How in hell is that not a TD. He caught the ball; had complete unmitigated control and had both feet on the ground in the end zone. The rules don't say whether it has to be 2 seconds or five minutes. A nanosecond should suffice. Didn't complete a football play? Huh? Play is over when he did the 3 things above.What- does he have to do a salsa to finalize the TD? Just ludicrous.
Given that, why would it be different if the ball came out because a defender forced it out?
He controlled the ball he got his feet down and then bam... the safety comes in and knocks the ball out.
It's a touchdown IMO.
I've NEVER seen the refs disallow a TD for that reason.
I can see that play being negated OUTSIDE the end zone (maybe), but now when the ball clearly crosses the plane of the end zone.
[quote] he was in the damn end zone with 2 feet down. Why does he need to make a football move? [/
I was screaming, the same shit
BTW,,,did Ryan Clark play last night?
No he doesn't, not in the end zone. They confirmed he had two feet down, they fell back on football move I believe.
then it would have been reviewed and probably been called a td
i think the fact that it was INT made the refs rule the way they did
this was discussed on other threads. you do not have to make a football move to complete a catch. the rule book says you have to "control the ball long enough to make an act common to the game". As Carey said on the broadcast "it is a timing issue".
Replay should have proved that point .
Whatever if we didnt score what then ?
That no-TD call was just as bad.
If a millisecond before the defender knocked the ball loose, Randle spiked it, it 100% would have been a touchdown. Think about that.
If a millisecond before the defender knocked the ball loose, Randle spiked it, it 100% would have been a touchdown. Think about that.
Probably not.
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Why not? Prior to the ball being knocked out, Randle had completed the touchdown.
The fact that even skins fans think it was a TD says enough to me. And I don't care if you want to pull the rule book out, that call was as bad as the Tuck rule.
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Yes ... it was bang-bang ... but I thought after review ... it was a TD. Ended up not mattering (thank goodness).
CATCH
A catch is made when a player inbounds secures possession of a pass, kick, or fumble in flight (See 8-1-3).
Note 1: It is a catch if, in the process of attempting to catch the ball, a player secures control of the ball prior to it touching the
ground and that control is maintained during and after the ball has touched the ground.
Note 2: In the field of play, if a catch of a forward pass has been completed, and there is contact by a defender causing the
ball to come loose before the runner is down by contact, it is a fumble, and the ball remains alive. In the end zone, the same action is a touchdown, since the receiver completed the catch beyond the goal line prior to the loss of possession, and the ball is dead when the catch is completed.
By the rules, it is a touchdown.
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CATCH
A catch is made when a player inbounds secures possession of a pass, kick, or fumble in flight (See 8-1-3).
Note 1: It is a catch if, in the process of attempting to catch the ball, a player secures control of the ball prior to it touching the
ground and that control is maintained during and after the ball has touched the ground.
Note 2: In the field of play, if a catch of a forward pass has been completed, and there is contact by a defender causing the
ball to come loose before the runner is down by contact, it is a fumble, and the ball remains alive. In the end zone, the same action is a touchdown, since the receiver completed the catch beyond the goal line prior to the loss of possession, and the ball is dead when the catch is completed.
By the rules, it is a touchdown.
But if Randle had caught the ball, secured it, got two feet down, then fallen down and lost it upon hitting the ground, it'd be called incomplete, correct?
So why would the call be different if a defender forced it out, and in less time than it would've take Randle to fall and lose it from hitting the ground?
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