CDC: Ebola confirmed in Dallas patient
A patient in a Dallas hospital has been confirmed to have the Ebola virus, News 8 has learned.Read on wfaa.& #8203;com
From WFAA:
In a statement issued Tuesday night, Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas said the patient was admitted based on symptoms and "recent travel history."
The hospital, located at Greenville Avenue and Walnut Hill Lane in northeast Dallas, said it's complying with all recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and the Texas Department of Health to ensure the safety of other patients and medical staff.
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Sounds like something someone with Ebola would say...
Cam is fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.
Why. Every time I'm patted down, defibrillator, the wear gloves. That's basically all the protection they need to prevent contamination.
What kind of honeymoon is that?
-Osi
Sounds awful.
- Cam and Davisian
While you're gone, Fluffy will be busy sealing our borders. Goodbye forever, good doctor.
With you chance of dying of Ebola infection at 50/50 in the US, I can just assume that the rate is far higher in Africa. Definitely stay away from feces.
They have been identified and are being monitored for symptoms, he said.
I suspect we'll here of a number of people soon.
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So was this a recent decision? No sense of adventure
A nurse asked about the travel as part of a triage checklist and was told about it. “Regretfully, that information was not fully communicated throughout the full teams. As a result, the full import of that information wasn’t factored into the full decision making,” Texas hospital official Mark Lester said....
"His whole family was screaming. He got outside and he was throwing up all over the place," resident Mesud Osmanovic, 21, said on Wednesday, describing the chaotic scene before the man was admitted to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital on Sunday where he is in serious condition....
Just wonderful
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He'd walk into the hospital in the morning and find patients on the floor in pools of vomit, blood, and stool. They had fallen out of their beds during the night, and they were delirious. "What should happen is that a nursing staff or sanitation officer would come and decontaminate the area," he said. "But when you don't have that support, obviously it gets more dangerous." So the disease spreads.
Make that 80.
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If you read the article, they are being monitored. That doesn't mean they were exposed to anything.
Remember, it's not airborne transmittable.
This is the exact reason that it won't spread.
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None of the 80 has been quarantined, Neroes said. However, Dallas County health officials have ordered four close relatives of the patient, Thomas Eric Duncan, to stay home and not have any visitors until at least October 19.
Quite often, extraneous material like that becomes ignored, and for good reason in most of the cases.
I was pointing out that, to make it through the stream of patients and provide adequate care, a lot of information given by the patients is tossed aside (or given nothing more than a cursory thought). Most of the times, it's for good reasons (which, again, why I said "most").
Plus, it's a hospital administrator making that message. It's about as boilerplate as it gets.
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“Regretfully, that information was not fully communicated throughout the full teams. As a result, the full import of that information wasn’t factored into the full decision making,” Texas hospital official Mark Lester said....
Yeah, they should have caught it, but understand why that information was lost in the diagnoses/treatment chain.
Yes, widespread contagion won't happen here, because of the procedures in place.
That says nothing about individual cases. Any theory that espouse that something can be stopped with 0 cases is espoused by someone who's not operating with a full deck.
That's a very large jump to "he told people he was taking care of people with Ebola". That's routinely on the checklist of ER personnel to help provide others with info.
Wait...he was working with Ebola patients? I haven't really followed the specifics of this case, so I wasn't aware that he was working with Ebola patients in Africa.
That goes against the grain of what's been reported, historically and currently. People fear the diagnosis, people fear the community reaction to their diagnosis, people act as if they don't have it, and people generally try to avoid divulging that information.
For fuck's sake, only until recently has telling other people about HIV infections become more mainstream.
We don't know who was taking the history. Could have been some medical student doing their clinical. With the ignorance of geography today, Sierra Leone could have been a town in ND.
Someone said the EMS personnel. I haven't seen a report that this patient was transported by EMS.
I assumed it was a POV (privately owned vehicle) transport.
That goes against the grain of what's been reported, historically and currently. People fear the diagnosis, people fear the community reaction to their diagnosis, people act as if they don't have it, and people generally try to avoid divulging that information.
For fuck's sake, only until recently has telling other people about HIV infections become more mainstream.
Yeah...for the majority it has always been that people underplay their illness/sickness, especially if you were aware of the stigma associated with a certain disease.
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about the possibility of he having contracted it and likely didn't casually say he has returned from Africa like it was from a vacation, but would have told them he had been working with sick Ebola patients.
Wait...he was working with Ebola patients? I haven't really followed the specifics of this case, so I wasn't aware that he was working with Ebola patients in Africa.
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about the possibility of he having contracted it and likely didn't casually say he has returned from Africa like it was from a vacation, but would have told them he had been working with sick Ebola patients.
Wait...he was working with Ebola patients? I haven't really followed the specifics of this case, so I wasn't aware that he was working with Ebola patients in Africa.
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The New York Times said that Duncan, in his mid-40s, helped transport a pregnant woman suffering from Ebola to a hospital in Liberia, where she was turned away for lack of space. Duncan helped bring the woman back to her family's home and carried her into the house, where she later died, the newspaper reported.
Thanks, steve. I wouldn't necessarily go so far as to say he was "working" with them (that makes it sound like he was in the midst of numerous Ebola infected patients) as much as he was in direct contact with someone with the disease. Either case, he definitely put himself in grave risk during his visit.
That goes against the grain of what's been reported, historically and currently. People fear the diagnosis, people fear the community reaction to their diagnosis, people act as if they don't have it, and people generally try to avoid divulging that information.
For fuck's sake, only until recently has telling other people about HIV infections become more mainstream.
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In comment 11895121 steve in ky said:
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about the possibility of he having contracted it and likely didn't casually say he has returned from Africa like it was from a vacation, but would have told them he had been working with sick Ebola patients.
Wait...he was working with Ebola patients? I haven't really followed the specifics of this case, so I wasn't aware that he was working with Ebola patients in Africa.
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The New York Times said that Duncan, in his mid-40s, helped transport a pregnant woman suffering from Ebola to a hospital in Liberia, where she was turned away for lack of space. Duncan helped bring the woman back to her family's home and carried her into the house, where she later died, the newspaper reported.
Thanks, steve. I wouldn't necessarily go so far as to say he was "working" with them (that makes it sound like he was in the midst of numerous Ebola infected patients) as much as he was in direct contact with someone with the disease. Either case, he definitely put himself in grave risk during his visit.
Transporting, working, helping, however you choose to describe it I find it impossible to believe he would choose to skip that part of the story when telling the ER staff he was in Africa.
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now tell medical professionals about their diagnosis?
That goes against the grain of what's been reported, historically and currently. People fear the diagnosis, people fear the community reaction to their diagnosis, people act as if they don't have it, and people generally try to avoid divulging that information.
For fuck's sake, only until recently has telling other people about HIV infections become more mainstream.
In what world would someone having just returned from helping dying Ebola patients in Africa who gets sick enough to go to the hospital not mention that fact along with having been there?
The world that we live in?
What's the staple of the medical profession? People are hesitant to go to the doctors and divulge very personal information that could be a death sentence. People wait too long and give far too little.
Happens with: HIV, STD's, Ebola, etc.
Most people are not forthcoming about their medical history. He's coming from an area where people are killing others if they say "Ebola". And the fact that the newspaper article wouldn't mention this explicitly, when they have the "gotcha" moment of this century?
Yeah. He's likely not in the very small minority of being the few who report everything.
And this goes back to what kicker stated in his 10:37 post. Also, did the guy know that the pregnant woman was suffering from Ebola and died from it? I think a lot of speculation is being made on what his rationale was, etc.
Who said apologize? It was an ER goof. An incomplete history is not an unusual occurrence for a number of reasons.
We, the general public, will never see a complete crib sheet because of HIPAA.
Hell, it took the RYAN WHITE law before medical facilities were permitted to notify first responders that they had been in contact with an infectious disease patient.