a lot less time on the play clock than in the first two games. Is this significant? It seems counter-productive to the WCO, but it seemed to work for Eli against the Texans. Will he continue to do it against the Skins?
than with when he's at the line ready to snap it, and the latter seems to be comfortably earlier than at times in the past. Those delay penalties were exasperating.
True I think. That way you can still have good time of possession stats but prevent substitution. You can go quickly if you have the right play or the defense is not set and take your time if you need to change the play or just want to run clock.
Last year we cam to the line with 10 seconds and there was not time to adjust if the defense changed with less than 5 seconds left.
quickly (and no huddle) I thought was the point, so the defense can't change personnel, not actually snapping the ball quickly.
Isn't that true?
Correct, many people (including most folks on BBI) confuse a "no-huddle" offense with a "hurry-up" offense. Both have a no-huddle, line-up to the line quickly approach but the former is to prevent defensive substitutions and not necessarily get a play off quickly where as the latter is to get to the line and run another play as soon as possible (i.e. what you see in an two-minute drill).
The Giants want Eli to let the playclock run down most of the time. As long as he doesn't let it run down to 0, it should be of no concern.
It may be to loud in DC to make many changes at the line, but at least the noise should keep Reuben Randle from falling asleep.
I think we will see the hand signals again like in the first game (also away game). Hopefully the receivers have them down.
On a somewhat related note. I loved the quick snap that let Rashad run it in for 6. We couldn't power our way in so we went 4 wide (if memory serves) to get them thinking. They were probably also waiting for Eli to go through his sight adjustments. They were definitely caught off guard.
thinking he'd never get the play off on time, but he seemed to be fully aware of the clock. I also think that at times he wants the defense to think that he's changing the play when in fact he isn't.
running down in past years missed the point and the difference between that offense and teh new one. the new one isn't intended to snap the ball more quickly necessarily, it is intended to keep the defense from substituting.
from a tactical edge, there is little difference between snapping the ball just before zero or snapping it with several seconds left - the advantage is a personnel one.
I never quite understood why people had issues with the snap coming late in the play clock as the idea that defenders can time the snap is a myth that has been debunked many times. The one advantage is that we are having fewer delays - so that is an improvement.
running down in past years missed the point and the difference between that offense and teh new one. the new one isn't intended to snap the ball more quickly necessarily, it is intended to keep the defense from substituting.
from a tactical edge, there is little difference between snapping the ball just before zero or snapping it with several seconds left - the advantage is a personnel one.
I never quite understood why people had issues with the snap coming late in the play clock as the idea that defenders can time the snap is a myth that has been debunked many times. The one advantage is that we are having fewer delays - so that is an improvement.
The bad thing about snapping just before zero all the time is the defense can just take off because they know when the snap is coming i prefer a few seconds left to slow their reaction a bit
RE: RE: People who complained about the playclock..
running down in past years missed the point and the difference between that offense and teh new one. the new one isn't intended to snap the ball more quickly necessarily, it is intended to keep the defense from substituting.
from a tactical edge, there is little difference between snapping the ball just before zero or snapping it with several seconds left - the advantage is a personnel one.
I never quite understood why people had issues with the snap coming late in the play clock as the idea that defenders can time the snap is a myth that has been debunked many times. The one advantage is that we are having fewer delays - so that is an improvement.
The bad thing about snapping just before zero all the time is the defense can just take off because they know when the snap is coming i prefer a few seconds left to slow their reaction a bit
Not to mention the delay of game penalties and the 'gosh darn it' Eli face.
Isn't that true?
Last year we cam to the line with 10 seconds and there was not time to adjust if the defense changed with less than 5 seconds left.
Isn't that true?
Correct, many people (including most folks on BBI) confuse a "no-huddle" offense with a "hurry-up" offense. Both have a no-huddle, line-up to the line quickly approach but the former is to prevent defensive substitutions and not necessarily get a play off quickly where as the latter is to get to the line and run another play as soon as possible (i.e. what you see in an two-minute drill).
The Giants want Eli to let the playclock run down most of the time. As long as he doesn't let it run down to 0, it should be of no concern.
Your reading too much into it.
I think we will see the hand signals again like in the first game (also away game). Hopefully the receivers have them down.
On a somewhat related note. I loved the quick snap that let Rashad run it in for 6. We couldn't power our way in so we went 4 wide (if memory serves) to get them thinking. They were probably also waiting for Eli to go through his sight adjustments. They were definitely caught off guard.
You'd imagine after two stops, third down is a pass, so they brought in their nickel package. Eli sees the lack of beef and hands it to Jennings.
Not the same as the audible to Tiki all those years ago, but close enough.
The play calling has been a breath of fresh air. The media discussing timing patterns like it was just discovered is a little Boring, however.
from a tactical edge, there is little difference between snapping the ball just before zero or snapping it with several seconds left - the advantage is a personnel one.
I never quite understood why people had issues with the snap coming late in the play clock as the idea that defenders can time the snap is a myth that has been debunked many times. The one advantage is that we are having fewer delays - so that is an improvement.
from a tactical edge, there is little difference between snapping the ball just before zero or snapping it with several seconds left - the advantage is a personnel one.
I never quite understood why people had issues with the snap coming late in the play clock as the idea that defenders can time the snap is a myth that has been debunked many times. The one advantage is that we are having fewer delays - so that is an improvement.
The bad thing about snapping just before zero all the time is the defense can just take off because they know when the snap is coming i prefer a few seconds left to slow their reaction a bit
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running down in past years missed the point and the difference between that offense and teh new one. the new one isn't intended to snap the ball more quickly necessarily, it is intended to keep the defense from substituting.
from a tactical edge, there is little difference between snapping the ball just before zero or snapping it with several seconds left - the advantage is a personnel one.
I never quite understood why people had issues with the snap coming late in the play clock as the idea that defenders can time the snap is a myth that has been debunked many times. The one advantage is that we are having fewer delays - so that is an improvement.
The bad thing about snapping just before zero all the time is the defense can just take off because they know when the snap is coming i prefer a few seconds left to slow their reaction a bit
Not to mention the delay of game penalties and the 'gosh darn it' Eli face.