Fantasy Football Thread

Cooks as well if you can...

offense. I like Harvin and Cooks and I hate the idea of trading Gronk.

In comment 11874908 Saos1n said:

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Cooks as well if you can...

I don't think I can get Patterson and Harvin because they are on the same team and that would deplete the other team of their WRs. He also has Calvin Johnson.

I will try though.

It's crazy that I got ok games from brees and calvin and still exploded. Bernard is a beast. Jennings gets 90% of the touches. Cruz and mackin had big days. Loving my team right now.

In comment 11874910 kmed said:

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offense. I like Harvin and Cooks and I hate the idea of trading Gronk.

I can afford to give up Gronk. This would be my starting lineup if I traded Gronk for Patterson or Harvin.

Romo/Cousins
Ball
Patterson
Maclin
Julius Thomas
Jennings
Joique/Morris/Ingram/Pierce/Kelce/Terrance Williams/Kendall Wright

and that player is QB. Tom Brady blows, but luckily he throws it to Edelman 90% of the time.

I also think that offense can perform better once Bridgewater gets some starts under his belt. He looked really good in the preseason.

either Terrance Williams or Kendall Wright along with Maclin. I like Maclin but he is inconsistent and I am worried about him lasting all year.

Garcon

Roddy White

Michael Floyd

Antonio Brown

Jeffery

Crabtree

Nelson

Patterson

Harvin

I would not trade him now when his value is for the guys you mentioned. That's just be though, maybe you don't expect gronk to return to form like I do.

In comment 11874937 kmed said:

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I would not trade him now when his value is for the guys you mentioned. That's just be though, maybe you don't expect gronk to return to form like I do.

I think he can return to form. However, if he gets injured my season is shot. I need to flip a player for a WR or two players for two WRs. It isn't a matter of doing it or not as it is that I am doing it but I just want to make the right decision.

TO Lesean McCoy. Draft a stud runner early. GTFO. McCoy, Peterson, Charles, Lacy, and to an extent Forte have all been DUDS!!!!!!

selling low on gronk. Id wait for a breakout week befire trading him.

In comment 11874949 dep026 said:

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TO Lesean McCoy. Draft a stud runner early. GTFO. McCoy, Peterson, Charles, Lacy, and to an extent Forte have all been DUDS!!!!!!

Not Lynch. Cost $10 less in my auction league and so far has been lights out.

Time to sell high on Hopkins?

In comment 11874949 dep026 said:

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TO Lesean McCoy. Draft a stud runner early. GTFO. McCoy, Peterson, Charles, Lacy, and to an extent Forte have all been DUDS!!!!!!

Demaryius Thomas hasn't done shit either. Murray is killing it as is Bernard. I'm sure everything will balance out.

In comment 11874954 kmed said:

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selling low on gronk. Id wait for a breakout week befire trading him.

Have you seen their offense? It is a mess right now. It is too risky. I get you would not do it but I am doing it. How would you rank those WRs?

an animal. I also Wouldn't cry about a guy like mccoy having a bad game or Charles getting hurt. Or AP abusing his kid(which has nothing to do with risks of drafting a rb). Never liked lacy personally and forte has been just fine.

Has been a huge disappointment iso far. Aside from a touchdown on a handoff he's done squat in 3 games

140 points and i still lost...guy i played had 154....i would of beat anyone else this week...oh well life of fantasy

Dropped an easy 2nd TD today. Brady's off, wasn't his fault on Gronk's drop. He won't be all year.

Go get Lacy as cheap as you'll ever get him. 3 tough match ups so far, buy low. Same with Brees, get him if you can, Brees owners are likely 1-2 or 0-3 and desperate. If yer 3-0 Bree's has a favorable playoff schedule, drafting only gets you so far, plan ahead and adjust...

The other owner is loaded at WR and only has Ebron. This works out for both of us. I am close to a trade of Morris for Antonio Brown. If I can complete both of these trades my team would look like this:

Romo
Cousins

Ball
Jennings
Joique
Pierce
Ingram

Jeffery
Brown
Maclin
Terrance Williams
Kendall Wright

Julius Thomas
Kelce

I think that is a really nice team. I need to play waivers and get another RB though.

In comment 11875110 nygiants16 said:

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140 points and i still lost...guy i played had 154....i would of beat anyone else this week...oh well life of fantasy

I am going to lose because the Pitt kicker is on pace to kick 6 FGs. Didnt help he had Foles/Maclin when I had the fucking cheap ass bastard going for 22 yards on 20 carries.

Rob Gronkowski (knee) played on 42-of-73 snaps in Sunday's Week 3 win over the Raiders.
It's 57.5 percent, up from the 43.1 percent Gronkowski had played through the first two weeks. Remember that Gronk wasn't a full-time player last season until five games after coming back from forearm surgery. If anyone is selling, we're buying Gronk as he rounds into form.


He's def a guy I'm targetting in a trade. I'll try to grab him now before he blows up.

I made Gronk my 3rd rd pick in every league. Ray Rice hurt, Welker hasn't helped yet, Belichick screwing with us on Vereen? Maybe the shoulder? Bree's underachieving. Thank God for Niles Paul and Bobby Rainey. Got to hold on until players start producing...

is going to explode eventually.

Can't wait to see him with Bridgewater..

may have saved my butt. Down only 8 with bears defense and gould. He still have Suisham and I still have Brown.

Therefore killing my potential deal of Morris for him. Damnit. Maybe I can sweeten the pot.

In comment 11875207 Rocky Thompson said:

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I made Gronk my 3rd rd pick in every league. Ray Rice hurt, Welker hasn't helped yet, Belichick screwing with us on Vereen? Maybe the shoulder? Bree's underachieving. Thank God for Niles Paul and Bobby Rainey. Got to hold on until players start producing...

Gronk in rd 3 was dumb. We are now seeing why. If you are relying on Rsuney to keep you above water(I'm guessing your team sucks), you are going to be disappointed.

between the Bears defense and Gould. A pick 6 would be nice.

thanks for letting everyone know. We will all be on the edge of our seats hoping you get it.

from your scintillating opinion of Gronkowski.

and re-read all of the fantasy conversations before the season. Has rocky been right about anything yet?

they are all archived now.

These past 3 weeks. He's been getting vultured some, but boy does he look good.

The Steelers should really involve Bell in the passing game more, and I'm not just saying that because I own him (Yes I am).

So far I've been dead wrong about Shane Vereen. Conspiracy Alert : Vereen is in a contract year and Belichick the GM is trying to diminish his value by having Belichick the coach giving him less snaps.

Sanders has been an absolute stud for me.

Week to week, we have no idea who is going to get the lion share of the touches. Way too hit or miss for my taste.

Is saying that I took Demarco Murray completely off my radar in the draft. It was never because I doubted his talent, but doubting his health. If he was available to me in the 2nd, passing over him would have been one of the easier decisions for me in the draft. He's making me look pretty silly right now.

Someone in my league went bold and took Murray/Julio back to back. Paying off big time. Lets see if that holds up.

Calvin in rd 1 looks good.
Brees has been somewhat disappointing in rd 2, but I'm not too concerned.
Bernard in rd 3 was a steal.
Cruz in rd 4 was ok. I expect him to continue to get better.
Jennings in rd 5 was a steal.
Vernon Davis in rd 6 wasn't a great pick.
Maclin in rd 7 was an awesome pick.

same here. Murray was off my radar for the same reason.

In comment 11875923 YAJ2112 said:

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they are all archived now.

Maybe I should rephrase....

I wish someone else would go back and pull up the fantasy chats so we can all laugh at rocky who is most definitely in last place in his league.

Taking Keenan Allen over VJax/Pierre Garcon. Looks like I should have went Garcon. Not giving up on Keenan yet though.

He's been disappointing so far, but I think he will pick it up.

And I thought Eddie Lacy was going to set the world on fire. Not exactly the case. I did say that AP was going to have a down year and didn't think he should go top 5, but my reasons didn't include him beating his kids. So that's a wash.

Montee Ball has to be the most underwhelming high draft pick RBs in the entire league. So glad I stayed away from him.

RB out of Balt? Is he worth putting a waiver in? I need all the RBs I can get.

Ellington Chalers and sanders for Lynch Keenan allen and Donal Brown

Start 1 qb 2 rbs 3 wrs 1 te 1 k 1 defe... .5 ppr

I would then have:
Foles
jennings
Ellington/Charles
Dez
Sanders
hawkins
Donnel
Gould

do i stick with what i got or do i go for it?

I saved you from trading Calvin Johnson last week, you're welcome.

I told you Roddy White was a bigger injury risk than Reggie Wayne and you told me that was ridiculous because Roddy played 13 games last year even though 8 of them were as a decoy. Roddy's missed one game already.

I told you Peyton Manning, not Drew Bree's, Aaron Rodgers or Matthew Stafford was still the best fantasy QB.

I followed your advice on Shane Vereeni being a PPR monster because Stphan Ridley might not even make the 53 man roster and now Ridley is the feature back and Vereen is practically invisible.

You were right about Gio, even though Jeremy Hill is still a great bargain as a 9th rd pick but you haven't been right about much else.

Ya know, Fanduel allows head to head match ups weekly, why don't you drag your smelly and obnoxious self over to Fanduel and I'll kick yer ass for money this week?

I was anti-Vereen in just about every thread.

Should I assume you are in last place? I'm guessing you are, especially if you followed all your own advice.

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when did I ever say Peyton wasn't the best fantasy QB? If you can find that, I'll give you $10MM.

The only lie is you were anti vereen.

In comment 11876301 Rocky Thompson said:

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I saved you from trading Calvin Johnson last week, you're welcome. I told you Roddy White was a bigger injury risk than Reggie Wayne and you told me that was ridiculous because Roddy played 13 games last year even though 8 of them were as a decoy. Roddy's missed one game already. I told you Peyton Manning, not Drew Bree's, Aaron Rodgers or Matthew Stafford was still the best fantasy QB. I followed your advice on Shane Vereeni being a PPR monster because Stphan Ridley might not even make the 53 man roster and now Ridley is the feature back and Vereen is practically invisible. You were right about Gio, even though Jeremy Hill is still a great bargain as a 9th rd pick but you haven't been right about much else. Ya know, Fanduel allows head to head match ups weekly, why don't you drag your smelly and obnoxious self over to Fanduel and I'll kick yer ass for money this week?

Let's just go through all this garbage...

1. I would never take your advice about anything. I was offered Graham and VJax for Calvin. So far, Graham has outplayed Calvin in weeks 2 and 3. I chose not to weaken my WR's because my TE's are good.

2. White missing 1 week doesn't make you right, but I'll let you hold onto something.

3. You nailed Peyton. How could nobody else see that Peyton was the #1 fantasy QB. Great call by you.

4. I wouldn't touch a NE back because I never know who is the man week to week. Been saying it in every thread. That being said, there's def room for Vereen in PPR leagues. I'm glad I don't have him though.

5. Bernard is a top 3 RB right now. I don't expect that to change. You said he was terrible value in rd 2 and 3. You said Hill was the man to get in that backfield.

6. I'm trying to think of sometyhing you were right about and I can't think of anything. Help me out, besides when you claim that you said Peyton was the best fantasy QB which everyone already knew. Yes or no, you are in last place or close to it?

will wait until Doug Martin reports but I assume he's playing. Greene will still get the carries in Tennessee, but I can see that starting to fade, especially after Sankey's 6 YPC this weekend.

Was getting blown out because of McCoy doing nothing and starting Brady over Cousins (not doing that anymore). Thankfully Antonio Brown and Kelvin Banjamin has big games for me.

I wouldn't touch either of those guys. There's no better options? I can see Sankey's role increasing, but to the point of fantasy relevancy? I have always thought Doug Martin would be getting another shot to keep his job and Rainey's game last week only solidified that.

Ridley may not make the final 53 and then he did make the final 53; if you weren't paying attention that's your fault.

Granted I'm in the Vereen camp, but that whole offense is a mess (Brady owner). There is zero explosion and they need Dobson back in the worst way to stretch the field.

Blaming people for your fantasy mistakes is the definition of pathetic.

Don't want me doing a Desean Jackson bird dance on your ass?

In comment 11876342 kmed said:

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I wouldn't touch either of those guys. There's no better options? I can see Sankey's role increasing, but to the point of fantasy relevancy? I have always thought Doug Martin would be getting another shot to keep his job and Rainey's game last week only solidified that.

Nope, no better options. With Ingram injured I have no choice.

I'm fine with it since my entire league (everyone elses too) is banged up, just need to weather the storm.

I'm down .75 points tonight with Jeffrey against Forte. Really need the Jets D to shut down the run.

Let's get a bbi league going next year so you can come in last again. The more important question...will you be banned by then?

All I've had to deal with is Vernon Davis and I have Olsen so it's not even a big deal.

the kid who didn't take an RB until round 4 is in 1st by a wide margin, btw.

He took Calvin, Julio, Julius Thomas, Ray Rice, Desean, Ridley, Sproles...

Basically, if you have stud WR's the RB's don't matter. Really wish I didn't have the #1 pick taking McCoy. Learned my lesson for next year.

every Panthers RB is hurt.

Stewart with a severed sprained knee and Tolbert with a hairline fracture.

In comment 11876364 UConn4523 said:

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the kid who didn't take an RB until round 4 is in 1st by a wide margin, btw. He took Calvin, Julio, Julius Thomas, Ray Rice, Desean, Ridley, Sproles... Basically, if you have stud WR's the RB's don't matter. Really wish I didn't have the #1 pick taking McCoy. Learned my lesson for next year.

PPR changes everything.

In comment 11876383 PEEJ said:

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In comment 11876364 UConn4523 said: Quote: the kid who didn't take an RB until round 4 is in 1st by a wide margin, btw. He took Calvin, Julio, Julius Thomas, Ray Rice, Desean, Ridley, Sproles... Basically, if you have stud WR's the RB's don't matter. Really wish I didn't have the #1 pick taking McCoy. Learned my lesson for next year. PPR changes everything.

Its .5 PPR and my league was drafted as such. Not sure what you mean...

It doesn't matter if you drafted a RB early or waited until rd 4. I doesn't matter if you took a qb in rd 2. It doesn't matter if you drafted a defense in rd 7. It's abotu drafting the right guys.

poor play, and suspensions have killed me in one league, AP, Montee Ball, and Ben Tate (didn't think he'd be out this long) seemed like a decent trio at RB.

AP may never play again, Tate is about as predictable as Odell beckham, and Ball had some rough matchups to start the year.

I was lucky to get Terance West and Knile Davis otherwise I could be 0 - 3 instead of 1 - 2.

Brady, vereen, Gronk and their defense.

In comment 11876390 kmed said:

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It doesn't matter if you drafted a RB early or waited until rd 4. I doesn't matter if you took a qb in rd 2. It doesn't matter if you drafted a defense in rd 7. It's abotu drafting the right guys.

Ohh 100%. But my strategy is much like yours and picking #1 overall doesn't mesh well with it. I was trying to trade it but no one wanted it. Really wanted back to back WR's and was forced into a RB early. I basically have to hope McCoy turns his season around.

It also sucks starting the season #12 on waivers. You lose out on every major injury waiver claim.

don't trust him, wouldn't touch him in the draft at his ADP.

I did think Brady would pick up where he left off, same with Vereen.

Haven't talked much about team defense here, maybe that's someone else (though in their division its enticing). I generally go week to week on D.

I guess I was "lucky" that I didn't get an early pick. I was all in on McCoy, Charles, AP and Forte.

In comment 11876387 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 11876383 PEEJ said: Quote: In comment 11876364 UConn4523 said: Quote: the kid who didn't take an RB until round 4 is in 1st by a wide margin, btw. He took Calvin, Julio, Julius Thomas, Ray Rice, Desean, Ridley, Sproles... Basically, if you have stud WR's the RB's don't matter. Really wish I didn't have the #1 pick taking McCoy. Learned my lesson for next year. PPR changes everything. Its .5 PPR and my league was drafted as such. Not sure what you mean...

Just meant that PPR makes WRs more valuable

In comment 11876424 UConn4523 said:

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don't trust him, wouldn't touch him in the draft at his ADP. I did think Brady would pick up where he left off, same with Vereen. Haven't talked much about team defense here, maybe that's someone else (though in their division its enticing). I generally go week to week on D.

Sorry, was talkign to pj the closet Pats fan who was pimping Pats players for weeks.

all good.

Brady is pissing me off. Just embarrassingly bad. So bad I have to start Cousins against the Giants which means Brady will throw 3 TD's.

In comment 11876401 pjcas18 said:

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poor play, and suspensions have killed me in one league, AP, Montee Ball, and Ben Tate (didn't think he'd be out this long) seemed like a decent trio at RB. AP may never play again, Tate is about as predictable as Odell beckham, and Ball had some rough matchups to start the year. I was lucky to get Terance West and Knile Davis otherwise I could be 0 - 3 instead of 1 - 2.

Agree on injuries and Terance West. Martin wiped out my team, had him and his backup. TE Davis is injured, along with my backup TE (the guy from Washington). I have Petterson on my team in the hopes that he somehow gets playing time later on this year.

I'm at 1-2, struggling to find a RB.

In comment 11876428 kmed said:

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In comment 11876424 UConn4523 said: Quote: don't trust him, wouldn't touch him in the draft at his ADP. I did think Brady would pick up where he left off, same with Vereen. Haven't talked much about team defense here, maybe that's someone else (though in their division its enticing). I generally go week to week on D. Sorry, was talkign to pj the closet Pats fan who was pimping Pats players for weeks.

I hate the Pats more than the other NFC East teams. It's almost a reverse psychology for me, if I have Patriots players on my team I don't mind losing if they do poorly. It's irrational.

I only have Gronk, Vereen, and their D and only Gronk and their D are on the same team. Vereen is on a different team in a ppr league where he's been benched.

I thought he'd be better, and their D too, they should be better.

What sucks about it the most is they're 2 - 1 and by December will be firing on all cylinders and cruise into the AFC Championship game again. They were gifted a win yesterday on a bogus hold on a McFadden late TD that could have tied the game.

starts to play more. Brady's production ties very closely to Gronk being on the field.

I have been lurking this site since late 2007, finally signed up. Glad to be posting.

I'm in a 2 QB league and have the first waiver: Both Glennon and Bridgewater are free agents (the only starters that are FA's)

My qbs are Ryan, Tannehill, and Fitzpatrick. Should I use my first waiver on one of the 2 qbs?

apparently Philbin hasn't ruled out replacing Tannehill with Moore for next game.

Only because of the unknown. We know the rest of those guys suck.

Do you like Pitt defense also this week or Miami? I have Cinci on bye, and need to scoop one

but Pitt at home vs Tampa is a good matchup. That being said, they aren't very good(despite yesterday's effort).

but I have to fill in for Cinci who is on bye, and is my go-to defense week in and out. Have all three of my leagues still undetermined heading into tonight. On pins and needles here.

Cincy's def is legit!

Ive always been a week to week defense guy, but it's getting annoying(and expensive) to pick up a new defense every week. I have KC right now, but I think I'll pick up Detroit and roll with those 2 for the rest of the seaosn.

I practically brought up Vereen being the tits on every single fantasy thread.

I still have faith.

out 6 weeks with groin surgery. YAY!

Not that he was doing well, but i get to fill the void him and Reed have left me.

TE?

best of what's left is Cook for the most part. I'm OK with that on he weeks Reed doesn't play I guess.

McCoy in every league I am in. So far he is rushing at less than 60 YPG, isnt a threat in the passing game, and has 1 TD.

I hate taking RBs in round 1. The top 5 havent been anything (due to injuries and suspensions) while Murray, Bernard, and Lynchy have been great. Give me the stud WRs any day of the week. Wish I drafted 10th instead of 2nd.

But I have a chance to be 3-0 (due to playing the low man 2 out of 3 weeks). The only thing I finally did right was wait on a QB. I took Ryan and Rivers in round 7 and 9. Used Ryan in weeks 1/3. Rivers in week 2.

can just play I think i'll be fine. He can absolutely tear it up with a legit passer now.

I'm just going to be playing Larry Donnell consistently.

As a heads up, Ladarius Green had a lot more snaps Sunday than he did the previous two weeks. Just something to look out for.

for as decimated as my team is I can go 2-1 if Jeffrey outscores Forte by atleast .75 points. I'm thinking that won't happen since he's still a bit injured, but if the rush can get shut down I have a chance.

In comment 11876550 AnotherGiantsFan said:

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I'm just going to be playing Larry Donnell consistently. As a heads up, Ladarius Green had a lot more snaps Sunday than he did the previous two weeks. Just something to look out for.

Yeah, I may roll the dice on him. Cook and Green are available right now.

what was it this week? Did he play in 2 TE sets? Did he come in for Gates? Did he play in the slot?

Ladarius Green played on 23-of-69 snaps (33.3 percent) in Sunday's win at Buffalo.
Green did set season-highs with four catches and 64 yards on six targets. He also encouragingly saw two red-zone targets. However, his snap count was essentially the same as it was in the first two weeks while Antonio Gates was up at 65.2 percent of the snaps again. Green will be a boom or bust fantasy play in Week 4 against a Jaguars team that is as bad as the Cardinals at defending the tight end. His lack of snaps and consistent role in the pass game keeps his weekly floor incredibly low. Sep 22 - 11:53 AM

So I didn't get to see it, but from Yahoo :

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Green saw two red-zone targets, and drew a pass interference penalty in the end zone. Green appeared to play more snaps in the second half than Antonio Gates, and played a big role in two of the Chargers' four scoring drives.

he doesn't look it, but he's almost guaranteed to get injured. If that happens Green's value would be awesome.

That said, I'll likely go for Cook this week and see what happens.

Same with Hyde/Gore.

And then received 6 targets in the 3rd game alone. I'm not saying to plug him in as a starter next week, but he's a guy to keep tabs on. He should get more of a workload as the season goes on.

i feel like such a dick waiting for injuries. Hyde can be absolute gold.

A lot of my problems go away should Sankey take the lead. He looks on the verge of it.

last week. Needed the roster spot. I have Hyde on my bench too, but I just can't get rid of him for the reason you stated. He's a RB1, probably top end RB1, if Gore goes down.

I probably should have let go of Forsett because he will never be anything more than a change of pace guy.

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he's now getting a higher YPC with more touches. Its only a matter of time. I think he's going to be the sure first starter by week 6 at the latest unless he throws up some duds.

I'll play in a BBI league with you but let's make it a 16 team league with at least 5 Individual D players.

He's nursing a hammy, played through it against Seattle. Maybe didn't want to risk it in iffy weather at Buffalo?

Until otherwise posted Gates is still a top TE play against Jax...

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between the Bears defense and Gould. A pick 6 would be nice.

Bump for kmed. You dont have to worry anymore.