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RicFlair : 10/1/2014 8:59 am
I've officially had enough of Tom Brady as my starter.

I gave him plenty of chances but I'm done.

I put out some feelers for trades, I have both Kelce and Cameron as tight ends so I'm hoping to package someone like Cameron and Wright for someones backup qb. (russell wilson, kaepernick)

I also signed drew stanton because I think he will put up good numbers this week.


I could also sign either Bridgewater or Bortles, or even Dalton.

anyone has to be better than brady at this point.


advice? think i should just hedge my bets on one of those rookies?
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Dalton is available?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/1/2014 9:04 am : link
What league are you in? I have Brady and am looking at Broyles, Glennon and Hoyer in a 14-team league.
yeah  
RicFlair : 10/1/2014 9:06 am : link
dalton is available, i have a 12 team league.
i think my stanton hunch  
RicFlair : 10/1/2014 9:06 am : link
is a bit of a reach and my try dalton.


im lost at qb man haha.
Packaging Brady makes sense  
sealowe : 10/1/2014 9:27 am : link
Would imagine one TE with Brady could net a decent QB in return. Would also agree with picking up Dalton.

Would you trade Colston for Witten (PPR). My other WRs are Allen, Hilton, R White. Lost N Paul and would have to scour the waivers for TE.
10 team, PPR league, which starting team  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:30 am : link
would you want?

Brees
Calvin
Maclin
Cruz
Jennings
Vereen
Graham
TY Hilton

Or
Brees
Calvin
Maclin
Cruz
Bernard
Jennings
Olsen
Golden Tate
RE: Packaging Brady makes sense  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/1/2014 9:30 am : link
In comment 11893071 sealowe said:
Quote:
Would imagine one TE with Brady could net a decent QB in return. Would also agree with picking up Dalton.

Would you trade Colston for Witten (PPR). My other WRs are Allen, Hilton, R White. Lost N Paul and would have to scour the waivers for TE.


I would make that trade. Witten's a safe TE that gets a good chunk of targets per game.
Palmer's not ruled out yet, although  
Rocky Thompson : 10/1/2014 9:30 am : link

He hasn't shown good progress after he said he definitely play this week, they're supposed to make a decision this afternoon.

Bortles against Pitt ain't a bad play. Big Ben will likely go off on Jax and Bortles could throw 50 times.

Dalton might be better long term but I wouldn't cut Brady yet...
the second  
pjcas18 : 10/1/2014 9:31 am : link
one
Have Andrew luck and Russell wilson  
kelsto811 : 10/1/2014 9:32 am : link
Just traded Wilson for Emmanuel sanders....thoughts? Also I picked up tanehill but there are rb's available Reaves and McKinnon....should I wait on a QB and get one of these guys?

My rb's are

Peterson (just dropped)
Bell
Asiata
Blount
Moreno (hurt)
Ingram (hurt)
Vereen, Graham Hilton  
Rocky Thompson : 10/1/2014 9:34 am : link

Searching for TE

Clay Harbor available?
Trade we are discussing:  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:36 am : link
Bernard, Tate, Vernon Davis
For
Graham, Hilton, vereen

The way I see it, I invested a 2nd on brees, I still think he will pick it up and be worthy. I believe Graham will be the beneficiary. I'm also a big Ty Hilton fan and I'd be buying low in him. I obviously weeken my rbs a lot, but improve TE total pts and Flex total points. Plus, there will be other rbs available throughout the season. Thoughts.
that was to Kmed  
pjcas18 : 10/1/2014 9:36 am : link
it's basically

Bernard
Olsen
Tate

vs
Vereen
Graham
Hilton

I like team 1 for two of the three, and the drop-off on the third doesn't seem like a ton.

Right now and he's already has his bye Gio has 25 points more than vereen

Right now, neither with a bye: Tate has 4 more points than Hilton

And Graham has 26 points more than Olsen.

In the end I go with Gio and Tate to improve, Vereen is not what I thought he was (through 4 games) and Hilton is buried in a bevy of options.



Pick up Dalton  
Big Rick in FL : 10/1/2014 9:38 am : link
And try and trade Brady + TE for an upgrade at RB or WR. Dalton was the 2nd ranked fantasy QB last year and was the 3rd ranked this year through 3 weeks. Only Matt Ryan was ahead of him.
I'm not searching for a TE,  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:39 am : link
I have serciceable starters in Olsen and davis, but the graham owner is shopping him and is love a big upgrade. Remember, it's total pts, not rbs vs rbs and TEs vs tes. Having brees, calvin, maclin, graham as my top tier players is legit.
trying to improve my team  
FJ : 10/1/2014 9:39 am : link
DeAndre Hopkins is available. I would need to drop one of my WRs, either Colston or Decker.

0.5 pts per 10 yards, 3 pt bonus at 100, 6 pts for TD, 0.5 pt per reception.

Colston had a game in which he wasn't even targeted, then had 10 targets last week (only caught 5, but one was a TD). Decker has the crappy QB, but he's their top WR (when his hammy isn't sore). Hopkins is putting up great numbers so far), and doesn't normally face the top CB.

Which would you drop?
...  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:41 am : link
Graham=Bernard
Hilton>Tate(slightly)
Vereen>vernon(or Olsen who goes to my bench)
I can't imagine brady has any trade  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:42 am : link
value right now.
I fucked up my RB situation so bad...  
Andy in Halifax : 10/1/2014 9:43 am : link
My league scores passing TD's as 6 points so QB's are critical. I also intentionally left RB to later and focused on QB, TE and WR. But I still botched my draft fiercely for RB's...

Peyton Manning
Russell Wilson

Michael Floyd
Jeremy Maclin
TY Hilton
Mike Evans

Jimmie Graham
Ladarius Green

Reggie Bush
Lamar Miller
Bishop Sankey
Darren McFadden (whom I dropped for Bobby Rainey...)

Just missed adding McKinnon on Waivers and in a 12 team league, its really fucking thin out there.

Anywho, just wanted to rant.

To the OP,  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:44 am : link
Dalton is clearly the play here, IMO. He's better than anyone on your team. He had his bye. He's as good as any qb you are trading for, without giving anyone up.
Being weak at rb(if you are strong elsewhere)  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:46 am : link
isn't so bad. It's the only position where a new guy pops up every few weeks who produces. So many injuries and backups who are called upon throughout the season. You just gotta be the guy to snag em.
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arcarsenal : 10/1/2014 9:46 am : link
In my main league where I need WR help, I just got offered Colston/Sproles for Forte. Obviously that is not a fair deal and I'm not going to do it but he also has Lacy and Morris.. would it be worth trying to buy low on Lacy and get Colston along with him? I still don't think that's worth Forte who is way more of a sure thing but I figured I'd put it out there and get some opinions.

This is the same league I am potentially looking to deal Brees.. I offered the last place guy Brees for AJ straight up. He also has Demaryius and Newton is his QB so he's not getting a whole lot there right now.
keep forte  
Fish : 10/1/2014 9:48 am : link
Dork
I still want no part of lacy.  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:49 am : link
I believe their issues in the rb are for real. I wouldn't touch lacy unless he was handed to me.
I have brees in one league and trying to  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:50 am : link
trade for him in another. I see that passing game improving a lot.
Kmed  
dep026 : 10/1/2014 9:53 am : link
take the team with Bernard.

I have to play two of the three following guys:

Patterson at GB
Royal vs. the Jets
Foster against Dallas

Patterson has been a bust, Royal is getting a lot of balls thrown his way but will he keep it up, Foster got 1 carry in the 2nd half last week and it looks like they are limiting him.
Demaryius Thomas is on the block in my league  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/1/2014 9:54 am : link
I already have Dez, Edelman, Hopkins and Hawkins in PPR, but I'm wary that Edelman might now hold up all year. Good time to buy low on Thomas? The team selling has No RBs, and while I'm not loaded at RB either (Lynch, R. Jennings, Gore, S. Jackson, B Oliver), I might be able to get Thomas for Gore and then trade Edelman for a backup back.

Thoughts?
Anyone  
SoZKillA : 10/1/2014 9:55 am : link
Else trying to trade Vincent Jackson? What is he worth now?
Kmed stick with your team  
nygiants16 : 10/1/2014 9:55 am : link
with Bernard...
Oh hell yeah on Thomas.  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:56 am : link
I think it's a given that he's going to blow up soon.
Any stat corrections this week?  
PlaxidentalShooting : 10/1/2014 9:56 am : link
I lost by .3 with Charles going and he was pulled.
Dep, and 16, convince me why.  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:57 am : link
I think it's an upgrade it pts to make the trade.
Only stat corrections was taking a catch  
kmed : 10/1/2014 9:58 am : link
from maclin and giving a catch to brad smith.
Dalton is available in my league as well  
UConn4523 : 10/1/2014 9:58 am : link
the question is, do I drop Brady for him or Cousins?
Damn  
PlaxidentalShooting : 10/1/2014 10:00 am : link
Thanks
.  
arcarsenal : 10/1/2014 10:01 am : link
Yeah, I was with you on Lacy and didn't want to draft him and this was why. I don't think he will be this bad all year but I should probably keep Forte since he's my only real money in the bank RB.

Also, in my other league where I really need a RB I was offered Sproles and Talafarrio (sp?) for McKinnon and VJax. No, right? Another guy said he'd swap me Tate (Crowell is a FA so I can cuff him) for a WR.. I have VJax, Mike Floyed, Terrance Williams, Quick and Cooks so I can part with one of them since we only start 2 a week.
.  
arcarsenal : 10/1/2014 10:02 am : link
Floyd*

This is the league I drafted AP which is why I got fucked.
It's not like I've watched a ton of the Packers.  
kmed : 10/1/2014 10:04 am : link
I don't have anyone on that offense, so I've only watched them a little, but everytime I watch the games, he's running into 3 unblocked guys. I don't see that changing. That system isn't built for RB's, specifically guys like him. If he doesn't get goalline carries, he's pretty much useless and if he does get goalline carries, he's probably running into 6 guys.
fuck it  
UConn4523 : 10/1/2014 10:07 am : link
dropped Cousins. Still not dropping Brady after what he did 2nd half of last year. Maybe they even make a trade mid season for a WR.
Dalton is available in my 10 team league too.  
kmed : 10/1/2014 10:07 am : link
A guy earlier mentioned that Dalton was the #2 QB in his league after 3 weeks. In my league he's the 20th ranked QB based on average per week. Yes, he was great last year, but he hasn't gotten off to a good start fantasy wise. I do think he will get better though.
RE: Pats and their passing game....  
kmed : 10/1/2014 10:08 am : link
I almost feel like they are making a conscious effort not to overwork Gronk so much. He looks like he gets open plenty and he's moving well enough, but he's just not getting the looks. Anyone else think they are limiting his targets early so that he's still there later?
.  
arcarsenal : 10/1/2014 10:08 am : link
Dalton's going to get some help.. Marvin Jones is coming back this week. 10 TD's last year only getting like 50% of the snaps. I scooped him off waivers. Hoping he will help my WR sitch. May even start him over Kendall Wright who has been useless.
Kmed  
nygiants16 : 10/1/2014 10:10 am : link
I just dont trust Vereen and Belichek in the way he uses his RBs...going into each game you do not know who is going to get the bulk of the touches...

With Olsen and Graham yes of course it is an upgrade to Graham but Olsen is effectively their number 2 receiver and Newton will start to get into a groove and use Olsen more...

I just like Tate more than Hilton and with Megatron hobbled a little bit Tate was the guy they went to...he is a good number 2 receiver...i just trust Tate week to week more than Hilton...

In the end i just dont think it is a trade you need to make...
Yeah  
UConn4523 : 10/1/2014 10:10 am : link
dropped Cousins for Dalton. Guy has to have breakout game at some point. Green should be healed up off the BYE and Jones coming back is also huge.

Cousins will be hit or miss all season but his next 2 are against Seattle and AZ, so i probably wouldn't have started him over Brady those weeks anyway.
Hey guys  
Miami_JintsFan : 10/1/2014 10:10 am : link
Which two are better plays this week? I'm thinking of starting Asiata over Ellington.

Asiata @ GB
Lacy vs Minn
Ellington @ Den
I go Ellington  
UConn4523 : 10/1/2014 10:14 am : link
definitely. Toss up between the other two.
RE: Kmed  
kmed : 10/1/2014 10:16 am : link
In comment 11893182 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
I just dont trust Vereen and Belichek in the way he uses his RBs...going into each game you do not know who is going to get the bulk of the touches...

With Olsen and Graham yes of course it is an upgrade to Graham but Olsen is effectively their number 2 receiver and Newton will start to get into a groove and use Olsen more...

I just like Tate more than Hilton and with Megatron hobbled a little bit Tate was the guy they went to...he is a good number 2 receiver...i just trust Tate week to week more than Hilton...

In the end i just dont think it is a trade you need to make...


Appreciate the feedback. You don't have to tell me about the Pats and their RB usage, I've been harping on that since the first fantasy threads. Again though, it's not RB's vs RB's and I think Vereen will be servicable as a starter and he would be compared to my TE which is still an upgrade.

I happen to think Olsen is very overrated. I think he's serviceable as a starter, but they don't pass a ton and they aren't a great passing offense. He will have a few duds week to week.

I like Hilton better than Tate personally. I think Tate is good, but I also have calvin which is annoying. I think Hilton is going to start finding the endzone and I also think Detroit has as many passing options as Indy. I think it's a lateral move in reality, but I like Hilton more moving forward.

Def not a trade I need to make, I'm not even actively shopping anyone because I like my team a lot, but this opportunity came to me and I'm always looking to improve. It's not like I'm messing with team chemistry.
in the end your going to go with your gut  
nygiants16 : 10/1/2014 10:19 am : link
you have to especially in fantasy it is all a crap shoot...
RE: Lacy...  
kmed : 10/1/2014 10:21 am : link
He's the 40th ranked RB, just percentage pts higher than Jeremy Hill.
16,  
kmed : 10/1/2014 10:23 am : link
I know, I'm just looking for someone to convince me that I shouldn't do it and give me a good reason why. I offered it to the dude, he's intrigued. He's been shopping Graham for a while now(has Gronk who he drafted in rd 3) and is desperate for a RB upgrade.
RE: 16,  
nygiants16 : 10/1/2014 10:48 am : link
In comment 11893204 kmed said:
Quote:
I know, I'm just looking for someone to convince me that I shouldn't do it and give me a good reason why. I offered it to the dude, he's intrigued. He's been shopping Graham for a while now(has Gronk who he drafted in rd 3) and is desperate for a RB upgrade.


I think there are reasons for both sides to be honest...it wouldnt be a bad trade if you did it...
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