We forced 3 turnovers. How many 3rd downs did they convert? On my watch they had 0 until late in the game when it was already decided. How'd they do on the 4th down they attempted?
This was without Thurmond. Without Beason. No Kennard.
Fire Fewell.
Oh. And by the way. Eli Manning can still play ball.
Why not go fuck yourself and leave the site?
when has arc ever "worshipped" Fewell?
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you feel vindicated for your bizarre Fewell worship based on beating one of the worse starting QBs in the league that was playing without his best offensive weapon?
Why not go fuck yourself and leave the site?
Second that.
Tell me more about how defenses with top tier personnel play "simple" defense and how we are trying to trick people via complexity based on....nothing.
If people are allowed to go wild about letting up too many 3rd downs last week I guess I'm allowed to point out when we hold a team to a goose egg until the game is out of reach.
Oh and everyone was also up in arms about not forcing any turnovers. We forced 3 today. Good enough or no?
I'm not trying to shit on the defense, I just find this an odd example to rub in peoples faces.
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you feel vindicated for your bizarre Fewell worship based on beating one of the worse starting QBs in the league that was playing without his best offensive weapon?
Why not go fuck yourself and leave the site?
Well said..Tired of this miserable little bitch. His last two weeks have been ruined because Eli played very good.
I'm not trying to shit on the defense, I just find this an odd example to rub in peoples faces.
Another positive presence on this site..Fine, Foster plays and we then REMOVE Blue's 78 yards..Under ANY circumstances, this team wasn't losing to Houston today
I'm not trying to shit on the defense, I just find this an odd example to rub in peoples faces.
Am I allowed to cite that we didn't have our best LB and were without 2 of our 3 starting LB's and didn't have our Nickel CB?
He was shorthanded personell wise, and did a good job to come up with an effective gameplan with his available means.Showed some talent today.
It was impressive, can't be denied, he called a good game, and prepared well.
The OP had no problem listing our defenses injuries, but didn't say anything about probably the most important offensive player being out for the game. Those are facts.
This team was the worst team in the NFL last season and did nothing to improve offensively but add Fitzpatrick and an OG in the draft.
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This was the worst team in the NFL last season.
I'm not trying to shit on the defense, I just find this an odd example to rub in peoples faces.
Am I allowed to cite that we didn't have our best LB and were without 2 of our 3 starting LB's and didn't have our Nickel CB?
You are, and you did. That was my response to what I read in the OP.
The OP had no problem listing our defenses injuries, but didn't say anything about probably the most important offensive player being out for the game. Those are facts.
This team was the worst team in the NFL last season and did nothing to improve offensively but add Fitzpatrick and an OG in the draft.
You're correct..You're just consistently negative under the guise of being "objective." A favorite retort here..
I'm glad the offense looked capable. But I'd like a little more than winning one game.
It's just that after hearing multiple posters calling for Fewells head after a game that we didn't lose because of the defense, it got a bit silly. The defense on this team should be slightly above average this year. If the offensive improvements are legit and they can put up points we are not an awful football team.
Because the Giants were an embarrassment the past 2 weeks. We lost to Drew Stanton.
I'm glad the offense looked capable. But I'd like a little more than winning one game.
Agreed. 1 game means little save for the emotional factor involved..The OL is beginning to do some things well as I believed they would. It just takes time unfortunately. My hope was that we wouldn't fall TOO FAR behind in the division before the O got in sync..Not sure with 3 days rest for our next game, we'll be able to definitively judge either..
I just answered your question. The Giants have been really bad the past 2 weeks. It's not that Vegas loves the Texans, it's that the Giants have looked so awful that they had to give the Texans the favorite.
It's just that after hearing multiple posters calling for Fewells head after a game that we didn't lose because of the defense, it got a bit silly. The defense on this team should be slightly above average this year. If the offensive improvements are legit and they can put up points we are not an awful football team.
We also played well last year against terrible QBs and myself and others still thought Fewell was mediocre. I want to see us put up a few good efforts vs good offenses before I subject myself to public shaming for not thinking Fewell is a good DC. Although he's been here long enough to kind of know what he is.
This is why stats, which will be factored in the entire output, sucks more than they don't..We held them to 83 yards in the first half..Most of their stats accumulated in the second half were garbage stts that only look good in the final totals, but mean squat
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at all....they played great in the first half. Gave up 350 yards and 16 first downs in 2nd half.
This is why stats, which will be factored in the entire output, sucks more than they don't..We held them to 83 yards in the first half..Most of their stats accumulated in the second half were garbage stts that only look good in the final totals, but mean squat
Did I miss where the Giants had an insurmountable lead entering the second half? The Texans made the game competitive briefly in the third quarter by moving the ball with ease against the Giants defense that was not in prevent.
The favor was because the Texans D has been red hot. The offense has been mediocre, and its missing Arian Foster. I don't think Texans stay the favorite without Foster.
But that's why I'm encouraged with the offense. We handled a defense that has been hot, even though it was missing Clowney, which is monumental. But it still had Watt, Cushing, and company.
I'm not cheapening the win, I'm cheapening the defensive impact. Which is the basis of this thread. Defense.
This is what I mean.
The stats look good last week but it's "they gave up too many third downs and couldn't get off the field". This week, it's "well they gave up a lot of yards in the 2nd half"
There's basically no way for this defense to be good enough around here. No matter what, something isn't perfect.
Agreed. 1 game means little save for the emotional factor involved..The OL is beginning to do some things well as I believed they would. It just takes time unfortunately. My hope was that we wouldn't fall TOO FAR behind in the division before the O got in sync..Not sure with 3 days rest for our next game, we'll be able to definitively judge either..
Can't stand Thursday night games because of reasons like this. This game is huge, and something as stupid as the date of the game can alter everything.
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at all....they played great in the first half. Gave up 350 yards and 16 first downs in 2nd half.
This is why stats, which will be factored in the entire output, sucks more than they don't..We held them to 83 yards in the first half..Most of their stats accumulated in the second half were garbage stts that only look good in the final totals, but mean squat
Did I miss where the Giants had an insurmountable lead entering the second half? The Texans made the game competitive briefly in the third quarter by moving the ball with ease against the Giants defense that was not in prevent.
You miss a lot..Your knowledge of the game could fit into a thimble..You're really quite stupid, football-wise
This thread is about defense, in case you were unaware. The team wasn't red hot, Texans D was red hot. What don't you get?
The team did nothing to improve offensively except add Fitzpatrick, and for this game, lose Arian Foster.