WTF happened to Michigan as a program?

Increase player salaries and the bribes paid to the "uncles" who procure the players.

is the answer.

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dream.

Do Michigan players get free crack as well as steroids?

I didn't know that...

In comment 11887348 Jon in NYC said:

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dream.

Dan Mullen is a name to watch for.

Hoke may have to go mid-season. Its shameful for such a proud program.

Just suck it up already and bring him in

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It's sad when you pine for the days of John Navarre. Lol

Seems you've gulped down the Brady Hoke Cool-Aid. Since when is Ohio a rival or opponent of Michigan? You can't call Ohio State by their proper name? You have to play that silly ass game? Eh.. Get your jollies where you can. Here you go... Mark Dantonio is a better coach than Michigan will ever see. He takes 3 star prospects and gets more out of them than Hoke could ever wish to get out of 5 star prospects. Why would a kid out of high school want to go to Michigan now? They've been of no consequence since these kids were 13 years old or younger. Good luck with your new coach.

He started strong and has gone downhill since. Hello?

They get HGH there at no cost. Further advanced than steroids.

That's an old standard...

of the Big Ten right now is clearly MSU.

It's only a matter of time before Mich recruits look elsewhere, and that's really all they have right now.

opening post. Why is it a big shock that Michigan isn't very good?

Since 2005 their records have been...
2005 7-5
2006 11-2
2007 9-4
2008 3-9
2009 5-7
2010 7-6
2011 11-2
2012 8-5
2013 7-6

They have tradition, but HS kids could care less about that. Also, as I said, Dantonio is a better coach with a better program.

and BRAD.
It's really painful to watch them now.
More painful to root for them.

If you're not mad at me, I need your Gilda Radner "never mind" pic on the Atlanta D thread.

Dot that I Woody!

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Rock bottom?

what happened to Miami...the U?

is in a down period. Recruiting to the Rust Belt/ Upper Midwest may have something to do with it. Maybe players are starting to realize that Alabama or LSU offers a better lifestyle than can be had in the cold ass, dreary confines of Big Ten territory.

In comment 11887464 ballanda said:

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Rock bottom?

what condescending bullshit. I seem to recall michigan losing to a 1AA team and going 3-9 another year. Rutgers is a quality program.

and terrible coach. Get both out ASAP, and write a blank check for Les or a Harbaugh

is in a terrible place right with a mediocre coach in Golden.

They struggled to beat Duke at home and face likely road loses to GT and VT as well as a blowout loss to FSU (again).

This is a mediocre program now.

Michigan still has a chance if they are willing to play the games that Ohio State is doing to rebuild.

Sonic,
Appalachian St baby, started my own collegiate water bottle business, had ECU, App St, UNC, UNCW, NC St, USC and the Chicago Blackhawks ( just to keep Dav happy), didn't pan out, not due to lack of effort but after App St beat Michigan, they were my #2 seller behind UNC, even during March Madness.

Michigan's dead. No need for robot O lineman anymore. They can't recruit without ND on the schedule. Ding Dong, Long live the Big Ten...

In comment 11887673 Rocky Thompson said:

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Sonic, Appalachian St baby, started my own collegiate water bottle business, had ECU, App St, UNC, UNCW, NC St, USC and the Chicago Blackhawks ( just to keep Dav happy), didn't pan out, not due to lack of effort but after App St beat Michigan, they were my #2 seller behind UNC, even during March Madness. Michigan's dead. No need for robot O lineman anymore. They can't recruit without ND on the schedule. Ding Dong, Long live the Big Ten...

yup, I remembered it was app state, but I was hoping to make it seem worse by saykng 1aa team cause everyone knows app st was cream of the crop 1aa back then and prob could beat 30% if not mpre of d1 teams on any given saturday in that time frame. Shit man, that was my first football wknd as a college student. Huge expectations for Rutgers that year. Fun times

Cost me a lot of my savings.

Oh, well, tough to be original as an independent with Coke and Pepsi on your ass every day.

Gave it a shot...

because he had a few down years against Ohio State and lost to Appalachian State in 2007. They pretty much have to write a blank check to Les Miles or Jim Harbaugh to have any chance of salvaging the program over the next few years

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Very interesting and telling article. If they want to jettison Brady's fat ass out of there, which I'm sure they do, that situation is as good as anywhere to start. The whole trust issue is a real thing and will be used against them by other coaches during future recruiting visits.

First-Tier Candidates:

5. Cam Cameron, LSU Offensive Coordinator

Doesn’t it seem like Cam should be 70 years old by now? Cameron was on the Michigan staff from 1983-1993, and was QB coach for Jim Harbaugh, Elvis Grbac and Todd Collins. Cam LOVES Michigan and has worked for ‘Michigan’ guys for much of his post-Ann Arbor career.

Cameron was head coach for Steve Ross’s Dolphins for a year, OC for John Harbaugh in Baltimore for five seasons and has been OC at LSU for Les Miles this season. Cam’s experience could provide a major boost for Michigan’s offense, and would also likely keep Greg Mattison as DC given the many years they’ve worked together: 92-93 at Michigan and 2008-10 in Baltimore. Even though it feels like he’s been around for centuries, Cam is only 53 years old.

4. Les Miles, LSU Head Coach

If Dave Brandon is still the AD after this season (not a guarantee with a faltering football program and new university president), Miles becomes less likely to ever get a shot at the Michigan job. Brandon has a widely known ‘beef’ with Miles, and there are rumors that Miles and Brandon still have issues that resulted from Miles’ behavior as a Michigan coach in the early 1990′s (Google ‘Les Miles Gary Moeller” sometime).

If Miles were offered the job, he would 100% take it. In this interview with MLive.com this summer, Miles made it very clear that he’d take the Michigan job if an offer came his way.

3. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M Head Coach

Sumlin has plenty of admirers at Michigan, but hasn’t registered interest in the job. It would take a boatload of money and convincing, but Sumlin could end up in Ann Arbor if the athletic department decides it wants him badly enough. Some wealthy alumni are enamored with Sumlin, and think he’s the next Urban Meyer.

2. Tyrone Wheatley, Buffalo Bills Running Backs Coach

Wheatley is the true wild card in this scenario. The former Michigan All-American RB is doing an impressive job with the backs in Buffalo this season, and will likely get an NFL OC job somewhere next summer if a head coaching job doesn’t materialize. Wheatley is a rising star in coaching circles, and made his way to the NFL remarkably quickly. He would KILL IT on the recruiting trail, but would have to hire an all-star cast of assistant coaches to help him settle in as a first-time head coach.

1. John Harbaugh, head coach, Ravens

Nothing would make the transition in Ann Arbor smoother than if Harbaugh took the job. Make no mistake, John loves Michigan as much – or more than – his brother. Given his age (51) and massive prior success, he would be a home run hire, rivaling Urban Meyer to Ohio State as the best college football coaching move in recent memory. You don’t often find a NFL head coach less than two years removed from a Super Bowl championship taking a college job, but this may be a rare case.

Why this makes sense:

1. Rumor has it that Harbaugh is fuming about being undermined by Ravens management in the Ray Rice fiasco. It isn’t hard to see why
2. He would KILL in recruiting – he’s basically his brother with a better attitude
3. He LOVES Michigan, and reportedly always wished he could have played for Bo Schembechler
4. Harbaugh has accomplished all he can in the NFL, and isn’t as enamored with Baltimore now that Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are no longer anchoring the team
5. With the NFL (and his team in particular) getting torched in the media on a daily basis, the timing for a move to college has never been better

Michigan would likely have to offer him a seven year, $50 million+ contract to make a deal happen.

A coordinator? Happy the kid has made it as a coach bit boy was he one of bunch of disappointments. Tiki finally stopped fumbling to erase failed RB string EA had going. IIRC

Recruiting to Michigan should be easy .Ann Arbor is one of the most awesome towns in the country.The academics are rated in the top 25 of all universities.The graduate schools and alumni network are amongst the best in the country.My daughter goes to Michigan.The kids there all love the school.Hoke just can't recruit or coach.

Wow. Never knew he was involved in the NFL at any capacity. With that being said, pass.

In comment 11887765 hilary f said:

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Recruiting to Michigan should be easy .Ann Arbor is one of the most awesome towns in the country.The academics are rated in the top 25 of all universities.The graduate schools and alumni network are amongst the best in the country.My daughter goes to Michigan.The kids there all love the school.Hoke just can't recruit or coach.

Hoke's actually a great recruiter. They have talent there, he just can't coach for shit and it cracks me up.

In comment 11887816 Jon in NYC said:

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In comment 11887765 hilary f said: Quote: Recruiting to Michigan should be easy .Ann Arbor is one of the most awesome towns in the country.The academics are rated in the top 25 of all universities.The graduate schools and alumni network are amongst the best in the country.My daughter goes to Michigan.The kids there all love the school.Hoke just can't recruit or coach. Hoke's actually a great recruiter. They have talent there, he just can't coach for shit and it cracks me up.

He's having a tough time hanging into big recruits now. Losing hand, harris, and Campbell in the last two years. I understand it's because of the product in the field.

I believe Mattison is a better recruiter than hoke though.

In comment 11887512 Crispino said:

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is in a down period. Recruiting to the Rust Belt/ Upper Midwest may have something to do with it. Maybe players are starting to realize that Alabama or LSU offers a better lifestyle than can be had in the cold ass, dreary confines of Big Ten territory.

Plus, they pay better.

Was at Syracuse with Marrone. It's pretty easy to be a good RB coach when you have Spiller and Jackson in the backfield.

does Hoke still have his job today? Hell how does the medical staff keep their jobs?

In comment 11891338 MookGiants said:

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does Hoke still have his job today? Hell how does the medical staff keep their jobs?

Medical staff said that they didnt get a chance to look at Morris before he was re-entered in the game.

How Hoke still has a job? Simple. Him and Brandon are best friends. They are going to go down together.

a bullshit excuse from the medical staff. They should have gone onto the field and taken him off the field. They can't sit their with their thumbs up their ass and say well we didnt get a chance to evaluate him.

Is Schiano on the radar? Team him up with Jeff Haffley (on his TB staff, currently an assistant with the Browns) for recruiting and it could be a viable possibility

was that Jabril Peppers was benched by Hoke because he made a big play in practice and he yelled to his DBs coach "Thats why I need to play."

Now Peppers has transfer on his mind. The whole team is a shit show.

Never thought I'd see the day when Rutgers was favored over Michigan.

I think this just shows how important coaching is in the college game. Certain guys always win, anywhere they go.

it just has to be fattening.

Go Bucks.

my Blue. Nothing lasts forever tho - we will bb...