Fans, they're the worst

it makes sense in that context. But if you're going to count money, then i guess you can do whatever you like.

But the players aren't the ones ripping off the fans. It's Woody Johnson. The Maras. The Tischs. The players are out there sacrificing their bodies and it can't be fun hearing that type of reaction. Not saying the comments here are right (any smart player will just keep their mouth shut) but I don't think the OP's logic works here.

The attendees whistled and were very audibly upset. Pavarotti later said that he actually appreciated it. These were very knowledgeable opera fans who expect the very best and when his best wasn't good enough, they let him know in a very in your face manner. The fact that he appreciated that and understands that Scalla should be the home of the very best opera performances speaks volumes.

Where as modern day athletes who are paid ridiculous amounts of money by owners who make even more amounts of money expect the average Joe six-pack fans to praise them no matter what. Maybe these NFL players and all pro athletes can grow a pair and realize that their fans expect the best out of them. There is no crime in booing your favorite team when the team is putting out a poor effort. If it bothers them so much I'm sure their incredible pay check will be of some solace.

playoff contention booing makes no sense. You want them to win, right? Explain how dragging the mood of the team/stadium helps?

Booing is moronic. There are very few occasions that merit it. For example, Christmas Eve vs the Saints deserved it.

How often have players said, "It's a business?"

It is. And, the business is entertainment.

After shelling out all that money, and that doesn't even count the emotional investment, should you be satisfied with a lousy product?

When you go see a lousy movie do you tell the director, "It's OK. You'll get 'em next time."

When you get a crappy dinner at an expensive restaurant do you say to the chef, "At least you tried?"

Why should it be any difference with sports?

We just stop going..My father always told me it was classless to boo and I passed that down to my kids..However, I would have booed Tiki, I have to admit..

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they have every right to boo. No matter who says its boorish.

but it is boorish/classles imo

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In comment 11889914 Bold Ruler said:

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The attendees whistled and were very audibly upset. Pavarotti later said that he actually appreciated it. These were very knowledgeable opera fans who expect the very best and when his best wasn't good enough, they let him know in a very in your face manner. The fact that he appreciated that and understands that Scalla should be the home of the very best opera performances speaks volumes. Where as modern day athletes who are paid ridiculous amounts of money by owners who make even more amounts of money expect the average Joe six-pack fans to praise them no matter what. Maybe these NFL players and all pro athletes can grow a pair and realize that their fans expect the best out of them. There is no crime in booing your favorite team when the team is putting out a poor effort. If it bothers them so much I'm sure their incredible pay check will be of some solace.

I remember that. I heard him crack on one of the high C's in "Daughter of the Regiment" in Philly many, many years ago. But there were about five others in the aria, so he made up for it.

Miss his voice.

But does booing really accomplish anything? All it does it give negative vibe to the players..

This is why St Louis Cardinals do good most years... their fans never boo and always applaud their players..

In comment 11889959 Big Blue '56 said:

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We just stop going..

No, it's not abusive. It showing your displeasure for receiving an inferior product. How else are you going to let them know you are not satisfied with the product? They don't put those customer survey cards at the entrance.

In comment 11889984 chuckydee9 said:

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But does booing really accomplish anything?

You don't think the "17 years of lousy football and we've had enough" didn't do some good?

as I see that as showing one's emotion for the play/game/situation. Now, if the fan starts to verbally accost the players or anyone else associated with the team for not performing well or winning, that's when it's escalated and the fan truly turns into a jackass.

and it was directed at Mara, not the players per se

In comment 11889984 chuckydee9 said:

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This is why St Louis Cardinals do good most years... their fans never boo and always applaud their players..

You cant be serious. The Cardinals "do good" most years because they have an incredible scouting and player development program/department that every year produces terrific young talent, and they have an ownership willing to spend on free agents when holes do pop up.

Playing in a division of, for the most part poorly run, low(er) budget franchises helps too (though the Cubs are finally starting to close the gap on the former)

The effect of the 'positive Cardinals fan' is incredibly overrated.


On this topic, I dont have a problem with people booing, though i do think it happens a little too often.

Fans boo results not "people". Most times they are booing "the team" as a whole. In most cases fans boo the "player" not the "person" (exception Barry Bonds, Ray Rice, etc...).

I don't personally boo teams or players that I support, but understand those that do. They do it out of frustration, and because they care.

Still, there are those who sit in the front rows and yell personal insults at specific players and that is wrong IMO. The price of your ticket does not give you that right.

If athletes don't want to be booed, they should also not expect to be cheered. We can vote with our dollar like with other products and services. That sounds pretty dull to me however.

In comment 11889914 Bold Ruler said:

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The attendees whistled and were very audibly upset. Pavarotti later said that he actually appreciated it. These were very knowledgeable opera fans who expect the very best and when his best wasn't good enough, they let him know in a very in your face manner. The fact that he appreciated that and understands that Scalla should be the home of the very best opera performances speaks volumes. Where as modern day athletes who are paid ridiculous amounts of money by owners who make even more amounts of money expect the average Joe six-pack fans to praise them no matter what. Maybe these NFL players and all pro athletes can grow a pair and realize that their fans expect the best out of them. There is no crime in booing your favorite team when the team is putting out a poor effort. If it bothers them so much I'm sure their incredible pay check will be of some solace.

LT was booed when he returned from his drug suspension in 1988. He sacked jay Schroeder on his first pass attempt and then caused him to fumble for a giants recovery on his next attempt.

The great ones use booing as motivation.

Pavarotti and LT were the best at what they did. Listen to Pavarotti singing o Soave fancuilla . The best. Just LT

Having said that, fans are the 100 percent worst part of sports along with the owners.

The players and coaches have actually worked to get into the stadium. Any idiot can buy a ticket and most do.

In comment 11889984 chuckydee9 said:

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But does booing really accomplish anything? All it does it give negative vibe to the players.. This is why St Louis Cardinals do good most years... their fans never boo and always applaud their players..

Ya pays yer money, ya takes yer pick

"This is the price you pay for the life you choose"

Unless you really just don't like the player you are booing, or if the team is clearly leaving it on the field, like not making a tackle to save your body.

But if another team is just better, which is going to happen, fans would rather boo and give up that home field advantage, and boo the players and team that you've loved all your life is just sad to me.

Every Giants game I've been to, just about every 3 and out there are boos.

the summer after the XXL Super Bowl. Three of us were having a drink and in walks Pierce, Tuck, Plax and Kiwanuka. They stayed for a few drinks and on the way out Pierce stops and looks me in the eye and says "How would you like it if your boss booed you?". I just stood there thinking what is this guy talking about, he then when on to say how much it sucks having the fans boo the players when they are trying their best. I really didn't know what to say to him so I agreed it must suck being booed.

After Super Bowl "42"

In comment 11890136 Mike in Rhinebeck said:

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the summer after the XXL Super Bowl. Three of us were having a drink and in walks Pierce, Tuck, Plax and Kiwanuka. They stayed for a few drinks and on the way out Pierce stops and looks me in the eye and says "How would you like it if your boss booed you?". I just stood there thinking what is this guy talking about, he then when on to say how much it sucks having the fans boo the players when they are trying their best. I really didn't know what to say to him so I agreed it must suck being booed.

What on earth made him bring that up to you?

In comment 11890136 Mike in Rhinebeck said:

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Pierce stops and looks me in the eye and says "How would you like it if your boss booed you?".

But, the fans aren't the boss. The fans are the customers. The boss should kick your ass if you aren't performing.

But they do get plates returned, often with comments. Like "this isn't what the customer expected" which was a particular complaint I always hated, because quite likely the idiot customer who doesn't like the scents of tumeric, cumin, cilantro and cinnamon mixed together didn't ask the fucking waiter what a "tagine" was before they ordered it and therefore had no idea it would have Middle Eastern/Oriental spices in it...

Actually when I was a chef I liked it when customers sent food back with a specific complaint that I can correct like "this rack of lamb is over-cooked" or "this pasta puttanesca is too spicy - hot".

Being a chef - you get as much direct and immediate feedback about your work as any profession except maybe live theater actors.

Stop stinking up the playing field and the boos will stop, except for a few idiots like the guy in the bleachers that used to yell out, every inning when he was in the field, "Rickey Henderson, you suck!"

I guess he wanted to vent to someone and had a few drinks in him.

In comment 11890254 Mike in Rhinebeck said:

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I guess he wanted to vent to someone and had a few drinks in him.

Mike, he may have ID'd you as one of the boo-ers at the Meadowlands

In comment 11890136 Mike in Rhinebeck said:

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the summer after the XXL Super Bowl. Three of us were having a drink and in walks Pierce, Tuck, Plax and Kiwanuka. They stayed for a few drinks and on the way out Pierce stops and looks me in the eye and says "How would you like it if your boss booed you?". I just stood there thinking what is this guy talking about, he then when on to say how much it sucks having the fans boo the players when they are trying their best. I really didn't know what to say to him so I agreed it must suck being booed.

Did you boo them as they walked into the bar?

One of my buddies told me to delete the tread so Pierce wouldn't get in trouble for sneaking out for a few drinks. Sure enough we went back to Shutters the next night and the bartender told us we missed Kevin Gilbride who was sitting at a table by himself all night long. Who knew BBI had so much influence.

I imagine how I would feel if people booed me trying to do my job. I get upset with my teams, but I think booing is a one way street and dumb

In comment 11890136 Mike in Rhinebeck said:

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the summer after the XXL Super Bowl. Three of us were having a drink and in walks Pierce, Tuck, Plax and Kiwanuka. They stayed for a few drinks and on the way out Pierce stops and looks me in the eye and says "How would you like it if your boss booed you?". I just stood there thinking what is this guy talking about, he then when on to say how much it sucks having the fans boo the players when they are trying their best. I really didn't know what to say to him so I agreed it must suck being booed.

When they give their very best effort, which I believe is 90% of the time, they don't deserve to get booed.
However, when they don't (e.g. Atlanta game in 2003) they deserve to be booed all the way out to the parking lot.
Honest day's pay for an honest day's work.

you never get yelled at on the phone by a frustrated client?

Nobody likes it - but sometimes it's deserved.

in my place of work, we have what's known as a medical executive committee. If you have a bad outcome, you don't even have to screw up, just a bad outcome, and you will be called on the carpet and you had better have a good explanation.all I can say is, that's life. You don't like it, find another line of work.I won't boo at the drop of a hat,but if I'm upset enough I will make my displeasure known.during the 60s and 70s, if remotes had been invented I would probably have bought a lot of TVs.

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"If you're getting booed, you probably deserve it." - ( New Window )

Get respect. Its one thing to be disappointed with your team for poor performance and throw a few boos. Quite another to be verbally abusive. People take this leisure activity awfully seriously. Some need to get a real life.

"...if they're yelling at you, you probably deserve it."

In comment 11890300 Headhunter said:

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I imagine how I would feel if people booed me trying to do my job. I get upset with my teams, but I think booing is a one way street and dumb

Agreed...

You have an emotional connection to your football team. We live vicariously through them. When our players do not perform well, are getting their ass kicked, play at less than 100% etc, it's very easy to allow an emotional release like booing.

It's really just the opposite of applause when the team is doing very well.

Going beyond booing and into verbal abuse...I agree with Nate, it's way, way out of line.