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Bloody brawl at Cardinals-49'ers game last night

I Love Clams Casino : 9/22/2014 11:50 am
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preaching to the choir  
Greg from LI : 9/22/2014 12:18 pm : link
Eagles fans might be bigger dicks - I don't know, never known many - but Redskins fans are just annoying. The team has been utter garbage for the better part of two decades and they still talk about them as if they're contenders every single goddamned year.
These fans are all jackasses, but where was security  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/22/2014 12:19 pm : link
At MetLife, there is a security guard always standing right to the entrance to my section. Last year, some Raiders fans started to get into it with a Giants fan in my row, the guard noticed, and out they went. No punches thrown. During night games, I have noticed State Troopers walking around.

It just boggles the mind that this group was allowed to get into it, throw punches, tumble down the stairs, THEN security shows up.
Kirk Cousins has already been crowned League MVP...  
Britt in VA : 9/22/2014 12:19 pm : link
around these parts.
RE: At the 0:42 mark,  
montanagiant : 9/22/2014 12:20 pm : link
In comment 11876069 Exit 172 said:
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is the security guy getting choked? Jesus...

Yeah the poor guy got bled on and choked until that one guy pops the guy choking him
Security  
Spyder : 9/22/2014 12:28 pm : link
there seemed like they were out-muscled by the crowd. I think there was even a female guard involved.

Nasty stuff best avoided.
well to one-up redskins beating each other up  
BH28 : 9/22/2014 12:29 pm : link
here are some eagles fans doing the same!
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the only way to stop this  
newmike2 : 9/22/2014 12:33 pm : link
is to stop selling beer after the first half. Then arrest and ban people from all stadiums (kinda like a no-fly list) with a zero tolerance policy for visibly drunk people.

This is why I'll never go to a pro game again.
Maybe a solution  
mrvax : 9/22/2014 12:34 pm : link
would be to stop selling any alcohol and replace it with pot at the stadiums.
a fight at an NFL game no way!!!!  
BillyBoy8384 : 9/22/2014 12:35 pm : link
drunks will be drunks
RE: the only way to stop this  
Scyber : 9/22/2014 12:43 pm : link
In comment 11876132 newmike2 said:
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is to stop selling beer after the first half. Then arrest and ban people from all stadiums (kinda like a no-fly list) with a zero tolerance policy for visibly drunk people.

This is why I'll never go to a pro game again.


Don't they stop selling beer after halftime at Metlife?
RE: preaching to the choir  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/22/2014 12:44 pm : link
In comment 11876084 Greg from LI said:
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Eagles fans might be bigger dicks - I don't know, never known many - but Redskins fans are just annoying. The team has been utter garbage for the better part of two decades and they still talk about them as if they're contenders every single goddamned year.


That's a symptom of a larger problem. The Redskins PR department must have some former Soviet propaganda employees. Redskins fans always think their team is awesome.
Gotta love how alcohol  
Doom5 : 9/22/2014 12:58 pm : link
a drug that aids is destroying more families, causes more violence and crime is legal, yet pot is not. If these douchebags were smoking weed at the game instead, this certainly would not have happened.
RE: RE: Redskins fans beating each other up?  
Jan in DC : 9/22/2014 12:59 pm : link
In comment 11876075 RC02XX said:
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In comment 11876053 Greg from LI said:


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There IS a god, after all!



Haha. I work with a ton of Skins fans, and they are some of the worst football fans to talk to. If it wasn't them hanging their hat on the sweeping of the Giants during the 2011 season (did they forget that the Giants won the Super Bowl that year?), it's them talking about how Cousins is the best QB in the NFC East (I think they said the same thing about RGIII when the season started).

And the shit-talking has already started for this Thursday's game.


Last time I went to a game (Pre-RG3) the Redskins fans were so depressed by their team that about 10 guys in front of me were drunk (I was in Giants gear) and even though the Giants were up by 30 or so, they were doing the drunk "You guys are good, we suck but at least we're not the Cowboys" thing.

I think it's always situational at these games.
" stop selling beer after the first half. "  
mamu : 9/22/2014 1:00 pm : link
Some fans probably get drunk tailgating before the game and aren't really affected by the 2nd half no-sell. Maybe refuse admission to anyone who appears drunk or have breathalyzer checkpoints at the gates run by cops.
This is  
SoZKillA : 9/22/2014 1:09 pm : link
Why alcohol really should be banned from games. I hate to say it but it's the truth.

Plus it'll keep the idiots from getting up every two fucking minutes when the game is on.
Some  
Arcanum : 9/22/2014 1:10 pm : link
People, take sports to serious. We aren't getting paid, and We aren't playing. I heard a guy say yesterday, that he, "wish death on the cowboys!!" Really dude ? Over a game. Smh
Alcohol gets people twisted  
dpinzow : 9/22/2014 1:13 pm : link
at the old Giants Stadium Giants-Eagles games used to have so many fights. Ironically sitting next to me were two Eagles fans, and there was no fight. They were just upset about how poorly their team was performing (this was 2005, the year TO blew up in their faces and McNabb got hurt while Eli won the division in his 2nd year)
I feel awful for the first SAFE  
UConn4523 : 9/22/2014 1:16 pm : link
security guard on scene getting punched in the face for no reason. Hopefully each person is identified, arrested, and charges pressed.

Yeah, haven't been to a game in a decade and have absolutely zero reason to want to change that.
we all have occasional frustrations  
natefit : 9/22/2014 1:17 pm : link
that could lead to physical violence. Take them to the gym and fight against the iron instead of some guy. You ll get the added bonus of looking better (not worse with a broken nose etc) later. Ive done this all of my life and never had a physical altercation
Video  
stretch234 : 9/22/2014 1:17 pm : link
There is a guy choking a security guard and a fan is punching him to try and get him to let go - f'n ridiculous.

RE:  
UConn4523 : 9/22/2014 1:18 pm : link
In comment 11876222 mamu said:
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Some fans probably get drunk tailgating before the game and aren't really affected by the 2nd half no-sell. Maybe refuse admission to anyone who appears drunk or have breathalyzer checkpoints at the gates run by cops.


You can refuse entry anyway. If anyone is belligerent security absolutely has the ability to refuse entry. The problem is it's easy to hide being drunk for the 30 seconds needed to get in.
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 9/22/2014 1:26 pm : link
1) Alcohol sales are already banned after half time at all NFL events, I believe. Or is it after the 3rd quarter?

2) Either way, just ban alcohol sale period. The next step is ban tailgating. As much as it would suck for the masses who abide by the rules, it would certainly go a long way towards avoiding the incidents like this.

3) Security was on hand right from the start of the video. They got manhandled.

4) To me, the lowest part, is the guy in the Dockett jersey on the other side of the railing who seems like a spectator and then pops a guy being held by security.
same shit yesterday.. though it was kind of tame from other games  
GMAN4LIFE : 9/22/2014 1:28 pm : link
guys trying to fuck with a texan fan with his kid. I mean seriously. the texan fan wasnt acting crazy or anything.
9er fans gaining a pretty good reputation  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 9/22/2014 1:34 pm : link
I went to a Cardinal game once in that stadium a few years back and you'd have to be the biggest asshole on earth to get into a brawl there. That's one of the most subdued fan bases you can ever be around.
RE: A few thoughts  
Mad Mike : 9/22/2014 1:36 pm : link
In comment 11876327 Matt M. said:
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1) Alcohol sales are already banned after half time at all NFL events, I believe. Or is it after the 3rd quarter?

At MetLife it's the beginning of the third quarter, but I believe the league rule is the end of the third quarter. (I also don't know how strictly they keep to it at MetLife).
A few problems with the Cardinals:  
phil in arizona : 9/22/2014 1:39 pm : link
1. The stadium is on the west side, which is pretty trashy for the most part. And that's by Arizona standards.

2. People here aren't use to having a solid team, so maybe they aren't the best at taking things in stride.

3. Beer pricing at the stadium encourages people to drink more. 22 oz bombers are only few bucks more than a 12 oz bud, so they are the best bang for your buck. 16 oz drafts are cheap too.
Cool  
NNJ Tom : 9/22/2014 1:40 pm : link
You go to a football game and an episode of Jerry Springer breaks out.

Matt  
stretch234 : 9/22/2014 1:40 pm : link
The guy in the Dockett jersey is hitting the other guy because he is choking the security guy. He is trying to get him to release his hand from the guys throat
I don't think you need a total ban on alcohol  
jcn56 : 9/22/2014 1:43 pm : link
But they do need to start screening people coming into the building. I'm not talking about the guy who had a couple of beers at the tailgate, I'm talking about the guys who you see barely capable of walking out of the porta-potty before they start making their way in. If you're already shitfaced before you make it to the front door, you should get turned away.

And I thought they cut off alcohol sales in the third quarter. If that's the case, they should make it earlier, and go to greater lengths not to serve people who are already inebriated.
Going to a game is fun  
phil in arizona : 9/22/2014 1:53 pm : link
on special occasions, but getting to every home game is quite a commitment.

If it weren't for the social aspect of meeting my friends at the bar every Sunday, I'd probably do NFL rewind.
The one Jets game I went to  
AmazingJason : 9/22/2014 1:55 pm : link
Tons of drunks everywhere. Had to be extra careful of your surroundings post-game.

But every Giants game I've been to is like being at a Broadway show. Everyone around me was sitting down and quiet throughout most of the game. One time I yelled something out - no obscenities - and someone told me to shut up, he was trying to enjoy the game.
RE:  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/22/2014 2:04 pm : link
In comment 11876222 mamu said:
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Some fans probably get drunk tailgating before the game and aren't really affected by the 2nd half no-sell. Maybe refuse admission to anyone who appears drunk or have breathalyzer checkpoints at the gates run by cops.


The buying of the beer at the games I don't think is the problem.

Think about it, when you are at the game, how many people do you see running to get beer and come back to their seat? It's far less than you see for baseball mainly because of the pace of play. There are no real "lulls" where you can take 10 to 15 minutes during the game to go get drinks. Some do it, but it's not a crazy amount.

I know at MetLife, parking lots are open anywhere from 4 to 5 hours ahead on gamedays. How much liquor can you take down in that period? That's where most of it goes down. By the time you get into the stadium, you are already tanked.
I know a lot of teams use  
mac attack : 9/22/2014 2:10 pm : link
plain clothes cops in the stands to help stop this sort of thing.

Also, I'm not sure why but it seems the most violent fan base outside of Philly is San Fran. Every season there is a fight video out there involving 49er fans. Even the guy at the Dodger/Giants game.
FatMan  
Matt M. : 9/22/2014 2:12 pm : link
I agree with you. I think Eli is going to be one of those athletes who far more people appreciate after he's retired.
it is amazing to me  
upstatenyg : 9/22/2014 2:31 pm : link
how many people on this Board and in general feel the need to non-stop talk about how they won't go to games, or how great their tv is, etc.

this is obviously isolated, and even if happens a few times a year or whatever, it has little to do with whether or not you should attend games, really.

I went yesterday, as I do every week and I saw nothing inappropriate. I was a group of 6 kids and 4 adults, and the children ranged from 5 - 15 years old, and there was nothing but love for everyone, no cursing, no drunks.

The tailgaters next to us were calm, polite and kept to themselves.

Some in Lot E had a bounce castle set up and was letting kids take free jumps.

The Bud Stand where you can get a designated driver bracelet, gave us the 6 kids on our group free coupons for drinks.

Each kid got a "first game attended" certificate from the Giants, they have these stands all over the place where you can get these.

I rode the train home, and while it took a while, it was orderly and everyone was polite.

So if you don't want to go to the games because of something that happened on the upper tier of a game in AZ, something else is wrong with you.
drunk people do stupid things  
IronGiants1973 : 9/22/2014 2:31 pm : link
Avoid stupid situations by staying away from places where there are drunk people.
I hope someone got arrested  
RobCarpenter : 9/22/2014 2:38 pm : link
As in, that guy who chokes the security guy.

Seriously, that video did not make me feel confident about stadium security, they were destroyed.
I feel bad for security.....  
Rick in Annapolis : 9/22/2014 2:45 pm : link
Where were the police? That video is over two minutes long. I'm surprised how few police are at these events if it takes that long.
Modern stadiums all have incredible surviellence.  
WideRight : 9/22/2014 2:47 pm : link
They take pictures of every fan in every seat at every game, and can ID the fan by the ticket purchase or other means.

So the guy in the Gore shirt who was punching the shirtless guy when he was face down at the bottom of the stairs will almost certain be facing assualt charges. Pretty much everyone their will face something.
went to a Giants-Skinz Monday  
Bleedin Blue : 9/22/2014 2:49 pm : link
night game in DC and I swear I will never go to another road game that's not on a Sunday. I was in a Luxury Box and a$$holes were spitting and cursing at my daughter and I. The walk to the car was no picnic either. When you get these Monday night games or Thurs. games and Sun. nights, all the regular fans stay home due to work. Actions like this make you want to forgo going to games, and staying at home, and watching them on TV.
exactly  
Houston : 9/22/2014 3:44 pm : link
After 2 minutes, where the hell was the cavalry? 3 or 4 security guards and that was it ---
Jet games used to be like this  
kentric : 9/22/2014 3:47 pm : link
At least 3-4 times a game you'd hear a big swelling of noice over a section of the stadium. Looking over you'd see like 10-15 people swarming over one another like a shark feeding frenzy. When I was younger I found it awesome.
I don't know  
G.O.B. : 9/22/2014 3:54 pm : link
how the author can write this "At the :45 mark, check out the Cardinals fans in the No. 90 jersey punching someone in the head. The person he was punching was being held" after watching the video.

The guy that gets punched in the face has his hand around the throat of the security guard! 90 probably doesn't need to throw the second punch, but the first comes after trying to get the guy off the guard in the light blue shirt.
Just noticed that  
G.O.B. : 9/22/2014 3:55 pm : link
stretch already pointed that out. He starts off as a peacemaker, I think.
What gets me is the girls/women that got involved  
Blue21 : 9/22/2014 4:24 pm : link
throwing punches.
Another solid reason to stay home on Sundays.  
Knineteen : 9/22/2014 4:41 pm : link
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RE: it is amazing to me  
ed90631 : 9/22/2014 4:42 pm : link
In comment 11876539 upstatenyg said:
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how many people on this Board and in general feel the need to non-stop talk about how they won't go to games, or how great their tv is, etc.

this is obviously isolated, and even if happens a few times a year or whatever, it has little to do with whether or not you should attend games, really.

I went yesterday, as I do every week and I saw nothing inappropriate. I was a group of 6 kids and 4 adults, and the children ranged from 5 - 15 years old, and there was nothing but love for everyone, no cursing, no drunks.

The tailgaters next to us were calm, polite and kept to themselves.

Some in Lot E had a bounce castle set up and was letting kids take free jumps.

The Bud Stand where you can get a designated driver bracelet, gave us the 6 kids on our group free coupons for drinks.

Each kid got a "first game attended" certificate from the Giants, they have these stands all over the place where you can get these.

I rode the train home, and while it took a while, it was orderly and everyone was polite.

So if you don't want to go to the games because of something that happened on the upper tier of a game in AZ, something else is wrong with you.


I had season seats in Giants Stadium for five years in the late seventies. In the forty games I attended I never saw one fight in the stands and maybe a handful of ugly incidents in the parking lot (none of which included punches being thrown).

I moved out west and attended three Giants games in Anaheim. Although everyone seemed well-behaved inside the stadium the parking lot was another story. After one game (94 I beleive) there were at least a dozen brawls in the parking field after the game. At the playoff game (83?)same story.

Are Giants fans better behaved? I think so.
Might want to search youtube  
Pork and Beans : 9/22/2014 4:46 pm : link
plenty of Giants fans acting out the BBI game threads IRL
RE: RE: Redskins fans beating each other up?  
bradshaw44 : 9/22/2014 4:47 pm : link
In comment 11876075 RC02XX said:
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In comment 11876053 Greg from LI said:


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There IS a god, after all!



Haha. I work with a ton of Skins fans, and they are some of the worst football fans to talk to. If it wasn't them hanging their hat on the sweeping of the Giants during the 2011 season (did they forget that the Giants won the Super Bowl that year?), it's them talking about how Cousins is the best QB in the NFC East (I think they said the same thing about RGIII when the season started).

And the shit-talking has already started for this Thursday's game.


Can NOT stand skins fans. They are dumb on so many levels. I was at the bar yesterday here in DC, and it was like the second play of the game and some idiot was saying they needed a pick six right now! WTF? The game just started, great analysis.
RE: same shit yesterday.. though it was kind of tame from other games  
SHO'NUFF : 9/22/2014 9:44 pm : link
In comment 11876332 GMAN4LIFE said:
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guys trying to fuck with a texan fan with his kid. I mean seriously. the texan fan wasnt acting crazy or anything.


you guys ever stand up for a fan of another team just minding his own business with his kid?
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