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jcn56 : 9/25/2014 11:30 pm
I guess to try and keep the game thread from hitting 50,000 pages.

So, that was fun, right?
BTW - ***spoiler alert*** - for those who tuned out early...  
jcn56 : 9/25/2014 11:36 pm : link
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back to reality
kepler20 : 8:34 pm : link : reply
1-15.


Spoiler - we won!
Wow  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/25/2014 11:36 pm : link
this was fun.
That was a fun win  
WahooGiant : 9/25/2014 11:37 pm : link
Beautiful. Eli is a god damn genius.
complete  
sb2003 : 9/25/2014 11:37 pm : link
destruction.


That was fun to see. I don't know what to make of this Giants team yet, but damn.
For all of our disloyal bitches:  
mrvax : 9/25/2014 11:38 pm : link

I'm going to eat crow  
dpinzow : 9/25/2014 11:38 pm : link
I thought we were headed for 4-12. But 4-12 teams don't hand out back-to-back ass whoopings in 4 days. That being said, the schedule gets MUCH harder facing Ryan and his offense, the Eagles in Philly and the team with the star on their helmet in Jerryworld

Maybe we can contend?
Why can't you buy  
Rflairr : 9/25/2014 11:38 pm : link
the jacket, Coughlin likes to wear? It's not on the NFL shop store
There are some tests coming, and the Redskins aren't much of a team  
jcn56 : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
but you can only play who's on your schedule, so if they're going to suck you might as well dismantle them and beat them senseless on national TV.
74-31  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
That's the score the last two games. Mediocre teams sure, but good teams hammer bad teams.
Gentlemen  
Y.A. : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
We have a season!
its fun watching giants football again  
chris r : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
I'm excited.
Fire Jerry Reese  
bronxgiant : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
OL playing their asses off. If Beason can make it through the season its all good.
Great game  
nybeast : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
the offense is dominant, but the defense needs to get ready for better QBs coming up (Romo, Ryan, and Foles)
They destroyed them  
Blue Blood : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
that was just brutal...
From the end of the  
St. Jimmy : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
Arizona game to now, 180 for my feelings about this team. I love it.
Offense is coming along  
NY-Fan : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
Beckham will be a great addition. Donnell is the real deal and defense is also coming along. Need Beason back in control out there.
Been very critical of Reese  
Marty866b : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
I am happy he knows a lot more then I do. The o-line looks fantastic.
Yup Eli sucks  
Zebra3 : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
Like to play the Lions now!
Eli is a stone cold killer...  
JerryNYG : 9/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
He is going to thrive in this system. Kudos to the OL who I have been very negative about. They looked good.
I  
AcidTest : 9/25/2014 11:40 pm : link
thought we'd win, but predicted 26-14. Could not have foreseen such a blowout.
Guys  
djm : 9/25/2014 11:40 pm : link
We're back.
Well, that didn't suck...  
HelmetCatch : 9/25/2014 11:40 pm : link
...
Probably  
Bradshaw #44 : 9/25/2014 11:40 pm : link
Best all around game in the last 2 years. Games like this build confidence
For the entire organization. Very happy with the progress of the offensive line. We can compete to win this division.
Just logged on  
Headhunter : 9/25/2014 11:40 pm : link
and I just want to say, this was fun, goodnight
.......  
AnishPatel : 9/25/2014 11:40 pm : link
So does this mean we aren't drafting a QB?
Outside  
Arcanum : 9/25/2014 11:40 pm : link
Of the bs interception. And hit on a defenseless receiver penalty(Who caught the ball).This game was fun to watch
RE: There are some tests coming, and the Redskins aren't much of a team  
dpinzow : 9/25/2014 11:40 pm : link
In comment 11884074 jcn56 said:
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but you can only play who's on your schedule, so if they're going to suck you might as well dismantle them and beat them senseless on national TV.


And the Texans aren't a bad team, they're a pretty complete team that's short a QB
Larry Donnell is tied with 12 other NFL teams  
jcn56 : 9/25/2014 11:41 pm : link
at 3 for TDs on the season.
I ain't seen the Giants give a team an  
nicky43 : 9/25/2014 11:41 pm : link
ass whipping like this in a long time and it felt better than great! Good Defense and fantastic offense hitting on all cylinders. Eli looking outstanding along with Cruz, Donell, and Jenkins.
RE: RE: There are some tests coming, and the Redskins aren't much of a team  
dpinzow : 9/25/2014 11:41 pm : link
In comment 11884101 dpinzow said:
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but you can only play who's on your schedule, so if they're going to suck you might as well dismantle them and beat them senseless on national TV.



And the Texans aren't a bad team, they're a pretty complete team that's short a QB


For our first win, I mean. That being said, never in my wildest dreams did I think this Giants team would emasculate Washington 45-14 on national TV in their building
Now the announcers have to pretend they thought  
nicky43 : 9/25/2014 11:42 pm : link
NYG would win all along. LOL!
I'm not going to get too high on the season just yet, but tonight was  
Riggies : 9/25/2014 11:42 pm : link
the most fun Giants game in a very long time.

If this game only points to the team just having the potential to be watchable after all and offers some fun most weeks, nothing more than that, I'll take it after last season's painful viewing (even when they won) and consider it improvement enough for now, no matter what the future brings.
RE: Larry Donnell is tied with 12 other NFL teams  
jcn56 : 9/25/2014 11:42 pm : link
In comment 11884105 jcn56 said:
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at 3 for TDs on the season.


Eh, make that 4 - sorry Larry!
It was nice to  
tribs : 9/25/2014 11:42 pm : link
see Eli have a GREAT night!
and what do we hear behind the live postgame set?  
WeatherMan : 9/25/2014 11:42 pm : link
LETS GO GIANTS! Hahahahahahahahahah. What. A. Night.
We  
Bradshaw #44 : 9/25/2014 11:42 pm : link
Physically and mentally destroyed them tonight. That was fun
Between Eli and Cousins  
Wuphat : 9/25/2014 11:43 pm : link
They had 5 TDs and 5 INTs
The best part - aside from Eli's surgical precision throughout  
jcn56 : 9/25/2014 11:44 pm : link
three quarters - was seeing guys like Donnell and Williams establish themselves, not to mention Cruz looking more like his old self and Randle starting to click.
Keyptonite  
jpat54 : 9/25/2014 11:44 pm : link
No one happier than I am to be proven wrong,Eli is and will always be part of the solution.Actually started to feel sorry for skins,& I remember the G,Allen game.with age hate has died down towards skins though.
the offense looks  
newmike2 : 9/25/2014 11:44 pm : link
more comfortable than even during the SB seasons. The Redskins do suck in the secondary but they didn't do much on the line to help them out either.
Lets hope they can put this together again against an Atlanta team that should be much better.
I was encouraged by the play of  
nybeast : 9/25/2014 11:44 pm : link
Prince, D Moore, Ayers, and Kuhn. They stood out, And the OL was great, they have come together.
Eli is having fun amd throwing the ball great.  
drkenneth : 9/25/2014 11:44 pm : link
Defense has a ton of talent...ODB could make things very interesting. O line playing very well.
Add McAdoo to the Genius List  
clatterbuck : 9/25/2014 11:45 pm : link
Great to hear the "Let's Go Giants" chant at Fedex. Offensive line played well. Randle and Cruz had great games. And my oh
my, Donnell. And my favorite stat, Desean Jackson, 1 catch, nine yards.
Eli sure as hell  
bceagle05 : 9/25/2014 11:45 pm : link
is responding to this quarterback-friendly system. He's playing out of his mind. Really fun to watch. Can't wait for Beckham to replace Parker on offense AND specials.
As a DC fan  
jjgmrg901 : 9/25/2014 11:45 pm : link
It's Rosh Hashanah and I'm in synagogue tomorrow so I won't be able to gloat at work but I think I may have won T-Bones playa contest.
I had Giants 35-17,,,
What a difference  
St. Jimmy : 9/25/2014 11:45 pm : link
from 2012 with RGIII sitting in on Sportscenter.
We hung a Jordan on the overratedskins  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/25/2014 11:46 pm : link
45!

Hopefully this was a national wake up call
we don't have any TEs  
Scotty9678 : 9/25/2014 11:46 pm : link

7 touchdowns in 4 games...

skins  
SBlue46 : 9/25/2014 11:47 pm : link
Should have beat eagles...
we beat arizona...but gave it away..
should be 3..1...
49ers..gb..bears..not good
at this pace..we could be real good
ExtremeSkins is on full suicide watch  
jcn56 : 9/25/2014 11:48 pm : link
They're taking away all their members butter knives over there...
The DL and secondary were really good  
nybeast : 9/25/2014 11:48 pm : link
LBs are the big concern. Let's see how our defense holds up against better QB play
Eli reminds his many detractors that he is a two-time Super Bowl MVP  
Reese's Pieces : 9/25/2014 11:48 pm : link
and, given halfway decent protection from his offensive line, he can carry a team of mediocre talent to much greater heights than expected.
we have  
SBlue46 : 9/25/2014 11:49 pm : link
Best te's....
fewel sucks...but we get 6 turnovers
That was fucking awesome..  
Sean : 9/25/2014 11:49 pm : link
what a game.
RE: .......  
Reb8thVA : 9/25/2014 11:49 pm : link
In comment 11884098 AnishPatel said:
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So does this mean we aren't drafting a QB?


Best post all night
Great team win  
geemanfan : 9/25/2014 11:50 pm : link
The Giants proved they are for real .
Giants to know it all pundits................................  
GFL in WV : 9/25/2014 11:50 pm : link
Fuck you!!! That was sweeeeeeeeeeet.
fatman  
SBlue46 : 9/25/2014 11:50 pm : link
What are you eating and drinking now
RE: The DL and secondary were really good  
St. Jimmy : 9/25/2014 11:51 pm : link
In comment 11884148 nybeast said:
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LBs are the big concern. Let's see how our defense holds up against better QB play
Herzlich was scary out there. There was 20+ yards on a swing pass for a lot is this game. I don't want see that again this season.
It all starts with the OL  
yalebowl : 9/25/2014 11:51 pm : link
Give Eli protection and he will carve up any team.
I have been waiting for Eli to play in this kind of offense  
Peter from CT : 9/25/2014 11:51 pm : link
for five years. If people stay healthy, this could get really fun.
Great game but it's just one game though  
nybeast : 9/25/2014 11:51 pm : link
We have three games coming up against legit QBs and OLs. The defense is the concern compare to our superb offense. Our offense is legit and will be good against anyone. The best offensive performance I've seen since our last SB run.
Gotta say, Anish was right  
Greg from LI : 9/25/2014 11:52 pm : link
In this offense, Eli looks almost exactly like Aaron Rodgers.....a slow Aaron Rodgers, but I'll take it! Haha
Shit I just get called out  
giantgiantfan : 9/25/2014 11:52 pm : link
fuck yeah! Friday is going to rock. We have 10 days rest and prepare our guys for ATL @home...here's to ripping off their heads and shitting down their throats!
RE: RE: The DL and secondary were really good  
Greg from LI : 9/25/2014 11:53 pm : link
In comment 11884171 St. Jimmy said:
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LBs are the big concern. Let's see how our defense holds up against better QB play

Herzlich was scary out there. There was 20+ yards on a swing pass for a lot is this game. I don't want see that again this season.


Yeah we really need Kennard and Beason back pronto.
RE: Gotta say, Anish was right  
dep026 : 9/25/2014 11:53 pm : link
In comment 11884179 Greg from LI said:
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In this offense, Eli looks almost exactly like Aaron Rodgers.....a slow Aaron Rodgers, but I'll take it! Haha


Is it a good time to live in Virginia?
Hopefully our two linebackers are back  
Peter from CT : 9/25/2014 11:53 pm : link
next week. Would make a lot different.
Eli Manning.  
ZGiants98 : 9/25/2014 11:54 pm : link
I love the doubters! Bring em on!
Eli sounds like he's  
nicky43 : 9/25/2014 11:55 pm : link
on speed. LOL
RE: RE: RE: The DL and secondary were really good  
dpinzow : 9/25/2014 11:55 pm : link
In comment 11884186 Greg from LI said:
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LBs are the big concern. Let's see how our defense holds up against better QB play

Herzlich was scary out there. There was 20+ yards on a swing pass for a lot is this game. I don't want see that again this season.



Yeah we really need Kennard and Beason back pronto.


We'll need at least Beason back against the Falcons. That's a much better offense than Washington. We'll need Beason and Kennard back for Philly because of all the throws they like to make to Sproles, Ertz, McCoy etc.
Oh it's a great time to be in Virginia  
Greg from LI : 9/25/2014 11:56 pm : link
But I just came up to visit family in NY today! Bad timing. .haha
You can't coach speed Deion  
WeatherMan : 9/25/2014 11:56 pm : link
- Eli. Postgame. LMAO!
Eli...  
dep026 : 9/25/2014 11:56 pm : link
"Well you cant teach speed."

Hahaha
Great win but one thing on the Skins drives  
Mason : 9/25/2014 11:58 pm : link
Herz had trouble with the playcall. What coverage was that because he kept leaving the RB to move over to McClain. He did it a couple of times. If Beason isn't back they need to clean that up quickly because that resulted in their biggest plays a couple of times.
What a game!  
Model4001 : 9/25/2014 11:59 pm : link
We have a TE...or is it two TEs? Either way Donnell dominating the middle is a sight for sore eyes!
So glad I was told the OL sucks  
speedywheels : 9/25/2014 11:59 pm : link
And that the season was over on March 12th.
Short of winning another Super Bowl  
TrueBlue'02 : 9/25/2014 11:59 pm : link
It doesn't get much better than that :-)
Larry Donnell could be a Plax  
nybeast : 9/26/2014 12:02 am : link
I picked him up on my fantasy
RE: Great win but one thing on the Skins drives  
kepler20 : 9/26/2014 12:03 am : link
In comment 11884212 Mason said:
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Herz had trouble with the playcall. What coverage was that because he kept leaving the RB to move over to McClain. He did it a couple of times. If Beason isn't back they need to clean that up quickly because that resulted in their biggest plays a couple of times.


That's why we should've went CJ Mosley/Donald/Martin.
they couldn't even cover Donnell with a CB!  
Simms11 : 9/26/2014 12:04 am : link
He's officially become a weapon for us. Great target and safety valve for Eli. This offense has been fun to watch. Let's hope they can keep it going. One game at a time. Keep chopping wood and don't look past Atlanta and in 17 days, we might have a chance to take the Division back. I'm hoping Philly losses to SF this week,of course.
Perry Fewell deserves some kudos  
nybeast : 9/26/2014 12:04 am : link
for this performance too.
RE: RE: Great win but one thing on the Skins drives  
BillT : 9/26/2014 12:05 am : link
In comment 11884223 kepler20 said:
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Herz had trouble with the playcall. What coverage was that because he kept leaving the RB to move over to McClain. He did it a couple of times. If Beason isn't back they need to clean that up quickly because that resulted in their biggest plays a couple of times.



That's why we should've went CJ Mosley/Donald/Martin.


Well at least you're a consistent idiot.
One more time  
jcn56 : 9/26/2014 12:06 am : link
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back to reality
kepler20 : 8:34 pm : link : reply
1-15.
So wait I'm confused...  
giantgiantfan : 9/26/2014 12:06 am : link
is this the same Washington team that took Philly down to the wire in Philly?
RE: One more time  
Peter from CT : 9/26/2014 12:07 am : link
In comment 11884243 jcn56 said:
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back to reality
kepler20 : 8:34 pm : link : reply
1-15.

That guy is so annoying.
RE: One more time  
kepler20 : 9/26/2014 12:07 am : link
In comment 11884243 jcn56 said:
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back to reality
kepler20 : 8:34 pm : link : reply
1-15.



You are all so dull if you read that literally. Check the score when I wrote that.
RE: So wait I'm confused...  
Greg from LI : 9/26/2014 12:08 am : link
In comment 11884249 giantgiantfan said:
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is this the same Washington team that took Philly down to the wire in Philly?


Damn, man, I tried to tell you who the Redskins were before this game!
Troll away shit for brains  
jcn56 : 9/26/2014 12:08 am : link
and see if you find anyone dumb enough to think that your post was supposed to be sarcasm.
Eli was so decisive  
deadkurtrulz : 9/26/2014 12:08 am : link
he made the OL's job easy. A lot of the throws he made were not easy throws but he knew where to go when the ball was snapped and put the ball right on the receiver.

Catch the damn ball fella's and let Eli make you a star.

Eagles and Cowboys secondary's are not good and it is starting to look like a good match up for Gmen.

Eli deserves the success after the beatings he took last year and all the blame he got from the doubters. You know who you are.
TC Press conference  
nicky43 : 9/26/2014 12:09 am : link
coming up on ESPN in a few minutes.
RE: From the end of the  
JFIB : 9/26/2014 12:12 am : link
In comment 11884081 St. Jimmy said:
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Arizona game to now, 180 for my feelings about this team. I love it.


jcn - That's because the team has made a 180 degree turn too!
RE: Perry Fewell deserves some kudos  
Arcanum : 9/26/2014 12:13 am : link
In comment 11884232 nybeast said:
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for this performance too.


He definitely does. He kept the pressure on, all night. And didn't let up. That's what I like to see. Instead of, dropping back in coverage.
just got home  
Bleedin Blue : 9/26/2014 12:18 am : link
I hate to be Debbie Downer and say something negative, but Herzlich should never see the field again ad a linebacker!!
Bob Papa said to Eli on the WFAN postgame  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/26/2014 12:18 am : link
"You have as many rushing TDs as RG3 this season." LOL.
Oops, he said "more rushing TDs than RG3 this season."  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/26/2014 12:19 am : link
My bad.
RE: just got home  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2014 12:19 am : link
In comment 11884294 Bleedin Blue said:
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I hate to be Debbie Downer and say something negative, but Herzlich should never see the field again ad a linebacker!!


I would agree with that. He deserves to be benched just like Stevie was benched for poor play.

You can't blow assignments for huge plays like that.
Hats off to Will Beatty.  
bceagle05 : 9/26/2014 12:21 am : link
I know the whole line is playing well, but Beatty's been a whipping boy around here and I've been as critical as anyone. He's been terrific thus far.
Anyone watching Finding Giants?  
steve in ky : 9/26/2014 12:22 am : link
.
RE: RE: just got home  
dpinzow : 9/26/2014 12:23 am : link
In comment 11884302 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I hate to be Debbie Downer and say something negative, but Herzlich should never see the field again ad a linebacker!!



I would agree with that. He deserves to be benched just like Stevie was benched for poor play.

You can't blow assignments for huge plays like that.


Not sure what the solution is with Beason and Kennard injured. When you're almost out of LBs a backup like Herzlich is going to be exposed a few times
DRC  
crick78 : 9/26/2014 12:25 am : link
I know he returned to the game. Did anyone here anything about his injury?
RE: DRC  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/26/2014 12:27 am : link
In comment 11884321 crick78 said:
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I know he returned to the game. Did anyone here anything about his injury?


Just that it was a thigh injury and he returned. He stayed in the rest of the game from when he came in, so I'm guessing he's okay. Plus, due to this be a Thursday game, he now has a few extra days to rest it between now and next Sunday's game, which is nice.
being exposed  
crick78 : 9/26/2014 12:27 am : link
For not being athletic is one thing. Being exposed for missing multiple assignments is another
RE: RE: RE: just got home  
Mason : 9/26/2014 12:29 am : link
In comment 11884314 dpinzow said:
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In comment 11884294 Bleedin Blue said:


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I hate to be Debbie Downer and say something negative, but Herzlich should never see the field again ad a linebacker!!



I would agree with that. He deserves to be benched just like Stevie was benched for poor play.

You can't blow assignments for huge plays like that.



Not sure what the solution is with Beason and Kennard injured. When you're almost out of LBs a backup like Herzlich is going to be exposed a few times


It wasn't just exposure. He had trouble with the play call on a couple of big plays. He picked up Morris then kept releasing him to no one to get back over to McClain. He was pulled I think after that play. And he actually did it again in the 2nd half.
I immediately  
crick78 : 9/26/2014 12:29 am : link
Thought hammy when I saw DRC come up lame. Gotta have him!
RE: I immediately  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2014 12:30 am : link
In comment 11884340 crick78 said:
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Thought hammy when I saw DRC come up lame. Gotta have him!


He's essential
RE: I immediately  
Simms11 : 9/26/2014 12:31 am : link
In comment 11884340 crick78 said:
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Thought hammy when I saw DRC come up lame. Gotta have him!


I thought so too, but I received an update on my mobile app that said it wasa thigh?!
WAHOO!!!  
guitarguybs07 : 9/26/2014 12:31 am : link
RE: RE: I immediately  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/26/2014 12:32 am : link
In comment 11884341 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Thought hammy when I saw DRC come up lame. Gotta have him!



He's essential


He really is. And to think we could have lost out on him to the Jets. Thank God Reese gave the okay for the big contract. He's worth it.
Great win obviously.  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 9/26/2014 12:34 am : link
The efficiency of the offense is really seen in the easier 3rd down chances it creates. I commented on that in a preseason thread after watching the Packers' offense. I've always felt red zone efficiency is largely based on play design and we're seeing it now. They're isolating their biggest mismatch and going to it repeatedly in numerous ways.

Eli, Larry Donnell, and Prince Amukamara all played outstanding games. DRC's addition has made Prince's life much easier. The o-line was also fabulous.

The only negative was Herzlich. On 2 separate plays, he was completely clueless. It was ugly to watch.

The non-TD on the Randle play was quite possibly the worst call I've ever seen. If that's not a TD, then WTF are we doing?
RE: Shit I just get called out  
mrvax : 9/26/2014 12:34 am : link
In comment 11884180 giantgiantfan said:
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fuck yeah! Friday is going to rock. We have 10 days rest and prepare our guys for ATL @home...here's to ripping off their heads and shitting down their throats!


Now that's the spirit.
RE: RE: just got home  
Arcanum : 9/26/2014 12:35 am : link
In comment 11884302 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 11884294 Bleedin Blue said:


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I hate to be Debbie Downer and say something negative, but Herzlich should never see the field again ad a linebacker!!



I would agree with that. He deserves to be benched just like Stevie was benched for poor play.

You can't blow assignments for huge plays like that.




He is God awful. He was completely lost out there
what happened to Paysinger?  
chris r : 9/26/2014 12:41 am : link
He was never very good, but I don't remember him being as lost as Herzlich.
RE: what happened to Paysinger?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2014 12:44 am : link
In comment 11884382 chris r said:
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He was never very good, but I don't remember him being as lost as Herzlich.


Seems like Paysinger is in chateau bow wow.
That's BBI for You  
Jim in Tampa : 9/26/2014 12:45 am : link
Can't believe that in a game where the Giants dominate from start to finish and win by 31 points that people are actually focusing on Herzlich.
Also nice,  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/26/2014 12:46 am : link
we got Beckham another 10 days of rest and got the win without him. Hopefully, he is ready to go in 10 days at home. Man, would that be awesome...
RE: That's BBI for You  
Mason : 9/26/2014 12:47 am : link
In comment 11884396 Jim in Tampa said:
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Can't believe that in a game where the Giants dominate from start to finish and win by 31 points that people are actually focusing on Herzlich.


It's a point of topic right now on the Giants post game because it was so awful it needs to be discuss.
RE: That's BBI for You  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2014 12:47 am : link
In comment 11884396 Jim in Tampa said:
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Can't believe that in a game where the Giants dominate from start to finish and win by 31 points that people are actually focusing on Herzlich.


Well, we got away with it tonight, but those are two big plays directly on Herzlich, and a better team makes us pay for them.
RE: Hats off to Will Beatty.  
bigbluescot : 9/26/2014 12:56 am : link
In comment 11884307 bceagle05 said:
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I know the whole line is playing well, but Beatty's been a whipping boy around here and I've been as critical as anyone. He's been terrific thus far.


The effort and heart is there from Beatty, you look at Eli's rushing TD, after basically the entire line pancaked their respective man, Beatty was the first up and in the endzone looking for another guy to hit.
Beatty was horrible last year  
chris r : 9/26/2014 12:58 am : link
but the year before he earned his contract. When he's on his game, he's a good player.
RE: RE: That's BBI for You  
Bleedin Blue : 9/26/2014 1:05 am : link
In comment 11884406 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 11884396 Jim in Tampa said:


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Can't believe that in a game where the Giants dominate from start to finish and win by 31 points that people are actually focusing on Herzlich.



Well, we got away with it tonight, but those are two big plays directly on Herzlich, and a better team makes us pay for them.


Jim, it was a beautiful game to watch, but Herzlich was the author of few WTF moments! That could have turned the game around at that point.
Larry Donnell  
giantgiantfan : 9/26/2014 1:09 am : link
absolutely giddy in post game press conference and rightfully so.
Donnell - ( New Window )
RE: RE: what happened to Paysinger?  
giantgiantfan : 9/26/2014 1:10 am : link
In comment 11884391 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 11884382 chris r said:


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He was never very good, but I don't remember him being as lost as Herzlich.



Seems like Paysinger is in chateau bow wow.


lol, definitely a more rustic name for it.
I forgot about the call on the Niles Paul hit...  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 9/26/2014 1:23 am : link
can they stop calling penalties just because people are hit hard? He had the ball... how the fuck was he defenseless? The only reason he got hit in the head was because he ducked.
In the postgame Conor Orr tweeted  
dpinzow : 9/26/2014 1:24 am : link
that during film study, JPP discovered that Cousins led his receivers constantly with his eyes (which you can get away with in college but is a big no-no in the big leagues)
RE: Why can't you buy  
Great White Ghost : 9/26/2014 1:30 am : link
In comment 11884069 Rflairr said:
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the jacket, Coughlin likes to wear? It's not on the NFL shop store
Maybe not, but I have his hat.WOOOOT!!
RE: I forgot about the call on the Niles Paul hit...  
glowrider : 9/26/2014 1:44 am : link
In comment 11884464 Shockeyisthebest80 said:
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can they stop calling penalties just because people are hit hard? He had the ball... how the fuck was he defenseless? The only reason he got hit in the head was because he ducked.


That guy got killed tonight. Actually felt bad for him. First he took a big hit to the knee/leg only to come back to get concussed.
Just got back from the game.  
Servo : 9/26/2014 1:44 am : link
What a great night--starting with a free upgrade to the club section when we arrived at our seats in the upper level!

Eli is a maestro.

Orakpo was wearing the microphone  
TheBigBlueOne : 9/26/2014 1:44 am : link
for that micd up show. That is going to be the saddest thing ever. Shortest too.
I love this offense.  
NyquistX3 : 9/26/2014 1:55 am : link
Finally Eli can flourish in a QB friendly scheme and shut up all of his detractors.
RE: Gotta say, Anish was right  
NyquistX3 : 9/26/2014 1:57 am : link
In comment 11884179 Greg from LI said:
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In this offense, Eli looks almost exactly like Aaron Rodgers.....a slow Aaron Rodgers, but I'll take it! Haha


Exactly. Rodgers is terrific, but that offense is made to make QBs look really good. It's such a good scheme.
RE: RE: Gotta say, Anish was right  
Milton : 9/26/2014 2:25 am : link
In comment 11884502 NyquistX3 said:
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In comment 11884179 Greg from LI said:


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In this offense, Eli looks almost exactly like Aaron Rodgers.....a slow Aaron Rodgers, but I'll take it! Haha



Exactly. Rodgers is terrific, but that offense is made to make QBs look really good. It's such a good scheme.
It only makes QBs look really good if they are smart enough and quick-thinking enough to take advantage of what the defense is giving them. It wouldn't be a good system for a QB like Kerry Collins.
nickname for Larry Donnell? Larry Legend is taken.  
SHO'NUFF : 9/26/2014 2:43 am : link
Larry Legit?? LD/TD?
congrats to gmen  
clint : 9/26/2014 3:00 am : link
was at the game at the club level. definitely refs are very, very bad. terrible call on the paul hit - a wr ducks his head down and gets hit hard and it's a penalty; he was certainly not defenseless. and then he's down by contact - huh-how is that possible when goes down to make the catch - just stupid, weird calls. and two giants get hit late and/or hit in the helment and no call - weird! and the non-td for randle was laughable; you need to make a football move in the endzone - really? guess you can fumble in the endzone - refs are a joke. but yep, hard to think we'll get 6 to's per game. and enjoy watching the giants the rest of the season. I'm very tempted after tnite, but will stay with my boycott of watching nfl games after the rice debacle :-). just went tnite since a friend invited me weeks ago and didn't want to be rude. go giants in spirit :) (will just follow on smartphone and highlights - smile!).
Eli is Eli again  
bigblueheadache : 9/26/2014 3:52 am : link
I was one of those Eli skeptics, but he has really returned to form with a new interior of the offensive line, the emergence of Donnell, and an offensive coordinator who puts him into high percentage situations. But let's be honest: he hasn't played this well in a couple of years. It was right to have doubts and ask questions about whether age and playing behind some bad lines had permanently tarnished his ability. The Giants had to have their own doubts about him. As a Giants fan, I'm glad he still has plenty left in the tank. My greatest concern was that the team would peak after he had, but right now I think the team looks good enough to compete in the NFC East, and then maybe Eli gets hot down the stretch. It was great to watch, and as always I'll be rooting for him.
Eli will be fine  
Some Fan : 9/26/2014 5:37 am : link
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SanFranGiantsFan : 9/26/2014 6:16 am : link
Awesome win.
From now on, when other teams have to face the Giants  
Ira : 9/26/2014 6:34 am : link
this song should be a part of their preparation.
Eli's Coming - Three Dog Night - ( New Window )
Even with  
Arcanum : 9/26/2014 6:35 am : link
Winning two Super Bowls. I always felt, Gilbride's offense, was holding Eli back. He didn't complain about it. But It just seemed that way to me.
10 days off now to  
rebel yell : 9/26/2014 6:41 am : link
get em' all healthy, maybe get Beckham out there, get Beason ready (Herz won't cut it) and prepare to slug this NFCE out! Last night's win was MASSIVE!
I was dead wrong about this team  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/26/2014 7:50 am : link
I had 4 to 5 win expectations, and its nice to envision having a season on our hands. This makes me retroactively much more pissed about the arizona game which we straight up blew. Should be 3-1 right now.

as always it comes down to turnovers. Winning the battle as decisively as we did last night virtually guarantees victory. Defense has been making a ton of plays the last couple weeks, hope it keeps up. We do have a lot of guys in that secondary with above average ball skills.

Eli was awesome last night. He has strung together 3 very solid games now and played one of his better career games in general last night. Only interception was terrible luck. Was it just me or did he also look bizarrely happy at several points last night, downright cheesing that rivaled any emotion displayed certainly in a regular season game. Looks like a guy who hasnt had a lot of fun playing football in a while and all of that was pent up ready to burst

donnell is a monster. 4 games in, ive seen enough to say we have ourselves a mainstay at that position for years

this was one of the more satisfying wins in washington ever, just ridiculously dominant
Excellent win.  
Rick5 : 9/26/2014 8:00 am : link
It's going to be interesting to see how they do against top competition now.
Stunning!!!! What a turnaround.  
Victor in CT : 9/26/2014 8:22 am : link
Glad for Eli. My only worry about him was that they would get him killed. Keep him standing and he makes journeyman receivers look good.
RE: RE: just got home  
Victor in CT : 9/26/2014 8:23 am : link
In comment 11884302 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 11884294 Bleedin Blue said:


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I hate to be Debbie Downer and say something negative, but Herzlich should never see the field again ad a linebacker!!



I would agree with that. He deserves to be benched just like Stevie was benched for poor play.

You can't blow assignments for huge plays like that.


J. Williams sucks too. Another "great athlete" who can't make plays. He can't tackle. ANother special teamer.
Has Anyone Thought  
thevett : 9/26/2014 8:30 am : link
How good this offense can be with a Legit deep threat namely Odell Beckham ? We may see a lot of Salsa before the season ends.
Dumb question  
Bill L : 9/26/2014 8:33 am : link
all the stories I've read have the Giants passing for 295 yards last night and also have Eli passing for 300 yards.

Since Eli made all the passes, can someone explain the math to me?
That was pretty damn impressive  
RB^2 : 9/26/2014 8:34 am : link
It's really interesting to watch a completely new offense. It looks like Eli's not getting killed nearly as much as he used to in the pocket. I'm guessing this will help extend his prime and his career.
Bill L  
RB^2 : 9/26/2014 8:51 am : link
Sacks count against team passing stats, so Eli must have gotten sacked for 5 yards at some point, though I don't remember any specific plays.
RE: Bill L  
Servo : 9/26/2014 9:03 am : link
In comment 11884803 RB^2 said:
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Sacks count against team passing stats, so Eli must have gotten sacked for 5 yards at some point, though I don't remember any specific plays.


Kerrigan sacked him for a five yard loss at the end of the first half, a couple plays before the sideline strike to Cruz that set up the field goal.
RE: Bill L  
jcn56 : 9/26/2014 9:06 am : link
In comment 11884803 RB^2 said:
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Sacks count against team passing stats, so Eli must have gotten sacked for 5 yards at some point, though I don't remember any specific plays.


Probably the sack that Pugh gave up.
I agree about Eli  
LG in NYC : 9/26/2014 9:08 am : link
looking unusually giddy last night. I said the same thing as I was watching.

And these last 2 games should prove that changing the offense was essential for this team's immediate future. No knock on KG but this is such a fun offense to watch and Eli looks like a different QB in it.

As I said last night in a game thread.... I was 100% wrong about this team. I do not understand how a team can simply look this different in such a short time but I am now a believer.
mrvax  
GMANinDC : 9/26/2014 10:15 am : link
Was you trying to post this?


56, Greg
GMANinDC : 9/22/2014 5:41 pm : link : reply
The addition of Hatcher..he command a double and clogs the middle..He suffered a hamstring injury and might be slowed. That will be a test for Walton..

McCoy was dancing all game..he didn't hit the whole hard at anytime and was stacked up a lot..I think he missed a yards dancing in the backfield. That being said, they have been pretty good against the run with Hatcher..

The LB'er is non-factor and they have Fletcher's replacement in Keenan Robinson..They have no one to play in space against TE's and slants..

Secondary is the biggest weakness.. They have 2nd year player Amerson who has been beat a few times and have to star they're 4th rod draft pick Breeland on the other side with Hall's absence..Merriweather is a head hunter and Clark is very slowed..

The NYG might not have a big running game against them, but i think the short passes and hurry up is going to to kill them..

Oh, and their special teams suck..Big Time..

The line is also weak..They cannot run block well or Pass protect will..Houston line ate them up..Philly has no one to pressure them..

Speaking of lines, Philly lost most of them during the game and before..They had about 4 new guys playing and they still did not give up a sack..
or this...  
GMANinDC : 9/26/2014 10:16 am : link
One thing about the Skins fron 7
GMANinDC : 9/24/2014 4:56 pm : link : reply
They had 10 sacks against Jax and none against Philly or Houston..Philly played with a completely new OL because of injuries and ejections and the Skins still didn't get a sack off of Foles..

If the Giants continue with the short, quick passing and no-huddle, it would neutralize Kerrigan and Orakpo..

I think the DL is going to to give their OL fits..The running game with Morris has not been as dynamic as last year because they lost Montgomery and the right side has been porous. Trent Williams is the best guy on that line..

This is going to be a low scoring game for the Skins..I can't see them putting up more than 20 points..
RE: Great win obviously.  
OC : 9/26/2014 11:12 am : link
In comment 11884358 Shockeyisthebest80 said:
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The efficiency of the offense is really seen in the easier 3rd down chances it creates. I commented on that in a preseason thread after watching the Packers' offense. I've always felt red zone efficiency is largely based on play design and we're seeing it now. They're isolating their biggest mismatch and going to it repeatedly in numerous ways.

Eli, Larry Donnell, and Prince Amukamara all played outstanding games. DRC's addition has made Prince's life much easier. The o-line was also fabulous.

The only negative was Herzlich. On 2 separate plays, he was completely clueless. It was ugly to watch.

The non-TD on the Randle play was quite possibly the worst call I've ever seen. If that's not a TD, then WTF are we doing?


I have never understood that. All a RB has to do is have posession & inch it over the line. Why not a WR. Randle was clearly across the line with posession.
Yes, it was changing the offense  
HomerJones45 : 9/26/2014 11:41 am : link
adding three new interior linemen, fixing Eli's throwing mechanics, adding a pass catching tight end, adding two running backs, and an experienced wide receiver had nothing to do with it.

So, yes, it was the magic system. You guys must also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.

Positives and Opportunities for Improvement  
Les in TO : 9/26/2014 12:33 pm : link
Positives:

McAdoo had washington guessing and panting for oxygen
Dominant Eli performance. Neutralized Haseltt's blitzing. Owned that D.
YAC from receivers.
Larry pro bowl Donnell
O-Line, kept eli clean and good run blocking generally
Preston Parker
Jennings
Hillis - dude was a mack truck last night
weatherford/ST coverage units
pass rush
the prince!!
rest of the secondary - 4 picks and almost a 5th

Opportunities for improvement

couple of easy drops + randle needs to ensure full concentration until the whistle - second time he's turned the ball over at the goal line in last two years
ST return unit
constantly fooled by play action pass/wide open running backs - not sure which LB/safety was at fault or if it was fewell's design, but they had that play 4-5 times for big gains
I'm sure Eli and the entire franchise  
djm : 9/26/2014 1:10 pm : link
was extra giddy last night. THis team has been beat up on and off the field since late 2012. Last week felt good but last night felt like a rebirth. They just look tremendous. You don't put up nearly 80 pts in two weeks by accident.

That game felt a lot like @ philly 2011. Cruz breaks out much like Donnell broke out last night. Big crunching road win that has to put the NFL on notice just a little bit.

Donnell...how long is that dude's fuckin contract. Holy fuck he's good.

I don't think you can blame Randle for that INT  
chris r : 9/26/2014 1:10 pm : link
the safety put his helmet right on the ball.
contract info for the freak we have at TE  
djm : 9/26/2014 1:11 pm : link
2013 405,000 - - - - - - 405,000 -
2014 495,000 - - - - - - 495,000 -
2015 ERFA

Sign this kid long term.
Kind of amazing just a few weeks ago...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2014 1:16 pm : link
the Giants had the worst TE's in football.

You would think by now we(fans in general)would show a little patience before making concrete statements.
RE: Kind of amazing just a few weeks ago...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2014 1:18 pm : link
In comment 11885778 okiegiant said:
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the Giants had the worst TE's in football.

You would think by now we(fans in general)would show a little patience before making concrete statements.


You would think. Users on this board have been watching football for a long time, yet when it comes time to panic, conventional wisdom and common sense goes out the door first thing. Kind of like how Eli is declining or finished or awful because he's had to play with a crap offensive line for 2 years.
RE: Kind of amazing just a few weeks ago...  
chris r : 9/26/2014 1:32 pm : link
In comment 11885778 okiegiant said:
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the Giants had the worst TE's in football.

You would think by now we(fans in general)would show a little patience before making concrete statements.


Isn't a concrete statement that the Giants don't have the worst TEs in football? Shouldn't we be patient and wait to see where we rank at the end of the season?
RE: RE: Kind of amazing just a few weeks ago...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2014 1:34 pm : link
In comment 11885817 chris r said:
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In comment 11885778 okiegiant said:


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the Giants had the worst TE's in football.

You would think by now we(fans in general)would show a little patience before making concrete statements.



Isn't a concrete statement that the Giants don't have the worst TEs in football? Shouldn't we be patient and wait to see where we rank at the end of the season?


You enjoy your roll, don't you? But seriously, is this is all you bring to the board?

Ooops, role, you may enjoy a roll too...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2014 1:36 pm : link
it could be lunchtime in Contrarian City.
i swear to god  
djm : 9/26/2014 1:36 pm : link
I saw the first 2 words of Radar's post and without even seeing the poster's name, knew it was Radar.

Bravo.
first 3 words  
djm : 9/26/2014 1:37 pm : link
assuming 'a' is considered a word....
last comment  
Les in TO : 9/26/2014 1:40 pm : link
last night's game had everything you could ask for:

our no name tight ends with 4 touchdowns OMG
an eli manning scramble TD
a nassib and robinson sighting
our secondary picking everything off in site
imposing our will on both lines
getting the redskins to tap out on their home field - man they looked bummed!!
HJ45  
LG in NYC : 9/26/2014 2:01 pm : link
All important things as well, but you are kidding yourself if you don't think the change in Offense isn't a big component of what we are seeing these past few weeks.

I'd love to know the last time Eli went over 70% comp percentage in back to back weeks, and then add in 6 passing TD's to 1 (BS) INT in those 2 weeks. And then add in 2 convincing wins against good defenses.

This entire offense looks different and (I believe) much better and more sustainable. If you don't see that, well, I am not sure what you are watching.
It is nice to be back on the other side of the humiliating drubbings;  
jsuds : 9/26/2014 2:47 pm : link
hope we can sustain the momentum right to the playoffs.

Eli will win MVP one of these years I still believe.

crazy  
giantfanboy : 9/26/2014 2:49 pm : link
crazy that 5 days ago we were 0-2
you want some shakes of the head  
B in ALB : 9/26/2014 2:58 pm : link
and laughs head over to the ExtremeSkins game thread from last night. What a shit show of epic proportion featuring the biggest collection of ham n egg mouthbreathers since Paulie and his special forces team invaded Poland in the 70's.
One of the best Giants games I've seen  
#10* : 9/26/2014 3:30 pm : link
simply awesome!
RE: you want some shakes of the head  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2014 4:18 pm : link
In comment 11886002 B in ALB said:
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and laughs head over to the ExtremeSkins game thread from last night. What a shit show of epic proportion featuring the biggest collection of ham n egg mouthbreathers since Paulie and his special forces team invaded Poland in the 70's.


lmao
relax  
clint : 9/26/2014 4:23 pm : link
umm, it's week 4 - folks probably need to relax. it's a long season with many ups and downs; so we'll see. but obviously if we can continue to run-block well and give eli time (and folks catch the ball), we should be fine offensively. and the d is obviously creating turnovers; but we'll see how it goes with better o's and qbs - since they won't face hou and was every week. but yes, lots to be excited about so far.
How fun will Sunday be?  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/26/2014 4:59 pm : link
We get to root for New Orleans and San Fran, both of whom have a good shot. SF is desperate, and I really don't think the Eagles are that good, especially on defense. Dallas has their usual issues, and NO needs a win desperately too.

All the while, that awesome score from our game will be popping up on the ticker every once in a while. HA!
A diferent viewpoint here..  
Tark10 : 9/26/2014 5:57 pm : link
I was very happy the Giants kicked ass last night. This may be because of the tough game the Skins played against the Eagles four days earlier. That game was played as though it was a playoff game. Very physical game. Based on what I saw, the Skins didn't look like they came to play. They looked flat footed and slow. I think they were just beat up and tired. Injuries always hurt more when you lose. I'm not making excuses for the Skins. I'm just merely making an observation. I realize the Giants played 4 days earlier as well, but it wasn't the same type of game. I am curious to see if anyone else viewed the game this way.
Spent the offseason saying we had to draft that ND TE in the first  
jLefty : 9/26/2014 6:12 pm : link
Spent the weeks starting with preseason posting endlessly that Eli couldn't adapt to the new offense. Well my only excuse is that I'm 84 and senile. My Dad took me to all Giant home games from 1938 to 1941..
RE: A diferent viewpoint here..  
BlackLight : 9/26/2014 6:33 pm : link
In comment 11886250 Tark10 said:
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I was very happy the Giants kicked ass last night. This may be because of the tough game the Skins played against the Eagles four days earlier. That game was played as though it was a playoff game. Very physical game. Based on what I saw, the Skins didn't look like they came to play. They looked flat footed and slow. I think they were just beat up and tired. Injuries always hurt more when you lose. I'm not making excuses for the Skins. I'm just merely making an observation. I realize the Giants played 4 days earlier as well, but it wasn't the same type of game. I am curious to see if anyone else viewed the game this way.


This is pretty much the #1 reason I thought we had a good chance to win. Washington was coming off a brutal, emotional, divisional game. By comparison, our game against Houston was fairly workmanlike. I thought our team would have a lot more in the tank for last night, especially late in the game if it was still competitive.
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