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Kim Jones: Odell Beckham Out Thursday

TomTom : 9/22/2014 3:05 pm
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The beauty of reports (last wk, this wk) that Odell Beckham is ready to play: Someone, someday will be right. But he won't play Thursday.


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I for one  
Big Blue '56 : 9/22/2014 3:07 pm : link
am shocked.
haha  
UConn4523 : 9/22/2014 3:07 pm : link
of course not.
...  
GP : 9/22/2014 3:08 pm : link
This makes the most sense. Why rush him on a short week and play him? Let's see if he can get some practices in and shoot for Week 5.
Maybe a blessing in disguise?  
Tom from LI : 9/22/2014 3:08 pm : link
Instead of trying to force feed him the ball on Thursday.. we take the extra tie and get him ready for Atlanta?
No surprise.  
Curtis in VA : 9/22/2014 3:08 pm : link
I'm more surprised that LaConfora reported he would.
Playing this Thursday never made sense  
AnnapolisMike : 9/22/2014 3:08 pm : link
Let see if he starts practicing this week, if he does that maybe he will start seeing some action in the following weeks.
It was never a remotely realistic on a short week of practice  
BillT : 9/22/2014 3:09 pm : link
Maybe with an extra day of practice next week it makes more sense.
Has he ever even practiced with the team? How  
Blue21 : 9/22/2014 3:10 pm : link
could he be expected to play?
couldn't believe  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/22/2014 3:10 pm : link
it was reported that he would play. I'm actually happy with this news, I didn't want to see him get rushed back and thrown into the fire for a TNF game. Hopefully he'll be available in 2 weeks.
Yup, even if he's fully cleared, Atlanta makes more sense.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/22/2014 3:12 pm : link
Use the long week to work him in, get his feet wet against the Falcons, and maybe get a meaningful contribution from him against Philly and Dallas.
No point in rushing him back  
Go Terps : 9/22/2014 3:12 pm : link
He probably wouldn't be much help given how much he's practiced. Best case scenario may be 2007 Steve Smith and we see an impact in the second half of the season.
it wasn't really hard to figure out beforehand  
micky : 9/22/2014 3:12 pm : link
That he's out...hadn't practiced in 3 months or so..so he's going to jump into a ga game all the sudden? Ha
and in other news, the sky is blue.  
GMAN4LIFE : 9/22/2014 3:13 pm : link
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I'm disappointed  
pjcas18 : 9/22/2014 3:15 pm : link
and I don't get the "take your time" crowd.

Of course he needs to be healthy before he plays, but he "tweaked" his hamstring 8 weeks ago today.

I guess there was a setback, but that sounds like more than enough time to not consider him being rushed back from his tweaked hamstring.

get healthy and get on the field. I bet TC is frustrated too and isn't saying take your sweet time healing.
Maybe he was benched because of his pouty...  
SB : 9/22/2014 3:15 pm : link
...non-enthusiastic attitude?
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Vin R : 9/22/2014 3:20 pm : link
RE: No surprise.  
Jimmy Googs : 9/22/2014 3:20 pm : link
In comment 11876653 Curtis in VA said:
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I'm more surprised that LaConfora reported he would.


LaConfora had a "setback" with his player reporting...
RE: Maybe he was benched because of his pouty...  
mrvax : 9/22/2014 3:24 pm : link
In comment 11876673 SB said:
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...non-enthusiastic attitude?


Very well possible Coughlin noticed that.
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mattlawson : 9/22/2014 3:29 pm : link
We dont even .......  
Dye Job : 9/22/2014 3:36 pm : link
know what he looks like in a Giant uniform or whether he has even suited up!
Literally, no loss whatsoever.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/22/2014 3:39 pm : link
Guy has even played a single snap yet. Not even in the pre-season. Keep chugging along. If he's ever ready, great. If not, that's fine, too. No biggie.
*hasn't even played  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/22/2014 3:39 pm : link
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Never thought there was a chance he'd play  
bceagle05 : 9/22/2014 3:43 pm : link
even after the report over the weekend. Not sure why LaCanfora made such a big deal out of it. Most NFL fans probably don't even know who Odell Beckham is. I guess they talked him up because Thursday's game is on CBS?
Who is  
chops : 9/22/2014 3:44 pm : link
Odell Beckham?
I think he needs to make it through at least one full practice  
ZogZerg : 9/22/2014 3:53 pm : link
before he can play, right?
Count me in the not-this-year crowd.  
CT Charlie : 9/22/2014 3:57 pm : link
He's a huge investment and he's very good. Even the best-trained speed & power athletes in the world -- Olympic-class sprinters -- don't take chances coming back from hamstring injuries.
i don't want him suiting up  
odunde : 9/22/2014 3:57 pm : link
until he is 100% healthy. And even then, give it another week to be safe. BUT is there any reason we are giving this report any more credence than the one last week saying he would play? It is one report, and is barely coherent....
FWIW, he's pretty awesome in Madden  
BeerFridge : 9/22/2014 3:58 pm : link
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RE: We dont even .......  
Vin R : 9/22/2014 4:00 pm : link
In comment 11876731 Dye Job said:
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know what he looks like in a Giant uniform or whether he has even suited up!


Lets see Odell Beckham AFTER they bye-week  
SGMen : 9/22/2014 4:00 pm : link
Lets see him at 100%.

Lets get to 2-2 versus Washington this Thursday, get out of the game healthy.
RE: No point in rushing him back  
PeterS : 9/22/2014 4:01 pm : link
In comment 11876661 Go Terps said:
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He probably wouldn't be much help given how much he's practiced. Best case scenario may be 2007 Steve Smith and we see an impact in the second half of the season.

I agree - beneficial to sit, watch and learn. It's a longgggg season so he might as well get healthy for it.
Short week did not make sense  
Reale01 : 9/22/2014 4:06 pm : link
He will have 10 days to get ready for his first game. That makes a lot more sense to me.

I was excited, but this doesn't surprise. I don't see it as a setback.
I've had a feeling about this kid since we picked him  
mac attack : 9/22/2014 4:06 pm : link
Talented as he may be, he just strikes me as a "me" guy and a workout warrior who will spend more time on the stationary bike than on the field. I hope I'm wrong but I really just haven't felt good about OBJ at all.
based on what?  
Headhunter : 9/22/2014 4:12 pm : link
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RE: I've had a feeling about this kid since we picked him  
odunde : 9/22/2014 4:13 pm : link
In comment 11876814 mac attack said:
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Talented as he may be, he just strikes me as a "me" guy and a workout warrior who will spend more time on the stationary bike than on the field. I hope I'm wrong but I really just haven't felt good about OBJ at all.


really? You are entitled to your feelings, but this conjecture is just silly to express at this point. Yes, the lingering injury is disappointing, but Beckham has done nothing to imply he might be a "me" player or constantly injured.
Send Odell ...  
Mike in Raleigh : 9/22/2014 4:32 pm : link
to that dr. who worked on Tiki's hammy's !!!! PLEASE !!!! ;)
I love everyone's attitude towards this news..  
prdave73 : 9/22/2014 4:36 pm : link
Had the Giants lost this weekend, oh hell no!! Wtf is wrong with this guy?! This team needs this guy bad!! IMO I'm not happy with the news, and I am wondering when this guy will ever suit up?? The giants right everybody they can get to help this offense continue to improve.
Think He  
TMS : 9/22/2014 4:38 pm : link
practices with the team, runs routes etc. on a limited basis , a little more each day. We have two weeks to get him ready to go against Atlanta. He needs some contact before then with pads etc.
Odell who?  
WideRight : 9/22/2014 5:20 pm : link
I don't expect to see him before his contract year.
typical chick  
oipolloi : 9/22/2014 5:22 pm : link
used gooey Nina lyrics when Marshall Crenshaw would have been way more appropriate


Someday, Someway


not Someday, Someone--we already know it is OB not some anonymous "someone."
How Many Routes  
Bernie : 9/22/2014 5:22 pm : link
has he actually run with Eli as his QB? If my math is correct he has missed 8 weeks of practice. His only value this year may be as a punt returner. Anything more is gravy.
RE: How Many Routes  
River Mike : 9/22/2014 5:33 pm : link
In comment 11876968 Bernie said:
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has he actually run with Eli as his QB? If my math is correct he has missed 8 weeks of practice. His only value this year may be as a punt returner. Anything more is gravy.


He caught a bunch of passes from Eli before he was even drafted. That said, he hasn't run the routes of this offense yet
LOL  
shabu : 9/22/2014 6:26 pm : link
what else to do other than LOL.

Makes me wonder if this is really a hamstring ? Seems long time no ?
shabu  
NewBlue : 9/22/2014 6:28 pm : link
Agreed
RE: I've had a feeling about this kid since we picked him  
Simms11 : 9/22/2014 7:24 pm : link
In comment 11876814 mac attack said:
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Talented as he may be, he just strikes me as a "me" guy and a workout warrior who will spend more time on the stationary bike than on the field. I hope I'm wrong but I really just haven't felt good about OBJ at all.


What would give you such an impression?! He never missed a game in college to injury and is a good guy. You also want a receiver with some swagger. Nothing wrong with that at all. Would be nice to bring some speed and ability to make plays to this offense. Cruz needs the help and Beckham just needs time to get conditioned and acclimated. I think we'll see him in a few weeks. Hopefully against Atlanta.
This is the longest hamstring injury in history...  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 9/22/2014 7:46 pm : link
his body could have grown a new hamstring by now. I think he locked himself in the bathroom and the team still cannot figure out how to unlock the door.
Hamstring  
Ricoh_GR : 9/22/2014 11:08 pm : link
injuries come in a variety of flavors and degrees of damage. We're talking about a muscle group that extends from the pelvis/hip to the knee (where the hammy is more tendon than muscle). Most of us have pulled up lame from a garden-variety pulled hamstring. A few days later and we're ok. Safe to assume his injury is more severe...perhaps a tear at the distal area (knee) or perhaps an avulsion injury, where the tear is at the hip and tears a small part of the bone away.
Takes time to heal. Sux.
RE: This is the longest hamstring injury in history...  
David in LA : 9/23/2014 2:59 am : link
In comment 11877141 EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) said:
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his body could have grown a new hamstring by now. I think he locked himself in the bathroom and the team still cannot figure out how to unlock the door.


So the concept of re-aggravating a hamstring must be completely foreign to you.
Ricoh_GR: Your assumption is only supported by his long recovery.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/23/2014 5:46 am : link
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Safe to assume his injury is more severe...perhaps a tear at the distal area (knee) or perhaps an avulsion injury, where the tear is at the hip and tears a small part of the bone away.
Well, maybe. As far as I can recall, none of the beat reporters ever mentioned surgical options, or even x-rays. Beckham had an MRI in late July, which was widely reported to have shown no tear. I have no idea whether those reports were accurate, or how reliable an MRI is in detecting muscle damage. We do know that he tried to join practice three weeks later, and wound up sidelined again with "soreness".

It's possible that his brief foray onto the practice field on August 19th caused serious damage, or that the previous injury was misdiagnosed. That's pure speculation. If we're going to make assumptions, the most reasonable one is that Beckham suffered something less severe than what you're describing, and that the Giants have proceeded with extreme caution after Beckham's first, unsuccessful attempt to join practice.
Adele will  
Some Fan : 9/23/2014 6:48 am : link
play someday
I love these threads  
Essex : 9/23/2014 8:28 am : link
they always devolve into one side saying "how the heck can a guy be out this long for a hamstring" and the other side saying "you don't know what you are talking about, it takes this long to fully heal and that hamstrings are complicated that often get reinjured"

the irony is that both sides are right. hamstrings often do get reinjured and they take some time to heal, but it should not take two months. if you tear your hamstring, you should be back in a month.
I can promise most here  
mrvax : 9/23/2014 8:53 am : link
that when Beckham is finally healthy and on the field, Victor Cruz is going to be unreal. Cruz is just waiting, waiting, ...

Defenses will be fvcked.
RE: LOL  
Jimmy Googs : 9/23/2014 9:11 am : link
In comment 11877053 shabu said:
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what else to do other than LOL.

Makes me wonder if this is really a hamstring ? Seems long time no ?



You think maybe he got knocked up and just isn't showing yet?
If he couldn't  
Metnut : 9/23/2014 9:29 am : link
play last Sunday, there's no point in rushing him to play a few days later on Thursday night. Let him have the long week to start practicing and let the coaching staff have some time to get him into the gameplan.

I was busy out of town all last week...what happened to Jernigan?  
Jimmy Googs : 9/23/2014 9:33 am : link
is he done?
RE: I was busy out of town all last week...what happened to Jernigan?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/23/2014 9:33 am : link
In comment 11877877 Jimmy Googs said:
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is he done?


Lis Franc injury. Season-ending IR.
Thanks TTH. Jeez - we still got a lot of guys  
Jimmy Googs : 9/23/2014 9:41 am : link
that haven't developed enough (due to production, injuries, whatever) to keep sticking on this team.

Should be plenty of roster turnover again, even if the season ends well.
I wonder if JJ gets a second contract.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/23/2014 9:43 am : link
I think this is his last season with the team.
JJ may very well be done. Took too long to  
Jimmy Googs : 9/23/2014 9:59 am : link
get on the field. Had a chance this season to show he could produce and was worth keeping, and now is done. Doesn't return punts. Doesn't return KOs much better either.

He makes guys like Preston Parker stick on the roster.
RE: I love everyone's attitude towards this news..  
JCN82 : 9/23/2014 10:41 pm : link
In comment 11876867 prdave73 said:
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Had the Giants lost this weekend, oh hell no!! Wtf is wrong with this guy?! This team needs this guy bad!! IMO I'm not happy with the news, and I am wondering when this guy will ever suit up?? The giants right everybody they can get to help this offense continue to improve.


I kind of agree - while rushing him into a game is never the best idea, I don't think we would really be rushing him when we have let him rest and heal up all pre-season and through week 3. If we lose this game, and drop to 1-3 and 0-1 in the division that's a huge blow, and large drop from 2-2 (1-0). If we were sitting at 2-1 right now I think it could be different and, and if we could have got out of our own way Vs. AZ than we just might have the luxury of sitting a healthy ODBeck to give him more practice/learning time, but we need to win this game and if he's healthy enough to play, and wants to play - let's get him going at least on a limited snap count basis to at least make the defense have to plan for a guy that they have no real tape footage to study on him other than his college days. And don't really have a great way to work on preparing for him.
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