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NFT: First case of Ebola in the US confirmed

DanMetroMan : 9/30/2014 4:59 pm
CDC: Ebola confirmed in Dallas patient

A patient in a Dallas hospital has been confirmed to have the Ebola virus, News 8 has learned.Read on wfaa.& #8203;com

From WFAA:

In a statement issued Tuesday night, Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas said the patient was admitted based on symptoms and "recent travel history."

The hospital, located at Greenville Avenue and Walnut Hill Lane in northeast Dallas, said it's complying with all recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and the Texas Department of Health to ensure the safety of other patients and medical staff.
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From the CDC  
spike : 9/30/2014 9:00 pm : link
When an infection does occur in humans, the virus can be spread in several ways to others. Ebola is spread through direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with

blood or body fluids (including but not limited to urine, saliva, feces, vomit, and semen) of a person who is sick with Ebola
objects (like needles and syringes) that have been contaminated with the virus
infected animals
Ebola is not spread through the air or by water, or in general, food. However, in Africa, Ebola may be spread as a result of handling bushmeat (wild animals hunted for food) and contact with infected bats.

Healthcare providers caring for Ebola patients and the family and friends in close contact with Ebola patients are at the highest risk of getting sick because they may come in contact with infected blood or body fluids of sick patients.
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RE: RE: keep those  
Cam in MO : 9/30/2014 9:01 pm : link
In comment 11892195 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 11892185 Fish said:


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borders open



Yes. Let's immediately shut down the country's borders.


Holy fuck. Lettuce would be $15/head.

I'm already pissed at the price of turkey and chicken.

So if you can only get it from direct bodily fluid contact  
Joe in Knoxville : 9/30/2014 9:02 pm : link
Can somebody ask him who he swapped spit with in Liberia

Also I love the in it's current form statement in that article it basically opens the door for the writer to say well I said in it's current form I mean who knew a virus of all things would change over time I mean that's crazy right
As per Sanjay Gupta  
natefit : 9/30/2014 9:06 pm : link
bodily fluids include sweat. So this guy worked out on a bench and then you did and you had a small scrape on your leg that came in contact with the bench. You have been potentially exposed. Or say he sneezed near a handle and then you used that handle a minute later with a small cut on your hand. Same thing. To be serious a moment, look its not an epidemic but its not nothing either.
People losing their shit over this? Bad  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/30/2014 9:07 pm : link
People being condescending to those who are worried? Worse.

The majority of the annoying posts on this thread have come from kicker and co. Congrats kicker... you're so much better than anyone who gives a shit. Kudos.
I'd want to know who he  
spike : 9/30/2014 9:08 pm : link
came in contact during the week that he is withiin the US borders
RE: RE: The guy Flies in to the US on the 20th symptom free  
Cam in MO : 9/30/2014 9:08 pm : link
In comment 11892314 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 11892306 Canton said:


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On the 24 he was sick. Then waited 4 days before he reached isolation.

How many people did he sicken between then. Did he goto the grocery store? Gym? Mall?

How bad could it get? Ohh, the questions..



Unless he threw up on people or had unprotected sex in the grocery aisle I think we'll be okay...


Don't knock the whole grocery aisle thing until you try it.

RE: As per Sanjay Gupta  
spike : 9/30/2014 9:09 pm : link
In comment 11892502 natefit said:
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bodily fluids include sweat. So this guy worked out on a bench and then you did and you had a small scrape on your leg that came in contact with the bench. You have been potentially exposed. Or say he sneezed near a handle and then you used that handle a minute later with a small cut on your hand. Same thing. To be serious a moment, look its not an epidemic but its not nothing either.


damn in Africa, everyone is sweating.

Good thing Winter is coming.
RE: You're not catching Ebola from someone  
Cam in MO : 9/30/2014 9:10 pm : link
In comment 11892353 BlackLight said:
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unless you're sharing bodily fluids or needles with them.


Fuck.


So it's like HIV?  
Anakim : 9/30/2014 9:10 pm : link
Even so, you don't know how pissed off I get when I'm on the subway and some schmuck coughs or sneezes without covering his/her mouth. You asshole.
Hey, I have a bacterial gut infection called C. Difficile. Maybe I should wipe my ass with my hand and then stick my fingers down your motherfucking throat. Would you like that? Then stop fucking sneezing and coughing in my direction.


But I digress
RE: So it's like HIV?  
Cam in MO : 9/30/2014 9:15 pm : link
In comment 11892510 Anakim said:
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Even so, you don't know how pissed off I get when I'm on the subway and some schmuck coughs or sneezes without covering his/her mouth. You asshole.
Hey, I have a bacterial gut infection called C. Difficile. Maybe I should wipe my ass with my hand and then stick my fingers down your motherfucking throat. Would you like that? Then stop fucking sneezing and coughing in my direction.


But I digress



I totes sneezed on you in that bar that time while you were talking to the WWE bouncer guy.














On purpose.
RE: RE: So it's like HIV?  
Anakim : 9/30/2014 9:17 pm : link
In comment 11892521 Cam in MO said:
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In comment 11892510 Anakim said:


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Even so, you don't know how pissed off I get when I'm on the subway and some schmuck coughs or sneezes without covering his/her mouth. You asshole.
Hey, I have a bacterial gut infection called C. Difficile. Maybe I should wipe my ass with my hand and then stick my fingers down your motherfucking throat. Would you like that? Then stop fucking sneezing and coughing in my direction.


But I digress




I totes sneezed on you in that bar that time while you were talking to the WWE bouncer guy.














On purpose.


Haha, why do you think I wanted nothing to do with the Boilermaker you bought me? A dirty shot glass in my beer? NO. THANK YOU.
so dont let anyone  
spike : 9/30/2014 9:19 pm : link
spit or sweat on you.

Obviously dont have sex with people potentially infected with Ebola.
RE: so dont let anyone  
Anakim : 9/30/2014 9:27 pm : link
In comment 11892529 spike said:
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spit or sweat on you.

Obviously dont have sex with people potentially infected with Ebola.


Alright, guys:

Would you rather fuck an ebola-infected Kate Upton or a normal thumbs Megan Fox?
I warned you all  
Overseer : 9/30/2014 9:27 pm : link
the sheeple saunter blithely in lockstop, unaware of the dangers that simmer among us, primed to boil over. It's only a matter of time now. You think Obama can save us? You think the CDC can save us? A bloated bureaucracy that makes the VA look like the pinnacle of efficiency. Texas now. Soon Oklahoma, Kansas, California, Alaska, New York. There's nowhere to hide. It will spread like the cracks hurtling through freshly broken pond ice.

The only question is will it be millions dead...or billions? Extinction is nigh.

You didn't listen.
*Fucked-up thumbs  
Anakim : 9/30/2014 9:28 pm : link
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RE: RE: so dont let anyone  
spike : 9/30/2014 9:33 pm : link
In comment 11892540 Anakim said:
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In comment 11892529 spike said:


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spit or sweat on you.

Obviously dont have sex with people potentially infected with Ebola.



Alright, guys:

Would you rather fuck an ebola-infected Kate Upton or a normal thumbs Megan Fox?


Yeah, with Megan's thumb.
Can we just give Texas back to Mexico?  
Upstate_Giants_fan : 9/30/2014 9:53 pm : link
It's a win-win:
No Ebola in the US
Roger gets his international expansion
Romo can go to Cabo whenever he wants.
To tell you the truth,  
Bill L : 9/30/2014 10:01 pm : link
If Ebola ever to the US in frequency, the mod likely place for an outbreak is New York. Not sure the Brits or even Dutch would want to re absorb us though.
NYC has a huge African population  
spike : 9/30/2014 10:08 pm : link
good luck to all.
Ebola? Bah!  
JohnF : 9/30/2014 10:19 pm : link
Here is the REAL Virus Threat!!!

The biggest concern would be a mutation that allows airborne  
Scyber : 9/30/2014 10:20 pm : link
transmission. Ebola has the ability to be absorbed through the mucus membranes, so it would just need the ability to survive outside the body. There has already been an airborne strain of Ebola, it just wasn't harmful to humans (only monkeys).

The chance of this type of mutation is small, but the amount of people infected in this outbreak far exceeds any previous outbreak.
Oh no.  
kickerpa16 : 9/30/2014 10:21 pm : link
FEK doesn't like my tone.

The horror.
One thing's for sure...  
Britt in VA : 9/30/2014 10:35 pm : link
If Amanda Bynes gets Ebola, he'll be the first to report it.
How do we know this isn't some kinda Israeli computer virus?  
shepherdsam : 9/30/2014 10:47 pm : link
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RE: I think you mixed up which one is good and which one is bad  
bob in tx : 9/30/2014 10:50 pm : link
In comment 11892235 Wuphat said:
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I'd rather have Mexicans over the Texans that I've met.

People in Austin can get a waiver.


So says a shift manager, whatever the fuck that is.
RE: Oh no.  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/30/2014 10:58 pm : link
In comment 11892624 kickerpa16 said:
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FEK doesn't like my tone.

The horror.


Hehe yeah, I figured something in this vein was coming. Hope this thread has made you feel better about yourself and your ironclad grip on the world , kicker. Your self-esteem must be marvelous.
I'm no isolationist  
Motley Blue : 9/30/2014 11:04 pm : link
but stay the fuck hone already.
To those saying it's as hard to catch as Aids  
bradshaw44 : 9/30/2014 11:11 pm : link
You are wrong. Look how it's spreading at a decent enough pace.

To those that say it's a crazy, easy to spread epidemic, look how it's not spreading like the flu.

What we are dealing with is something in between. Yet it's almost a certain death sentence. So people have the right to worry. Yet , "full on panic" is unwarranted.
Coming from the dude who's intellectual contributions are  
kickerpa16 : 9/30/2014 11:12 pm : link
on par with TMZ, yeah, I'm fine with my attitude.
It's almost a certain death sentence?  
Anakim : 9/30/2014 11:17 pm : link
What about the doctors and medical workers that were in Africa and were transported to the US for treatment? They seem to be doing alright
RE: It's almost a certain death sentence?  
bradshaw44 : 9/30/2014 11:22 pm : link
In comment 11892707 Anakim said:
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What about the doctors and medical workers that were in Africa and were transported to the US for treatment? They seem to be doing alright


Anak, why don't you look up the percent of people that die from the disease. You're talking about 2 people that got the full support of the US goverent. You won't get that.
RE: RE: It's almost a certain death sentence?  
Anakim : 9/30/2014 11:33 pm : link
In comment 11892718 bradshaw44 said:
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In comment 11892707 Anakim said:


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What about the doctors and medical workers that were in Africa and were transported to the US for treatment? They seem to be doing alright



Anak, why don't you look up the percent of people that die from the disease. You're talking about 2 people that got the full support of the US goverent. You won't get that.


50%. Fair enough, but you have to think that that number will drop given our healthcare system compared to that of the West Africa countries.
Fekker...  
Chris in Philly : 9/30/2014 11:37 pm : link
A lot of the hysterical an ill-informed posts deserve scorn and ridicule.
RE: RE: RE: It's almost a certain death sentence?  
bradshaw44 : 9/30/2014 11:41 pm : link
In comment 11892725 Anakim said:
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In comment 11892718 bradshaw44 said:


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In comment 11892707 Anakim said:


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What about the doctors and medical workers that were in Africa and were transported to the US for treatment? They seem to be doing alright



Anak, why don't you look up the percent of people that die from the disease. You're talking about 2 people that got the full support of the US goverent. You won't get that.



50%. Fair enough, but you have to think that that number will drop given our healthcare system compared to that of the West Africa countries.


True. We will have a much better rate of survival than most. Still, it's something id rather not come in contact with. And it's spreading at a pace that's got the CDC's attention. That's all I'm saying.
Should I stop buying 30 packs of beer?  
Davisian : 9/30/2014 11:43 pm : link
Or can we take them with us?

Not sure if people know....  
damdevs : 9/30/2014 11:55 pm : link
But there is a 19 to 21 day incubation period with Ebola. So when you have direct flights from Africa to the U.S. it was just a matter of time.

RE: Not sure if people know....  
Bill L : 10/1/2014 6:09 am : link
In comment 11892773 damdevs said:
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But there is a 19 to 21 day incubation period with Ebola. So when you have direct flights from Africa to the U.S. it was just a matter of time.


There are enough differences between here and Africa, many of them cultural and many economic, to believe that if someone did come here with it the spread would be restricted. This current case being an example. I don't think there's enough time to have a large amount of people infected. You go. From not contagious and mobile to contagious but incapacitated pretty quickly. We seek medical treatment quickly and are aware of travel history. We don't generally eat bush meat.

Otoh, the disease is severe. I don't think that 50 % number is correct. I think it's much higher, although the numbers would obviously be skewed because of the paucity of cases in developed worlds with our medical care. The two earlier Americans could be outliers because of quality of medical care, but otoh they also received an experimental drug that is not available in any great amount. Which caused them to recover?

RE: Should I stop buying 30 packs of beer?  
BigBlueShock : 10/1/2014 7:03 am : link
In comment 11892745 Davisian said:
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Or can we take them with us?

You finish one off in about an hour, don't ya? I'd say you're ok to continue buying. For now.
It spreads in Africa the same way Aids decimated that area  
buford : 10/1/2014 7:17 am : link
people don't practice simple sanitary rules. They don't have the infrastructure we have, or the hospital systems. And they have a lot of cultural superstitions which help to spread the virus. The only way it would spread like that here is if it went airborne.
It was only a matter of time  
ZogZerg : 10/1/2014 7:27 am : link
The question is, how did this person get it?

And, how many on the plane now have it? How would you like to have been on that plane or been the person sitting next to him/her?
RE: It was only a matter of time  
Bill L : 10/1/2014 8:03 am : link
In comment 11892958 ZogZerg said:
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The question is, how did this person get it?

And, how many on the plane now have it? How would you like to have been on that plane or been the person sitting next to him/her?


That's a pretty easy answer. The number of people on the plane who now have it is exactly zero (unless they got it independently). The answer to the second part is that I would not have liked to have been the person sitting next to him. However, I recognize that my response is a reflexive emotional one as opposed to a a reflective rational one.
What about the ppl that work on the plane  
bxgiants4 : 10/1/2014 8:13 am : link
Cleaners for example. Or the first responders who treated this person. Putting people at risk for no reason. Don't allow any travel to or from those countries. In a few weeks the airlines will do right.
RE: It spreads in Africa the same way Aids decimated that area  
RC02XX : 10/1/2014 8:57 am : link
In comment 11892956 buford said:
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people don't practice simple sanitary rules. They don't have the infrastructure we have, or the hospital systems. And they have a lot of cultural superstitions which help to spread the virus. The only way it would spread like that here is if it went airborne.


This
RE: What about the ppl that work on the plane  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/1/2014 9:02 am : link
In comment 11892994 bxgiants4 said:
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Cleaners for example. Or the first responders who treated this person. Putting people at risk for no reason. Don't allow any travel to or from those countries. In a few weeks the airlines will do right.


HUH?

Talk about nonsense.
Looking at the CDC and WHO web sites  
sb2003 : 10/1/2014 9:46 am : link
It states the incubation period for ebola is 2 - 21 days.

How can it be ruled out that this guy wasn't infected on the flight?
RE: Looking at the CDC and WHO web sites  
RC02XX : 10/1/2014 9:55 am : link
In comment 11893126 sb2003 said:
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It states the incubation period for ebola is 2 - 21 days.

How can it be ruled out that this guy wasn't infected on the flight?


That's an interesting question. So you're suggesting that someone else on the flight may have infected him? If so, then we have a bigger problem than initially thought.
RE: Looking at the CDC and WHO web sites  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/1/2014 9:59 am : link
In comment 11893126 sb2003 said:
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It states the incubation period for ebola is 2 - 21 days.

How can it be ruled out that this guy wasn't infected on the flight?


He was infected, not contagious, with the timing of the onset of symptoms. Also you cannot contact through airborne contact per all reports I've heard.
RE: Looking at the CDC and WHO web sites  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/1/2014 10:02 am : link
In comment 11893126 sb2003 said:
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It states the incubation period for ebola is 2 - 21 days.

How can it be ruled out that this guy wasn't infected on the flight?


Highly unlikely but it can't yet.

And while people shouldnt freak out the reality is any deadly infectious disease should be taken seriously. Due to the many safeguards in place outr health workers here in the US are much safer and highly unlikely to be at the risk level of those who have gone over to Africa to help.

The fact that I'm in hospitals and Dialysis centers all day for work and see blood often makes me a bit more Leary than most to just brush this off.

The reality is AIDS still has about 50,000 new cases per year and this virus will spread. Not nearly if ever to that level, but Like AIDS to a statistically small specific community.

Viruses and bacteria do mutate at times so let's not totally dismiss this. I'd also be lothe to totally trust the government on anything as a general rule.
RE: RE: Looking at the CDC and WHO web sites  
sb2003 : 10/1/2014 10:23 am : link
In comment 11893170 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 11893126 sb2003 said:


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It states the incubation period for ebola is 2 - 21 days.

How can it be ruled out that this guy wasn't infected on the flight?



Highly unlikely but it can't yet.

And while people shouldnt freak out the reality is any deadly infectious disease should be taken seriously. Due to the many safeguards in place outr health workers here in the US are much safer and highly unlikely to be at the risk level of those who have gone over to Africa to help.

The fact that I'm in hospitals and Dialysis centers all day for work and see blood often makes me a bit more Leary than most to just brush this off.

The reality is AIDS still has about 50,000 new cases per year and this virus will spread. Not nearly if ever to that level, but Like AIDS to a statistically small specific community.

Viruses and bacteria do mutate at times so let's not totally dismiss this. I'd also be lothe to totally trust the government on anything as a general rule.


The CDC director speaking to the media sounded very confident the flight wasn't an issue. I figure that might be because there is only one sick person at this point. Maybe they would expect more infections by now, or they just don't want to alarm people.

On a side note the TSA agents in charge of pat downs and checking people must be freaking out. The fun times of grabbing tits and balls might soon be over.
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