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NFT: BBI Arborists: Those F@#%ing Acorns

Danny Kanell : 9/20/2014 10:43 am
Figured this is in the category of BBI & gt; Google. I have 2 huge oak trees on my property and some years, I get no acorns at all, some years a get a decent amount, and some years I get billions! Last fall was the most I've seen since I bought the house 8 years ago and it looks like this fall is going to be just as bad.

Is there a specific weather reason that causes the fluctuating from year to year? Cool summers maybe? That's the only thing I can put together from last year and this year. Is it totally random?

Just thought I'd see if we had some experts that had some thoughts on a quiet Saturday morning.

Thanks!
I've heard some people sat that  
S01NYG : 9/20/2014 10:45 am : link
lots of acorns means a cold, snowy winter.
*say  
S01NYG : 9/20/2014 10:45 am : link
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Great!  
Danny Kanell : 9/20/2014 10:46 am : link
Well that would be true for last year then.
Millering  
SLIM : 9/20/2014 11:28 am : link
Are leaves falling earlier this year than others?
I've got the same problem  
GmanND : 9/20/2014 11:34 am : link
though I have a few more oak trees then that. I've lived in the same house for 15+ years. In 2 or 3 of those years I've gotten so many acorns I rake them in piles and scoop them up with a grain shovel. I can fill huge trash cans with them except then they weigh to much to easily move around.

I know this sounds like a joke but it's not. It's kind of crazy.
Just moved in to my last house...  
okiegiant : 9/20/2014 11:35 am : link
and there is a huge oak tree right outside the front window...I've never seen so many acorns!

They are bouncing off the vehicles, they bounce off my head when I go out front, and they cover the walkway/paving stones even though I sweep them constantly.

Oh, and don't get me started on the freakin' squirrels!
This is what the internet answer machine says:  
Cam in MO : 9/20/2014 11:48 am : link
[quote}So what does trigger a mast year? Scientists have proposed a range of explanations—from environmental triggers to chemical signaling to pollen availability—but our understanding is hazy and the fact is that we simply don’t know yet.

Boom and bust cycles of acorn production do have an evolutionary benefit for oak trees through “predator satiation.” The idea goes like this: in a mast year, predators (chipmunks, squirrels, turkeys, blue jays, deer, bear, etc.) can’t eat all the acorns, leaving some nuts for growing into future oak trees. Years of lean acorn production keep predator populations low, so there are fewer animals to eat all the seeds in a mast year. Ultimately, a higher proportion of nuts overall escape the jaws of hungry animals.

Whatever the reasons and mechanisms behind acorn cycles, mast years do have ecological consequences for years to come. More acorns, for example, may mean more deer and mice. Unhappily, more deer and mice may mean more ticks and, possibly, more incidences of Lyme disease.

Many animals depend upon the highly-nutritious acorn for survival. Oak trees, meanwhile, depend upon boom and bust cycles, and a few uneaten acorns, for theirs.[/quote]


acorns! - ( New Window )
it has to do with  
fkap : 9/20/2014 11:51 am : link
the spring conditions, and effect on flowering/ pollinating conditions. summer growing conditions obviously will affect whether fruits/nuts flourish, but you gotta get the bun in the oven before it can bake. some trees are more sensitive than others to short term weather cycles.
So if you're  
Bill in UT : 9/20/2014 12:06 pm : link
Pro Life, you can't respond here? :)
My good neighbor across the street has a magnificent 80-90 ft oak  
Marty in Albany : 9/20/2014 1:21 pm : link
on his lawn. For the last 30 autumns that tree has put leaves on my lawn 6-8 weeks after all the other trees have lost their leaves. Some day I'm gonna take a bucket of gasoline and set fire to that tree. So don't expect any sympathy from me about your stupid acorns. ;-)
More Acorns more squirrels  
Run with 81 : 9/20/2014 1:32 pm : link
for the launcher...

(hope the link works... I'm playin around on an asus transformer tablet...)

NO animals were hurt during this experiment... (calm down U U you people!!)




So much for that link...  
Run with 81 : 9/20/2014 1:35 pm : link
http://www.downvids.net/squirrel-launcher--557535.html

Cut & Copy this if I still dont get it right below...
Here's an explanation I've read, hard to prove though:  
81_Great_Dane : 9/20/2014 6:31 pm : link
The Passenger Pigeon used to roost en masse in selected groves of trees. Those flocks could be in the hundreds of millions, even billions, of birds. The trees adapted with seasons of "mast fruit," when they'd put out a bunch of extra nuts to attract the pigeons.

When pigeons roosted in an area, they'd leave droppings as much as a foot thick on the ground. Gross? Sure. But great fertilizer for the trees.

So while the pigeons are extinct, mast fruit lives on.
You think acorns are bad?  
SwirlingEddie : 9/20/2014 6:58 pm : link
The walnuts from our tree are big enough to dent your car and thick enough on the ground that it's like walking on roller skates. Nearly broke my ankles three times last Fall.
I have like a 200 year old oak in my back yard...  
SB : 9/21/2014 11:25 am : link
...that has been blasting me with acorns since I moved here 10 years ago. basically buries my lawn under a layer of acorns.

I read that if you soak them or boil them for long enough, the tannins come out so that they are edible for humans, or alternatively you can use them for your smoker.
Buy some pigs  
buford : 9/21/2014 7:21 pm : link
they love acorns.
Arborists  
Some Fan : 9/21/2014 8:54 pm : link
How do I get sap off my cars? I have these large evergreen trees and they drop pine cones and tree sap all the fuck over. What is a dude to do?
I think they are cyclical depending on the type of oak  
pjcas18 : 9/21/2014 9:06 pm : link
some years my backyard is like walking on marbles with all the acorns and then other years there are practically none.

the worst thing for me is the squirrels, they dig up the grass collecting the acorns.

There is a term for abundant years, they're called "mast" years and no one really knows why it fluctuates from year to year (at least that I've heard of)
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