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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/28/2014 10:14 am
Packers at Bears
Bills at Texans
Titans at Colts
Panthers at Ravens
Lions at Jets
Buccaneers at Steelers
Dolphins at Raiders
I get to watch the Lions and Jets. Lucky me  
Anakim : 9/28/2014 11:38 am : link
Go Jets
My picks  
State of the Giants 14 : 9/28/2014 12:49 pm : link
Bears
Texans
Colts
Ravens
Lions
Steelers
Dolphins

Wow. Not many compelling games. Maybe just Packers bears and I don't think this one will be close. Smith vs Carolina, who cares? I think those games where a team faces his old team/playing in former teams building are overrated. It's just another game. "How will they react?" Who cares?

Go Lions  
NewBlue : 9/28/2014 1:03 pm : link
Even though it could hurt us I will never root for that team
Jets running all over Detroit  
PetesHereNow : 9/28/2014 1:09 pm : link
Surprising so far.
Anyone see the phantom hands to the face call  
BlueHurricane : 9/28/2014 1:11 pm : link
On Peppers? Even the announcers saying it was a terrible call.
RE: Go Lions  
Danny Kanell : 9/28/2014 1:11 pm : link
In comment 11888146 NewBlue said:
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Even though it could hurt us I will never root for that team


+1
That call on Peppers was..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/28/2014 1:12 pm : link
actually against the Bears and would have wiped out a 3rd down conversion. The refs are just baffling this year.
You have to say at this point they are purposely swaying games  
BlueHurricane : 9/28/2014 1:14 pm : link
There is no other logical explanation for what is happening this year.
Bears do not have any defense  
yalebowl : 9/28/2014 1:29 pm : link
Packers will win this game if they trade touchdowns. The visiting team usually wins these NFC Norris division games. Packers need a win more at this point in the season.

If not it the knifes will come out on Wisconsin talk radio this week. Packer fans are still not over the Giant playoff wins.
Golden Tate is killing the Jets defense  
Exit 172 : 9/28/2014 1:32 pm : link
on 3rd down.
There are no consequences for the weekly officiating abominations,  
Exit 172 : 9/28/2014 1:36 pm : link
so why would anything change?
Forte  
Montreal Man : 9/28/2014 1:39 pm : link
running right through the Pack. Beautiful holes opening for him and the other guy.
Rogers  
Montreal Man : 9/28/2014 1:40 pm : link
scored on about three passes. It was a like a blitz.
surprising to no one:  
santacruzom : 9/28/2014 1:49 pm : link
Steve Smith is ripping his old team's head off and crapping down its neck.
Terry McCaully crew  
dep026 : 9/28/2014 1:50 pm : link
going for worst officiating crew you will ever see. 3 badly blown calls already.
the replacement officials  
MookGiants : 9/28/2014 1:50 pm : link
I mean real officials have been horrific in the green bay game. They've blown at least 5 calls, including one where they called illegal use of hands to the face on the wrong team and didnt correct it
now  
MookGiants : 9/28/2014 1:51 pm : link
another horrible call to give the Packers a first down. These guys are worse than the replacement officials
Two REALLY, REALLY, REALLY  
Montreal Man : 9/28/2014 1:53 pm : link
bad, bad, bad defensive penalty calls on the Bears. Even the announcers said the personal fouls were non-existent. Football is turning into s**t thanks to the officials.
This Jets game is about as exciting as watching my dog  
fredgbrown : 9/28/2014 1:54 pm : link
take a dump.
Rodgers may go for 500 today  
dep026 : 9/28/2014 1:54 pm : link
Bears defense is unbelievably bad.
until  
MookGiants : 9/28/2014 1:54 pm : link
the media actually starts giving a shit about how bad the officials are and goes after them like they went after the replacement officials, nothing is going to change. It was disgraceful the way the replacements were attacked when they were no worse than the regular ones and would have only gotten better with experience
santacruzom -  
Exit 172 : 9/28/2014 2:00 pm : link
Don't let Steve Smith's numbers fool you. He had a 61-yard TD that wasn't even intended for him. Bounced off his teammate's hands and magically landed in his as he was running full speed into open field.

He's done little else otherwise, so far.
RE: until  
TexasGmenFan : 9/28/2014 2:00 pm : link
In comment 11888216 MookGiants said:
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the media actually starts giving a shit about how bad the officials are and goes after them like they went after the replacement officials, nothing is going to change. It was disgraceful the way the replacements were attacked when they were no worse than the regular ones and would have only gotten better with experience


+1

line 'em all up and put the uniforms on anyone in the lineup at random and you'd get little deviation in the results.

the problem is the complete and utter subjectivity of all the "new" rules.
I'm glad Donnell is emerging  
Montreal Man : 9/28/2014 2:02 pm : link
but Martellus is a beast. What if we had them both in this new offense.
nice play call  
tator : 9/28/2014 2:07 pm : link
for a bears TD..
Fooled everyone on GB
Bad officiating  
Buck Dharma : 9/28/2014 2:08 pm : link
Super Bowl XL was the worst officiated professional or major college championship game I have ever witnessed and the television networks remained silent about that travesty. Don't hold your breath waiting for the media to take the NFL to task over the terrible officiating.
94  
MookGiants : 9/28/2014 2:11 pm : link
on the Bears had an easy onside recovery but for some unknown reason never looked for ball
Bears  
yalebowl : 9/28/2014 2:14 pm : link
Have no pass rush. Not even close to Rogers.
Antonio Brown  
dep026 : 9/28/2014 2:14 pm : link
may be the most underrated player in football.
Only  
donald92 : 9/28/2014 2:15 pm : link
a matter of time before Vick replaces Geno.
clear PI on Brown there  
knicks3031 : 9/28/2014 2:16 pm : link
but Dep I just said the same thing to my buddy earlier. He's a hell of a player
nice  
MookGiants : 9/28/2014 2:16 pm : link
spot by the official there. This game is both entertaining as hell and a train wreck at the same time
....  
yankees78 : 9/28/2014 2:21 pm : link
The jets are weird
Steve Smith Sr is having a day.  
arcarsenal : 9/28/2014 2:21 pm : link
You knew he was going to be charged up for this one
Rodgers has clean uniform  
yalebowl : 9/28/2014 2:21 pm : link
You can't beat Rodgers if you give all the time in the world to pass and get him out of the pocket and on the turf. You also have to get to him with 4 linemen ala the Giants.
Sucks.. I was targeting Brown in both fantasy leagues..  
arcarsenal : 9/28/2014 2:22 pm : link
Because I felt like he was being taken below his value (a lot of leagues he lasted til the 3rd) but I couldn't get him in either one
Ravens 21-7  
pa_giant_fan : 9/28/2014 2:22 pm : link
Steve Smith with 2 td rec.
Welcome to New Jet City  
Headhunter : 9/28/2014 2:23 pm : link
Geno Smith the new big thing
Nice Hail Mary  
Headhunter : 9/28/2014 2:26 pm : link
if Geno was throwing to a beer vendor
i think  
MookGiants : 9/28/2014 2:28 pm : link
Bennett crossed the line but i dont know how you overturn it based on that replay.
If thats not a TD for Bennett  
dep026 : 9/28/2014 2:28 pm : link
Cutler should be reamed out.
You can't see it from the angles.  
arcarsenal : 9/28/2014 2:29 pm : link
He might have but there's no clear cut shot. They won't give him the TD. Damn
the NFL  
MookGiants : 9/28/2014 2:30 pm : link
needs some type of goal line technology
Bears have no chance to win  
dep026 : 9/28/2014 2:31 pm : link
because their defense cant stop Rodgers will all their injuries. But you gotta get points there.
bobble  
tator : 9/28/2014 2:32 pm : link
it sure looked like a bobble on that play for Chicago
Yeah I'm surprised they don't have some sort of sensor technology..  
arcarsenal : 9/28/2014 2:32 pm : link
..that runs across the plane and can pickup the ball crossing it.
JJ Watt  
est1986 : 9/28/2014 2:33 pm : link
has 5 QB hits in the first half. Impressive stat.
Can we not have an overhead camera on the goalline?  
Geomon : 9/28/2014 2:34 pm : link
It would make things a lot simpler.
I got Antonio Brown in my 12-team league for a 7th-rounder  
Exit 172 : 9/28/2014 2:36 pm : link
because he was a keeper, and I used a 7th on him last year.

One of the biggest values I've ever had in fantasy. I didn't expect him to be this good this year.
RE: RE: until  
Moondwg : 9/28/2014 2:38 pm : link
In comment 11888223 TexasGmenFan said:
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In comment 11888216 MookGiants said:


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the media actually starts giving a shit about how bad the officials are and goes after them like they went after the replacement officials, nothing is going to change. It was disgraceful the way the replacements were attacked when they were no worse than the regular ones and would have only gotten better with experience



+1

line 'em all up and put the uniforms on anyone in the lineup at random and you'd get little deviation in the results.

the problem is the complete and utter subjectivity of all the "new" rules.


Unfortunately, the hacks like Peter King will go after "scabs" but not the permanent bad refs.
Bears defense  
dep026 : 9/28/2014 2:48 pm : link
may be worse than the Redskins. In fact, I dont think its close.
It was nullified by a penalty...  
Dunedin81 : 9/28/2014 2:53 pm : link
but Rodgers had one of the prettier TD throw you'll see, with a Bear draped all over him.
Another  
AcidTest : 9/28/2014 2:53 pm : link
TD for Baltimore. Mauling Carolina. 28-7, with just under ten minutes left in the third.
Neither the Bears or Packers have punted yet today.  
arcarsenal : 9/28/2014 2:54 pm : link
2014 NFL. All year, baby!
Soldier Field  
yalebowl : 9/28/2014 2:56 pm : link
Tidbit about Soldier Field. Their are four levels on the west side. The idiot who designed it left out restrooms and a vendor area for food or drinks. So if you go down at half-time from the 4th level to the 3rd level good luck making it back to the 4th level before the 3rd quarter ends due to the crowds on the stairwells.
JJ Watt  
dep026 : 9/28/2014 2:58 pm : link
wow.
RE: JJ Watt  
dpinzow : 9/28/2014 2:58 pm : link
In comment 11888299 dep026 said:
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wow.


Thank goodness Pugh did a good job on him last week :)
Packer Pick  
yalebowl : 9/28/2014 3:01 pm : link
Packers reverting to form
Jay Cutler  
dep026 : 9/28/2014 3:01 pm : link
so fucking overrated. Last two drives have single handily cost Bears points.
RE: Packer Pick  
yalebowl : 9/28/2014 3:02 pm : link
In comment 11888304 yalebowl said:
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Packers reverting to form


Make that Bears
Bears  
dep026 : 9/28/2014 3:06 pm : link
was the perfect remedy for the Packers offense. They wont punt until the game is out of hand.
Not that I'm watching  
bceagle05 : 9/28/2014 3:12 pm : link
but God are the Raiders fucking awful. Getting their doors blown off by a mediocre Dolphin team.
time to turn  
MookGiants : 9/28/2014 3:14 pm : link
this game off, Bears are finished. Where the hell was Cutler throwing that?
Rex Ryan - what a guru  
Giants2012 : 9/28/2014 3:14 pm : link
Momentum about to swing and his defense gives up a 90 yard drive.

Way to go Rex
Anybody watching the Jets-Lions?  
Gene : 9/28/2014 3:15 pm : link
What's the rule on that Stafford TD? His foot hit the pylon, but I didn't think the ball crossed the goal line. Is that still a TD?
On the Jets game, Stafford was just ruled to have scored....  
Crispino : 9/28/2014 3:18 pm : link
a TD because he touched the pilon. However, the ball was at least a yard short or reaching the goal line when he touched the pilon. TD? I thought the ball had to break the plane.
Can  
SoZKillA : 9/28/2014 3:18 pm : link
The Raiders stay in London?
Bears making my day easier  
yalebowl : 9/28/2014 3:19 pm : link
I have to knock on doors after the Packers-Bears gathering signatures for a local petition drive. Will have a better reception if Packers continue to carve up the Bears. Packer fans are not very friendly after losses. TVs have bullet holes, spouses are abused, and they go into a funk.
Extend the goal line to infinity  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 3:20 pm : link
He crossed inside the pylon. That's a td.
...  
Man In The Box : 9/28/2014 3:22 pm : link
These refs in the Bears-Packers game are atrocious.
The penalty on the Packers FG  
dep026 : 9/28/2014 3:22 pm : link
should be reason to fire everyone officiating this game. This may go down as the worst officiated game ever in the NFL. This is worse than Steelers-Seahawks in the SB.
Geno got fucking wrecked  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 3:23 pm : link
That was beautiful
RE: Geno got fucking wrecked  
dpinzow : 9/28/2014 3:23 pm : link
In comment 11888329 glowrider said:
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That was beautiful


Here come the "we want Vick" chants
Carolina looks like dogshit.  
arcarsenal : 9/28/2014 3:24 pm : link
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LOLJets  
arcarsenal : 9/28/2014 3:25 pm : link
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Terrible kick  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 3:25 pm : link
Had to get some points off the interception
The Raiders should just quit.  
arcarsenal : 9/28/2014 3:29 pm : link
What a pathetic franchise.
Haha Jets are the gift that keep on giving  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 3:29 pm : link
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DeAngelo Williams is fucking glass  
SHO'NUFF : 9/28/2014 3:30 pm : link
that's what I fucking get for starting that bastard
....  
yankees78 : 9/28/2014 3:32 pm : link
Quote:
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yankees78 : 2:21 pm The jets are weird


rinse...repeat
Glow, he crossed the goal line by touching the pilon.  
Crispino : 9/28/2014 3:33 pm : link
However, he ran parallel with the goal line and the ball never crossed the plane. It has nothing to do with extending the plane upwards to infinity.
RE: The Raiders should just quit.  
terz22 : 9/28/2014 3:34 pm : link
In comment 11888336 arcarsenal said:
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What a pathetic franchise.


Haha this
RE: Glow, he crossed the goal line by touching the pilon.  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 3:36 pm : link
In comment 11888341 Crispino said:
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However, he ran parallel with the goal line and the ball never crossed the plane. It has nothing to do with extending the plane upwards to infinity.


Not upwards - outwards. He crossed before coming down out of bounds from the replay.
Extend the plane outward?  
Crispino : 9/28/2014 3:43 pm : link
What? You mean to tell me that if I make a catch coming back to the ball out of the end zone, my toes are in the end zone and I catch the ball at the 2 that it's a TD?
This is not a difficult concept so I'm not sure what the issue is  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 3:47 pm : link
The goal line stretches across a football field from pylon to pylon. It is literally painted on the field. The goal line does not stop at the pylons, however. That line continues to infinity past the pylon, use your imagination to visualize this.

Your body can cross the goal line inside the pylon while in the field of play and the ball can be outside the pylon the same time. If it crosses before the play is blown dead, it's a touchdown.
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Gene : 9/28/2014 3:50 pm : link
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Extend the plane outward?
Crispino : 3:43 pm : link : reply
What? You mean to tell me that if I make a catch coming back to the ball out of the end zone, my toes are in the end zone and I catch the ball at the 2 that it's a TD?

Theoretically speaking the goal line extends from the pylon all the way to the 1st row of the stands, so if the ball swung around the outside it would be considered a TD.

However I agree with you, because when Stafford went out of bounds the ball was nowhere near the goal line.
Detroit is throwing this game away  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 3:52 pm : link
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My question is simple. Can you score by touching the pilon without ...  
Crispino : 9/28/2014 3:53 pm : link
the ball ever having broken the plane?
The ball clearly crossed the sideline, but never the goal line plane.
Antonio Brown  
Dave in PA : 9/28/2014 3:53 pm : link
just dropped a flea flicker BOMB that would have easily gone for 60 yards minimum
RE: Detroit is throwing this game away  
Greg from LI : 9/28/2014 3:56 pm : link
In comment 11888364 glowrider said:
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The Jets offense is bad enough to make that impossible. What a brutal drop by Ivory.
The ball has to cross the goal line. You can land with your head  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 3:56 pm : link
In the endzone but ball not crosses.

Hope this link to the replay works. Stafford clearly hops out over the inside of the pylon before coming down out of bounds. It's pretty clear.
Link - ( New Window )
Can't believe the Jets punted  
NYerInMA : 9/28/2014 3:58 pm : link
On 4th and 2. I don't think they're going to get the ball back now.
This Jets game  
Gene : 9/28/2014 3:59 pm : link
has the stench all over it that they're going to pull it out because of a weird officiating decision ala Tampa Bay-New England.
A Jets win helps the Giants  
NYerInMA : 9/28/2014 4:00 pm : link
Since the Lions are in the NFC and have the head-to-head tiebreaker. I hate the Jets but I'd like to see them pull this out.
The Jets offense is just unbelievably bad  
Greg from LI : 9/28/2014 4:02 pm : link
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This was an ugly game. Detroit should've ran away with it  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 4:02 pm : link
Sloppy all around and they're lucky to get out of there with the W despite all efforts to the contrary.
fuck Chris Johnson  
SHO'NUFF : 9/28/2014 4:02 pm : link
dude does next to nothing all day and then breaks free for a TD...
This is the first time I've see it...  
Wuphat : 9/28/2014 4:03 pm : link
WTF are the Bucs wearing?
jETS LOSE!!  
NewBlue : 9/28/2014 4:05 pm : link
Yes I know it could hurt us....but I am so happy
RE: The Jets offense is just unbelievably bad  
kepler20 : 9/28/2014 4:07 pm : link
In comment 11888377 Greg from LI said:
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Their QB is the problem.
this play calling by buc is brutal.  
kepler20 : 9/28/2014 4:10 pm : link
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On both sides of the ball  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 4:16 pm : link
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Keith River just cost the bills a chance  
Walt in MD : 9/28/2014 4:17 pm : link
Just sat there as foster caught the ball and rolled 2 yards for a first down. Stupid play. Unaware.
Rivers.  
Walt in MD : 9/28/2014 4:18 pm : link
My bad
Horrible punt and the Bucs are starting on the wrong side  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 4:18 pm : link
Of the field.

This could be a screamer
Wow. Down to the 5yrd line with 15 secs to go  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 4:19 pm : link
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Tampa to the 5  
WeatherMan : 9/28/2014 4:19 pm : link
20 seconds and 3 shots at the end zone to steal it
All three Florida teams changed their uniforms for the worse  
Greg from LI : 9/28/2014 4:20 pm : link
In the past few years
Steelers  
MookGiants : 9/28/2014 4:20 pm : link
get away with another penalty
Louis Murphy sighting.  
kepler20 : 9/28/2014 4:20 pm : link
Big play for bucs
What a finish  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 4:21 pm : link
Bucs just stole one.
wow  
MookGiants : 9/28/2014 4:21 pm : link
Bucs take the lead with 7 seconds to go.
Let's all point at the Steelers and laugh, children  
Greg from LI : 9/28/2014 4:21 pm : link
Bahahahaha.....nice punt
godawful punt, 41 yard catch and run by Murphy  
WeatherMan : 9/28/2014 4:21 pm : link
now Jackson with the likely game winner. What a choke job by the Steelers.
Lol bucs  
eli4life : 9/28/2014 4:22 pm : link
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RE: Louis Murphy sighting.  
mfsd : 9/28/2014 4:23 pm : link
In comment 11888400 kepler20 said:
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Big play for bucs


Haha yup, Louis Legend set up the winning TD for the Bucs

That guy is a knife!

And hey, anyone who makes a stadium full of Steelers fans shut the fuck up is OK in my book
and lulz at Randall Gay  
Greg from LI : 9/28/2014 4:23 pm : link
Gets away with blatant PI and then has the gall to whine for a call against Jackson on the TD.
Bucs game  
FloridaGfan : 9/28/2014 4:23 pm : link
Is this the same Louis Murphy that played for the Giants last year?
Whoah  
Sonic Youth : 9/28/2014 4:24 pm : link
Tampa pullin that out was pretty crazy.

I know it's been discussed here, but wow, Diehl sounds like he's been broadcasting for 10+ years. He'll be a top pairing broadcast guy from the looks of it.
I would've line drives that on the field and make them field it  
glowrider : 9/28/2014 4:25 pm : link
Burn the clock. Don't like that kickoff
Yes.  
AcidTest : 9/28/2014 4:25 pm : link
That is the same Louis Murphy. What a game. Unreal.
On a side note  
eli4life : 9/28/2014 4:25 pm : link
I enjoy David Diehl in the booth
RE: Bucs game  
Sonic Youth : 9/28/2014 4:26 pm : link
In comment 11888410 FloridaGfan said:
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Is this the same Louis Murphy that played for the Giants last year?

Yes
RE: Whoah  
AcidTest : 9/28/2014 4:26 pm : link
In comment 11888413 Sonic Youth said:
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Tampa pullin that out was pretty crazy.

I know it's been discussed here, but wow, Diehl sounds like he's been broadcasting for 10+ years. He'll be a top pairing broadcast guy from the looks of it.


Agreed. Diehl sounds really good. I'm sure there are some mistakes. It's his first year. But he already sounds very knowledgeable and smooth. He seems to know when to stop talking.
ahhh  
kepler20 : 9/28/2014 4:28 pm : link
Time to watch EDP cry.
Love it! TB pulling that out  
micky : 9/28/2014 4:29 pm : link
Lol
Aaron R.  
AnishPatel : 9/28/2014 6:31 pm : link
had a great day stat wise. I can see how the system works in terms of completion percentage as well.
RE: My question is simple. Can you score by touching the pilon without ...  
GeofromNJ : 9/28/2014 9:06 pm : link
In comment 11888365 Crispino said:
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the ball ever having broken the plane?
The ball clearly crossed the sideline, but never the goal line plane.
As I read these rules, it seems to me that Stafford did not score a touchdown.

Article 1 Touchdown Plays. A touchdown is scored when:
(a) the ball is on, above, or behind the plane of the opponents’ goal line and is in possession of a runner
who has advanced from the field of play; or
(b) a ball in possession of an airborne runner is on, above, or behind the plane of the goal line, and some
part of the ball passed over or inside the pylon; or
(c) a ball in player possession touches the pylon, provided that, after contact by an opponent, no part of
the player’s body, except his hands or feet, struck the ground before the ball touched the pylon; or
(d) any player who is legally inbounds catches or recovers a loose ball (3-2-3) that is on, above, or behind
the opponent’s goal line; or
(e) the Referee awards a touchdown to a team that has been denied one by a palpably unfair act.
NFL Scoring rules - ( New Window )
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