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I don't get the Redskins love/confidence

JOrthman : 9/25/2014 12:09 am
I've been watching all the shows picking the Skins to win, listening to all the analysis, reading the message boards, etc...And I don't get all the love their getting. I get the home field advantage on a short week, but they are coming into this game very beat up and nothing I've seen watching them has really impressed me. I understanding people picking them, but it's that EVERYONE seems to have them winning and winning easily.
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RE: Drew Stanton carved the Jints defense up, Kirk Cousins is a  
PEEJ : 9/25/2014 12:33 pm : link
In comment 11881213 redthumper32 said:
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better qb with better wr's, the foreskins have a better run game, and their front 7 is very good, so why would they not pick them to win.


Carved up ? Stanton vs Giants - 14 of 29 for 167 yards
The only way I see the Giants losing is  
BigBluePrestige : 9/25/2014 12:39 pm : link
if they fumble the football more than once.
Disrespect for Giants?  
Reale01 : 9/25/2014 12:47 pm : link
The Giants laid a steaming turn on national television to open the season. Followed it with a give-away loss to a backup QB and then beat a running team at home who was missing their best running back.

We have not "earned" anything. I am not convinced that the skins are that good, but if we lay another turd on national TV it will be a long time before the Giants get or deserve any respect.

In the past we have tended to stay back and play coverage against backup QBs. We will lose if we do that tonight.
threads like these always scare me  
santacruzom : 9/25/2014 1:08 pm : link
When we attack the media for not giving us enough credit, the media is often validated a few hours later.
This really has nothing to do with the media giving us credit or not  
JOrthman : 9/25/2014 1:13 pm : link
This has more to do with, my belief, the media is giving them TOO much credit. This has nothing to do with respekt or whatever hipster way we want to put it. I'd agree with the betting line and calling it even, but don't understand how everything I've seen has been onesided.
RE: Drew Stanton carved the Jints defense up, Kirk Cousins is a  
weaverpsu : 9/25/2014 3:01 pm : link
In comment 11881213 redthumper32 said:
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better qb with better wr's, the foreskins have a better run game, and their front 7 is very good, so why would they not pick them to win.


Wtf? Carved up? Lol.
Giants 24-20
Yeah Baby!  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/25/2014 3:04 pm : link
Go GiantsSSS!

The GiANTs Wants Some
RedSkins on the HalfShell!!
Giants rarely carve up poor defenses  
mamamia : 9/25/2014 4:16 pm : link
at least the Skins do that.
This isn't close
RE: This really has nothing to do with the media giving us credit or not  
vibe4giants : 9/25/2014 4:24 pm : link
In comment 11881328 JOrthman said:
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This has more to do with, my belief, the media is giving them TOO much credit. This has nothing to do with respekt or whatever hipster way we want to put it. I'd agree with the betting line and calling it even, but don't understand how everything I've seen has been onesided.


Coming on the heels of your 'Did we even play yesterday?' thread it feels like too much concern over what other people think of the Giants. And coming off the Giants best performance in something like two seasons, it seems early to be worrying about the Giants getting enough credit for that one performance.

It's two 1-2 teams playing on a short week. People are picking the home team. It's not unreasonable. If the Giants lose tonight, it's a safe bet that no one's going to start a thread 'Well, the pundits sure got this one right!'

So, maybe, let's just hold fire until the Giants have accomplished something more than a one game winning streak before we're worrying that they're not getting enough love from non-Giants fans.
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BrettNYG10 : 9/25/2014 4:29 pm : link
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"If the Giants lose tonight, it's a safe bet that no one's going to start a thread 'Well, the pundits sure got this one right!'


I live to prove you wrong.
RE: RE: This really has nothing to do with the media giving us credit or not  
JOrthman : 9/25/2014 4:43 pm : link
In comment 11881635 vibe4giants said:
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In comment 11881328 JOrthman said:


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This has more to do with, my belief, the media is giving them TOO much credit. This has nothing to do with respekt or whatever hipster way we want to put it. I'd agree with the betting line and calling it even, but don't understand how everything I've seen has been onesided.



Coming on the heels of your 'Did we even play yesterday?' thread it feels like too much concern over what other people think of the Giants. And coming off the Giants best performance in something like two seasons, it seems early to be worrying about the Giants getting enough credit for that one performance.

It's two 1-2 teams playing on a short week. People are picking the home team. It's not unreasonable. If the Giants lose tonight, it's a safe bet that no one's going to start a thread 'Well, the pundits sure got this one right!'

So, maybe, let's just hold fire until the Giants have accomplished something more than a one game winning streak before we're worrying that they're not getting enough love from non-Giants fans.


Your extrapolating my overall theme or opinion by combining two seperate threads on two completely different topics. One was on the previous game and this is on the upcoming one. Did you read what I wrote in the threads or just the titles of each.

If you had read this thread at least you'd know I've stated multiple times I have no problem with who any picks to win. I'm not going to go further then that, because I've already done that in multiple posts.
As I've perused the interwebs today...  
bradshaw44 : 9/25/2014 4:44 pm : link
It does appear a majority are going with the skins.
For those that bothered to read the posts  
JOrthman : 9/25/2014 4:44 pm : link
I've said several times it has nothing to do with who was picked to win.
Redskins Radio is expecting 5 sacks of Eli tonight  
Bramton1 : 9/25/2014 4:45 pm : link
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It all comes down to the play of both  
chopperhatch : 9/25/2014 5:10 pm : link
Of our lines...IT ALWAYS DOES.

If the Giants OL takes another step forward opening up holes for Jennings and giving Eli 4 seconds to throw the ball, we'll score points...a lot of them.

If the Giants D line keeps up what they have been doing, Jackson and Garćon wont get any separation and we'll get turnovers and sacks.

I have a feeling just based on the coaching history of this staff, and the fact the Giants have trended up two games in a row, that they take anpther step forward and win tonight.

Giants-27
Skins- 10

I also think we might see a few balls thrown down the field this game. Its the next logical step in the offense's progression.
RE: RE: RE: This really has nothing to do with the media giving us credit or not  
vibe4giants : 9/25/2014 5:59 pm : link
In comment 11881658 JOrthman said:
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In comment 11881635 vibe4giants said:


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In comment 11881328 JOrthman said:


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This has more to do with, my belief, the media is giving them TOO much credit. This has nothing to do with respekt or whatever hipster way we want to put it. I'd agree with the betting line and calling it even, but don't understand how everything I've seen has been onesided.


Your extrapolating my overall theme or opinion by combining two seperate threads on two completely different topics. One was on the previous game and this is on the upcoming one. Did you read what I wrote in the threads or just the titles of each.
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I did read the other thread, yes. It was a 'rant' (your word) about you being 'all excited' to watch coverage of the Giants first September win in two seasons. And then being all disappointed that you only saw :30 of coverage. Not enough love.

And here you're complaining that the Redskins are getting too much love.

The two threads aren't as separate in reality as they are in your mind, as they both revolve around the Giants not getting enough time/attention/credit/l-u-v to suit you.

And I'm saying that as much fun as last week was for Giants fans, it makes complete sense that only Giants fans think it's a really big deal and it didn't carry over to this week. (Except for Giants fans.)

Hopefully, there's opportunity for you to be 'all excited' again later tonight. Because the Giants will get plenty of attention. The 'love' of disinterested parties will have to be earned, as always.

so backup quarterbacks are our nemesis but  
3putt : 9/25/2014 6:17 pm : link
last year we got to 7 wins only because we played backups. Okay, got it. Yesterday I was a football expert, today I are one.
vibe  
JOrthman : 9/25/2014 7:39 pm : link
The first post was written within the first 24 hours of the win over the Texans and was a rant over very little coverage of the game. This thread is about the love the Redskins are getting going up to this game. I don't understand how you think they are related. As stated several times this thread had little to do with what people thought of the Giants and was me surprised at all the Love the Redskins were getting. I really don't feel like breaking it down anymore, cause I didn't' think it was that complicated. Others got it and commented on it, see comments from dorgan for example.
JOrth..  
arcarsenal : 9/25/2014 10:41 pm : link
You go, dude. On the money.
RE: same here  
WeatherMan : 9/25/2014 10:44 pm : link
In comment 11880616 WeatherMan said:
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when you combine the injuries on their offensive line with an inexperienced QB facing a real pass rush and the best pair of cover corners in DRC and Prince he's seen in his short career on Thursday, Kirk Cousins is about to come crashing back to earth. Hard.

I'm not one to toot my own horn, but hey, Cousins... crash and burn baby. Crash and burn.
Yep  
JOrthman : 9/25/2014 11:36 pm : link
I'll stand by this one...
RE: Yep  
WeatherMan : 9/25/2014 11:50 pm : link
In comment 11884049 JOrthman said:
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I'll stand by this one...

Take a bow good sir. This one stands tall!
RE: because no matter how much you scratch or claw  
Route 9 in LEH : 9/26/2014 12:19 am : link
In comment 11880628 Route 9 in LEH said:
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Eli Manning i think will throw 300.


Wow. Spot on.
Every "analyst" on the NFL Network pregame picked the Skins  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/26/2014 12:20 am : link
except for Cowher. Cowher picked NYG.
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