Thrilled for Eli...great game...but he got damn lucky on one

late in the game

lately I was sure that was going to be picked. It seemed to hang up there for a while.

you have plays like that though both ways (the Prince dropped pick) in every game. situation was different maybe, but the breaks go both ways eventually.

looks like that play was covered tightly and would've been a very difficult completion. But all in all, a very efficient game from Eli besides that one pass.

that happen every game. They happen on both sides.

If Donnell doesn't fumble at the 3 the Giants would have been up 24-10. If they don't botch the FG then they would have been up 27-10. It goes both ways.

Think " The Great Snatch"


There is no luck in football!

was awesome today...but it shows you how one play can make all the difference.

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Good thing it was tipped.

I'm gonna choose to remember the 25 other awesome plays Eli made today.

Life's easier that way. Eli looked phenomenal today.

Can't you just enjoy the win?

eli needs to spend some extra time with RR to clean some things up.

It didn't look good, but Eli, last two games has been unreal throws, splitting defenders. Today he split them, and threw to Parker, who dropped the damn ball.

But I was shocked it went through. He did too Cruz either last game or the Lions game.

Today for the 2nd TD was an unreal throw to a place where only your TE can get it. It was a perfect throw.

So I am not sure what the end result would have been. It could very well be picked off, or very well gotten through for a great pass... what wouldn't surprise me is if RR dropped the ball, lol.

Exactly DK. Too much good to focus on luck




In comment 11875093 Danny Kanell said:

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I'm gonna choose to remember the 25 other awesome plays Eli made today. Life's easier that way. Eli looked phenomenal today.

and that would have been a major error to potentially screw everything up... but the Texans got away with one too. The Giants shoulda/coulda/woulda had at least one or two more INTs, including one late in the game that would have been a pick six. Even the commentators mentioned it. It's just how football works out sometimes.

Sometimes a ball bounces off a TE's foot and turns into an INT when it should be a simple incomplete pass... sometimes you get lucky and a bad throw doesn't turn into an INT. Things usually balance out for the most part.

In comment 11875081 Gman11 said:

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that happen every game. They happen on both sides. If Donnell doesn't fumble at the 3 the Giants would have been up 24-10. If they don't botch the FG then they would have been up 27-10. It goes both ways.

Exactly. Happens every single week, multiple times in every single game.

there were 2 defenders there, but I don't think it would have been a pick-6. It was well inside the numbers.

is teflon....no doubt about it....

In comment 11875081 Gman11 said:

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that happen every game. They happen on both sides. If Donnell doesn't fumble at the 3 the Giants would have been up 24-10. If they don't botch the FG then they would have been up 27-10. It goes both ways.

Yup you can cherry pick every game and find these moments.

Let's just enjoy the win.

tips and miscommunications that eventually that luck has to swing in the other direction. I chalk it up to that. Worse decision was the bomb to Randle in double-coverage.

the genius offensive coordinator doesn't call a pass on 3rd and 2 when the Giants are running it down Houston's throat they might go up 24-3 and end it. But the boy genius does not and Houston scores in a minute and its a game.

But hey - lesson learned, right?

No - Giants continue to run it down Houston's throat on the way to 24-10 but after ripping off two runs to make it 3rd and 2 again, throw another incompletion and keep Houston in it.

I do not care if everyone on earth knows what is coming, when Houston cannot stop a Pop Warner team and you need 2 yards to close it out early in the 3rd you run it. And when you stupidly don't the first time, you have the brains to do it the second time.

I don't have a problem with Eli taking shots down the field to Randle (Randle has out-jumped people on the posts).

But there the Giants need to make it a 2 score game again. Re-watch the play...it should have been picked off. Great day by Eli. Very proud of him. But thank God that ball was tipped.

I'd say thank god the ball is tipped when it comes to Eli. It would seem almost ALL tipped passes, off hands, shoulder pads, heels of feet, all get intercepted. Add that to stupid decisions, miscommunications and you get Eli Manning.

As soon as the ball went up, I put my head down. Another Damn int. I was shocked to see the ball hit the ground. Normally that shit doesn't happen. Normally it's, " And Eli Manning with another game with an interception."

I'm not gonna feel guilty when an Eli tipped ball doesn't get picked for the first time in ten years.....

people are so defensive when someone points out a bad play by Eli. Why can't people accept some bad with their good?

for TD not to Randle.

The difference is they usually helplessly fall to the ground. We've had a run of bad bounces where ours fly to defenders. I'll take it.

In comment 11875081 Gman11 said:

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that happen every game. They happen on both sides. If Donnell doesn't fumble at the 3 the Giants would have been up 24-10. If they don't botch the FG then they would have been up 27-10. It goes both ways.

This

In comment 11875142 Eric from BBI said:

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I don't have a problem with Eli taking shots down the field to Randle (Randle has out-jumped people on the posts). But there the Giants need to make it a 2 score game again. Re-watch the play...it should have been picked off. Great day by Eli. Very proud of him. But thank God that ball was tipped.

They just need to win, Eric, that's all. it doesn't matter a damn if they win every game by one point and get statistically dominated. They just need to win.they don't NEED 2 score leads.That's what YOU need. Not them.You post like a man with PTSD, after last year, who could blame you.

Read between the lines folks. Eric is displaying guarded optimism. If you've been around long enough you know this means he likes what he sees but he's not ready to commit yet.

he's luckier that tipped ball didn't get intercepted. That ball hung up there for a long time.

His initial decision did not look good, but always tough to tell in slow motion.

Eli has thrown the ball very, very well the last two weeks. He's throwing as well as he did in the playoffs leading to the two Super Bowls. I had my doubts as to whether he was a consistent enough passer to be hitting the multiple passes in a row necessary for this scheme. So far, so good.

I am just hoping he keeps it going.

It SHOULD'VE been 24-0 at halftime (not 14-0) ... so yes ... it goes BOTH WAYS!!!

AND YET, MCADOO DOES NOTHING!!! FIRE HIM NOW!!

Stop being such a buzzkill.

From where I was sitting but I thought Banks said on the radio that RR made a play to break up the INT.

kill !!!! ;)

we shouldn't trade Eli, save the $20M, get a new QB or Nassib and move in a new direction in 2015?

Some posters need to be tarred and feathered. Really.

I thought Cruz was going to get stripped on his TD.

lets enjoy the fact that Eli seems to be back. Two weeks now he has thrown with confidence and accuracy. Seems much more comfortable with the offense. Jennings is a very solid signing. We have at least one TE. The defense played like they were NY Giants. Don't know where this is going but it sure was fun to watch again.

That is not a pass Eli should throw. Take the FG and go up by ten. Eli has been great two weeks in a row, showing what he can do in an uptempo offense.

But Eli has thrown a lot of INTs near the goaline. So I don't think Eric is wrong to point this one out

I would argue that Eli is more unlucky with tip balls than lucky, especially if you look at the league average. defenders seem to make incredible plays to intercept tip balls from him.

Yeah, he got lucky. He's entitled to some luck.

Eli played great, but I've noticed that he's 'floating' balls a bit on occasion. I first noticed it on an interception in the Detroit game (I think Cruz was the intended receiver), but he was rolling to his left so I knew it was a difficult throw. But I noticed it the past two weeks even when he had time. As if he's not following through on the throw.

And it's definitely not an arm strength issue, because on one of the plays (I believe in the second quarter), he subsequently followed it up with a rifle of a pass on the next play.

No harm was done yesterday, but it's a quirk I'd like to see fixed. Maybe it's deliberate. A few times he did it when a receiver was wide open - but it gave the defender time to close the gap and prevent significant YAC.

1or 2 questionable throws a game.Every throw the elite QB's make are great, I see them on the highlights. Wish we had one of those that never make questionable throws

In comment 11875405 BrettNYG10 said:

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Eli played great, but I've noticed that he's 'floating' balls a bit on occasion. I first noticed it on an interception in the Detroit game (I think Cruz was the intended receiver), but he was rolling to his left so I knew it was a difficult throw. But I noticed it the past two weeks even when he had time. As if he's not following through on the throw. And it's definitely not an arm strength issue, because on one of the plays (I believe in the second quarter), he subsequently followed it up with a rifle of a pass on the next play. No harm was done yesterday, but it's a quirk I'd like to see fixed. Maybe it's deliberate. A few times he did it when a receiver was wide open - but it gave the defender time to close the gap and prevent significant YAC.

I trust you, cause of your experience with floating balls

Eli caught, fair enough, but where is your thread on the perfectly thrown pass to Fells? That was an elite throw

Eli threw a pass, the D-line man jumped up to block the passing lane and the ball was hit. That's it, it doesn't have anything to do with being lucky or unlucky. Sometimes its not about our guy sucking.

Eli has a lot more bad luck then good luck on ways like that. He is due for a break every now and then.

In comment 11875434 Don in DC said:

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Eli has a lot more bad luck then good luck on ways like that. He is due for a break every now and then.

The scary thing is how often he puts the ball in a position where he has to depend on luck.

but Eric is correct, awful pass that we were lucky didn't change the momentum of the game. He stared down Randle, and he was covered completely anyway. I am not even sure if he was past the first down marker. At least pump fake somebody open.

One thing I have noticed is the ball isn't getting thrown into the end zone enough, particulary on 3rd downs when the FG is kind of already spoken for in terms of distance.