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Giants Catch a Break, Arian Foster Out Today

CromartiesKid21 : 9/21/2014 8:43 am
Just reported by Ian Rapoport on NFL Network. Likley Alfred Blue the starter.
wow thats huge  
Jints in Carolina : 9/21/2014 8:44 am : link
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Giants  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2014 8:45 am : link
catch a break...Carson Palmer was out last week...
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Jints in Carolina : 9/21/2014 8:45 am : link
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 3m
#Texans RB Arian Foster (hamstring) is viewed as a longshot to play today vs. #Giants, sources says. Could mean a lot of Alfred Blue & co
That's big..  
rocco8112 : 9/21/2014 8:46 am : link
they do not want to Fitzpatrick to actually have to make plays. D has to bottle up that run and get some turnovers and three and outs instead of being embarrassed on third and long.

Giants need to get this one today, this is the Super Bowl , go Big Blue!
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Danny Kanell : 9/21/2014 8:47 am : link
Wow, that's a huge loss for them.
Eric took the words right out of my mouth.  
Blue21 : 9/21/2014 8:47 am : link
Giants history with backups aint good.
RE: Giants  
Jints in Carolina : 9/21/2014 8:47 am : link
In comment 11872621 Eric from BBI said:
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catch a break...Carson Palmer was out last week...


Foster is a huge part of their offense running and catching the ball...it is abreak...if we lose, it is because we do it to ourselves. Stanton was pedestrian last week.
RE: Eric took the words right out of my mouth.  
Jints in Carolina : 9/21/2014 8:47 am : link
In comment 11872631 Blue21 said:
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Giants history with backups aint good.


yea forget about that 4 game winning streak last year vs backups....
Bottom Line  
Blue Blood : 9/21/2014 8:50 am : link
Giants need to show up and play.. period..
any reports on blue  
nyGIANT90 : 9/21/2014 8:50 am : link
.. And company?
Eric  
COLT46 : 9/21/2014 8:52 am : link
We have a history of getting our asses kicked by back up QB's. We will do well today. Bank on it.
Foster is a great back  
nyGIANT90 : 9/21/2014 8:52 am : link
But I have a feeling the scheme and o line in Houston help him A LOT
Our approach with wounded offenses  
Reale01 : 9/21/2014 8:53 am : link
Is usually to sit back and try to prevent the big play. We do not attack back-up QBs. IMO We are actually less aggressive when we should be more aggressive. We let the reserves gain confidence.

It certainly would be a good thing, but should not make a difference with the way we play.

Coming out party for Mr Blue? Or last minute reprieve for Big Blue?

Did everyone suddenly forget we went from 0-6 to 4-6  
Jints in Carolina : 9/21/2014 8:55 am : link
vs backups?
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SanFranGiantsFan : 9/21/2014 8:58 am : link
If we lose this game now...

We might as well forfeit the remaining 13 games.
RE: Foster is a great back  
UConn4523 : 9/21/2014 9:01 am : link
In comment 11872642 nyGIANT90 said:
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But I have a feeling the scheme and o line in Houston help him A LOT


He's injured, not playing poorly. He's an awesome RB when healthy regardless of system. He's the smoothest runner in the NFL, IMO.
Eric, the Giants D  
Fort Mill Mike : 9/21/2014 9:02 am : link
settled down and played well against Stanton. He didn't even break 20 yards. Fitzgerald was held to around 50 of those. The D-line was getting pressue and the secondary was preventing big plays.

That game was lost because of special teams and turnovers and you know it.
We lost last week because of all three squads...  
Jimmy Googs : 9/21/2014 9:14 am : link
Defense not getting off the field on 3rd downs

Offense not taking care of the ball

Specials giving up big plays

Arian Foster being out helps, especially with us having Herzlich out there. So expect Houston to play a bit more conservatively on Offense and probably a bit more aggressively on Defense to make up for it.

Huge, huge break if true.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/21/2014 9:17 am : link
Although the game is still probably no better than a toss-up, this is like replacing Tiki Barber with Damon Washington. (Yeah, the Giants won that game, but still...)

Wonder if the smart money knew about this. It would account for the dramatic move in the line.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2014 9:17 am : link
Giants defense did not play well against the Cardinals. Against a back-up QB who had not played in 4 years, they allowed the Cardinals to control the ball in the first half, put up 10 first quarter points, then when Giants went up 14-10, allowed yet another long drive. Plus, the Cardinals rushed for well over 100 yards.

That was an opponent the Giants should have completely shut down.
Andre  
Arcanum : 9/21/2014 9:19 am : link
Johnson is there.
RE: RE: Foster is a great back  
nyGIANT90 : 9/21/2014 9:24 am : link
In comment 11872657 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 11872642 nyGIANT90 said:


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But I have a feeling the scheme and o line in Houston help him A LOT



He's injured, not playing poorly. He's an awesome RB when healthy regardless of system. He's the smoothest runner in the NFL, IMO.


Yeah.. He's fun to watch. I was speaking more to the fact that a back up may be able to come in and do well given the offense.
Yeah, we have our CB depth go to shit in a week  
jcn56 : 9/21/2014 9:27 am : link
we lose a starting WR, our OL is sporting guys we were hoping wouldn't have to see snaps, and our high first round draft pick has been nursing a bad hammy from the jump...

...but the Giants catch a break.
Ironically, if Andre Brown had shown the Texans anything ...  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/21/2014 9:29 am : link
...he'd be in line to play a big role for them today. Instead, they have Ronnie Brown as the most likely third-down guy, despite the fork that has protruded from his back since mid-2007. Jonathan Grimes has decent hands too. Blue's credentials as a receiver resemble Andre Williams's.
That news balances out no Beason today  
Rjanyg : 9/21/2014 9:33 am : link
Texans still have JJ Watt. He catches TD's a swell as hits QB's. If he was out, we might have a chance.
RE: Ironically, if Andre Brown had shown the Texans anything ...  
bradshaw44 : 9/21/2014 9:41 am : link
In comment 11872699 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...he'd be in line to play a big role for them today. Instead, they have Ronnie Brown as the most likely third-down guy, despite the fork that has protruded from his back since mid-2007. Jonathan Grimes has decent hands too. Blue's credentials as a receiver resemble Andre Williams's.


I believe he is suspended. Unless he was one of the players allowed back after the agreement.
Bradshaw: Good point.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/21/2014 9:45 am : link
It was a PED suspension. Don't know whether he's appealing it, or fading quietly into the sunset.
Alfred Blue  
Jimmy Googs : 9/21/2014 10:04 am : link
You're my boy, Blue...

I'm with Eric  
Matt M. : 9/21/2014 10:08 am : link
The Giants D did not play well last week. They weren't terrible, but they weren't good. I truly can't stand Fewell's D.

The difference between last week and this week is outsdie of replacing Stanton for Palmer, the Cardinals offense still had some playmakers and a decent OL. The Texans, without Foster and with Johnson suspended are not a very good offense.
Johnson isn't suspended.  
arcarsenal : 9/21/2014 10:09 am : link
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With Foster out  
trueblueinpw : 9/21/2014 10:13 am : link
I bet Fewell leaves the recievers in single coverage and loads up in the box to stuff the run. Except on third and long when Fewell will drop the pass rush into coverage and bring the DBs into the box to stuff the run. You know, just because that doesn't make any sense at all.
Why would Johnson be suspended?  
Jints in Carolina : 9/21/2014 10:15 am : link
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reale1 and eric from bbi  
area junc : 9/21/2014 10:15 am : link
are onto something. surprises me how many people here are thinking the D played well last week.

week one down 14-0, week 2 down 10-0 before the anthem's over. and then not stopping the run after the O reels it in with the lead. that is bad D.

a backup QB walks into ur house, u do what the Falcons did to mccown and the Bucs thursday nite.

the D needs to start the game strong, particularly at home.
To be fair,  
bceagle05 : 9/21/2014 10:48 am : link
the Cards were aided by a few awful calls on their opening touchdown drive.
Defense gave up 17 points, 3 were after the fumble  
gmen1234 : 9/21/2014 10:55 am : link
which they held them to a field goal. So I give them 14. That is enough on their side to win. THe game was lost with special teams.
Yes..They were  
Howyadoin : 9/21/2014 10:56 am : link
for the WHOLE game !
If our offense can't put more than 14 on the board..  
arcarsenal : 9/21/2014 10:58 am : link
You can't expect to win games. That's a lot to put on the defense. Especially today without Beason.
no arc it was the defenses fault for last week  
Jints in Carolina : 9/21/2014 11:02 am : link
get with the program!
The hand wringing over the D this week was just so strange..  
arcarsenal : 9/21/2014 11:05 am : link
Stanton completed less than half his passes. He threw for 167 yards. He was sacked 4 times, hit more than twice that.. threw zero TD passes.

And all we heard this week on this board was about how the defense "couldn't stop them"

Yes, we gave up the early TD.. which was aided by a couple of brutal calls. It was the only TD the defense gave up all game.

We have to protect the football. Stop giving it away and we'll actually win games like this. It's very simple.
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micky : 9/21/2014 11:13 am : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 2m

Arian Foster on the field now testing out his hamstring with trainers. Reports have been that he won't play today. Nothing official yet #NYG
Foster officially out now.  
micky : 9/21/2014 11:27 am : link
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gmen1234  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2014 12:03 pm : link
Good defenses shut down crappy back up QBs and get the ball back for their offense. No turnovers and the Giants offense only had the ball three times in the first half.

The defense needs to carry the team - and they are not doing it.
RE: gmen1234  
spike : 9/21/2014 12:39 pm : link
In comment 11872922 Eric from BBI said:
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Good defenses shut down crappy back up QBs and get the ball back for their offense. No turnovers and the Giants offense only had the ball three times in the first half.

The defense needs to carry the team - and they are not doing it.


agreed. Fewell must be on the hot seat this seat.
Defense played well for a stretch versus the Cards  
JonC : 9/21/2014 12:48 pm : link
but started out and closed the game very poorly.

It won't get better without Beason, let's hope the DL brings it and the DBs make fewer mental/comm errors.

Just get to 1-2.
is JJ Watt  
santacruzom : 9/21/2014 1:00 pm : link
Out? No?

Crap.

How about Tom Quinn? Is he there? Yes?

Double crap.
This break is the main reason their offense was bad the entire first  
SGMen : 9/21/2014 3:17 pm : link
half. They run better with Foster and the first two games indicate that for sure. The Texans L is solid.
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