Schefter: Ndamukong Suh Wants to Play for the Giants

Don't care how good he may be. Do not want him on the Giants roster.

Pass............

But "we explore everything"

I would love him on this team. Him and Hankins, along with JPP and Da Monster? FUCK. YES.

do I dislike the guy, but do you really want a guy whose reason for coming to NY is to "build his brand"?!

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Don't want him anywhere near the Giants' roster.

We need to get more bang for our bucks, instead of sinking a lot of money in one player.....of course it would be nice to have him, but not while creating cap problems, that we are just digging ourselves out of....

Our defense would be immediately better with Suh. I love the way he brings the pain and nasty attitude to every game. He's obviously a great player but the attitude would be a welcome addition to our defense which, even when it plays at a high level, never seems to frighten any offenses. I don't know about the cap and all that, but I'd love to have his ability and attitude on our team.

save Rex Ryan's job.

I have no idea how are cap space is looking next year or whether he would fit in alongside Hankins, but if you add him to the DL and the secondary indeed plays up to the potential you might have the makings of a pretty good defense.

Lets just see how this season plays out.

With the Jets playing Detroit today, this is probably why it became a small story but I wouldn't rule out the Giants. I thought getting DRC from the Jets was a pipedream. We made that happen and with some certain contract changes and restructuring in the offseason, not to mention a huge jump to the salary cap over the next few years this could happen too. Say what you want about his reputation but I think he's maturing and you can't deny the talent. He's one of four NFL players under RocNation. One is Geno Smith but one of the others is Victor Cruz (the fourth is Hakeem Nicks, btw). I'm sure there will be conversations, if there haven't been already back in week 1

Of what, being a dirty prick?

In comment 11887973 BigBlueCane said:

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save Rex Ryan's job.

That implies Rex makes it to next year. Not so sure that happens if they wins up 6-10/7-9

will never pay him what he will get somewhere else.

don't need Suh on their DL. They are going to need to upgrade their secondary and perhaps add another LB.

I could see the Cowboys making a bid considering their sketchy defense, but their precarious cap situation would just bury them further down the road.

Bears make some sense. I don't see the Giants giving up such a huge deal. I think we will see us make a few moderate signings if any at all this coming offseason, perhaps another OL, S and maybe some depth additions.

on defense in MetLife will ring nicely with the chants of Cruuuz. This man would be an absolute beast on our DLine. You are talking about an all pro DT on this defensive line. Put us in the SB if we sign him.

And I don't see the Giants paying Suh the money he'll be looking for. (Although Reese was in on Haynesworth.)

Reese reportedly "went hard" after Haynesworth. There are few bigger pieces of shit than that guy.

Why? I don't want that fuck anywhere near this team. Take out the fact he is an idiot and selfish player, why would you want to handcuff our cap space on a DT? Are our DTs not playing well? Yes, he is a talent but not a guy you give out a crazy contract to. Why would we let Linval go for a team friendly price tag when we know what he can do on this team, in this system and with these player/coaches to give Suh a monster contract with all these variables?

Probably Manning as well, for the simple reason that if we want to keep him we have a shitload of contracts that come up in 2016 and that just won't be a good time to write him a new one.

Does Suh have any character issues besides being greedy? Also is it hypocritical to say we think Cruz was supposed to resign because of endorsements and branding opportunities available in NY, but not when it comes to another player who wants to do the same?My concern is what kind of person is he? A known douche, or no?

With the JPP, Prince resignings as well as possibly Eli (though that would probably save money for the 1st year). You have to look 2,3,4 years down the road. Not realistic cap wise.

Coughlin would shape him up in terms of taking cheap shots instantaneously

The following players are the notable players currently not under contract through 2015.

OFFENSE
Henry Hynoski
Larry Donnell
John Jerry

DEFENSE
Mike Patterson
Jacquian Williams
Spencer Paysinger
Mark Herzlich
Zack Bowman
Walter Thurmon
Antrel Rolle
Stevie Brown

Safety looks to be top priority.
I doubt we make a play for Suh.
2015 Giants Cap - ( New Window )

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I don't follow Suh much other than what i have seen on the field. Has he had any off the field issues?

Couldn't the Giants add something to his contract if he signed along the lines of the dirty behavior thing? Say he gets fined 3 times in the season for illegal whatevers...couldn't we void his contract?

I'd rather keep Hankins at a 1/2 of the price of Suh and add another Hankins caliber player than have Suh and some scrub.

In comment 11888003 Daniel in Kentucky said:

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The following players are the notable players currently not under contract through 2015. OFFENSE Henry Hynoski Larry Donnell John Jerry DEFENSE Mike Patterson Jacquian Williams Spencer Paysinger Mark Herzlich Zack Bowman Walter Thurmon Antrel Rolle Stevie Brown Safety looks to be top priority. I doubt we make a play for Suh. 2015 Giants Cap - ( New Window )

It would be difficult. Giants have to extend Rolle, sign JPP and possibly extend Eli this offseason (although JPP and Eli are still under contract in 2015). That being said, creating a new Bank of Eli where he takes a big pay cut in 2015 and gets paid handsomely from 2016-2018 to add a lot of cap room is possible

the Giants would have ever had. If he wants to come and if it makes sense cap wise, sign him.

Our priority will be Rolle

In comment 11888011 dpinzow said:

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In comment 11888003 Daniel in Kentucky said: Quote: The following players are the notable players currently not under contract through 2015. OFFENSE Henry Hynoski Larry Donnell John Jerry DEFENSE Mike Patterson Jacquian Williams Spencer Paysinger Mark Herzlich Zack Bowman Walter Thurmon Antrel Rolle Stevie Brown Safety looks to be top priority. I doubt we make a play for Suh. 2015 Giants Cap - ( New Window ) It would be difficult. Giants have to extend Rolle, sign JPP and possibly extend Eli this offseason (although JPP and Eli are still under contract in 2015). That being said, creating a new Bank of Eli where he takes a big pay cut in 2015 and gets paid handsomely from 2016-2018 to add a lot of cap room is possible

Not a lot of guys on that defensive list we should worry about bringing back. If OBJ looks to be a player on O than we should be focusing on the D in the draft. Safety and LB being our biggest needs. Such would be a great addition but I believe the cap money needs to be spent elsewhere.

Love to see him with the Giants. JPP, Suh, Hank, and Moore, would be a killer front four. With the right help, Suh, would be fine.

I love Rolle as much as the next guy here, he's a great player and a great leader. But you don't break the bank trying to re-sign a 32 going on 33 year old safety and miss out on a stud DT in his prime because of it. You build for now and the future. You might get one or two more good years out of Rolle before the decline hits. You'll get at least four great years out of Suh unless major injuries hit, but you can't plan for that.

I thought the Giants were in pretty good cap shape next year too. They should have enough money to get JPP, Eli, one of Rolle/Prince locked away and then I don't see why they wouldn't have money for Suh too unless he asks for the moon. But if he wants a ton of money, this is silly to talk about in the first place. He's going to get paid big time but if it's at least somewhat reasonable and works under the cap, you go for it. You might have to let Prince walk but you draft some combination of CB/DE/S/LB and let that defense rock and roll. JPP/Suh/Hankins/Moore would be an amazing young DL.

Build his brand? Why not? It is a business, after all.

In comment 11888003 Daniel in Kentucky said:

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The following players are the notable players currently not under contract through 2015. OFFENSE Henry Hynoski Larry Donnell John Jerry DEFENSE Mike Patterson Jacquian Williams Spencer Paysinger Mark Herzlich Zack Bowman Walter Thurmon Antrel Rolle Stevie Brown Safety looks to be top priority. I doubt we make a play for Suh. 2015 Giants Cap - ( New Window )

Keep in mind that if we sign Suh, Jenkins is getting cut which would save over $2 million in cap space. No way the Giants are paying Kiwi $7.5 million so that's more saved money. Eli and Prince will get extended which will save a ton of space. Plus there's no guarantee we keep both Beason AND McClain considering age, injury risk and salary. If we want Suh we can do it with cap space to spare.

It's easy to get creative with the cap to make things work. As long as it's not an insane contract that would crush them down the road, they can work something out. The issue is how much money teams with a ton of cap space will throw at him. Does he really want to win in a big city or does he want the biggest contract possible. I guess we'll see. It's fun to think about though.

that wanted the Giants to overpay for Alex Mack.

No and no!

Suh will get between 16 and 20 million per. I'd rather purchase 2 $10M star players- thank you very much. I'm glad the Giants would never consider Suh at that price.

If JPP has a good year, we'll be shelling out enough cap already.

In comment 11887968 River Mike said:

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do I dislike the guy, but do you really want a guy whose reason for coming to NY is to "build his brand"?!

This. Nuff said.

who would've said this before the season started..nothing against you GWG..just a laugh

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We have to pay Rolle and Donell this offseason this offseason, Great White Ghost : 11:27 am : link : reply .....

Eli will take less money to insure Suh signing a team friendly long-term deal

If it's between signing Prince and Suh, who do you sign? Let's say Prince at the end of the season makes the Pro Bowl. We all know Suh is a pro bowler.

hes already made ~64m in his career and if he wants to increase his brand in nyc he should take less

there are already relationships in place with cruz (roc nation) and prince (nebraska)

it depends on if jay-z advises him to take the money like he did with cano or take less money to get into the desired market

In comment 11888009 chris r said:

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I'd rather keep Hankins at a 1/2 of the price of Suh and add another Hankins caliber player than have Suh and some scrub.

The Giants have done a pretty good job drafting DT's over the last decade, and Hankins and Bromley are still under contract for multiple years after 2014. Why would the guy playing next to Suh have to be a scrub?

Suh and Hankins anchoring our d line would be awesome.

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But I think Suh said it just to be annoying to us. If I'm Reese I do not rise to the bait and pretend I never heard it.

Jerry needs D and loves names. He also doesn't seem to care about the caps impact on the rest of the roster.

In comment 11888004 Some Fan said:

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^^^ This

Is going to want 20 million average a year. People forget jppis up soon. Pay sugh, u will not be able to pay jpp.

than spend QB money on a defensive tackle. Team's shown a good ability to find good DTs in the draft.

already the rumors are out that people 'within the Jets organization' are blaming the new GM for 'Holes on the roster'.