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Small Tidbit by Polian this morning on Sirius Re Donnell

Big Blue '56 : 9/26/2014 10:11 am
He said he was told a few years ago by the Giants to "watch this guy Donnell." Apparently the Giants were not as desperate to find a TE as others have been..I would assume that his blocking will continue to be a work in progress..

Exciting times.
Donnell looks very natural catching the ball  
YAJ2112 : 9/26/2014 10:12 am : link
He needs to figure out how to land less awkwardly though. He's an injury waiting to happen with the way he hits the ground after contact.
Was he also told,  
Doomster : 9/26/2014 10:13 am : link
that Robinson was the JPP of TE's a few years ago?
Listen, as thrilled as I am with  
barens : 9/26/2014 10:15 am : link
Donnell, I don't think anyone would have predicted he's come through like this. I know he was someone that's been someone to watch out for, but to get these kind of results so far is astonishing.

BTW, is this his 2nd or 3rd year in the NFL?
Another small tidbit: Eli's Sinorice Moss Disease  
Marty in Albany : 9/26/2014 10:20 am : link
Receptions by Giants under 6-0: Zero receptions. With therapy, he can get it down to 5-11 and Beckham. (Grin)
Third year  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 9/26/2014 10:21 am : link
He was drafted in 2012 and spent two years on the practice squad.
RE: Third year  
Big Blue '56 : 9/26/2014 10:25 am : link
In comment 11885119 Bold Ruler said:
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He was drafted in 2012 and spent two years on the practice squad.


Is he a FA after this season?
He  
AcidTest : 9/26/2014 10:28 am : link
wasn't drafted (FA 2012), and yes, his contract ends in 2015. Becoming a must resign.
So does time  
Fred in Atlanta : 9/26/2014 10:29 am : link
on practice squad count towards when a player is up for unrestricted free agency?
RE: He  
Big Blue '56 : 9/26/2014 10:31 am : link
In comment 11885147 AcidTest said:
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wasn't drafted (FA 2012), and yes, his contract ends in 2015. Becoming a must resign.


Thanks Acid
RE: Third year  
Klaatu : 9/26/2014 10:32 am : link
In comment 11885119 Bold Ruler said:
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He was drafted in 2012 and spent two years on the practice squad.


Only one year on the PS, his rookie year. He was active for all sixteen games in 2013, but the foot injury he suffered in the summer set him back quite a bit. He mostly played special teams.
Reese  
Arcanum : 9/26/2014 10:38 am : link
Should be fired, for getting rid of Pope!!
had a great game  
bc4life : 9/26/2014 10:39 am : link
although after game was well in hand thought he may have gator armed a pass.

he's no secret now, he is going to have to continue to work on his blocking but also catch passes over the middle and get down quickly to protect himself.
RE: Third year  
pjcas18 : 9/26/2014 10:39 am : link
In comment 11885119 Bold Ruler said:
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He was drafted in 2012 and spent two years on the practice squad.


un-drafted FA signed in 2012
OK, basically disregard everything I said other than 3rd year  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 9/26/2014 10:40 am : link
lol.
RE: had a great game  
Big Blue '56 : 9/26/2014 10:45 am : link
In comment 11885188 bc4life said:
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although after game was well in hand thought he may have gator armed a pass.

he's no secret now, he is going to have to continue to work on his blocking but also catch passes over the middle and get down quickly to protect himself.


No doubt, but the DCs will now have to gameplan for him, which opens things up for Cruz and Randle..
Was watching the breakdowns  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2014 10:46 am : link
The skins put 5'11 230 pound LB Perry Riley on Donnell for 2 out of 3 of those TDs.

Donnell is 6'5-6'6 260
and  
bc4life : 9/26/2014 10:47 am : link
Beckham, Fells and Jennings can pick up their leftovers
can't coach speed  
bc4life : 9/26/2014 10:48 am : link
can't coach height
He is the classic mismatch  
PA Giant Fan : 9/26/2014 10:49 am : link
Too big for DBs, too fast with too good ball skills for LBs. He actually looks thin to me with a big frame. I can see him continuing to put muscle on too.
They were going for a fourth td,  
Doomster : 9/26/2014 10:50 am : link
and the Redskins were looking for it, and grabbed his facemask on one play, and bumped him on another.......
RE: Was watching the breakdowns  
Klaatu : 9/26/2014 10:51 am : link
In comment 11885228 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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The skins put 5'11 230 pound LB Perry Riley on Donnell for 2 out of 3 of those TDs.

Donnell is 6'5-6'6 260


First TD was Riley. Second was Meriweather. Third was a rookie CB whose name escapes me.
I think  
cnuke : 9/26/2014 10:55 am : link
Donnell spent 12 on the practice squad. So, this will be his 2nd credited year. I think think this means he will be an exclusive rights free agent after this year and a restricted free agent after next year. So, he will be a Giant next year. The year after, the giants will need to tender him at a given level and then will get the right to match any other offer.
RE: I think  
Big Blue '56 : 9/26/2014 10:56 am : link
In comment 11885269 cnuke said:
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Donnell spent 12 on the practice squad. So, this will be his 2nd credited year. I think think this means he will be an exclusive rights free agent after this year and a restricted free agent after next year. So, he will be a Giant next year. The year after, the giants will need to tender him at a given level and then will get the right to match any other offer.


Even better..Optimus?
RE: Third year  
Great White Ghost : 9/26/2014 10:57 am : link
In comment 11885119 Bold Ruler said:
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He was drafted in 2012 and spent two years on the practice squad.
I'm fairly certain he played in every game last year.He was active roster, not PS.
he ran a 4.91 40 at his Pro Day  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/26/2014 10:58 am : link
and we all know Pro Day's exaggerate, so we're talking about a guy with almost 5.0 speed in the 40.

Yet he is somehow getting open with ease and his lack of speed isn't as big of a deal in the red zone where his size and ball skills become a real weapon for us.
RE: he ran a 4.91 40 at his Pro Day  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2014 11:00 am : link
In comment 11885285 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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and we all know Pro Day's exaggerate, so we're talking about a guy with almost 5.0 speed in the 40.

Yet he is somehow getting open with ease and his lack of speed isn't as big of a deal in the red zone where his size and ball skills become a real weapon for us.


Same with Jake Ballard.
Granted Boss was drafted in Round 5  
Big Blue '56 : 9/26/2014 11:02 am : link
But credit has to be given to Eli and not just Pope(before he left) for the play of Boss, Ballard, Bennett and now Donnell(so far)..Can't just be coincidence imv
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Robinson is faster than that  
jcn56 : 9/26/2014 11:02 am : link
and all it managed to do for him is to practically run himself off the roster.
I think it was Jordan Babineaux on AM who pointed out...  
Klaatu : 9/26/2014 11:02 am : link
That the vast majority of Jermichael Finley's TD receptions came in the red zone. Seems like McAdoo's trying to turn Donnell into a Finley clone...which is fine with me.
Osi - like Cruz  
bronxgiant : 9/26/2014 11:05 am : link
he is a good athlete with good feet. Just watched last game and this game. You will see his stutter step against the corners to get free when is wide. His release is also pretty good. He also have good strong hands. Just need to keep his feet more after the catch. Think we have a live one here.
RE: Granted Boss was drafted in Round 5  
Great White Ghost : 9/26/2014 11:05 am : link
In comment 11885300 Big Blue '56 said:
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But credit has to be given to Eli and not just Pope(before he left) for the play of Boss, Ballard, Bennett and now Donnell(so far)..Can't just be coincidence imv
You can't spell Elite without Eli+TE.
Osi  
Fred in Atlanta : 9/26/2014 11:05 am : link
Some small school players run slower 40's then there speed, because they don't know or have developed techniques to reduce time.
RE: RE: Granted Boss was drafted in Round 5  
Big Blue '56 : 9/26/2014 11:09 am : link
In comment 11885315 Great White Ghost said:
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In comment 11885300 Big Blue '56 said:


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But credit has to be given to Eli and not just Pope(before he left) for the play of Boss, Ballard, Bennett and now Donnell(so far)..Can't just be coincidence imv

You can't spell Elite without Eli+TE.


I see what you did there
maybe so about the small-school thing  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/26/2014 11:13 am : link
although he isn't a burner, I was pretty surprised that he only timed in at 4.91 at the 40yd dash. That's almost Offensive Tackle speed in the NFL. But he looks much quicker than that.

Eli was able to complete big plays with Jake Ballard here, so I don't think Donnell's lack of speed is going to keep him and Eli from connecting down the field. But I do think his lack of speed will limit him to a degree, but as long as he continues making big 3rd down catches and being a force in the RZ it won't matter.
Merriweather may have been the closest  
Killed the K-Gun : 9/26/2014 11:15 am : link
but he had to cover the outside to the boundary.

He could not get inside leverage and still keep his responsibility.

The Safety (Clark?) got caught peeking to the trips side. He's the one who goofed.
RE: Osi  
Killed the K-Gun : 9/26/2014 11:16 am : link
In comment 11885316 Fred in Atlanta said:
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Some small school players run slower 40's then there speed, because they don't know or have developed techniques to reduce time.


They cannot borrow from their agents to pay for the speed camps before the combine, as the post-draft payout is nowhere near a sure thing.
It was kind of McAdoo  
mrvax : 9/26/2014 11:16 am : link
to sit Donnell for a play and let Adrian Robinson catch a pass.
Come on guys  
OldPolack : 9/26/2014 11:20 am : link
give a lot of credit to Jr Killdrive.
Could it be...  
Klaatu : 9/26/2014 11:24 am : link
That just as some guys need time on the PS to get stronger, some can use their time to get faster? Maybe you really can teach speed?
part of the reason pope  
area junc : 9/26/2014 11:32 am : link
was let go was donnell and robinson's lack of development. he really went to bat for both of them. looks like donnell arrived a little late for coach pope but he was right all along

what is interesting about donnell is his blocking is improving. he's gone from being a complete liability to not really noticing he's out there on blocking plays which is good progress
pope being let go .. .  
dancing blue bear : 9/26/2014 11:42 am : link
imo, had more to do with a new OC, who wanted experienced coaches coaching the WCO and had a connection to him. Giants turned over half the Offensive coaching staff. I believe it was negotiated that Macadoo would come in and be able to pick a few coaches to come in with him. That experience in the new system was nec to implement.

Love me some Donnell. Great hands. big, great ups. and goes and gets the ball
Three touchdowns is nothing  
manh george : 9/26/2014 11:49 am : link
Donnell averaged 41.5 yards per completion as a qb for Grambling State, on one completion.
Not only has Donnell been excellent  
barens : 9/26/2014 11:49 am : link
In the red zone, but third downs as well. The last time a TE was counted on that much on pivotal plays was when we had Bavaro. And I'm not comparing the 2 players, but so far this season, he's been the go to guy when we need to move the chains or get in the end zone.
The Giants have always let it be known  
chris r : 9/26/2014 11:50 am : link
they liked Donnell. Pope praised him last year in an interview.
And the idiot makes yet another appearance on my thread.  
Big Blue '56 : 9/26/2014 11:54 am : link
Pope et al praised Robinson and others. Praising in public is one thing and is fine, praising a guy "off the record" to people associated with the game is something else..That usually carries more weight, at least to people who understand football, which you clearly don't.
This timed speed thing is ridiculous!  
idinkido : 9/26/2014 12:31 pm : link
First, they run in shorts. Let's see how fast they run with football equipment on. Second of all, quickness and agility really are the key. Donnell shows quickness and agility.
Donnell always came off as a good athlete to me  
Some Fan : 9/26/2014 12:44 pm : link
and certainly the right size for a TE. He had that one bonehead out of the back of the end zone play but flash to me even prior to this year. His play is no longer flashing though; it is all bright lights now!
I agree with Fred...small schools and combine numbers  
Some Fan : 9/26/2014 12:45 pm : link
are like kids who take SATs without the Kaplanm course. They would have done better if they went to teh course.
RE: And the idiot makes yet another appearance on my thread.  
chris r : 9/26/2014 3:22 pm : link
In comment 11885474 Big Blue '56 said:
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Pope et al praised Robinson and others. Praising in public is one thing and is fine, praising a guy "off the record" to people associated with the game is something else..That usually carries more weight, at least to people who understand football, which you clearly don't.


You're pretty grumpy for a guy who should be reveling in the fact that his infinite patience and faith in the regime has led to a 2-2 start.

If you paid attention you would have realized that the Giants were high on Donnell without having to have heard it from Polian.
BB56  
steve in ky : 9/26/2014 4:04 pm : link
If true it is disturbing they would have been openly talking about what they then perceive as a potential gem left on the practice squad.
he wasn't on the PS last yr  
Dave : 9/26/2014 4:18 pm : link
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