pm : link
...if any of the "experts" they hire are women. Bet dollars to doughnuts that they're a bunch of old white guys (with Jameis Winston thrown in for a little color - like blue).
Someone need to hammer him with a Redskins question now  
Deej : 9/19/2014 3:59 pm : link
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She waited that long for that question?  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/19/2014 4:00 pm : link
*facepalm*
And not one mention of  
Deej : 9/19/2014 4:01 pm : link
the violence inflicted by the Falcons last night against a helpless Bucs squad.
RE: It'll be interesting to see...  
GIANTSr01 : 9/19/2014 4:01 pm : link
In comment 11871511 BMac said:
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...if any of the "experts" they hire are women. Bet dollars to doughnuts that they're a bunch of old white guys (with Jameis Winston thrown in for a little color - like blue).


They've already hired several women to lead a review of the personal conduct policy and I think head a new department.
RE: She waited that long for that question?  
Lord Zedd : 9/19/2014 4:02 pm : link
In comment 11871516 Dave in Hoboken said:
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*facepalm*


LOL. Agreed.
RE: And not one mention of  
EricNY33 : 9/19/2014 4:03 pm : link
In comment 11871518 Deej said:
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the violence inflicted by the Falcons last night against a helpless Bucs squad.


Deej wins! LOL!
RE: If some of you guys expected  
Deej : 9/19/2014 4:03 pm : link
In comment 11871509 EricNY33 said:
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anything more than what you're getting from this press conference then you deserve this.


Disagree. Look back at the NBA commish's Clippers press conference. Squarely addressed the problem, took decisive and real action, and engaged the media rather than spinning out answers.
Rachel  
sshin05 : 9/19/2014 4:03 pm : link
is the only one with balls in that press conference. Peter king is such a tool.
I only heard the commotion.  
Randy in CT : 9/19/2014 4:04 pm : link
That sounded like Benji Bronk.
Still not sure what Goodall might possibly resign for  
Bill L : 9/19/2014 4:06 pm : link
Reporters are insane.
Sorry  
Bill L : 9/19/2014 4:07 pm : link
Sports writers
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arcarsenal : 9/19/2014 4:07 pm : link
Mike laughing at one of his BS answers was the highlight of the presser for me. Goodell fucking sucks. He sounded like the huge pussy he is who has been totally exposed.
He got asked enough of the right questions.  
vibe4giants : 9/19/2014 4:08 pm : link
'Sean Peyton." 'Ambiguous.' "Do you have the support of the owners?' 'Why shouldn't you resign?' "Why didn't you see the video?' 'Did you talk to any women about the original decision?' 'Is Muller truly independent?'


He mostly spun and dodged. He looked weak.

I tuned into to see if he'd pull out of the nosedive or increase his speed. I saw the latter.
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EricNY33 : 9/19/2014 4:08 pm : link
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anything more than what you're getting from this press conference then you deserve this.



Disagree. Look back at the NBA commish's Clippers press conference. Squarely addressed the problem, took decisive and real action, and engaged the media rather than spinning out answers.


Big difference is that when Adam Silver spoke he did so initially and wasn't backtracking trying to fix his screw ups. Goodell has screwed this up from the beginning so his point of view going into this was completely different than Silver's.
Pete King has the sweetest gig in the country  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/19/2014 4:09 pm : link
Paid a ton of money to occasionally write articles and tour training camps while sipping lattes.

All while being billed as the foremost NFL columnist in the country.
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EricNY33 : 9/19/2014 4:10 pm : link
In comment 11871535 arcarsenal said:
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Mike laughing at one of his BS answers was the highlight of the presser for me. Goodell fucking sucks. He sounded like the huge pussy he is who has been totally exposed.


He sounded like a lawyer... which is probably why people hate lawyers lol
RE: Goodell is an empty suit  
Victor in CT : 9/19/2014 4:10 pm : link
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pure vanilla company man. Is anyone watching this and feeling better about Goodell or the NFL.

Kudos to TMZ for calling bullshit there. Their reporter wants to know how the NFL couldnt get the tape is TMZ got it with one phone call.


CORRECTAMUNDO! who needs a panel of "experts" to be told that this stuff is wrong and players need to be held accountable? He's just a phony dooshbag.
Again, for what reason should he resign?  
Bill L : 9/19/2014 4:10 pm : link
Those are ridiculous questions IMO. He should have asked the questioner if they were planning on resigning
The only thing missing was  
BigBlue in Keys : 9/19/2014 4:10 pm : link
The guys from Delta house all coughing and saying blowjob, blowjob under their breath.
Fox Sports is really pumping Goodell up  
B in ALB : 9/19/2014 4:13 pm : link
for his performance today. They're all saying he did great, nothing wrong with any of the press conference, and he came off great. The game is fine.
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arcarsenal : 9/19/2014 4:13 pm : link
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Mike laughing at one of his BS answers was the highlight of the presser for me. Goodell fucking sucks. He sounded like the huge pussy he is who has been totally exposed.



He sounded like a lawyer... which is probably why people hate lawyers lol


A really bad one.

A lot of pausing and sounding very unsure of himself. Company line BS that he had to keep resorting to because he had no real answers for a lot of the questions, which, to me were pretty good. I thought they really put him to the fire with some of those and didn't give him much room to squirm away from (even though he found a non-answer for most of them anyway)
RE: RE: Goodell is an empty suit  
EricNY33 : 9/19/2014 4:13 pm : link
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pure vanilla company man. Is anyone watching this and feeling better about Goodell or the NFL.

Kudos to TMZ for calling bullshit there. Their reporter wants to know how the NFL couldnt get the tape is TMZ got it with one phone call.



CORRECTAMUNDO! who needs a panel of "experts" to be told that this stuff is wrong and players need to be held accountable? He's just a phony dooshbag.


You bring in experts when you want to decipher what the CORRECT punishment is and how you get to that decision. That's why the panel is being brought in... not to decide if they need punishment at all.
RE: Pete King has the sweetest gig in the country  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2014 4:14 pm : link
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Paid a ton of money to occasionally write articles and tour training camps while sipping lattes.

All while being billed as the foremost NFL columnist in the country.


Good comment. Lofty comment. The Kit Kats had better not be melted!
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EricNY33 : 9/19/2014 4:16 pm : link
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Mike laughing at one of his BS answers was the highlight of the presser for me. Goodell fucking sucks. He sounded like the huge pussy he is who has been totally exposed.



He sounded like a lawyer... which is probably why people hate lawyers lol



A really bad one.

A lot of pausing and sounding very unsure of himself. Company line BS that he had to keep resorting to because he had no real answers for a lot of the questions, which, to me were pretty good. I thought they really put him to the fire with some of those and didn't give him much room to squirm away from (even though he found a non-answer for most of them anyway)


Actually a good lawyer does what he just did. Say a lot without saying anything.
I'm going to get it right this time!  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2014 4:17 pm : link
RE: Pete King has the sweetest gig in the country  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/19/2014 4:21 pm : link
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Paid a ton of money to occasionally write articles and tour training camps while sipping lattes.

All while being billed as the foremost NFL columnist in the country.


Francesa just said Peter King's second question was a softball.
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arcarsenal : 9/19/2014 4:22 pm : link
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Mike laughing at one of his BS answers was the highlight of the presser for me. Goodell fucking sucks. He sounded like the huge pussy he is who has been totally exposed.



He sounded like a lawyer... which is probably why people hate lawyers lol



A really bad one.

A lot of pausing and sounding very unsure of himself. Company line BS that he had to keep resorting to because he had no real answers for a lot of the questions, which, to me were pretty good. I thought they really put him to the fire with some of those and didn't give him much room to squirm away from (even though he found a non-answer for most of them anyway)



Actually a good lawyer does what he just did. Say a lot without saying anything.


Meh, good lawyers are confident and reflect it in how they speak. Goodell was tripping over his own words often. Had to keep pausing to gather his thoughts and find escape routes. I thought he sounded a lot like a guy who knew he fucked up.
RE: I'm going to get it right this time!  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/19/2014 4:22 pm : link
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Thanks! I was hoping for an image with Goodell and Baghdad Bob.
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Victor in CT : 9/19/2014 4:23 pm : link
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pure vanilla company man. Is anyone watching this and feeling better about Goodell or the NFL.

Kudos to TMZ for calling bullshit there. Their reporter wants to know how the NFL couldnt get the tape is TMZ got it with one phone call.



CORRECTAMUNDO! who needs a panel of "experts" to be told that this stuff is wrong and players need to be held accountable? He's just a phony dooshbag.



You bring in experts when you want to decipher what the CORRECT punishment is and how you get to that decision. That's why the panel is being brought in... not to decide if they need punishment at all.


no, this is what a $44 million/year empty suit does when he gets caught with hi pants down. Hide behind a blue-ribbon panel.
The question I wanted to hear and never did:  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/19/2014 4:25 pm : link
"Mr. Goodell, even if we somehow get passed the way the full video never made it to your office, how can you possibly say you received 'new information' when there was a publicly available police report starting Rice struck his fiance, causing her to lose consciousness, followed by a video of her being dragged out of an elevator?"
I wanted someone to ask  
BigBlueShock : 9/19/2014 4:30 pm : link
because he kept saying that the info Ray Rice gave him was not consistent with the info they later received is the reason he changed the penalty. I kept waiting for some to ask "are you saying that Ray Rice lied to you?" Everybody else keeps saying the Rice was completely honest with Goodell, so whys he keep saying otherwise? Be a man and come out and say it if you think Rice lied
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vibe4giants : 9/19/2014 4:33 pm : link
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because he kept saying that the info Ray Rice gave him was not consistent with the info they later received is the reason he changed the penalty. I kept waiting for some to ask "are you saying that Ray Rice lied to you?" Everybody else keeps saying the Rice was completely honest with Goodell, so whys he keep saying otherwise? Be a man and come out and say it if you think Rice lied


Someone did ask. He said he couldn't add much to his answer because it's under appeal. And that we'll all hear when the report comes out.
Once the ratings came out  
natefit : 9/19/2014 4:35 pm : link
and the league knew it was unaffected $ wise, they knew they didnt have to do much. Goodell halfwayed it and meanwhile the gravy train keeps on rolling...
I like to think I'm a good lawyer  
Deej : 9/19/2014 4:40 pm : link
and good lawyers dont say a lot without saying anything. They try to say something important that will convince the listener of something of have an effect on the listener (even if it is a losing cause, you can still set yourself up for a better result down the road).

Lawyers who get up and deliver no content get nothing accomplished. Picture a judge -- one guy answers the questions, and the other guy evades. Who you gonna side with?
vibe  
BigBlueShock : 9/19/2014 4:42 pm : link
really? Thanks, I must have missed that somehow. I heard him use the "appeal" excuse with every question, but it missed the question about if he was calling him a liar
The prototypical lawyer is a slick, smooth talker who can appear to  
vibe4giants : 9/19/2014 4:42 pm : link
have a strong hand, even when he's holding junk.

Goodell is none of those things.
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vibe4giants : 9/19/2014 4:46 pm : link
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really? Thanks, I must have missed that somehow. I heard him use the "appeal" excuse with every question, but it missed the question about if he was calling him a liar


He was asked what Rice said that was 'ambiguous' in the wake of his (Goodell's) seeing the second video. You could almost see the relief on his face. I have a good excuse for this one.
This is what you get for 40 Million a year.  
GiantsUA : 9/19/2014 4:53 pm : link
. How about this question - regarding the delivery of the tape - is someone in your office being dishonest, or is your office disfunctional and the tape was misplaced?
RE: RE: The media is hysterical  
T-Bone : 9/19/2014 5:09 pm : link
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I love the sanctimonious media being shocked that Goodell hasn't considered resigning. Would you walk away from $40-$42 million a year?



Not to mention the fact none of them cared about DV prior to the Rice video...


Exactly! And it's not just the media but EVERYONE (even every one on this thread and site). NO ONE gave a shit about it when Larry Johnson, James Harrison and Terrell Suggs were charged with DV. Now everyone is sitting here like 'OH MY GOD! HOW YOU COULD YOU LET THIS HAPPEN FOR SO LONG ROGER?!'. Well... it happened for so long because up until that second Ray Rice video came out... none of you seemed to really give a fuck about it.

Funniest thing is to see the line at M&T Stadium today of Ravens fans trading in their Ray Rice jerseys... while wearing, and trading for, Terrell Suggs jerseys. LOL!
What I can't comprehend is the way in which  
RDJR : 9/19/2014 5:43 pm : link
people think they should have a say regarding the position of Commissioner of the NFL. It is a private organization with a very public face. However, it is not a government agency or a publicly held company. The CEO is hired by the owners. If the public doesn't like what is happening, stop watching, stop buying, stop attending. Then and only then will it have an impact.

A lot of the discussion here is silly and meaningless. If you are a fan, you are a fan. Its not your organization to run. The media needs to cover the sport and the news surrounding it, however, who are they to question somebody's employment in a private organization?

The mentality of Americans to "fire" somebody or to have somebody's head on a platter has become a real and sad commentary on the state of our society. Everybody wants to blame somebody. Domestic violence and child abuse deserve our attention, not who knew what or who should be fired.
Sponsors by the score were threatening to abandon the NFL because  
GeofromNJ : 9/19/2014 6:10 pm : link
it's never good to have your product associated with an unsavory product like the NFL. Goodell for the last two days was talking to his legal staff to determine if he had any legal exposure, then talking to sponsors, telling them not to worry, Goodell was going to transform the NFL's image from unsavory into the epitome of rectitude, and lastly Goodell was on the phone with owners saying all will soon be well so please don't fire him and take away his $35 mil per year salary.
The three experts he brought in  
montanagiant : 9/19/2014 6:13 pm : link
Lisa Friel, a former prosecutor who headed the Manhattan district attorney’s sex crimes unit.

Jane Randel, a former Liz Claiborne executive who founded NO MORE, an organization whose goal is to combat domestic violence.

Rita Smith, the Denver-based former head of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence.
TBone  
BigBlueShock : 9/19/2014 6:20 pm : link
you're normally top notch, so I'm surprised by your take on this. Nobody gave a shit about domestic violence? Or was it just accepted? We've been down the road of hitting children. It was considered an acceptable practice in the past. But it's not anymore.

It's called progress. Progress is a good thing. Just because nobody stepped up in the past doesn't mean that they shouldn't step up now. And for a lot of people, I'm sure that DV never really hit home, if they weren't exposed to it, so when they seen the video, it probably shocked them. THIS is what DV looks like? Wow
And  
BigBlueShock : 9/19/2014 6:24 pm : link
people aren't calling for Goodells resignation because he "let it go on too long", lol. I haven't heard that one single time. They are calling for him to resign because he has not lived up to the standard that HE, himself has set for the conduct of the league. For Sean Peyton, he didn't want to hear about ignorance. But he's fine with it in his case.
So what?  
Bill L : 9/19/2014 6:38 pm : link
He failed. He's not accountable to us so what business is it for us to call for his resignation? Worse, what business it is of the media?
Let me get this straight  
BigBlueShock : 9/19/2014 7:06 pm : link
nobody should be discussing their opinions on matters that is "none of their business" on a message board? I guess you've never openly stated that you thought a particular manager for the Red Sox should be fired? Never had anything to say about, say, Bobby Valentine? Because, you know, it's really none of your business, you're just a lousy fan.

Yes. He screwed up. Some people feel he should step down. Some don't. It's strange that you don't think it should be discussed because Goodell doesn't answer to any of us
RE: So what?  
endwerc : 9/19/2014 7:07 pm : link
In comment 11871724 Bill L said:
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He failed. He's not accountable to us so what business is it for us to call for his resignation? Worse, what business it is of the media?


Since the league has an antitrust exemption, the manner in which it is run is very much in the interest of the people and the media.
The piece from OTL is pretty huge  
David in LA : 9/19/2014 7:33 pm : link
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Although the grainy video did not show what had happened behind the elevator's doors, the images horrified Ravens coach John Harbaugh, according to four sources inside and outside the organization. The Super Bowl-winning coach urged his bosses to release Rice immediately, especially if the team had evidence Rice had thrown a punch. That opinion was shared by George Kokinis, the Baltimore director of player personnel, according to a fifth source outside the organization but familiar with the team's thinking.


Whether you like John Harbaugh or not, he had the stones to ask that Rice get released immediately.
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RE: The three experts he brought in  
Mason : 9/19/2014 8:04 pm : link
In comment 11871698 montanagiant said:
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Lisa Friel, a former prosecutor who headed the Manhattan district attorney’s sex crimes unit.

Jane Randel, a former Liz Claiborne executive who founded NO MORE, an organization whose goal is to combat domestic violence.

Rita Smith, the Denver-based former head of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence.


Best line about this was about a young black woman gets beat up and a bunch old white ladies benefit from it. I never thought of that aspect of it. Much like other groups I wonder where some of this money goes. Something doesn't seem right about the whole thing.
RE: What I'd give to hear Francesa's voice emerge asking a question,,,  
Optimus-NY : 9/20/2014 6:26 am : link
In comment 11871444 BurberryManning said:
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"Rawjar, yoah tellin me dat you nevuh asked the puhleaze for da video afder we all saw Mister Jay Zee get attacked by Bee-awn-say in an elevatah?"



I stand corrected...  
BMac : 9/20/2014 7:38 am : link
...but still very sceptical.
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