NFT: 10/01/2014 Fantasy Thread

said he benched himself in fantasy for Vernon Davis and lost by 15 points...

anyone a little bothered a player is saying he plays fantasy football?

In comment 11893837 nygiants16 said:

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said he benched himself in fantasy for Vernon Davis and lost by 15 points... anyone a little bothered a player is saying he plays fantasy football?

Wow that's actually hysterical.

And no, since it's most likely a free league. Maybe a 20 dollar league?

I feel like I hear all the time about guys saying they draft themselves in fantasy.

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I'm guessing at least half the league is playing FF.

With just a ton of players talking about who they have, etc.

It's an interesting debate though. There can be a fine line between gambling and fantasy football. I hope it stays the way it is.
Fantasy Football isn't just for fans - ( New Window )

Should I start Eli vs ATL or Foles vs. STL?

Also, what does everyone think about trading Gronk for Donnell straight up?

TIA

In comment 11893896 YAJ2112 said:

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I'm guessing at least half the league is playing FF.

I hope all my players draft themselves! I really don't see any possible negative about it.

Screw MJD though and his fantasy football knowledge. Last year he told everyone to draft him #1 overall and promised that they wouldn't be disappointed. He disappointed big time, whether you took him in the 1st round or 5th round.

In comment 11893945 Grey Pilgrim said:

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Should I start Eli vs ATL or Foles vs. STL? Also, what does everyone think about trading Gronk for Donnell straight up? TIA

My opinions.....Foles(although I'd probably start Eli so it's extra motivation for me when he does well). I just think Philly at home is too good to pass up unless it's a terrible matchup and the Rams defense blows. I expect that to be magnified in Philly after a bad loss.

My theory on Gronk is that they are holding him back in an attempt to protect him for the stretch run. He doesn't look hurt to me and he's still open even when he's covered, but they just aren't targeting him. He's averaging 5 targets a game. I think he will continue to progress and eventually be a force again(assuming health which isn't always a safe assumption with him).

I do think Donnell is for real though. There is nobody else on the team that can possibly take time from him at this point and you can't fake athleticism. He's going to continue to be a great fantasy TE, IMO. I'd bet that he will average 8-9 targets a game and catch 6-7 balls a game and continue to be a red zone threat.

Due to Gronk's injury history and gambling that he will get more snaps as the season goes on, I'm taking Donnell which is crazy to say.

I don't know if I'd be able to pass up on Gronk's upside though. It would depend on if I have any other TE's on my roster to offset the risks associated with Gronk.

I'm def leaning towards starting Eli. The ATL D gave up a ton of yards last week and it seems like the Giants O is finally rounding into form.

Also, I think if I'm going to trade Gronk for Donnell the time is now. Tough to pull the trigger on that one.

I just dropped Gates for Eli.

Niles Paul...Owens Daniels types are avail on the wire.

To update anyone that might want to share an opinion:

Guy in my league(PPR) is shopping Graham. I offered him:

Bernard, Golden Tate and Vernon Davis(I also have Olsen)
for
Graham, Hilton and Vereen

He declined and asked for Olsen instead of Vernon Davis. Personally, I don't think there's much of a gap between the two if any at all. My only hesitation is that I was going to then shop Olsen around. Either way, Olsen or Davis would be my backup TE. I can try to play hardball and say Davis or no deal, but it might not happen.

I think the difference between Davis and Olsen is negligible enough to still make the deal since it's going to be your backup either way. If you liked the deal enough to start (which, if you offered it, obviously you did), that shouldn't hold you up.

Thanks for answering mine.

hold up the deal.

So Im in a keeper league where we play 2 QBs so they are pretty valuable. I have Peyton and R. Wilson (eli on my bench). Was offered Dez for Wilson, which i know is a good deal, but in a 2 QB league Wilson has a ton of value. Im also worried about how much longer i can keep Peyton and liked having a young guy to keep. If you dont have at least 1 QB keeper you are starting off in a bad spot since so many are kept. I think that Eli can do enough to make up for the loss of WIlson.

My WRs are A. Brown (obviously fine) but then Edelman, Quick, Patterson. So im really looking for an upgrade. I have to start 2.

League is standard scoring, no PPR.

league. It's hard to really know whats right without knowing the intricacies of the league. That being said, if I had to give an opinion....I don't think you are missing anything dropping to Eli as your 2nd QB. I think he will continue to be a valuable QB2. I also think he has a few years left as a fantasy QB. Peyton has 2 years left, IMO. I understand the concern losing a good, young fantasy QB, but this isn't Luck. You will just have to make it a priority to find a young QB in the coming years.

or Randle or Crowell at flex?

moving forward. They look to get him involved and he seems to have turned a corner regarding miscommunications. He has 10 targets each of the past 2 games and I see that trend continuing. The guy is a legit talent and if he starts to "get it", he can be valuable.

Right after I pick him up of course.

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Marvin Jones tweaked his ankle on Wednesday and was listed as "DNP." Jones can't catch a break. After missing all of the offseason program with an ankle injury, Jones returned to training camp for all of one practice before breaking his foot. In his first official practice back from the broken foot on Wednesday, Jones hurts his ankle. He was initially expected to make his season debut this week against New England, but now Jones' status is up in the air.

He really can't catch a break. Injuries have been a concern for him for a while now, which is unfortunate since he's really good.

Would any of you release any of these guys for ODB? I just really want him on my team. It makes sense from an unbiased perspective as well since he's the only first round WR to be a FA.

Markus Wheaton
Jordan Reed
Josh Gordon
Isaiah Crowell
Lorenzo Taliaferro
Marvin Jones

I just can't release Josh Gordon. He's no lock to be lighting the world on fire when he gets back, but I'll take the risk. I'm hoping Isaiah Croweel or Lorenzo T. emerge since I'm incredibly weak at RB. Jordan Reed has done nothing but I need a backup TE. I feel like I can release Markus Wheaton and still be able to pick him up a couple of weeks from now if I want. I really like him, but he's not a big name.

He's a rookie who has had no camp and extremely limited practice. What do you guys really think he's going to do? With Randle, Cruz and Donnell, there will be limited opportunities and he won't be an every down player probably for a few weeks. I wouldn't waste a roster spot on ODBjr unless it's a dynasty league.

I picked him up and I'm not gonna start him this week but I feel pretty confident that barring a setback with his hamstring, he will be worth starting as a WR3 by the end of the month.

Also.. annoying news about Jones, I just saw that before. I was considering rolling with him over Kendall Wright. Wright has been garbage this year so far... mostly because his QB situation sucks.

When it comes to route running. This isn't a Jerry Reese on Randle type of situation where he claimed him NFL ready.

After being questioned about his Kelvin Benjamin pick (because of questionable route running), David Gettlemen said that the only WR in this Draft's route-running you cannot question is ODB.

ODB has a shot to eat up the short/intermediate passes in the middle of the field.

If I wasn't a Giants fan, I probably wouldn't do it. But I love me some ODB.

that he's a FA in most leagues in a month. If he's your WR3, you have serious issues. It's not like he's a guy we are going to force the ball to. We have 3 legitimate other weapons. The dude missed all of camp and just about every practice for the first 2 months of his NFL career. He'd be lucky to average 4 catches a game in a month from now.

I think he's going to be more productive than people think.

If we were running last years offense I would expect close to zero but as much as I like Randle, he sucks after the catch. Beckham has a lot more potential there and could hit on some big plays if we get the ball in his hands quickly.

It makes sense. He was the 3rd WR taken in the 2014 Draft, but is the only FA out of all the 1st round WRs.

ODB is a great weapon for this type of offense. No huddle, dink and dunk type. I can see Eli throwing some YAC throws to ODB in the near future.

He asked another guy in my league and the dude talked him out of it so he backed out. I think it's sketchy consulting with someone else in the same league. I would never do that.

That's just you being salty you got fucked out of a deal.

It's stupid to consult, but not sketchy.

I guess I just find it annoying when someone offers me a trade offline(not on yahoo) and then rescinds. In my head the trade was done so you start to look at your team with those players. That being said, I can't get mad at him about that, its not official until it's offered and accepted.

I do find it sketchy that the dude whos my direct competition talked him out of the trade. He should not have a say in a trade conversation between two other teams, he's got ulterior motives. All he kept saying was how it made my team so much better.

And who should I drop?

I sort of have the Chargers penciled in, but I'm afraid Rex will have the Jets fired up and ready to play staring at 1-4. Thoughts?

Also, if I were to drop a player for a second D who would that be?

Chargers vs. Jets

Eagles vs. Stl

Giants vs. Atl

My Team:

Foles
Eli

Lynch
R Jennings
Hyde
Bradshaw
Crowell

Dez
Maclin
Wallace
Decker

Gronk

Vinatieri

Chargers

TIA

To consult with anyone in the league. No one cares if your team gets worse. The third party is playing mind games. It's not as if he's colluding.

The sketchy thing is how someone so dumb can be in the league.

and is expected to miss at least 4 more games

(Lamar Miller owner)

every RB I own has zero job security and this news is much needed.

I hope they just IR Moreno.

A non essential trade in a 10 team league. A 10 team league, should they even be accounted as valid. I mean, I could miss the draft in a 10 team league, fill the Yahoo auto draft spots with FA pickups and make the playoffs if I was on vacation for the first 3 weeks.

Anybody playing in 14, 16 team leagues with IDPs have something more challenging to talk about?

Just sayin, ya know, it's 4 weeks in, let's upgrade the participants...

Proof?

Can we get rid of this idiot now?

I too am a miller owner which would be great, but I'm not seeing it.

Vereen v. CIN or McKinnon v. GB?

Too much uncertainty with McKinnon right now.

In comment 11894588 BleedingBlue2 said:

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Vereen v. CIN or McKinnon v. GB?

I hate to say McKinnon, but you never know how many touches he'll get, but Vereen is even worse with the touches and Cinci D is tough.

I'd prob go McKinnon, but wouldn't consider it a strong start.

and he is healthy. That guy will end up getting the most touches.

Has been good until last week. Gonna be iffy weather, hostile environment for Bridewater ( if he plays) this ain't Atlanta he's seeing. McKinnon is a reach but I believe he's a better play than Asiata. If there ever was a sell high guy, Asiata is the man.

Vereen, who knows, nobody knows, it's Belichick with a screwed up offense. Cincy's D is arguably the best (Seattle at home but overall, Cincy looks good) Burfict back this week? Gonna be a tough day for Tom Terrific again. Only guy I'd trust is Gronk this week for NE against Cincy.

Draft position dictates Vereen, logic dictates McKinnon. Flip a coin or maybe pick up Antone Smith for garbage time against the Jints?

McKinnon is just better.

Thankfully I got him in one of my leagues and I am starting him tomorrow night.. kind of out of necessity but I like the matchup. I'm still kicking myself for dropping him in my main league last week. I seriously do not know what I was thinking. Oy..

Is he's included in the passing game. Why more than Cordarelle is a mystery. I like Norv Turner as an OC though, he's gotta be finding another god after AP. Best of luck if Ponder's starting though...

drop Rueben Randle for Eddie Royal to start at flex or stick with Randle

Because of his targets and he paid off, Randle will probably see less targets when OBJ gets acclimated. This week, however, you have to start every Giant available against Atlanta. I know, I know, looks too easy but you gotta play the match ups on anybody drafted lower than the fifth rd, right?

Royal long term, Randle this week would be my guess. I don't own Randle though...

In comment 11894675 Rocky Thompson said:

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Because of his targets and he paid off, Randle will probably see less targets when OBJ gets acclimated. This week, however, you have to start every Giant available against Atlanta. I know, I know, looks too easy but you gotta play the match ups on anybody drafted lower than the fifth rd, right? Royal long term, Randle this week would be my guess. I don't own Randle though...

Atlanta is vulnerable on the ground more than the air. And it looks like Beckham debuts this week..

Royal is playing the Jets ranked last against the pass. Chargers have no run game so they will be forced to throw. Malcom Floyd is questionable leaving Keenan Allen Gates and Royal. If Jets focus on Allen as they should Royal should have a field day. Plus they use Royal on short passes in lieu of the run.

Both guys get a lot of targets though.

I see Royal more as a flash in the pan and like Randle more long term myself though. Royal is on a hot streak and the Jets it should continue..