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NFT: Jeter's farewell

Dunedin81 : 9/23/2014 4:13 pm
The narrative has turned a bit in the last couple weeks, with people like Ken Davidoff and Jon Heyman bitching at the guy for everything from partaking in the Steiner Sports-ification of his farewell to his spot in the lineup. And still the crowds keep coming. To me it's a bookend on a 20-year chapter in Yankee history. And the fact that the Yankees (with Jeter's help) are trying to squeeze every penny out of it they can may be lamentable but it is sports today. The sportswriters can preen and bitch all they want but Jeter was the face of the franchise without causing it embarrassment for two decades. Nobody else can say that. He had a huge role in each of those rings, and in keeping them competitive year in and year out for his entire career.

As for the on-field play, until very recently Jeter's position near the top of the lineup was not as absurd as people claimed. Nobody on the team was hitting, his OBP was top 3 or so on the team until his August. And by the time he clearly hit the skids and they had a viable alternative in Prado they were as much in "sell tickets" mode as they were trying to make up the lengthy gap in the standings. And whatever improvement Drew or Brendan Ryan gave you defensively at SS, neither was hitting as well as Jeter in all but the worst of his slump.

Right now Jeter is doing what he is supposed to do. He is going out there, getting his 4-5 ABs, and moving a ton of merchandise and tickets. Jeter is not the reason they're going to sit October out, the fact that he was their best hitting infielder this season is.
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Hearing rumors that if it rains enough to cancel Thursday's game,  
Mad Mike : 9/23/2014 4:43 pm : link
he's coming back next year so he can have a legitimate final game in Yankee Stadium.
One thing I don't like  
Matt M. : 9/23/2014 4:43 pm : link
is Jeter kind of complained (even if jokingly) about Steiner people taking everything from his locker every day. Well, then don't sign on with them to do so if you want to hold on to your keepsakes.
Jeter  
MookGiants : 9/23/2014 4:52 pm : link
under no circumstances was the Yankees best hitting infielder.

Teixeira even with his .220 average was still a decent bit better. Jeter had as empty of a .250 average as you'll ever see
Random memory  
CRinCA : 9/23/2014 4:57 pm : link
Did a tour of the "old" Yankee stadium a few years back. Jeter was the only player with 2 lockers. One for him, one for his fan mail. Crazy.
Jeter is 40 years-old and realizes he needs to retire.  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 9/23/2014 4:59 pm : link
Teixiera is 34, making 60% more than Jeter, and is an average AL hitter this season. I hope he retires too.
RE: Jeter is 40 years-old and realizes he needs to retire.  
RasputinPrime : 9/23/2014 5:15 pm : link
In comment 11878685 Shockeyisthebest80 said:
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Teixiera is 34, making 60% more than Jeter, and is an average AL hitter this season. I hope he retires too.


Amen. AND, I hate brown bat barrels.

Agreed with the OP.
The one thing that tipped me in favor of this  
ed90631 : 9/23/2014 5:34 pm : link
"Jeter farewell tour" was the fact that he has collected a bucketfull of money for his charitable foundation.

Jeter's the man. It's time though.  
kmed : 9/23/2014 5:49 pm : link
Anyone that isn't a hater knows that jeter wasn't the problem with this team for the majority of the season. He wasn't close to what he used to be, but he was fine up til August. He fell off a cliff in August though and it's clearly time for him to hang em up. Sad to see the end of an era.
I guess the #2 patches on the baseball caps  
Bake54 : 9/23/2014 5:52 pm : link
and the historic Jeter moments tacked onto the bases were a bit over the top for me. I did like the Gatorade spot. That was nice.
Most phillies fans probably  
kmed : 9/23/2014 5:54 pm : link
didn't appreciate the tour.
why  
Bake54 : 9/23/2014 6:24 pm : link
have you asked them?
Oh, you're only a Phillies fan  
kmed : 9/23/2014 6:27 pm : link
when they win?
keep drinking the kool aid kmed  
Bake54 : 9/23/2014 6:35 pm : link
it fits you well.
I'm not a Yankee fan, so I haven't seen what was going on,  
Ira : 9/23/2014 6:51 pm : link
but I think Jeter deserves all of the recognition he gets. His play and his character have been a great plus to the game of baseball.
Teix was decent through June 1...  
Dunedin81 : 9/23/2014 6:55 pm : link
serviceable through July 1, so that skews his season stats. Since July 1 he has been absolute dogshit, and that is with no positional premium (albeit with a very good glove at that position) and station to station running. I'm not sure he's better than Jeter.
So who are Yankee fans  
buford : 9/23/2014 7:10 pm : link
going to complain about next year?
....  
yankees78 : 9/23/2014 7:18 pm : link
Well..A-Rod will be back next yr.
YAY ROD
Olbermann had an insufferable screed on the subject...  
Dunedin81 : 9/23/2014 10:54 pm : link
which really illustrates the disconnect. This farewell tour, hokey and over the top as it might be, isn't about the sportswriters and those who think that baseball can be boiled down to a stat sheet (or a history book, for that matter). It's about a couple generations of fans for whom Jeter is as iconic as the Mick and DiMaggio and Berra were for their generations. And it isn't just a career that's coming to an end, it's the last vestige of one of the most successful dynasties in Yankee - and baseball - history. If you can't see past catchphrases and Steiner Sports and understand why fans are excited to be a part of this, even if it's to see a .250 hitter playing a below average shortstop, I've got nothing for you.
It's  
mitch300 : 9/23/2014 11:44 pm : link
Also the end of hearingBob Sheppard anymore.
This is where Keith O gets in trouble  
dpinzow : 9/24/2014 12:17 am : link
sometimes he makes sense but that long speech had not a single bit of sense attached to it. Of course Jeter isn't the best player in baseball history, but he's one of the greatest players of his era with 5 championships, so of course he's going to get all kinds of publicity when he retires
I'm not even the biggest Jeter fan,  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/24/2014 12:21 am : link
but what were you expecting from Olbermann? Something intelligent? Fat chance. Guy is a gump.
Just wait until Keith O gets old  
Dave in PA : 9/24/2014 12:30 am : link
imagine how grumpy he'll be then
Keith O was right..  
Davisian : 9/24/2014 12:42 am : link
In his usual insufferable way.

Jeter just hasn't been the kind of player who's numbers scream for a league wide hummer, like Mo's did.

Great player, iconic Yankee and the captain of a dynasty.


But some of this shit has been out of control..


I've very much enjoyed his career, his way of doing business and the era he represented. But he wasn't some player who transcended the sport.

RE: I'm not even the biggest Jeter fan,  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/24/2014 1:14 am : link
In comment 11879090 Dave in Hoboken said:
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but what were you expecting from Olbermann? Something intelligent? Fat chance. Guy is a gump.


He may be an egomaniac and sometimes insufferable, but he is far from a "gump." He is very eloquent and intelligent-- he just never lets the viewer forget it.

I understand where Olbermann is coming from. He is a baseball fanatic and historian and thinks that the attention to and idolizing of Jeter gives short shrift to the legends of the past who were more dominant in their eras.

Olbermann isn't wrong regarding most of his analysis about Jeter, but by going for the jugular, he misses the bigger picture about what Jeter means to a lot of Yankees fans-- and to many baseball fans who view him as a bright spot during an era of many tarnished superstars.
Mariano Rivera is a tough act to follow.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/24/2014 4:16 am : link
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RE: Keith O was right..  
Dunedin81 : 9/24/2014 7:13 am : link
In comment 11879095 Davisian said:
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In his usual insufferable way.

Jeter just hasn't been the kind of player who's numbers scream for a league wide hummer, like Mo's did.

Great player, iconic Yankee and the captain of a dynasty.


But some of this shit has been out of control..


I've very much enjoyed his career, his way of doing business and the era he represented. But he wasn't some player who transcended the sport.


I love Mo, but in a given year he faced what, 250 batters? He played defense for one inning a game. Nobody was as classy and as understated as he was, nor as dominant in his role, but that role is not the same as playing probably the 2nd most important position on the diamond and being a top of the order bat for two decades.
Jeter is 6th in hits, 9th in runs, Yankee all time leader  
Del Shofner : 9/24/2014 7:58 am : link
in lots of categories, including doubles. And not just a "compiler" since the teams were competitive all the way. I think he's played one game in his career when the Yanks weren't in playoff contention. (There may be a couple more now.) I have no problem putting him in the pantheon.
Keith O is neurotic, egotistical, impossible to work for/ with  
Headhunter : 9/24/2014 8:09 am : link
he is also the best since Howard Cosell going after sacred cows in sports. No one comes close to him
I think Keith O and other media should just let go.  
Ira : 9/24/2014 8:17 am : link
Jeter's an icon and fans want to show their appreciation.
Dunedin81: I didn't mean Rivera was a better or more valuable player.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/24/2014 8:26 am : link
Actually, I tend toward the view that the difference between a great closer and a pretty good one probably isn't worth an extra $15MM per year.

I see two basic reasons why Rivera's farewell tour came off so much better than Jeter's:
1) It came first.
2) Rivera is revered as much for his good works off the field as for his performance on it.

Fairly or not, Jeter hasn't made the same impression outside the lines, aside from his dating habits. Beyond the Yankee fan base, Jeter is mostly respected (aside from a minority of contrarian, WAR-stat-quoting grumps); Rivera is loved, even by lots of people who are completely indifferent to the Yankees, or to baseball itself.
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