whos better and why? DRC or Prince?

DRC has played pretty well... The one series he was off the field, the Redskins moved the ball a lot easier.

He's been matched up with Calvin, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitz and Garcon/Jackson the last few weeks and the only one that really impacted the game was Calvin...

I think he's lived up to the hype and more, our CB duo of Price and DRC is probably top 3ish? in the league.

I like Prince a lot and think he's probably the best #2 CB in the league, but, DRC is better in my mind.

Prince is more of a complete player but DRC is slightly better in coverage because there really aren't any WR's in this league who can outrun him or get away from him. Prince is more physical, tackles better and is better in run support.

They're different players but they're an excellent tandem

against the Falcons.

has been picked on far more than DRC so far this year; not sure if that is because DRC has provided more blanket coverage or just due to luck.

Prince has been very stout so far this year; he's not perfect, but he's been making very solid plays in coverage and in the run game; he does a great job of staying with his receiver while knowing where the ball is...very strong fundamentals.

he has a tendency to avoid contact and might check out mentally during games. He frequently seems to forget his techniques, gets a handful of jersey, etc. If I were his coach, I'd be harping on his mental game and trying to convince him to develop consistency.

Prince is a young man who's still maturing as a person, and the NFL experience is building him into a very good CB. He needs to work on his ball skills and some of his pass recognition still needs work. He played a lot of zone in college, but his coverage game is evolving just fine. DRC is probably the better pure athlete, but there's little to find fault with Prince, imo. I was really hoping they'd draft a bookend to pair with him, rather than spend via UFA.

we are lucky to have them both

I think Prince has been better this year, he's just such a well-rounded CB. He's built really well and has always been strong but for whatever reason he seems to be playing faster this year. Even though Demps got that INT, Prince outran Garcon to that ball and it was impressive to watch.

But I still trust DRC more against the elite WRs in one on one situations, he's just a special player athletically.

and his worst game was against the best WR and that game was a spankfest anyway.

I havent looked at video yet.. I dvr the games rewatch (the wins) maybe Im not giving his coverage enough credit.

With Rolle playing like he's getting paid those 3 make the secondary flat out scary. Its at the point now when an opposing QB rushes a pass I just expect our 2ndary to make them pay.

I can recall.

As for being picked on, people have it reversed.

because DRC is covering teams #1 WR he's still getting thrown at, but both are having very good years.

According to PFF (strictly coverage stats):

DRC:
Thrown at: 27 times
Completed: 13
Yards: 179
Completion %: 48.1
TD: 1
INT: 1
PD: 3
NFL QB Rating allowed: 66.7

Detroit and Calvin Johnson skews this a lot he caught 6 of 9 passes for 126 yds and 1 TD on DRC

Prince:
Thrown at: 16 times
Completed: 8
Yards: 140
Completion %: 50
TD: 0
INT: 2
PD: 3
NFL QB Rating allowed: 40.6

DRC shadowed Jackson the entire game (according to Connor) and held him to 1 catch for 9 yards.

In comment 11886107 pjcas18 said:

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I can recall. As for being picked on, people have it reversed. because DRC is covering teams #1 WR he's still getting thrown at, but both are having very good years. According to PFF (strictly coverage stats): DRC: Thrown at: 27 times Completed: 13 Yards: 179 Completion %: 48.1 TD: 1 INT: 1 PD: 3 NFL QB Rating allowed: 66.7 Detroit and Calvin Johnson skews this a lot he caught 6 of 9 passes for 126 yds and 1 TD on DRC Prince: Thrown at: 16 times Completed: 8 Yards: 140 Completion %: 50 TD: 0 INT: 2 PD: 3 NFL QB Rating allowed: 40.6

I'm still trying to make up my mind which pair is better - DRC & Prince or Sehorn & Sparks.

was better than Prince or DRC. He was the second best cover CB in the game for a few years.

Is this a joke? DRC held djax to 1 catch for 9 yards

Why do you think every other member of the secondary got an int and he didn't? Because they are better than DRC?! Love prince, and he is killing it this year but QBs won't even throw to DRC

In comment 11886122 chris r said:

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was better than Prince or DRC. He was the second best cover CB in the game for a few years.

maybe for 1 year (97)

better....

Sehorn played in a much different era. These guys can't even touch WR's now. They're hard to compare.

was better than any of them up to this point. Prince has that quality about him. Quiet, smart and technically proficient. Prince is better than DRC

but he's no slouch in coverage either.

Prince's INT .. after he caught the int
he ran to the other side of the field he had a wall of giants in front of him
i thought he was going to take it to the house

the only problem
NOT ONE PLAYER IN THAT WALL OF GIANTS MANAGED TO BLOCK ANYONE

Roy Helu just went right past the wall of giants and tackled Prince

should not be on the punt coverage team.....

Silly, silly, silly. He's not a good tackler anyway.

but Prince is th Exeter all-around defender. He's much more physical and a better tackler. I think they compliment each other pretty well.

In comment 11886174 giantfanboy said:

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Prince's INT .. after he caught the int he ran to the other side of the field he had a wall of giants in front of him i thought he was going to take it to the house the only problem NOT ONE PLAYER IN THAT WALL OF GIANTS MANAGED TO BLOCK ANYONE Roy Helu just went right past the wall of giants and tackled Prince

Yep, the giants D are nothing like the Ravens or the Steelers in getting defensive scores.

They need more practice! Even the "returner" Demps was unimpressive running back the INT.

In comment 11886107 pjcas18 said:

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I can recall. As for being picked on, people have it reversed. because DRC is covering teams #1 WR he's still getting thrown at, but both are having very good years. According to PFF (strictly coverage stats): DRC: Thrown at: 27 times Completed: 13 Yards: 179 Completion %: 48.1 TD: 1 INT: 1 PD: 3 NFL QB Rating allowed: 66.7 Detroit and Calvin Johnson skews this a lot he caught 6 of 9 passes for 126 yds and 1 TD on DRC Prince: Thrown at: 16 times Completed: 8 Yards: 140 Completion %: 50 TD: 0 INT: 2 PD: 3 NFL QB Rating allowed: 40.6

So if you remove Megatron, who's inhuman, DRC's numbers are:


DRC:
Thrown at: 18 times
Completed: 7
Yards: 53
Completion %: 38.9
TD: 0
INT: 1
PD: 3
NFL QB Rating allowed: 23.8

this one doesn't seem too bad, but usually all it does is leads to guys inadvertently trashing players on their own team, in the interest of "being right".

Why does one have to be better than the other? Just be happy we have them both. Why does everything have to be a debate?

In comment 11887382 BigBlueShock said:

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Why does one have to be better than the other? Just be happy we have them both. Why does everything have to be a debate?

Exactly, are we putting them in a cage match? They both play for us, and they're both playing well. Who cares about some kind of overall rating of them, and where each stands?

I'm not sure if we will face a better WR tandem then Jones and White.

In comment 11887382 BigBlueShock said:

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this one doesn't seem too bad, but usually all it does is leads to guys inadvertently trashing players on their own team, in the interest of "being right". Why does one have to be better than the other? Just be happy we have them both. Why does everything have to be a debate?

ESPN mentality. Creating controversy where none exists.

In comment 11887382 BigBlueShock said:

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this one doesn't seem too bad, but usually all it does is leads to guys inadvertently trashing players on their own team, in the interest of "being right". Why does one have to be better than the other? Just be happy we have them both. Why does everything have to be a debate?

Everyone should be a winner!

In comment 11886110 ImaGiant86 said:

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Quote: DRC... I have to say I expected more so far. He hasnt been horrible, overall he's played well but considering he was brought in to be a blue chip guy in the secondary I have not been terribly impressed. Holding out for a breakout game.

So I said he played well but Im an idiot for not having a statue built for him because he help DeSean Jackson to one catch? Not sure anyone has noticed but Jackson hasnt done much all year. He caught an 81 yarder vs. Phili. Even with that he's putting up less than 4 catches and about 50 yards a game this year. Jackson is the 3rd leading reciever on his own team. Take away the one big play and he's 5th in receiving yards. Maybe he breaks out but right now the key to beating Wash isnt shutting down Jackson.

In comment 11887424 chris r said:

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In comment 11887382 BigBlueShock said: Quote: this one doesn't seem too bad, but usually all it does is leads to guys inadvertently trashing players on their own team, in the interest of "being right". Why does one have to be better than the other? Just be happy we have them both. Why does everything have to be a debate? Everyone should be a winner!

Im new to BBI... are we not allowed to discuss two guys who play the same position? They are different players with different skill sets but both are pretty good. I was honestly getting a feel for which guy the knowledgeable posters of BBI valued more. If you cant discuss this kind of stuff without it turning into a dick measing contest what *can* you discuss?

I would've said DRC even though I'm huge Prince fan because, as good as Amuk has been, he hadn't been generating turnovers.

It's early, but that seems to have changed. If they trend continues, I'll take Prince over DRC.

Seems abit extremeskins like we have an abundance of riches and can't firgure out how abundant.

That said, I like DRC a lot better than Prince, alhough Prince has been playing well.