Interesting numbers while watching Odell Beckham video..

I can't wait until they take advantage of that

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In comment 11894518 mattlawson said:

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I can't wait until they take advantage of that

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will give us a dimension that we've never enjoyed. He has that next gear that will break down a defense. He will also take a bunch of pressure off Cruz and even some off Randle. If this kid stays healthy, this will be fun.

He is similar to Percy Harvin at all. Beckham is a much better receiver IMO. He is better catching the deep ball, going over the middle. If we have one WR who skillset is similar to Percy it is Jerrel Jernigan.

Really don't know who I would compare him to, but certainly isn't Harvin. I think he is a much better receiver then Percy has ever been.

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In comment 11894562 Big Rick in FL said:

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He is similar to Percy Harvin at all. Beckham is a much better receiver IMO. He is better catching the deep ball, going over the middle. If we have one WR who skillset is similar to Percy it is Jerrel Jernigan. Really don't know who I would compare him to, but certainly isn't Harvin. I think he is a much better receiver then Percy has ever been.

This. ODBJrIII is a much more natural receiver than Harvin is with much better hands. He's not as strong and fast though.

Harvin is so dangerous with the ball in his hands and not a great receiver so you have to scheme to find ways to get him the ball (out of the backfield, reverses, specials).

Beckham can just line up at WR and make plays for you.

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In comment 11894562 Big Rick in FL said:

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He is similar to Percy Harvin at all. Beckham is a much better receiver IMO. He is better catching the deep ball, going over the middle. If we have one WR who skillset is similar to Percy it is Jerrel Jernigan. Really don't know who I would compare him to, but certainly isn't Harvin. I think he is a much better receiver then Percy has ever been.

He actually reminds me a bit of a bigger Randall Cobb when watching his LSU highlights

and change of direction, coupled with hands and speed, will be a very difficult cover. By next year, Cruz should benefit from the attention shifting away from him in the passing game.

Just thinking body type / speed combo

Percy Harvin literally has world class speed

ODB is fast as he'll, quicker than fast and runs routes like a seasoned vet

I think he is a young Steve Smith (former panther and now Steve smith, sr in Baltimore)

It's getting real up in here!

OBJ ran a 4:31 40 at the combine.

during his actual run he posted a 4.4 and a 4.31... so anyway you slice it.. he is fast... but the ability to change direction and the burst.. if he can play.. he could be good..

Reese usually gets it right on receivers... Steve Smith, Nicks, Cruz.. Manningham.. all good pickups.. that were productive... Randle looks like he is starting to come on...
Jernigan.. oh well cant win them all..

Lets hope he hits on OBJ...

Ran a 4.41 at the combine and Beckham Jr ran a 4.43. I'd say Beckham is close on field speed.

He reminds me more of Steve Smith then anybody else I can think off. He is a great deep threat and good with the ball in his hands. Not as good as Smith, but still good.

I'm the only one in the world whose eaten

22 hotdogs
10 dumplings
5 lbs of spaghetti
55 perogies
100 hot wings

odell: 1.57
harvin: 1.47


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Harvin had a 4.45 20 yard shuttle and 6.95 3 cone.

Beckham had a 3.94 20 yard shuttle and 6.69 3 cone.

Which matters much more then running in a straight line.

Harvin's times Lo 4.28 High 4.48 official time 4.39

Beckham Lo 4.34 High 4.54 official 4.38

According to nfldraftscout.com

In comment 11894617 Big Rick in FL said:

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Harvin had a 4.45 20 yard shuttle and 6.95 3 cone. Beckham had a 3.94 20 yard shuttle and 6.69 3 cone. Which matters much more then running in a straight line.

I dont think there is any question that ODB has better footwork, and his #s in the ss and cones prove that.

Harvin is legitimately a world class athlete. He was running the 100m in 10.xxs in highschool.

Are those pro day times? Those aren't correct according to NFL.com. Either way both guys are extremely fast. Doesn't matter though they aren't similar players at all. Beckham Jr is a more gifted receiver then Percy ever has been. Better hands, route runner, going over the middle, getting deep.

Def not saying Beckham Jr is faster. That would be a flat out lie. I just don't particularly care for the 40 at all. Rarely do you see a player run 40 yards off the line untouched or even 10-20 yards.

I love Percy and I have since I saw him first practice at UF. He is an awesome football player. Don't think he is as good as Beckham Jr. Which is saying a lot for OBJ13. Met him after the Outback bowl this year. He was cool as hell to the fans. Extremely humble. So I have a pretty big bias towards him.

enjoy.. fair video.. showed strength and weaknesses
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Dee Milliner - 4.37
Devin Hester - 4.41

Comparing Harvin's number to ODB's (that's what I'm going with) is pointless.

In comment 11894656 Blue Blood said:

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enjoy.. fair video.. showed strength and weaknesses OBJ - ( New Window )

too be fair to ObJ , his negatives in that scouting report are balls he got mugged by the defenders , holding down one of his arms . And the others were terrible throws by his QB. Kinda makes me think he's even better , cause if that's his worst , we are gonna be just fine !

the years and as much LSU tape on Beckham as I could find, Beckham is IMO not nearly so field fast as Harvin. He's not gonna blow by NFL defenders like they are stuck in mud like Harvin can.

WR. Super hands, good understanding of the position for a rookie. I don't expect much from him for a few real games yet, however. He's missed way too much practice reps.

This talk gets me excited but can we wait until he plays an NFL down before comparing him to harvin? I get he has measurable but so far the only thing he does like harvin is get hurt

In comment 11894739 Gmen108021 said:

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This talk gets me excited but can we wait until he plays an NFL down before comparing him to harvin? I get he has measurable but so far the only thing he does like harvin is get hurt

We have to wait until his play to compare his measurables to other players?

Good point - you want us to cancel the combine while we're at it? I mean, why bother?

similar game, size and athlete to Tory "Big Game" Holt.

is that there are "Giant Fans" here who hope that he fails so they could post
We should have drafted Martin or Donald.

Put this in the mix. Odell trained all off-season in a pair of shoes that were used by a bunch of athletes the year before. They banned them the morning of the combine. So he ran his sprints in a pair of shoes he had to borrow from one of the manufacturers.

When I watched him at the combine he pretty much jumped out of the pack with his body control, quickness, soft hands and effortless catching.

lets see what he does on the field...

and receiver's taken after him Cook and Benjamin have been impressive. I'm going to go out on a limb and OBJ will take his draft position and show it in Sunday why he was number 12 overall

language, it is my third

very excited to see his debut. I suspect he'll be an immediate upgrade over Parker in both the return game and in 3 WR sets.

And was a huge fan of Evans before the draft. He has not been impressive at all. He looks slow and can't separate from the DB. I wanted the Giants to trade up for him. As of right now I'm very glad we didn't. Obviously that could change.

none of the rookies outside of Benjamin have really been lighting it up. Watkins has flashed, but he's had inconsistent QB play. Benjamin has really been the one to stand out..as he should, they put all their eggs in that basket and he's been getting 8-10 targets a game. I honestly thought Cooks would be doing more in that New Orleans offense, he's been getting touches..but he's only averaging about 8 yards a catch.

Mike Evans may have been heavily overrated. Hard to say because the Bucs QB situation was appalling.

In comment 11894608 kepler20 said:

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I'm the only one in the world whose eaten 22 hotdogs 10 dumplings 5 lbs of spaghetti 55 perogies 100 hot wings

In comment 11894765 Headhunter said:

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is that there are "Giant Fans" here who hope that he fails so they could post We should have drafted Martin or Donald.

You're implying that these people are waiting until he fails to post such things.

In comment 11894603 Canton said:

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OBJ ran a 4:31 40 at the combine.

He ran a 4.43 according to NFL.com.

Just watch the games. Harvin's speed is sick, regardless of 40 time. Beckham's speed is good.

what Desean Jackson has done to us over the years with his speed

Without the attitude, hopefully

I agree Steve Smith Sr seems like the comparison. I hope he turns out as well as Smith Sr. (Without the anger management issues.)

Very excited to see him play. He may be the highest rated rookie receiver we have EVER had on the Giants. Lets all hope for the best here! OBJ, Cruz, RR, and Washington could develop into a very nice group of receivers in the next couple years with LD at TE.

is somehow being underrated on this thread.

tips better, and doesn't fart.

In comment 11894814 GMAN4LIFE said:

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lets see what he does on the field...

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In comment 11895548 mfsd said:

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what Desean Jackson has done to us over the years with his speed Without the attitude, hopefully

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his ball skills, I picture him to be more Randall Cobb like (but with even more upside) than Percy Harvin like in our offense.

I'm pretty excited to see what he can do on the field against Atlanta's poor defense.

Go watch highlights of Jennings from 2012..maybe it is more because of how they are utilized in comparison to underneath slot heavy guys like Cobb and Harvin who seem more to be hybrid type/RB build/underneath yac threats. I think Beckham can do some of that, but his bread and butter was the intermediate/deeper routes like Bruce and Holt used to run in st. louis.