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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2014 3:57 pm
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there is hope.  
Moondwg : 9/21/2014 3:58 pm : link
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GAME BALL: O-line  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 9/21/2014 3:58 pm : link
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must win game won  
chris r : 9/21/2014 3:58 pm : link
lots of encouraging signs from the offense.

Not sold on the defense.
I hope we recover  
dune69 : 9/21/2014 3:59 pm : link
better than the Skins for Thursday night.
Very good win!!  
Sean : 9/21/2014 3:59 pm : link
very promising across the board.
Coughlin ties Joe Gibbs  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/21/2014 3:59 pm : link
in career wins (171).
gameballs to OL DL and Jennings and Eli  
micky : 9/21/2014 4:00 pm : link
and to getting off the schnied!First win!

Offense looks good.  
drkenneth : 9/21/2014 4:00 pm : link
If ODB is real deal, this team may have a chance.

Jennings was great.

Eli was played very well.

Nice job by the oline.

Looks like they may be getting comfortable.
We needed that!  
endwerc : 9/21/2014 4:00 pm : link
Still a lot of hiccups but good to see that they can nut up when they need to. O-line was awesome, Jennings and Eli were great. Great win.
Eli hater  
Zebra3 : 9/21/2014 4:00 pm : link
Where you at?
We actually should be 2-1  
PatersonPlank : 9/21/2014 4:01 pm : link
Eli is going to be just like Brees/Rodger,etc in this offense. The OL is improving, the D still looks ok, I think we are getting there. We will keep improving every week. If the OL holds then we will compete.
This was a performance we didn't see in 2013  
Bramton1 : 9/21/2014 4:01 pm : link
Just a dominant performance for the Giants. Scored 30 points, and should have been more.
What a relief  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/21/2014 4:01 pm : link
well played game. Hats off to the OL as the biggest surprise.
dont get too high  
natefit : 9/21/2014 4:01 pm : link
its one game at a time. its a good step in the right direction. Now do something with it.
What is radio station for post game?  
drkenneth : 9/21/2014 4:01 pm : link
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I'm not sold for a second on almost any aspect of this team, but I'm  
Riggies : 9/21/2014 4:01 pm : link
glad they won and a repeat performance of last year's start is now dead and gone.

Other than showing some cat-like agility, Fitzpatrick thankfully helped the Giants out a bit today like they needed him to.
Nice win  
NYMase : 9/21/2014 4:02 pm : link
Hell yeah!

Nice to see the Oline play well and you see what the results can be when that finally happens
Great games by Manning and Jennnings ... but always knew  
baadbill : 9/21/2014 4:02 pm : link
what they could do ... the big surprise today was just how well the OL played ... which is HUGE
Baby steps.  
Curtis in VA : 9/21/2014 4:02 pm : link
Next week is gonna be tough.
42-0 under Tom Coughlin  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/21/2014 4:02 pm : link
When we go plus 2 or better in turnover differential

best game theyve played in a long time. I have very low expectations for this team but I would love to be wrong. Thursday is going to be very telling.
RE: dont get too high  
Dan in WNY : 9/21/2014 4:03 pm : link
In comment 11874274 natefit said:
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its one game at a time. its a good step in the right direction. Now do something with it.


Are you talking to us or the Giants?
Thank you.  
That Said : 9/21/2014 4:03 pm : link
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JPP  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2014 4:03 pm : link
limping off field according to Ralph.
WCBS 880 AM  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/21/2014 4:03 pm : link
is broadcasting the game and still going so far in the post game.
good win for the Gmen  
Bradshaw #44 : 9/21/2014 4:03 pm : link
oline is coming together. ODB is coming back this week, lets hope there is no injuries from this game.
how the hell did Texans get 411 yds of offense?!  
Simms11 : 9/21/2014 4:03 pm : link
Defense started to crumble in 2nd half. Nobody covers TEs and their passing game got better. Fewell sucks ass at making adjustments, especially when there was not enough pressre on Fitz in 2nd half.
the most impressive part of the win  
giantfanboy : 9/21/2014 4:04 pm : link
i do not remember the last time the giants had so so many
2nd and shorts

The safety position was once a strength  
Defenderdawg : 9/21/2014 4:04 pm : link
Brown needs to get his game back

Meanwhile the Redskins hurting a little...

@MikeJonesWaPo: Ugly day for #Redskins: Hall on crutches, Lavauo out w knee injury, and Trent Williams and Baker both ejected.
Game  
AcidTest : 9/21/2014 4:04 pm : link
balls to:

OL.
Jennings.
Eli.
D. Gave up some plays, but overall was excellent. Stevie Brown and J. Williams didn't have good games.
Thought the WRs and TEs were also good.

ST was a mixed bag. Without the blocked punt, they would have been terrible.

What's really encouraging, is how dominant the OL was right from the start.
Eli looked flawless  
bradshaw44 : 9/21/2014 4:04 pm : link
Fuck all you idiots that want him gone.
Nice win  
JOrthman : 9/21/2014 4:04 pm : link
30 to 17 and it wasn't that close. We had two huge blunders we had to overcome that would of at least gave us two more field goals and the Reffs arbitrarily deciding when to throw flags.
RE: good win for the Gmen  
baadbill : 9/21/2014 4:05 pm : link
In comment 11874288 Bradshaw #44 said:
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... ODB is coming back this week ...


If I understand correctly, he hasn't yet had one single practice ... and yet the media says he's playing on a short week Thu night? I'll believe it when I see it.

RE: What is radio station for post game?  
micky : 9/21/2014 4:05 pm : link
In comment 11874276 drkenneth said:
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Wcbs 880 I believe for radio..and My9 in NY
Giants talentless OL vs the great talent of Texans front 7  
Mason : 9/21/2014 4:05 pm : link
Experts say no contest.
Gotta give credit where credit is due.  
bceagle05 : 9/21/2014 4:06 pm : link
OL was fantastic. Eli is throwing the ball great. It'll be fun when Beckham gets in the mix, and Parker gets out of the mix.
OL cleared space  
rebel yell : 9/21/2014 4:06 pm : link
for some greats runs and gave Eli time. Eli is an assassin when he has time. Good signs. Still much work to do.
Manning ... 123 QB rating  
baadbill : 9/21/2014 4:07 pm : link
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Progress!!  
Giantology : 9/21/2014 4:07 pm : link
Starting to get excited about this offense... Eli lookin sharp.
wcbs am  
natefit : 9/21/2014 4:10 pm : link
is back to news. ANybody?
RE: RE: What is radio station for post game?  
drkenneth : 9/21/2014 4:11 pm : link
In comment 11874298 micky said:
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Wcbs 880 I believe for radio..and My9 in NY



Not on 880...Giants.com
WCBS 880 AM  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/21/2014 4:11 pm : link
on the radio has Coughlin's postgame on now
JPP  
trueblueinpw : 9/21/2014 4:11 pm : link
Already lots of well deserved kudos for the o line handling JJ Nott. JPP had another very good game, especially playing the run. This was a very good game for all but special teams.
Good to see the team  
SwirlingEddie : 9/21/2014 4:13 pm : link
feel good about itself. Nice win!
RE: Eli looked flawless  
mrvax : 9/21/2014 4:13 pm : link
In comment 11874295 bradshaw44 said:
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Fuck all you idiots that want him gone.


Amen.
Eli threw for 75% on the day  
Great White Ghost : 9/21/2014 4:13 pm : link
Not too shabby
Huge win  
Phil in LA : 9/21/2014 4:13 pm : link
Money plays from the money players.
I like West Coast Eli better than Bombs Away Eli  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/21/2014 4:14 pm : link
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Another few games and our OL  
Big Blue '56 : 9/21/2014 4:15 pm : link
should be rather productive on a consistent basis..
The OL, Eli, Cruz, Jennings, and JPP  
The_Taxman : 9/21/2014 4:15 pm : link
Great play by all of them today. Especially Pugh, Richburg, and Walton. Beatty was pretty good. Jerry was pedestrian. But Richburg was an animal. He has that combination of toughness and skill. He was a steal in the 2nd round. Pugh was great too. The way they handled that very good Houston front 7 was impressive. Hynoski chipped in with some vicious blocks too. Eli was phenomenal today. His throws were strong and accurate. Cruz looked the best he has in 2 years.

Jennings was a monster. The work load was a little too much though, especially with a short week. Williams has been a disappointment. He looks hesitant and his burst is inconsistent. I've said it a few times and I'll say it again. I'd like to see Hillis get a few snaps on 3rd downs. I don't want to burn out Jennings.

JPP was all over the place today on D. He looks healthy and strong.
RE: I like West Coast Eli better than Bombs Away Eli  
baadbill : 9/21/2014 4:15 pm : link
In comment 11874327 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Give him a solid OL and he excels in either style. He is one of the best long ball QB I've ever seen.
Agreed JPP, Moore, Jenkins and Hankins really applied pressure  
Mason : 9/21/2014 4:16 pm : link
Patterson and Kuhn, not so much. Thought Bromley would get snaps over those two since he showed more in preseason than both of them but....
RE: RE: I like West Coast Eli better than Bombs Away Eli  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/21/2014 4:16 pm : link
In comment 11874332 baadbill said:
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Give him a solid OL and he excels in either style. He is one of the best long ball QB I've ever seen.


True, but watching him get into a rhythm is fun. Today was like getting to see him in 2-minute mode all game.

We could've scored 40 if they didn't kind of take the air out of the ball once they hit 20 points.
Eli played ...  
Mike in Raleigh : 9/21/2014 4:18 pm : link
WELL ... TODAY !!! Yeah !!!!
Game balls to ....  
Mike in Raleigh : 9/21/2014 4:18 pm : link
Jennings and OL - IMO !!!
The new ofense  
River Mike : 9/21/2014 4:21 pm : link
is coming along nicely and Eli proved he can run it effectively. Nice job all around!
RE: I like West Coast Eli better than Bombs Away Eli  
Zebra3 : 9/21/2014 4:22 pm : link
In comment 11874327 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Eli made all his receivers at ol miss look good too.
He is in a new offense like a rookie but he is far from a rookie and when he hits his stride a lot of people are going to owe him an apology for shitting on him the last two years. He's a fucking Manning he will be fine!
Comeback player of the year maybe?
Nice to see  
yankfan : 9/21/2014 4:22 pm : link
what McAdoo's offense looks like when it's working. I like the fact that they looked comfortable.
RE: I like West Coast Eli better than Bombs Away Eli  
Peter from CT : 9/21/2014 4:22 pm : link
In comment 11874327 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Agree with this. Been waiting for years for him to play in a modern offense. His brain is a great tool in this style.
All of a sudden  
Spock : 9/21/2014 4:22 pm : link
McAdoooooooo is a god. Lol
Eli looked good last week  
redbeard : 9/21/2014 4:24 pm : link
Eli looked lethal today



We may have something, boys
First they had to learn how to crawl  
dpinzow : 9/21/2014 4:24 pm : link
Getting the first win is learning how to crawl. Next step, learning how to walk. Washington will be a big step forward if we win
Good ...  
Mike in Raleigh : 9/21/2014 4:25 pm : link
Win ... baby !!! Now there is HOPE for this season!!! Too bad the Rams couldn't close out the 'Pokes!!!! :)
Imagine  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/21/2014 4:26 pm : link
if the OL could play like this every week. Nothing works the the OL is broken. Today shows the importance of the OL.
RE: RE: I like West Coast Eli better than Bombs Away Eli  
baadbill : 9/21/2014 4:26 pm : link
In comment 11874345 Zebra3 said:
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... when he hits his stride a lot of people are going to owe him an apology for shitting on him the last two years. He's a fucking Manning he will be fine!
Comeback player of the year maybe?


Comeback player of the year implies there was a reason for shitting on him the last two years, doesn't it? Otherwise how is it a comeback? It would be insulting to Manning to refer to him as having a comeback.
Fuckin' A!  
Model4001 : 9/21/2014 4:26 pm : link
They looked so good today, so much positive all around...shit even all the mistakes were made up for!

Relief...
I'm impressed  
nicky43 : 9/21/2014 4:27 pm : link
The O-line has made more progress than I expected.
The new Offense looks very good.
In spite of the key injuries the Defense looks great.

The Giants are playing well above what I am expecting from them. They played a great game today from all three areas, O, D, and ST!

And they will continue to look this way so long as the OL does what  
baadbill : 9/21/2014 4:28 pm : link
it did today ... no QB pressures ... and great run blocking ... do that and Manning and Jennings will do the rest...
Good to see the old Victor Cruz  
mfsd : 9/21/2014 4:29 pm : link
show up today
Jennings being interviewed  
baadbill : 9/21/2014 4:29 pm : link
... "hats off to the OL, TE, QB and receivers."

And now he's talking about the D giving them a short field.

Refused to take any credit for himself
RE: Eli played ...  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 9/21/2014 4:30 pm : link
In comment 11874336 Mike in Raleigh said:
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WELL ... TODAY !!! Yeah !!!!


what a difference when he throws no picks.

I think we all held our breath on that throw that was deflected by J.J. Watts and fell among several Houston defenders.
Getting odb back  
Zebra3 : 9/21/2014 4:31 pm : link
Will give Eli another weapon and put randle's ass square on the bench where it belongs.
We got a good one with Jennings  
PetesHereNow : 9/21/2014 4:32 pm : link
You could see how bad he felt about yesterday's fumble during the interviews this past week. He made amends for it today, and ran very hard.
Pugh  
Canton : 9/21/2014 4:32 pm : link
@Connor_J_Hughes: Justin Pugh mentions how offensive line heard those that said they were worst in league after Week 1. #Giants

@Connor_J_Hughes: Pugh mentions the music Friday got him and teammates going "We're having fun" #Giants

@Connor_J_Hughes: Pugh says on the sack sack he gave up he was too aggressive. #Giants



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@Connor_J_Hughes: Justin Pugh said towards the end of the game he saw JJ Watt "tapping out." #Giants
Very happy with what I saw today.  
Geomon : 9/21/2014 4:33 pm : link
Very solid on offense, big game changing plays on defense and special teams. Hoping this is the new norm not an abberation.
I think  
Arcanum : 9/21/2014 4:33 pm : link
Nassib would do better in this offense!!











Foh!!
Well, hopefully Washington's spirit was crushed by this and they  
Riggies : 9/21/2014 4:34 pm : link
can't rebound in time for Thursday.
Eh, wrong thread.  
Riggies : 9/21/2014 4:34 pm : link
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RE: The OL, Eli, Cruz, Jennings, and JPP  
JFIB : 9/21/2014 4:36 pm : link
In comment 11874330 The_Taxman said:
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Great play by all of them today. Especially Pugh, Richburg, and Walton. Beatty was pretty good. Jerry was pedestrian. But Richburg was an animal. He has that combination of toughness and skill. He was a steal in the 2nd round. Pugh was great too. The way they handled that very good Houston front 7 was impressive. Hynoski chipped in with some vicious blocks too. Eli was phenomenal today. His throws were strong and accurate. Cruz looked the best he has in 2 years.

Jennings was a monster. The work load was a little too much though, especially with a short week. Williams has been a disappointment. He looks hesitant and his burst is inconsistent. I've said it a few times and I'll say it again. I'd like to see Hillis get a few snaps on 3rd downs. I don't want to burn out Jennings.

JPP was all over the place today on D. He looks healthy and strong.


Have to disagree on Williams. I thought he ran well today. Put his shoulder down and hit the hole, no spins or dancing. I think he got coached up over the week and responded well.
You gotta ...  
Mike in Raleigh : 9/21/2014 4:40 pm : link
like their chances Thursday night ... Eli ... usually plays very nicely in DC !!! ;)
RE: I hope we recover  
Upstate_Giants_fan : 9/21/2014 4:41 pm : link
In comment 11874260 dune69 said:
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better than the Skins for Thursday night.

We should, Washington had a tough physical loss today.
Giants will be  
mrvax : 9/21/2014 4:43 pm : link
2-2 after Thursday night. Book it.
RE: RE: I hope we recover  
Simms11 : 9/21/2014 4:44 pm : link
In comment 11874393 Upstate_Giants_fan said:
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better than the Skins for Thursday night.


We should, Washington had a tough physical loss today.


Don't count on it. They want to get back in the win column too and are playing at home on national TV. They played philly very well today. I expect another very tough game. If we can somehow find a way to win, it will say a lot about this team and what direction they are going in.
Jennings was exceptional today  
BlackLight : 9/21/2014 4:45 pm : link
but I'm a bit unnerved that he got 34 carries. I guess we needed the win, but we got a short week coming up, and we need him to hold up for the entire season.
They were just talking on the post game show about how the Giants  
baadbill : 9/21/2014 4:45 pm : link
didn't let those first two turnovers stymie them ... the fumble inside the 10 and then the very next possession the muffed snap ... things looked horrible for the Giants ... but they overcame the back to back miscues to have a very strong game ... and that says a lot about this team's emotional makeup and character
Washington's secondary is garbage.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/21/2014 4:46 pm : link
If we play Thursday like we played today, we can win.

I hate Washington.
I would say that is MOSTLY due ...  
Mike in Raleigh : 9/21/2014 4:52 pm : link
to the fact that these Giants players respect and trust HC Coughlin and his staff !!!!
My reply was to ...  
Mike in Raleigh : 9/21/2014 4:52 pm : link
baadbill !!!
It's been a long time between drinks  
Fort Mill Mike : 9/21/2014 4:53 pm : link
Cheers!

good game today  
mdc1 : 9/21/2014 4:54 pm : link
from both sides of the ball. Let's see how this translates moving forward, just one game. Time to see us win the money games against our division starting Thursday night. Texans without Foster and on the road, lets not get too giddy.
Defense played pretty well in first half......  
Simms11 : 9/21/2014 4:54 pm : link
2nd half was an abortion, except for the 2 picks. Fewell sucks at adjustments and I think may be our Achilles heel.
Season salvaged for the abyss.  
giantgiantfan : 9/21/2014 4:55 pm : link
Eli plays well, Jennings is solid, defense does its job. Lets work out those special teams gaffs and offensive fumbles. Good damn this win feels good.

Tough one going into Washington on a short week, they played a good Eagles team to the end. We can win it though.
Randle needs to step  
rebel yell : 9/21/2014 4:55 pm : link
it up and pull his head out of his ass! I think he has the talent, but he needs to mentally pick up his game.
RE: Jennings was exceptional today  
giantgiantfan : 9/21/2014 4:57 pm : link
In comment 11874403 BlackLight said:
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but I'm a bit unnerved that he got 34 carries. I guess we needed the win, but we got a short week coming up, and we need him to hold up for the entire season.


Yeah its a lot of carries and I felt the same way during the game, but getting that first win is too important. Ride him to that W. Deal with everything else after.
I thought Randle played pretty well today  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/21/2014 4:58 pm : link
He had 5 catches and made so good blocks in the running game. He drew praise for his recent growth as a blocker from Banks.
so  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/21/2014 4:58 pm : link
should be some
Lets not overdue it ...  
Beer Man : 9/21/2014 4:59 pm : link
This team is still learning the new O-system and I expect that there will be a number of highs and lows this season as they adapt to it. Today was a great step forward, but it comes on the heels of two very poorly played/mistake ridden games.
RE: Agreed JPP, Moore, Jenkins and Hankins really applied pressure  
Bradshaw #44 : 9/21/2014 5:01 pm : link
In comment 11874333 Mason said:
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Patterson and Kuhn, not so much. Thought Bromley would get snaps over those two since he showed more in preseason than both of them but....


Patterson blew up that play on the 4th and 1 to start the 3rd quarter..
123.2 Qb rating  
AnishPatel : 9/21/2014 5:04 pm : link
75% completion

is best good for 12th and 7th overall for Elis career. I didn't realize Eli had 11 other games with a higher QB rating. Even completion percentage surprised me. I thought this 75% was like top 5 if not top 3 in his career.
RE: RE: Agreed JPP, Moore, Jenkins and Hankins really applied pressure  
baadbill : 9/21/2014 5:04 pm : link
In comment 11874446 Bradshaw #44 said:
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Patterson blew up that play on the 4th and 1 to start the 3rd quarter..


Yup. Hankins got the tackle but it was Patterson who made the play in the backfield.
next 4 games before the bye are so critical......  
Simms11 : 9/21/2014 5:04 pm : link
3 of 4 are division games. We have to win 3 of the next 4 also to have a winning record going into the bye. Our Defense is what concerns me now,more then the O. I see progress with the O, but defense is still lacking in areas.

Washington had 2 100 yd receivers, including our biggest nemesis DJac, against philly. If we can't contain their O, we will not be able to keep up. Our offense looks more efficient then big play now.
No JJ on offense  
spike : 9/21/2014 5:05 pm : link
to screw things up.
RE: Jennings being interviewed  
Great White Ghost : 9/21/2014 5:08 pm : link
In comment 11874372 baadbill said:
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... "hats off to the OL, TE, QB and receivers."

And now he's talking about the D giving them a short field.

Refused to take any credit for himself
Gotta say his interview gave me a boner. Came off like a Mensch.If that's who he really is, then good for us and a better pickup than maybe even we thought he would be.That's a sparkplug. That's a guy like Tiki used to be who could lift up a team.Be nice to have someone on the team who can do that besides Eli, and occasionally Rolle.
Great effort  
Les in TO : 9/21/2014 5:13 pm : link
Kicked butt amazing intensity

Eli OL Jennings Cruz Parker all played great

Would be a blowout score but for the two missed Green zone chances

Kudos to mcadoo and fewell. Poodos to our special teams coordinator
Great win.  
Rick5 : 9/21/2014 5:14 pm : link
Thursday will be huge now.
RE: Great effort  
baadbill : 9/21/2014 5:17 pm : link
In comment 11874473 Les in TO said:
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... Would be a blowout score but for the two missed Green zone chances


Love TC but this "green zone" stuff really is so silly. And I betcha it drives McAdoo nuts.
Giants won the battle of the trenches  
PEEJ : 9/21/2014 5:18 pm : link
when everyone predicted that that was where they would lose the game
RE: RE: I like West Coast Eli better than Bombs Away Eli  
AnishPatel : 9/21/2014 5:19 pm : link
In comment 11874347 Peter from CT said:
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Agree with this. Been waiting for years for him to play in a modern offense. His brain is a great tool in this style.


I agree, I been waiting for a long ass time for a system like this. My worse fear was to have Eli in the same damn system for his whole career while other Qbs get to be 2 or 3 systems.
other than the start of the 3rd quarter  
oipolloi : 9/21/2014 5:20 pm : link
when the Giants went way too conservative with the running game, the offense was basically unstoppable. They stopped themselves a few times with turnovers and drops, but Houston did not really stop them much at all.
RE: Giants won the battle of the trenches  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/21/2014 5:24 pm : link
In comment 11874494 PEEJ said:
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when everyone predicted that that was where they would lose the game


I thought it was a fair thing to worry about.

That offensive line of Houston is a force.
*defensive  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/21/2014 5:24 pm : link
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need to get back to 500  
spike : 9/21/2014 5:26 pm : link
The Eagles are going to be tough this season, as are the other NFC Wild Card hopefuls (Cards, Niners, Falcons, Saints, Panthers, Lions, Packers)
Victor Cruz  
NFL4SanAntonio : 9/21/2014 5:27 pm : link
Some who said we  
oldog : 9/21/2014 5:48 pm : link
we would lose, seem to have hoped for a JPP injury, and thought Texas would dominate us, must be just a bit dissapointed.
RE: other than the start of the 3rd quarter  
AnishPatel : 9/21/2014 5:49 pm : link
In comment 11874497 oipolloi said:
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when the Giants went way too conservative with the running game, the offense was basically unstoppable. They stopped themselves a few times with turnovers and drops, but Houston did not really stop them much at all.


I despise that shit! I loved what Bruce Arians did to us to kill clock. Instead of the run 3 times and punt, he threw for the first down.

One thing about TC I hate is when we get the lead and he goes into let's kill the clock mentality. Next drive, they score. Then, now we have to revive the offense and hope that momentum is still there.

Just let the offense continue to run their plays. If we happen to keep scoring, then so be it. Don't go into kill the clock mode.
these team  
chris r : 9/21/2014 5:49 pm : link
is going to benefit greatly if Beckham can contribute early. The don't have anyone on offense who can threaten the defense deep and get some cheap scores.

Him coming back and the OL continuing htis positive trend in addition to Donnell being better than expected means we could have a pretty good O going forward.
Randle  
KarenP : 9/21/2014 5:55 pm : link
I'd like to see him make some "contested" catches. like last week at the end of the game and this week in the end zone. he just doesn't seem to want it badly enough
Chris,  
AnishPatel : 9/21/2014 5:55 pm : link
I am not sure there will be cheap scores in this system. Closest thing was this slant that Cruz ran and got caught. Everything else is dink, dunk, dink, dunk and when we are in the red zone, then we can score.

I am not sure the deep passes are even designed well. Every deep pass has RR vs a covering CB and safety flying in. I think that is for keeping defenses honest. However, I don't see how they can work. But then again, I have zero trust in RR, especially running routes longer than 20 yards.
Early line for Thursday  
Buck Dharma : 9/21/2014 5:58 pm : link
Washington -6, seems a little higher than I thought it would be.
Anish  
chris r : 9/21/2014 6:00 pm : link
I can't imagine that every deep play will be double covered, but even so Beckham probably gives teams a better reason to keep that safety deep than Randle does which should open up the middle of the field.

except Randle is 6'3"  
oipolloi : 9/21/2014 6:05 pm : link
he has to be able to come down with the ball more often going against guys 4-5 inches shorter than he is

Eli put the ball right there for him twice. Both times the Houston DBs made a nice play. So give them credit. But RR has to start winning those battles.
RE: Randle  
Moondwg : 9/21/2014 6:06 pm : link
In comment 11874581 KarenP said:
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I'd like to see him make some "contested" catches. like last week at the end of the game and this week in the end zone. he just doesn't seem to want it badly enough


Yes. This. The good ones pull out the catch in traffic.
Giants win and monkeys riding dogs  
yankees78 : 9/21/2014 6:07 pm : link
at halftime.

Great day.
RE: good game today  
santacruzom : 9/21/2014 6:29 pm : link
In comment 11874421 mdc1 said:
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from both sides of the ball. Let's see how this translates moving forward, just one game. Time to see us win the money games against our division starting Thursday night. Texans without Foster and on the road, lets not get too giddy.


And hell, even from special teams... something that didn't appear to be in the cards in the early going.

It's possible that the confluence of winning the turnover battle and making more special teams plays doesn't recur much the rest of the season and this win is ultimately just one of 5 or 6. But you can't discount how this win must feel to the players and staff, and how it may build some momentum and confidence.
RE: Anish  
AnishPatel : 9/21/2014 6:35 pm : link
In comment 11874592 chris r said:
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I can't imagine that every deep play will be double covered, but even so Beckham probably gives teams a better reason to keep that safety deep than Randle does which should open up the middle of the field.


Again, it depends on OB. Can he get off the line? If he in sync with Eli? Can he break on slants, and square ins and out? I am treating him as a complete unknown quantity, until he proves he can do these things physically AND then produce.

I'd rather switch, and have RR take the top, and let Cruz and OB work the middle, where they can catch and run like Cruz did today.

That was fun to watch, and I was expecting Cruz would excel with the ball in his hands like that. So finally seeing it, was great. Now he just needs to catch the damn ball.
A whole bunch of you dick heads should  
BLUATHRT : 9/21/2014 6:37 pm : link
Go bury yourself. Now it's all roses when you were calling for Coughlin, Eli And mcadoos heads, now the suns shining and everything is peachy. Seriously, get on or off and stay there, your fickleness isn't suited for this franchise!
On offense,  
oldog : 9/21/2014 6:37 pm : link
use only what you need.
Randle,  
oldog : 9/21/2014 6:40 pm : link
will, chill.
RE: RE: RE: Agreed JPP, Moore, Jenkins and Hankins really applied pressure  
Mason : 9/21/2014 6:43 pm : link
In comment 11874450 baadbill said:
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Patterson blew up that play on the 4th and 1 to start the 3rd quarter..



Yup. Hankins got the tackle but it was Patterson who made the play in the backfield.


I was going to give Patterson credit when I first saw that play but replayed it and noticed, he fell down. Herz shot the gap missed whiffed on the tackle but showed down Blue because Patterson created a huge hole and Hankins made a great play. But I will rewatch it again to make sure.
RE: RE: Jennings being interviewed  
santacruzom : 9/21/2014 6:54 pm : link
In comment 11874464 Great White Ghost said:
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... "hats off to the OL, TE, QB and receivers."

And now he's talking about the D giving them a short field.

Refused to take any credit for himself

Gotta say his interview gave me a boner. Came off like a Mensch.If that's who he really is, then good for us and a better pickup than maybe even we thought he would be.That's a sparkplug. That's a guy like Tiki used to be who could lift up a team.Be nice to have someone on the team who can do that besides Eli, and occasionally Rolle.


I heard Jennings a few times when he played with the Raiders. This isn't a front... the guy is just like that.
Finally  
GiantJohn : 9/21/2014 7:09 pm : link
Defense gave up too much in second half.
I killed the Giants and Eli last week after that disaster, so it's  
BigBlueBuff : 9/21/2014 7:10 pm : link
only fair to say that they played much, much better but what the Hell is up with the critical errors that took points off the board. I wonder if a better team (say the Lions or Cardinals?) might not have let the Giants off the hook so easily.

Regardless, you only play who is in front of you and today was better and encouraging.
RE: RE: RE: Agreed JPP, Moore, Jenkins and Hankins really applied pressure  
Bleedin Blue : 9/21/2014 7:31 pm : link
In comment 11874450 baadbill said:
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Patterson blew up that play on the 4th and 1 to start the 3rd quarter..



Yup. Hankins got the tackle but it was Patterson who made the play in the backfield.


Let's not forget Ayers, hr played well and was in on pressure numerous times.
Thank goodness!  
Fishmanjim57 : 9/21/2014 7:35 pm : link
I'm so damn happy about today's win.......now I'm thinking about Washington on Thursday.
I'd love to see Big Blue get their first divisional win!!
Just got back from the game  
chiefgiant40 : 9/21/2014 8:26 pm : link
Thought the crowd was great on 3rd downs. Still don't know how Manning connected with Fells on that TD. Great play all around.
Jennings-- coincidentally, his best game as a pro...  
M.S. : 9/21/2014 8:37 pm : link
...prior to today was Week 11 last season agsinst these same Houston Texans when he rushed 22 times for 150 yards (6.8 ypc) and one touchdown on the end of an 80 yard rush.
A litle more bounce in my step  
Arkbach : 9/21/2014 8:39 pm : link
tomorrow. A win always makes Monday feel better.
RE: RE: RE: Jennings being interviewed  
Great White Ghost : 9/21/2014 8:44 pm : link
In comment 11874718 santacruzom said:
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... "hats off to the OL, TE, QB and receivers."

And now he's talking about the D giving them a short field.

Refused to take any credit for himself

Gotta say his interview gave me a boner. Came off like a Mensch.If that's who he really is, then good for us and a better pickup than maybe even we thought he would be.That's a sparkplug. That's a guy like Tiki used to be who could lift up a team.Be nice to have someone on the team who can do that besides Eli, and occasionally Rolle.



I heard Jennings a few times when he played with the Raiders. This isn't a front... the guy is just like that.
Good to hear, thanks for the insight.
Few observations  
rdt288 : 9/21/2014 8:47 pm : link
Herzlich wasn't that bad

Stevie brown doesn't have the foot speed

Gonna be fun if/when odb plays

Moore is a freak athletically

JPP playing like he wants to get paid

JJ Watt does whatever he wants to put there. It's amazing

Parker looked decent but a little bit dear in headlights

RICHBURG looks like a true animal out there. It's exciting.

The coffee will taste better in the am
Work will be more tolerable in the am
BBI will be fun in the AM

Onwards to DC!
^^^ This, still smiling from that game  
Mason : 9/21/2014 8:50 pm : link
So awesome to get this victory. Really had trouble watching other games.
RE: A whole bunch of you dick heads should  
Great White Ghost : 9/21/2014 8:53 pm : link
In comment 11874670 BLUATHRT said:
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Go bury yourself. Now it's all roses when you were calling for Coughlin, Eli And mcadoos heads, now the suns shining and everything is peachy. Seriously, get on or off and stay there, your fickleness isn't suited for this franchise!
Yes it is, it's NY, WTFs wrong with you?
2nd and 6 vs. 2nd and 9  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/21/2014 9:19 pm : link
last year it felt like we were awful when it came to down and distance, always in a difficult position to succeed. Over the past couple of games and especially today this team just consistently got into favorable down/yardage situations on 2nd down. That had a lot to do with Jennings' big day but we used some quick passes on 1st down to set us up for easy 2nd downs.

I think one of the biggest failures of the Gilbride offense was the lack of high% short passes in early down situations to set us up for good 2nd down situations. It's something that McAdoo seems to be emphasizing and I love it. 2nd and medium just gives an offense so much more options than 2nd and long.

Last year we won 7 games but were a "true" 4/5 win team. This year's team is clearly better than last year's team imo. That still doesn't mean we will win more than 7 games, but I believe the arrow is pointing up and I'm happy with the immense progress this offense has made in a month. Win on Thursday to claw back into contention and I'll start thinking about our chances of catching the Eagles. But this was a great win no matter how you look at it.
RE: RE: other than the start of the 3rd quarter  
blakjedi : 9/21/2014 9:31 pm : link
In comment 11874572 AnishPatel said:
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when the Giants went way too conservative with the running game, the offense was basically unstoppable. They stopped themselves a few times with turnovers and drops, but Houston did not really stop them much at all.



I despise that shit! I loved what Bruce Arians did to us to kill clock. Instead of the run 3 times and punt, he threw for the first down.

One thing about TC I hate is when we get the lead and he goes into let's kill the clock mentality. Next drive, they score. Then, now we have to revive the offense and hope that momentum is still there.

Just let the offense continue to run their plays. If we happen to keep scoring, then so be it. Don't go into kill the clock mode.


you guys read my mind. i said the same thing when we started playing keep away ball. its why our wins arent convincing typically because we let bad teams back in games they have no business in.

we are better than both the cards and the texans. no onewill give us credit fir smashing the texans though because they hung their hats on a texans win. that should have been a 44-3 drubbing.
Just got back to MD after being at the game today  
pganut : 9/21/2014 9:55 pm : link
First off, I had the true pleasure of taking my sons to the game today for their first-ever Giants game. Growing up without a father in my house to ever share in the bonds of Giants fandom, this was a special moment for me.

So, some thoughts:
- I met Joe (License Plate Guy). While varying opinions of him exist on BBI, he was great to meet in person and a truly nice gentleman.
- I was lucky enough to have my sons on the field before the game (sincere thank you to Pat Hanlon; you are a wonderful person). One of my sons idolizes Victor Cruz and actually got to speak and high-five him. Transcript: (son wearing Cruz jersey): "Hi, Victor". VC: "Hey, little man!" Son: "I'm a big fan of yours". VC: "I can see that...thanks! Fives?". They five it out, son walks away from the rope in a daze with permasmile and has vowed to never wash hand again.
- Jennings had the best game a Giants RB has seen since the halcyon days of Tiki Barber.
- Outside of the first offensive series and the Watt sack, the line was outstanding.
- DL was very effective, even Kuhn on a few plays. They need to close better on the QB and had some missed tackles, and that needs to be cleaned up. However, on some plays, JPP looked like he was shot out of a cannon. Damonster is going to be a force as he evolves.
- Secondary, with the exception of the long TD that Brown got toasted on, was impressive. I'll go out on a short limb and say that Prince is our best defensive player.
- Observation from pregame, just noting, both kickers were hitting FGs from 60 yards.
- It was beautiful to see the return of the Cruz we've come to love.
- From my vantage point, up above, great aerial view of the Fells TD...Eli's throw was magnificent. He put it into a window about two footballs high and two wide. Looped it over the first defender and threw it inside enough away from the defender directly on Fells that if 85 didn't catch it, no one would.
- Andre Williams is still learning the offense. There were two handoffs to him that were supposed to either go in a different direction or that he was supposed to be quicker towards Eli. The handoffs weren't bobbled, but the plays were blown up because of Williams' hesitancy; I observed Eli instantly angry, clapping his hands together and turning up his palms in that "gosh dangit" fashion.
- Seeing JJ Watt at field level...that is a large man.

Unbelievable day, great outcome, and a day with my sons we'll never forget.
^^  
pganut : 9/21/2014 10:00 pm : link
Oh, and one more thing. It was LOUD at MetLife today. It was great to see/hear.
My god did we need this kind of win  
djm : 9/21/2014 10:20 pm : link
..
Great day for all us Giant fans  
Lurts : 9/21/2014 10:32 pm : link
but Pganut, that first game with your kids is really special. Good for you!
Big time d  
Rocky Thompson : 9/21/2014 10:36 pm : link

I was actually laughing after the botched FG attempt. Complete involuntary reaction to keep myself from pain.

Big win, Offense is finally catching up with Eli.

Cousins looks better than RGIII, dead skins are talented, hope that Philly drained them and we can produce Thursday nite.

No more dark forebodings please...
Ryan ...  
Mike in Raleigh : 9/21/2014 11:06 pm : link
Fitzpatrick and Zach Galifianakis could be twin brothers - IMO !!!!
I posted a stand-alone thread on this  
dpinzow : 9/22/2014 12:13 am : link
but Justin Pugh gets the game ball. He gave up a sack to Watt early but got determined and stoned the best defensive lineman in football for the rest of the game. Watt could have singlehandedly wrecked this game
I was just looking at some nfl.com stats  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/22/2014 12:35 am : link
And I was surprised to see jennings is 2nd in the nfl in rushing (that was before bell did his thing for the steelers tonight, making jennings now 3rd) almost totally on the back of todays game. That happened quick.
Eli played an excellent game. He probably made only 3  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 9/22/2014 1:28 am : link
bad throws in almost 30. The OL did a wonderful job against everyone not named JJ Watt. Its nice to see the offense on the upswing.

The only issue I had with McAdoo was I thought the team got way too conservative offensively in the 3rd quarter. The 3rd and 3 run in the red zone with base personnel was ridiculous.

The defense was solid. The line did an excellent job of collapsing the pocket. The only negative was Stevie Brown, who was promptly benched.
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