56, Greg
GMANinDC : 9/22/2014 5:41 pm : link : reply
The addition of Hatcher..he command a double and clogs the middle..He suffered a hamstring injury and might be slowed. That will be a test for Walton..
McCoy was dancing all game..he didn't hit the whole hard at anytime and was stacked up a lot..I think he missed a yards dancing in the backfield. That being said, they have been pretty good against the run with Hatcher..
The LB'er is non-factor and they have Fletcher's replacement in Keenan Robinson..They have no one to play in space against TE's and slants..
Secondary is the biggest weakness.. They have 2nd year player Amerson who has been beat a few times and have to star they're 4th rod draft pick Breeland on the other side with Hall's absence..Merriweather is a head hunter and Clark is very slowed..
The NYG might not have a big running game against them, but i think the short passes and hurry up is going to to kill them..
Oh, and their special teams suck..Big Time..
The line is also weak..They cannot run block well or Pass protect will..Houston line ate them up..Philly has no one to pressure them..
Speaking of lines, Philly lost most of them during the game and before..They had about 4 new guys playing and they still did not give up a sack..
One thing about the Skins fron 7
GMANinDC : 9/24/2014 4:56 pm : link : reply
They had 10 sacks against Jax and none against Philly or Houston..Philly played with a completely new OL because of injuries and ejections and the Skins still didn't get a sack off of Foles..
If the Giants continue with the short, quick passing and no-huddle, it would neutralize Kerrigan and Orakpo..
I think the DL is going to to give their OL fits..The running game with Morris has not been as dynamic as last year because they lost Montgomery and the right side has been porous. Trent Williams is the best guy on that line..
This is going to be a low scoring game for the Skins..I can't see them putting up more than 20 points..
The efficiency of the offense is really seen in the easier 3rd down chances it creates. I commented on that in a preseason thread after watching the Packers' offense. I've always felt red zone efficiency is largely based on play design and we're seeing it now. They're isolating their biggest mismatch and going to it repeatedly in numerous ways.
Eli, Larry Donnell, and Prince Amukamara all played outstanding games. DRC's addition has made Prince's life much easier. The o-line was also fabulous.
The only negative was Herzlich. On 2 separate plays, he was completely clueless. It was ugly to watch.
The non-TD on the Randle play was quite possibly the worst call I've ever seen. If that's not a TD, then WTF are we doing?
I have never understood that. All a RB has to do is have posession & inch it over the line. Why not a WR. Randle was clearly across the line with posession.
adding three new interior linemen, fixing Eli's throwing mechanics, adding a pass catching tight end, adding two running backs, and an experienced wide receiver had nothing to do with it.
So, yes, it was the magic system. You guys must also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.
McAdoo had washington guessing and panting for oxygen
Dominant Eli performance. Neutralized Haseltt's blitzing. Owned that D.
YAC from receivers.
Larry pro bowl Donnell
O-Line, kept eli clean and good run blocking generally
Preston Parker
Jennings
Hillis - dude was a mack truck last night
weatherford/ST coverage units
pass rush
the prince!!
rest of the secondary - 4 picks and almost a 5th
Opportunities for improvement
couple of easy drops + randle needs to ensure full concentration until the whistle - second time he's turned the ball over at the goal line in last two years
ST return unit
constantly fooled by play action pass/wide open running backs - not sure which LB/safety was at fault or if it was fewell's design, but they had that play 4-5 times for big gains
was extra giddy last night. THis team has been beat up on and off the field since late 2012. Last week felt good but last night felt like a rebirth. They just look tremendous. You don't put up nearly 80 pts in two weeks by accident.
That game felt a lot like @ philly 2011. Cruz breaks out much like Donnell broke out last night. Big crunching road win that has to put the NFL on notice just a little bit.
Donnell...how long is that dude's fuckin contract. Holy fuck he's good.
You would think by now we(fans in general)would show a little patience before making concrete statements.
You would think. Users on this board have been watching football for a long time, yet when it comes time to panic, conventional wisdom and common sense goes out the door first thing. Kind of like how Eli is declining or finished or awful because he's had to play with a crap offensive line for 2 years.
You would think by now we(fans in general)would show a little patience before making concrete statements.
Isn't a concrete statement that the Giants don't have the worst TEs in football? Shouldn't we be patient and wait to see where we rank at the end of the season?
You would think by now we(fans in general)would show a little patience before making concrete statements.
Isn't a concrete statement that the Giants don't have the worst TEs in football? Shouldn't we be patient and wait to see where we rank at the end of the season?
You enjoy your roll, don't you? But seriously, is this is all you bring to the board?
last night's game had everything you could ask for:
our no name tight ends with 4 touchdowns OMG
an eli manning scramble TD
a nassib and robinson sighting
our secondary picking everything off in site
imposing our will on both lines
getting the redskins to tap out on their home field - man they looked bummed!!
All important things as well, but you are kidding yourself if you don't think the change in Offense isn't a big component of what we are seeing these past few weeks.
I'd love to know the last time Eli went over 70% comp percentage in back to back weeks, and then add in 6 passing TD's to 1 (BS) INT in those 2 weeks. And then add in 2 convincing wins against good defenses.
This entire offense looks different and (I believe) much better and more sustainable. If you don't see that, well, I am not sure what you are watching.
It is nice to be back on the other side of the humiliating drubbings;
and laughs head over to the ExtremeSkins game thread from last night. What a shit show of epic proportion featuring the biggest collection of ham n egg mouthbreathers since Paulie and his special forces team invaded Poland in the 70's.
and laughs head over to the ExtremeSkins game thread from last night. What a shit show of epic proportion featuring the biggest collection of ham n egg mouthbreathers since Paulie and his special forces team invaded Poland in the 70's.
umm, it's week 4 - folks probably need to relax. it's a long season with many ups and downs; so we'll see. but obviously if we can continue to run-block well and give eli time (and folks catch the ball), we should be fine offensively. and the d is obviously creating turnovers; but we'll see how it goes with better o's and qbs - since they won't face hou and was every week. but yes, lots to be excited about so far.
We get to root for New Orleans and San Fran, both of whom have a good shot. SF is desperate, and I really don't think the Eagles are that good, especially on defense. Dallas has their usual issues, and NO needs a win desperately too.
All the while, that awesome score from our game will be popping up on the ticker every once in a while. HA!
I was very happy the Giants kicked ass last night. This may be because of the tough game the Skins played against the Eagles four days earlier. That game was played as though it was a playoff game. Very physical game. Based on what I saw, the Skins didn't look like they came to play. They looked flat footed and slow. I think they were just beat up and tired. Injuries always hurt more when you lose. I'm not making excuses for the Skins. I'm just merely making an observation. I realize the Giants played 4 days earlier as well, but it wasn't the same type of game. I am curious to see if anyone else viewed the game this way.
Spent the offseason saying we had to draft that ND TE in the first
Spent the weeks starting with preseason posting endlessly that Eli couldn't adapt to the new offense. Well my only excuse is that I'm 84 and senile. My Dad took me to all Giant home games from 1938 to 1941..
I was very happy the Giants kicked ass last night. This may be because of the tough game the Skins played against the Eagles four days earlier. That game was played as though it was a playoff game. Very physical game. Based on what I saw, the Skins didn't look like they came to play. They looked flat footed and slow. I think they were just beat up and tired. Injuries always hurt more when you lose. I'm not making excuses for the Skins. I'm just merely making an observation. I realize the Giants played 4 days earlier as well, but it wasn't the same type of game. I am curious to see if anyone else viewed the game this way.
This is pretty much the #1 reason I thought we had a good chance to win. Washington was coming off a brutal, emotional, divisional game. By comparison, our game against Houston was fairly workmanlike. I thought our team would have a lot more in the tank for last night, especially late in the game if it was still competitive.
56, Greg
GMANinDC : 9/22/2014 5:41 pm : link : reply
The addition of Hatcher..he command a double and clogs the middle..He suffered a hamstring injury and might be slowed. That will be a test for Walton..
McCoy was dancing all game..he didn't hit the whole hard at anytime and was stacked up a lot..I think he missed a yards dancing in the backfield. That being said, they have been pretty good against the run with Hatcher..
The LB'er is non-factor and they have Fletcher's replacement in Keenan Robinson..They have no one to play in space against TE's and slants..
Secondary is the biggest weakness.. They have 2nd year player Amerson who has been beat a few times and have to star they're 4th rod draft pick Breeland on the other side with Hall's absence..Merriweather is a head hunter and Clark is very slowed..
The NYG might not have a big running game against them, but i think the short passes and hurry up is going to to kill them..
Oh, and their special teams suck..Big Time..
The line is also weak..They cannot run block well or Pass protect will..Houston line ate them up..Philly has no one to pressure them..
Speaking of lines, Philly lost most of them during the game and before..They had about 4 new guys playing and they still did not give up a sack..
GMANinDC : 9/24/2014 4:56 pm : link : reply
They had 10 sacks against Jax and none against Philly or Houston..Philly played with a completely new OL because of injuries and ejections and the Skins still didn't get a sack off of Foles..
If the Giants continue with the short, quick passing and no-huddle, it would neutralize Kerrigan and Orakpo..
I think the DL is going to to give their OL fits..The running game with Morris has not been as dynamic as last year because they lost Montgomery and the right side has been porous. Trent Williams is the best guy on that line..
This is going to be a low scoring game for the Skins..I can't see them putting up more than 20 points..
Eli, Larry Donnell, and Prince Amukamara all played outstanding games. DRC's addition has made Prince's life much easier. The o-line was also fabulous.
The only negative was Herzlich. On 2 separate plays, he was completely clueless. It was ugly to watch.
The non-TD on the Randle play was quite possibly the worst call I've ever seen. If that's not a TD, then WTF are we doing?
I have never understood that. All a RB has to do is have posession & inch it over the line. Why not a WR. Randle was clearly across the line with posession.
So, yes, it was the magic system. You guys must also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.
McAdoo had washington guessing and panting for oxygen
Dominant Eli performance. Neutralized Haseltt's blitzing. Owned that D.
YAC from receivers.
Larry pro bowl Donnell
O-Line, kept eli clean and good run blocking generally
Preston Parker
Jennings
Hillis - dude was a mack truck last night
weatherford/ST coverage units
pass rush
the prince!!
rest of the secondary - 4 picks and almost a 5th
Opportunities for improvement
couple of easy drops + randle needs to ensure full concentration until the whistle - second time he's turned the ball over at the goal line in last two years
ST return unit
constantly fooled by play action pass/wide open running backs - not sure which LB/safety was at fault or if it was fewell's design, but they had that play 4-5 times for big gains
That game felt a lot like @ philly 2011. Cruz breaks out much like Donnell broke out last night. Big crunching road win that has to put the NFL on notice just a little bit.
Donnell...how long is that dude's fuckin contract. Holy fuck he's good.
2014 495,000 - - - - - - 495,000 -
2015 ERFA
Sign this kid long term.
You would think by now we(fans in general)would show a little patience before making concrete statements.
You would think by now we(fans in general)would show a little patience before making concrete statements.
You would think. Users on this board have been watching football for a long time, yet when it comes time to panic, conventional wisdom and common sense goes out the door first thing. Kind of like how Eli is declining or finished or awful because he's had to play with a crap offensive line for 2 years.
You would think by now we(fans in general)would show a little patience before making concrete statements.
Isn't a concrete statement that the Giants don't have the worst TEs in football? Shouldn't we be patient and wait to see where we rank at the end of the season?
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the Giants had the worst TE's in football.
You would think by now we(fans in general)would show a little patience before making concrete statements.
Isn't a concrete statement that the Giants don't have the worst TEs in football? Shouldn't we be patient and wait to see where we rank at the end of the season?
You enjoy your roll, don't you? But seriously, is this is all you bring to the board?
Bravo.
our no name tight ends with 4 touchdowns OMG
an eli manning scramble TD
a nassib and robinson sighting
our secondary picking everything off in site
imposing our will on both lines
getting the redskins to tap out on their home field - man they looked bummed!!
I'd love to know the last time Eli went over 70% comp percentage in back to back weeks, and then add in 6 passing TD's to 1 (BS) INT in those 2 weeks. And then add in 2 convincing wins against good defenses.
This entire offense looks different and (I believe) much better and more sustainable. If you don't see that, well, I am not sure what you are watching.
Eli will win MVP one of these years I still believe.
lmao
All the while, that awesome score from our game will be popping up on the ticker every once in a while. HA!
This is pretty much the #1 reason I thought we had a good chance to win. Washington was coming off a brutal, emotional, divisional game. By comparison, our game against Houston was fairly workmanlike. I thought our team would have a lot more in the tank for last night, especially late in the game if it was still competitive.