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McNally's_Nuts : 9/23/2014 9:42 pm
I had no idea of this and started to google it and apparently, one of the advisors for the Brooklyn Bolts (their are 4 teams: Brooklyn, Boston, Omaha and Miami) is none other than Rod Rust.

I'm only 25 so I don't recall Mr. Rust and he who shall remain nameless but I thought some of you older guys might get a kick outta this.

Guess some guys just can't get rid of the itch to coach/be around football, no matter how bad it is.

Mr Read and React  
spike : 9/23/2014 9:59 pm : link
from the 90s Giants
Remember when the league tried to develop minor league football  
Jupiter : 9/23/2014 10:00 pm : link
to act as a feeder program?

I think it was in the late 1960s and the Giants brought in a QB named Kennedy (Tom?).
tom kennedy  
Edward in Duckland : 9/23/2014 10:03 pm : link
threw a lot of knuckleballs; the qb father of joe pisarcek
tom kennedy  
Edward in Duckland : 9/23/2014 10:03 pm : link
threw a lot of knuckleballs; the qb father of joe pisarcek
Bayside Raiders  
regulator : 9/23/2014 11:03 pm : link
?
I recall a revolt  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/24/2014 12:04 am : link
by the 1992 Defense against his crappy schemes

Pepper said they would call their own defenses

tri state  
hankb1126 : 9/24/2014 12:06 am : link
i used to play for the brooklyn mariners and queens chiefs in tri state semi pro league ib the 70's and 80's
Brooklyn was in the Contiental Football League  
Defenderdawg : 9/24/2014 9:51 am : link
In 1966, the team was run by Andy Robustelli...the Giants considered signing Terry Baker but purchased Kennedy's contract for $20,000.

More about the Contiental League here:
Link - ( New Window )
The  
DanMetroMan : 9/24/2014 9:56 am : link
new league is giving out some package deals



One Football Game Ticket
One Team Baseball Cap and One $7 Food Voucher
Choice of Two Game Dates
Be the First to See the Bolts In Their Inaugural Season!

Kicking off their inaugural season this October, the Brooklyn Bolts are bringing the hard-nosed Fall Experimental Football League to Coney Island. Following the same rules as the pros, this team will suit up in black and gold inside MCU Park against three other teams in the FXFL -- the Florida Blacktips, Omaha Mammoths, and Boston Brawlers. Use this deal to get your family to one of these exciting games and enjoy the concessions included the package as you root for Brooklyn's newest home team.

$35 ($60 value) for one ticket package, including:
• One ticket valid for October 15 or November 7
• One team baseball cap
• One $7 food voucher
Wow  
DanMetroMan : 9/24/2014 9:58 am : link
on the field DURING the game? lol



Only 200 Black & Gold Club Seats Available (Reserve Today!)
Access to the field pre-game as well as DURING the game.
Also includes a Lightning Level Seat.
Pre-game tailgate with food and soft drinks through half time.
Access to Wine Drives & Short Hops Sports Bar for mixed drinks, wine, and more.
Meet the Player Function.
FREE PARKING (One per account. One Additional pass for every two purchased over four).
Huh?  
Gman11 : 9/24/2014 11:29 am : link
Quote:
Fall Experimental Football League to Coney Island. Following the same rules as the pros,


How could it be experimental, but follow the same rules?
brooklyn dodgers  
hankb1126 : 9/24/2014 12:05 pm : link
there was also a brooklyn dodger and NY yankee football teams in the league with cleveland browns in the 40's giants got most of the players from those teams when that league either folded or was absorbed into nfl
The Yankees were in the AAFC  
Defenderdawg : 9/24/2014 1:47 pm : link
It wasn't supposed to be but somehow the Giants got the best players from the Yankees when the AAFC folded:

1-18-1950
When representatives of the two New York teams could not agree on the six players to be transferred, NFL comissioner Bert Bell drew names from a hat...the six players assigned to the Giants were Ends Otto Schnellbacher, Dan Garza, Backs Harman Rowe and Tom Landry, Tackle Arnie Weinmeister and Guard John Mastrangelo...the remaining NY Yankees players were to be transferred to the New York Bulldogs.

Meanwhile the Giants drove their fellow NFL compatriots then called the Bulldogs to insolvency by controlling the best stadium dates, having to pay fees, ect.
RE: The Yankees were in the AAFC  
truebluelarry : 9/24/2014 3:17 pm : link
In comment 11879939 Defenderdawg said:
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Meanwhile the Giants drove their fellow NFL compatriots then called the Bulldogs to insolvency by controlling the best stadium dates, having to pay fees, ect.


John Mara was allowed - even encouraged in a way - to to this by NFL PResident Joe Carr. One of the unintended consequences from the fallout of the first AFL after 1926 was the new franchise charter granted to the Brooklyn Lions. Mara gave them a loan during the season to keep them afloat (in attempt to keep C.C. Pyle putting another team in Ebbets Field) which they defaulted on when the franchise and league both folded.

To help recoup his money, Mara was granted the Brooklyn charter to Mara to lease to any team that wanted to play within the five boroughs. These teams would include the New York Yankees (1927-28), Staten Island Stapeltons (1929-32), Brooklyn Dodgers/Tigers (1930-44) and New York Bulldogs/Yanks (1949-51).

One of the stipulations of the charter was the Giants had first choice of home dates and were able to put limitations of conflicting home dates. Those stipulations were relaxed for the Brooklyn and Staten Island teams, but were strictly enforced against the teams playing in Yankee Stadium, as it was within walking distance of the Polo Grounds.

The New York Yanks moved in 1952 and spent one season as the Dallas Texans. They had no luck there either. The owners abandoned the team halfway through the season and the NFL took the franchise over. During the offseason the charter was sold and the franchise was reborn in Baltimore as the new Colts.
Also, the Brooklyn Tigers merged with the Boston Yanks  
truebluelarry : 9/24/2014 3:22 pm : link
before the 1949 move to New York. So there is actually a lineage of both those New York franchises woven into the early Colts.
Larry it has always been hard for me to differentiate  
Defenderdawg : 9/24/2014 5:20 pm : link
Between Mara's smart decisions and some decisions that are brilliant in the calculating Sam Pollock sort of way (the Canadiens GM who set up NHL expansion with an eye toward benefitting Montreal).

The alternate explanation to the dispersal of the AAFC Yankees players is that Ted Collins failed to show and as a result Commissioner Bert Bell made the Bulldogs selections for Collins...advantage Mara...

The NY territorial rights may have been good for the NFL originally but even without Collins wild spending ways the indemnity he had to pay ( I've heard it was $200,000) and the totally unattractive dates he had for home games were losers in and of themselves...

So whether being smart, fortunate or shrewd it all went Mara's way.
RE: tri state  
Semipro Lineman : 9/24/2014 5:40 pm : link
In comment 11879083 hankb1126 said:
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i used to play for the brooklyn mariners and queens chiefs in tri state semi pro league ib the 70's and 80's


Since I have always played against the Mariners, I hate you for no reason
There was probably some resentment from both  
truebluelarry : 9/25/2014 8:04 am : link
Mara and Bell when Collins merged with the New York Yankees of the AAFC.

That move cost Elmer Layden his position as President of the NFL and Bell's installment as the first commissioner. Plus, Mara had a personal dislike for Dan Topping who owned the Yankees.
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