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The "confidence" on here makes me nervous

Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 7:40 am
Yes, it doesn't matter to the Giants what WE think. All that matters is what THEIR mindsets will be come Sunday..

Yes, Atlanta is decimated in what appears to be very key areas..

Yes, they got roughed up by a Vikings squad that got roughed up yesterday.


However, imho, if the Vikes played the Falcons 10 times(even at Minny), the Falcons would win 9 of them..Last week was the exception.

If the Bucs played the Steelers at Pittsburgh 10 times, the Steelers win 9..Last week was the exception..

Matt Ryan with White and Jones and a still quite viable Steven Jackson(I watched their game last week on Rewind and he was running like he did 5 years ago imo, regardless of what the stats may have shown), this team could easily, easily rout us..

I believe, with the progress I expected the Giants to make, that we should/will win, perhaps big, but injuries notwithstanding, the Falcons are a dangerous team on offense..

We have all seen, week after week, season after season, how teams that are decimated can rise up for that ONE game and play as if they were healthy..

Should we lose, we all know how this place will react..The DEFINITIVE statements and opinions of "fact" will return..I needn't give examples of what form that will take..

As I said, I expect to win, I think this "work in progress" is progressing well and once fine-tuned can and will make lots of noise down the stretch. BUT, no matter what shape they're in, if we don't pressure Ryan throughout, we could be in for a very rough afternoon..

In sum, I'm more comfortable playing a Dallas or Philly team at this point, than I am this decimated Falcon team..Anyone share this angst?
Agree, any given Sunday  
Some Fan : 10/3/2014 7:45 am : link
Keep the irrational exuberance in check. But, of course, only until we're up on these guys by three scores this Sunday!
can't get too over confident or else  
micky : 10/3/2014 7:51 am : link
Atlanta's is a type of team that will turn the tables on even with injuries or not. Very very very tough game for the giants this week.
You would rather play a divisional opponent  
Giantology : 10/3/2014 7:53 am : link
than the beat up Atlanta Falcons? Sounds like you're pretty confident to me.
our O  
SBlue46 : 10/3/2014 7:57 am : link
Will be better...just hope the game plan doesn't
rely too much on OBJ...
Main thing every week is our D has to
show up..fewell is inconsistent
eh  
Jon from PA : 10/3/2014 7:57 am : link
teams sometime play down to their oppenents and lose games they should win. Hopefully Coughlin coaches them up enough so that doesn't happen this week.
I'm worried. I'm always worried.  
Klaatu : 10/3/2014 7:57 am : link
But I'm more worried about the Giants screwing up, shooting themselves in the foot, than I am about Atlanta flat-out dominating us.
RE: You would rather play a divisional opponent  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 8:01 am : link
In comment 11896377 Giantology said:
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than the beat up Atlanta Falcons? Sounds like you're pretty confident to me.


The comfort level is in pretty much knowing WHAT to expect from Philly or Dallas, win or lose..With the Falcons, my discomfort stems more in whether or not, with their potent weapons, they can brush off a makeshift/patchwork OL and STILL lay a pounding on us..Common sense says no, but that does not give me much solace..
"You've got to take them on day at a time." - Crash Davis  
Victor in CT : 10/3/2014 8:05 am : link
The Giants can't afford to overlook anyone. Play each game as if it is an elimination game.
In short, my confidence for how the season will  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 8:05 am : link
ultimately play out is quite high. This game? Not so much..It's been nagging at me somewhat
I probably would feel better if the Falcons  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 8:07 am : link
were at full strength as they pretty much were when we ripped them in the 2012 playoffs here..Go figure..
Amazing..  
Sean : 10/3/2014 8:09 am : link
just two weeks ago there were posters on here saying this team may start 0-10, and now we're concerned about playing down to the competition against ATL. Just funny how quickly the mindset changes.

With that said, the game won't be easy, and I'm sure the Falcons are very angry off of last weeks loss to the Vikings.
doc - what's wrong with you this year  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/3/2014 8:09 am : link
you are like a freakish hypochondriac ....

My advice - take a couple of kale enemas and enjoy the ride!

Stop worrying about the small stuff.

We have a bright young OC who is installing a very potent high-power offense in its fledgling stages and it's showing tremendous potential. We have a great coaching staff lead by Tom Coughlin - and an all time great QB in Eli Manning. There are a bunch of weapons on offense and defense.

Al the ingredients for a great ride BabY!

YeaH!! GO GiaNTS!!! All YeaR!!
Until proven otherwise  
JFIB : 10/3/2014 8:12 am : link
This is still the most inconsistent team in football. Dominant one week and choking the next. I am optimistic but always cautiously so.
If your worried about being "over-confident", rest assured...  
Jimmy Googs : 10/3/2014 8:12 am : link
the Giant's Special Teams will still be on the field for plenty of plays.
No. Not even close.  
Big Blue Blogger : 10/3/2014 8:12 am : link
Even the fans aren't taking this game for granted (which wouldn't matter anyway), and you can be sure the Giants aren't.

The Giants are fortunate to catch a flawed-but-dangerous Atlanta team at a time when their explosive offense is limited by a patchwork line of retreads and their defense is reeling from the loss of its best LB and DB. The game is far from an automatic "W", but the Falcons' injury situation is a huge advantage for the Giants.

Look at it this way: How would you feel about the Giants' chances on the road with Beatty, Walton, Pugh, Rolle and Beason out and Richburg highly doubtful? You would watch the game and wish for the best; but mostly, you would hope Eli survived - which is pretty much how Falcon fans are looking at this game and the prospects for Matt Ryan's health.

Look, Dwight Lowery could pull a Darren Sharper this Sunday. Devin Hester or Julio Jones could take over the game with a few big plays. The Falcons could go +4 on takeaways and blow the Giants out. That's obviously possible. It's just a lot less likely because of what happened in Minnesota on Sunday.
the Giants know that the Falcons are the number 1 offensive team  
Peter from CT : 10/3/2014 8:14 am : link
in the league. Hardly think they will lose their focus after watching the tape on that team.
It's good that the collective confidence level on  
Wuphat : 10/3/2014 8:15 am : link
semi-anonymous posters on a fan forum has absolutely no effect whatsoever on the level of effort and quality of play that the team puts out from week to week.

*of semi-anonymous....  
Wuphat : 10/3/2014 8:17 am : link
...
RE: doc - what's wrong with you this year  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 8:17 am : link
In comment 11896401 gidiefor said:
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you are like a freakish hypochondriac ....

My advice - take a couple of kale enemas and enjoy the ride!

Stop worrying about the small stuff.

We have a bright young OC who is installing a very potent high-power offense in its fledgling stages and it's showing tremendous potential. We have a great coaching staff lead by Tom Coughlin - and an all time great QB in Eli Manning. There are a bunch of weapons on offense and defense.

Al the ingredients for a great ride BabY!

YeaH!! GO GiaNTS!!! All YeaR!!


Per usual, simply trying to call it as I "feel" it..I said, I believe we'll win, just not feeling all that sure this week unlike the last few games.
If you watched that game on rewind  
BlueHurricane : 10/3/2014 8:18 am : link
You should be extremely confident in our offense doing exactly what they did to Washington and maybe even worse. Atlanta's run D is pathetic. #55 may be the worst linebacker I have ever seen in my life. There were times when the Viking backs was 8 yards down field before being touched.

Yes their O is potent but you just don't plug and play three lineman. They are in trouble if we play our game and don't revert to making huge mistakes.

My two biggest concerns are us shooting ourselves in the foot and Hochuli's crew officiating the game. His crew is extremely flag happy.
RE: It's good that the collective confidence level on  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 8:18 am : link
In comment 11896409 Wuphat said:
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semi-anonymous posters on a fan forum has absolutely no effect whatsoever on the level of effort and quality of play that the team puts out from week to week.


which was my first emphatic statement
Agree  
ZogZerg : 10/3/2014 8:21 am : link
I remember the confidence last year before the Dallas game.
You should have stopped there  
Wuphat : 10/3/2014 8:21 am : link
...
We have to stop the run with 7 in the box  
WillieYoung : 10/3/2014 8:22 am : link
which means our DTs/MLB have to dominate their interior line. Then our safeties have to prevent the big play in the passing game. If we do both of those things maybe we keep them in the teens or low twenties.
RE: You should have stopped there  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 8:23 am : link
In comment 11896417 Wuphat said:
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So sharing a feeling on a message board is persona non grata..
You can share whatever silly thoughts and feelings you wish  
Wuphat : 10/3/2014 8:25 am : link
Clearly no one is stopping you.
RE: If you watched that game on rewind  
rptl530 : 10/3/2014 8:27 am : link
In comment 11896413 BlueHurricane said:
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My two biggest concerns are us shooting ourselves in the foot and Hochuli's crew officiating the game. His crew is extremely flag happy.


This is exactly how I feel about this game.
RE: You can share whatever silly thoughts and feelings you wish  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 8:30 am : link
In comment 11896425 Wuphat said:
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Clearly no one is stopping you.


Ok, I'm not gonna get into this with you again..It usually doesn't go well...Fine, my thoughts are silly, no merit and completely off the wall..Pretty much like my conviction that this OL will take time, that they will prove to be infinitely better than last year and that people such as yourself thought what Reese put together since drafting Pugh sucked big time and we were in trouble there..Yes, SILLY..We're done on this thread..
RE: If you watched that game on rewind  
Jimmy Googs : 10/3/2014 8:30 am : link
In comment 11896413 BlueHurricane said:
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Atlanta's run D is pathetic. #55 may be the worst linebacker I have ever seen in my life.


We have had a few LBs come thru here in the past 5 years that would garner plenty of votes...
I understand in a sense  
JOrthman : 10/3/2014 8:31 am : link
but I feel like there is no reason they should lose. Any given Sunday a team can beat any team, but there is no reason why they shouldn't be able to beat the Falcons. If they don't, then they aren't as good as we think they are. To me, it is as simple as that.
My biggest concern is Demps  
Rjanyg : 10/3/2014 8:33 am : link
He played well against the Skins but I need to see him play well this week to be a believer. This will be a test against a very good trio.
fan confidence has no outcome on the game  
UConn4523 : 10/3/2014 8:33 am : link
i'm in the anything can happy camp and will be watching and trying to enjoy a game of football.
i think if what we saw the last two games is for real that we could  
gtt350 : 10/3/2014 8:40 am : link
win a shootout if it comes to that
BB  
Rocky Thompson : 10/3/2014 8:43 am : link

We're gonna mash 'em, smash 'em and steal their socks! PETA will be protesting Giants games after we abuse those birds. Matt Ryan's going down so many times you could leak a sex tape!

Jennings and Cruz and we never lose!
We're going to win. Relax.  
arcarsenal : 10/3/2014 8:43 am : link
And if we don't, life goes on. There's no sense in worrying incessantly over something you can't control. I'd prefer to believe we're going to kick their asses (maybe we won't but I think we win anyway) because it'll make my next 2 days more enjoyable than worrying myself sick about the prospect of losing a game that would put us at 2-3 and do nothing to end or season or anything of the sort.

I don't understand why fan confidence would change anyone's opinion about a football game. 4,000 people here can guarantee a win and it won't effect what happens on the field one iota.
Our confidence doesn't matter  
nicky43 : 10/3/2014 8:48 am : link
But I hope the team is not over confident. Any given Sunday, the way the ball bounces, a few key bad calls or bad plays, a few key lucky breaks by the other team. One thing for sure about this sport is that the better team often does not win.

That said, I believe we are the better team, not that that means anything. LOL!
Beware of the injured team  
Buck Dharma : 10/3/2014 8:49 am : link
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Irrationally...  
KingBlue : 10/3/2014 8:50 am : link
I think the Giants blow this depleted Falcons team out. I don't believe they can protect Ryan and I don't think they can stop our offense. Call me crazy.
The Giants haven't been over .500 since December 30th, 2012.  
arcarsenal : 10/3/2014 8:50 am : link
I'm pretty sure overconfidence isn't going to be an issue here.
What happened to '56.  
SoDev : 10/3/2014 8:53 am : link
First the Redskins predictions, now this. He's turning into, Eric.

There is plenty of time to stress after shit goes wrong, might as well try to stay positive and enjoy the ride when things are going good.
As I said several times on this thread,  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 8:55 am : link
we should/will win..Having seen a TC team shit the bed against opponents we should dispense with, my confidence level isn't what it was for the last two games. Even the AZ game, I felt/thought we'd win...This looks too pat to me..
what a weenie  
area junc : 10/3/2014 8:57 am : link
if we're a good team, we'll win the game
RE: What happened to '56.  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 8:57 am : link
In comment 11896469 SoDev said:
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First the Redskins predictions, now this. He's turning into, Eric.

There is plenty of time to stress after shit goes wrong, might as well try to stay positive and enjoy the ride when things are going good.


That was a prediction on the "playa" thread that was made to "bring us luck." I made the same exact prediction for this game as well and will continue to do that until and when we lose..I'm a little 'stitious..
Even after 4 Super Bowls  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/3/2014 8:59 am : link
Giants fans are eager to embrace the worst case scenario and reluctant to expect anything positive.
Fiddy..  
arcarsenal : 10/3/2014 8:59 am : link
There's no sense in worrying about it, man. Just spend the next 2 days being happy that we actually HAVE some confidence in the Giants again. We had a rough 2013 and after 2 games this year, it looked like we were dangerously close to a repeat.

Be glad you have a meaningful football game to watch on Sunday and just enjoy it. We'll see what happens when we get there.

I'm excited. This is the most excited I've been about the Giants in almost 2 years.
Close game  
natefit : 10/3/2014 8:59 am : link
back and forth. We win on late field goal 24-21
RE: As I said several times on this thread,  
shabu : 10/3/2014 9:00 am : link
In comment 11896472 Big Blue '56 said:
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we should/will win..Having seen a TC team shit the bed against opponents we should dispense with, my confidence level isn't what it was for the last two games. Even the AZ game, I felt/thought we'd win...This looks too pat to me..


/agree

Its been this with the Giants under TC. You just don't know what you are going to get with them. Let's hope the vets can keep the guys focused and they can execute well overall.

A big home win would be very nice at this stage for this team.

The Giants  
Doomster : 10/3/2014 9:01 am : link
have always been a streaky team.....they can win a bunch in a row and lose a bunch in a row....

But when it comes to the Giants, they are their own worst enemy....how many times have they come out flat in big games? How many times have they lost games they should have won?

They have to win the turnover battle.....

How many times have we heard stuff like, the Detroit defensive backfield sucks, we should be able to pass on them? This week we are hearing the OL of the Falcons is decimated, they should be able to pressure Ryan, and stop their passing game.....

If somehow, Ryan has time, he has the weapons to beat our pass defense.....a good passing offense, can beat this defensive backfield, if it has the time to pass.....not one linebacker is capable of covering anyone.....I am still not sold on Demps as the deep safety.....

That all becomes a moot point, if Ryan spends most of the time on his back......

Can the offense continue it's steady improvement? Will OBj see the field and have an impact? Is Donnell for real? Can this running game keep putting up the numbers? Does Eli continue to grow with this new offense?

More often than not, games are won/lost based on matchups rather than W/L records....in the NFL, team A beats team B, Team B has beaten team C, does not mean that team A beats team C....that's why they play the games....

If things go according to Plan, Giants will be 3-2......something I didn't see before the season started...
RE: Even after 4 Super Bowls  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 9:01 am : link
In comment 11896479 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Giants fans are eager to embrace the worst case scenario and reluctant to expect anything positive.


Yes, following this team for 58 years will do that and you know how much I love this regime..:)
RE: The Giants  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 9:03 am : link
In comment 11896489 Doomster said:
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have always been a streaky team.....they can win a bunch in a row and lose a bunch in a row....

But when it comes to the Giants, they are their own worst enemy....how many times have they come out flat in big games? How many times have they lost games they should have won?

They have to win the turnover battle.....

How many times have we heard stuff like, the Detroit defensive backfield sucks, we should be able to pass on them? This week we are hearing the OL of the Falcons is decimated, they should be able to pressure Ryan, and stop their passing game.....

If somehow, Ryan has time, he has the weapons to beat our pass defense.....a good passing offense, can beat this defensive backfield, if it has the time to pass.....not one linebacker is capable of covering anyone.....I am still not sold on Demps as the deep safety.....

That all becomes a moot point, if Ryan spends most of the time on his back......

Can the offense continue it's steady improvement? Will OBj see the field and have an impact? Is Donnell for real? Can this running game keep putting up the numbers? Does Eli continue to grow with this new offense?

More often than not, games are won/lost based on matchups rather than W/L records....in the NFL, team A beats team B, Team B has beaten team C, does not mean that team A beats team C....that's why they play the games....

If things go according to Plan, Giants will be 3-2......something I didn't see before the season started...


Wow, am I agreeing with Doomy here? Quite reasoned imo..
could give a shit about what people here think  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/3/2014 9:04 am : link
as you said, it's what the team thinks that concerns me.

How can a team coming off a blowout not feel good about themselves? As a player coming to practice knowing what the team just did, how do they keep their edge, the mindset to push themselves? How do they keep the mindset to keep working hard? I know the players know this, but knowing it, and actually doing something about it are 2 different things.

If I had to guess, teams coming off a blowout win probably have a very low winning percentage....it should concern the team/players.

I hate to say this, but I only have a 30% expectation that the Giants will win this one. In the end, it may not be a bad thing, but I'd feel much better about a loss if it were some AFC team.
I'm not as concerned about the confidence on this message board  
kmed : 10/3/2014 9:04 am : link
as I am with the media. At least most teams in the past would disappoint when they finally got love in the media. They were a team that played better when nobody believed in them. We do have new leadership though, so I'm interested to see how they play with such confidence.
What's funny is when I express the opinion  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 9:07 am : link
that this OL will be solid, that as regards the TE situation they know what they're doing and that in no shape, manner or form is this a two-year rebuild, I'm a Kool-Aid drinker, a homer, a dreamer...

When I share a concern, I'm silly..Can't win on here..:)
i would just add that  
area junc : 10/3/2014 9:07 am : link
i like this team more than any since 2010.

2011 we caught lightning in a bottle but played shit football almost the entire season.

This team has a chance to play quality football through-out the season which I haven't personally felt since '10.
Actually, I'm thinking the exact opposite  
jcn56 : 10/3/2014 9:07 am : link
These guys haven't been able to find a rhythm in forever. Every time there was a bit of momentum, it was chalked up to the level of the opponent or broken up by a loss.

Now they have some legit attention, maybe they can use that boost in confidence to raise their level of play. Eli can go back to running a successful offense and put the stench of hitting the ground every 3rd play behind him.

At this point, being overconfident scares me less than them being unsure of themselves.
Steven Jackson  
Big Rick in FL : 10/3/2014 9:08 am : link
Is terrible. He hasn't had over 55 yards this season and he is getting 10-15 carries.
RE: Fiddy..  
Rick5 : 10/3/2014 9:09 am : link
In comment 11896480 arcarsenal said:
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There's no sense in worrying about it, man. Just spend the next 2 days being happy that we actually HAVE some confidence in the Giants again. We had a rough 2013 and after 2 games this year, it looked like we were dangerously close to a repeat.

Be glad you have a meaningful football game to watch on Sunday and just enjoy it. We'll see what happens when we get there.

I'm excited. This is the most excited I've been about the Giants in almost 2 years.


I feel exactly the same way. They have played two bad games and two good games. Is this a team on the rise or an inconsistent team? I have no idea, but I'm very glad that this season did not start out like last season.
RE: Steven Jackson  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 9:10 am : link
In comment 11896509 Big Rick in FL said:
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Is terrible. He hasn't had over 55 yards this season and he is getting 10-15 carries.


Rick, that's what I thought before I watched last week's game. Did you get a chance to watch it? He was running well, dighting like hell for every yard. In short, he looked "reborn" to me..An aberration? Gosh I hope so
dighting=fighting  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 9:11 am : link
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IMO - the most difficult shortcoming an NFL team can have  
Jimmy Googs : 10/3/2014 9:12 am : link
is unrest on the Offensive Line in a given week.

As we all know too well, when injuries force inexperienced, lesser players with absolutely zero-cohesion to play together, Offenses just can't consistently operate during the game.



is it the confidence that makes you nervous  
aquidneck : 10/3/2014 9:13 am : link
Or is the confidence just noise and you're nervous because the team has an important game this weekend.

We all know that the relative talent level nfl team to nfl team is minimal and that anyone can beat anyone.

Still, most here were chalking this up as a lost season only two weeks ago. It wasn't lost then and it hasn't been won now.

Doesnt matter. In the end we're only fans. We have no control. Only opinions.

Here's to an enjoyable weekend watching our non-2-year-rebuilding Giants kick ass!
RE: RE: What happened to '56.  
SoDev : 10/3/2014 9:17 am : link
In comment 11896476 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 11896469 SoDev said:


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First the Redskins predictions, now this. He's turning into, Eric.

There is plenty of time to stress after shit goes wrong, might as well try to stay positive and enjoy the ride when things are going good.



That was a prediction on the "playa" thread that was made to "bring us luck." I made the same exact prediction for this game as well and will continue to do that until and when we lose..I'm a little 'stitious..


I thought I saw it in another thread too, or something similar (thought I saw you picking against the Giants twice), but even if I did I guess you meant it the same way as the playa thread.

Anyway, I'm just bustin' balls. I think about these things, too, but choose to be positive. You are a good voice of reason for this site, so expect a lot from you.

It becomes a problem  
TMS : 10/3/2014 9:22 am : link
when the players start to believe the hype and it affects their play on the field where it really counts. TC is well aware of this and tries to keep it out, but you can only try. Especially with young players who do not know any better.
If I did post that somewhere else(not doubting I did)  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 9:25 am : link
it was meant in the same vein as the Playa thread. Or at least that was my intention..People were talking about how the Reddkins were easy pickins' ( which they proved to be) and I cautioned against that by citing the homefield Monday night crowd as a big factor. I was worried a lot about that..We needed to survive that adrenalin rush. We sure did..
Stop your worrying, Quinn's got this one...  
Jimmy Googs : 10/3/2014 9:30 am : link

Don't worry, Eli's got this  
deadkurtrulz : 10/3/2014 9:30 am : link
Eli has played progressively well in the last three games in the new system. Last week he was decisively in control all game long. He knew exactly where he was going with the ball and the ball came out quick. He elevated the OL and the WR'S. Everybody looked good except the opposing defense. No reason to expect Eli will have trouble vs Falcons defense. If the WR's hold onto the damn ball Giants will score enough points to win .

Relax and enjoy.
Does anyone's  
Randy in CT : 10/3/2014 9:31 am : link
"confidence" on here matter to the outcome?
If you could...  
rsjem1979 : 10/3/2014 9:32 am : link
...harness the collective anxiety of this site and this post in particular, you could power a space shuttle mission to Neptune.
RE: If you could...  
That Said : 10/3/2014 9:35 am : link
In comment 11896552 rsjem1979 said:
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...harness the collective anxiety of this site and this post in particular, you could power a space shuttle mission to Neptune.


More like Uranus.
good post deadkurtrulez  
area junc : 10/3/2014 9:36 am : link
what eli is absolutely brilliant at is pre-snap reads: getting the Defense to show what it's doing before the snap, understanding disguises and then getting into a good play.

he does this by hard count and having the same action on his fake snap that he does his real snap.

this is the area (along w/clutch QB play) where i think mcadoo may b realizing he's got something even better than aaron rodgers, which i doubt he would've ever imagined after coming here. also rodgers has been criticized for putting too much zip on his short and intermediate throws which eli throws a very catchable ball.
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BrettNYG10 : 10/3/2014 9:36 am : link
People freak when the Giants struggle...  
okiegiant : 10/3/2014 9:41 am : link
and people freak when the Giants do well.

I think the Giants cause an undue amount of anxiety for a lot of their fans!
I felt the same thing last week  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 10/3/2014 9:43 am : link
that people here were getting too confident and that the Skins would beat us or atleast push us to the brink in an ugly low-scoring affair. And then we went out and curbstomped them last Thursday.

The Giants are the better football team, the Giants are the healthier football team, the Giants are at Home.

We should be the favorites and we should feel confident about getting to 3-2. But Matt Ryan is a very good QB and he has a great receiving corps. I feel like our DL has been good, but I'm not as sold on them as some other posters here. Our DL absolutely needs to dictate the game against that injured OL. If they do that, then I don't see how we lose this game unless the offense regresses bigtime.
Fiddy you namby-pamby spineless son of a protozoan...  
BlueLou : 10/3/2014 9:46 am : link
If you can't revel a bit when your team is on a roll and it looks like your next opponent has all the aural luck shining about it like a shopping bag lady waiting for aliens to take her home to Jesus, you're just plain ole unAmericun.

Grow a pair and put 2 large on the Gmen.
As long as the Giants are not  
mrvax : 10/3/2014 9:46 am : link
overconfident, they should win this home game.
I don't think Coughlin will allow them to take this game lightly. We've all seen the improvements since game #1. Slowly getting better each week.

Can't turn the ball over multiple times and expect to win. No fumbles, no INTs and win by a large margin. Only the Giants themselves could keep this one close.

Will the Falcons score? You betcha. Still, the Giants should win by double digits.
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arcarsenal : 10/3/2014 9:50 am : link
I'll put it this way.

If the Giants go even just +1 in turnover differential, I can pretty much guarantee you they win. Even if the differential is 0, they probably win.

Get into the negatives and it's much more of a toss up.

Protect the fucking ball.

And hopefully the defense can keep forcing turnovers like they have the last 2 weeks.
Run the ball  
Rflairr : 10/3/2014 10:10 am : link
And don't get throw happy and they should be ok.
Just to motivate the Giants  
sackpack : 10/3/2014 10:21 am : link
31-0 Falcons win !
Sorry BB'56 but I feel the exact opposite way.  
T-Bone : 10/3/2014 10:24 am : link
I expect to murderlize the bums! As was mentioned earlier, we have the better team and just about everything points to a good, solid... perhaps easy... Giant win. I could maybe see some angst if the game was in Atlanta because there are some teams that are totally different at home than when on the road (like the Falcons and Saints for instance). But with the game being in NY... the Falcons being decimated on both sides of the ball... and the roll this team seems to be getting on... I expect this to be a pretty comfortable win. As has been said already, the only thing that can cause a Giants loss is if they turn the ball over multiple times and play sloppy football.

how 'bout some Falcon confidence?  
Mike in St. Louis : 10/3/2014 10:33 am : link
"[Roddy] White enters Sunday's game with 14 catches for 187 yards and two touchdowns. In five career games against the Giants, including one postseason contest, he has yet to score a touchdown.

Does that bother him?

"No," White said. "I will score this weekend."
Link - ( New Window )
Boneman, as I've said several times, I believe we'll win..  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 10:34 am : link
But even with their makeshift/pasted together line, they have the tools to put a licking on us offensively..

I have no doubt, had Nicks decided to play last year, we would have had a better record even with our shitty OL, because the tools of a good attack would have been there with Hakeem and a freed up Cruz..It sure would have helped Eli out some
I've leveled off  
djm : 10/3/2014 10:47 am : link
Earlier in week I was expecting a blowout. I now expect a close nail biter of a game.
I'm not that confident  
JoefromPa : 10/3/2014 10:48 am : link
I am concerned that Fewell will underestimate the Falcons uninjured line and go pretty much with a 4 man rush and a soft zone.

Hope he proves me wrong.
The Falcons are TERRIBLE  
Don in DC : 10/3/2014 10:59 am : link
on the road. Their O-Line has been "decimated" by injuries. Their defense is one of the worst in the league.

If we don't stomp them by two TDs -- at least -- I will be very surprised.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: The Falcons are TERRIBLE  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 11:12 am : link
In comment 11896742 Don in DC said:
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on the road. Their O-Line has been "decimated" by injuries. Their defense is one of the worst in the league.

If we don't stomp them by two TDs -- at least -- I will be very surprised. Link - ( New Window )


That's what worries me..:)
See, that's absurd.  
Don in DC : 10/3/2014 11:13 am : link
I swear, you old timers have PTSD from the pre-Parcells era. As in, "Hey, we should win this game! That means we're going to lose! The sky is falling!!"
Boy I wish General Patton was around  
Headhunter : 10/3/2014 11:16 am : link
to slap you little bitches in the face, put on your big boy pants and man up
BB56  
JerseyCityJoe : 10/3/2014 11:18 am : link
Spoken like a true Giant fan that has seen it all.
RE: eh  
ct.fatboy1080 : 10/3/2014 11:21 am : link
In comment 11896382 Jon from PA said:
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teams sometime play down to their oppenents and lose games they should win. Hopefully Coughlin coaches them up enough so that doesn't happen this week.




The Giants don't play down to anyone...that would be saying they are a superior team...I see two very similar teams that will take the field sunday...
One advantage that McAdoo's offense should have over Gilbride's...  
Big Blue Blogger : 10/3/2014 11:34 am : link
...is greater consistency from week to week. In principle, at least, this Giant team should be less prone to giving games away with freakish bounces and boneheaded plays, if only because Eli isn't holding the ball as long, and his passes don't travel as far downfield, through masses of defenders.

It didn't work out against Detroit and Arizona. I'm inclined to chalk that up to growing pains, but who knows? On a given Sunday, anything can happen.

Again, there are no sure things. But the adversity Atlanta faces this week looks pretty daunting. If you imagine the Giants going on the road without their best LT, LG, OC, RT, LB and S, it's easy to understand why the Falcons look like easy prey.
Nope, my nerves are fine.  
ImaGiant86 : 10/3/2014 11:35 am : link
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The last time Atlanta came to MetLife...  
Big Blue Blogger : 10/3/2014 11:52 am : link
...Giant fans were confident, and the team gave us a scare with a rough start. Then they blew the Falcons completely off the field over the final 35 minutes. And that was a much more solid Atlanta team than the one that's coming to town this weekend, although admittedly this edition of the Dirty Birds has more big-play potential.

The Giants don't always play down to the level of their competition. They didn't do it that day, they haven't done it the last two weeks, and there's no particular reason to think they will do it on Sunday.
It's not like any phase of the game has been  
Headhunter : 10/3/2014 12:05 pm : link
mastered by the Giants, there is room for improvement all around. They are still a work in progress on the offensive side of the ball and defensively they have yet to come close to playing a solid 60 minute game. This is not a team on top that has to fight complacency, this is an ascending team trying to get better. No I don't believe they are going to backslide because if the competition, I'd feel exactly the same way if they were playing the Seahawks in Seattle on Sunday
I wasn't really nervous all week  
Logee1 : 10/3/2014 12:06 pm : link
especially as I learned more about how many injuries ATL is dealing with, but then I decided to pick the Giants for my Surviver Pool. Now I am nervous.
RE: One advantage that McAdoo's offense should have over Gilbride's...  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 12:16 pm : link
In comment 11896817 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...is greater consistency from week to week. In principle, at least, this Giant team should be less prone to giving games away with freakish bounces and boneheaded plays, if only because Eli isn't holding the ball as long, and his passes don't travel as far downfield, through masses of defenders.

It didn't work out against Detroit and Arizona. I'm inclined to chalk that up to growing pains, but who knows? On a given Sunday, anything can happen.

Again, there are no sure things. But the adversity Atlanta faces this week looks pretty daunting. If you imagine the Giants going on the road without their best LT, LG, OC, RT, LB and S, it's easy to understand why the Falcons look like easy prey.


And that's why I think we'll win..This type O SEEMS to be less inclined to YoYo albeit still a continuing work in progress..Even if they were completely healthy, the loss of Gonzo was HUGE for Ryan..That loss is what, in the end, I'm banking most on..I'm just not as confident about this particular game as many here seem to be..The positivity is always welcome, perhaps that's why I'm nervous..I'm not used to the positive vibes on here..
the Falcons will have exactly one starting OL on Sunday  
Greg from LI : 10/3/2014 12:22 pm : link
And their defense is probably the worst in football. It should NOT take a Herculean effort to beat this team.
RE: the Falcons will have exactly one starting OL on Sunday  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 10/3/2014 12:28 pm : link
In comment 11896929 Greg from LI said:
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And their defense is probably the worst in football. It should NOT take a Herculean effort to beat this team.


True, but this is the Giants we're talking about. I still think the Falcons score a decent amount of points because the Giants don't match up well with big WRs. However, Atlanta's defense is absolutely horrendous. They have only 3 sacks this year and they can't stop the run.

I think the game will be close (and uncomfortable) at times, but I think the Giants will be able to score whenever they need to.
RE: the Falcons will have exactly one starting OL on Sunday  
BrettNYG10 : 10/3/2014 12:28 pm : link
In comment 11896929 Greg from LI said:
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And their defense is probably the worst in football. It should NOT take a Herculean effort to beat this team.


Last Friday, I thought that this would be a really good measure of where we're at as a team - where even a close loss could be encouraging. Now, I'd be pretty disappointed in a loss. I'm increasingly optimistic about this team, but a loss would blow some air out of that balloon given Atlanta's injuries.
They have to keep Ryan upright long enough to get to those WRs  
Greg from LI : 10/3/2014 12:31 pm : link
That won't be easy, and they likely won't have much of a running game either.
It looks more and more like how you feel about the Giants  
vibe4giants : 10/3/2014 12:59 pm : link
depends on how everyone else feels.

When people are pessimistic, you're full of optimism and wait and sees.

When people are optimistic, you're nervous.

And then when people say their surprised the team did well, you say you knew it all along. (Even after you've predicted a loss. But were only joking. Even though you clearly weren't. But you'll probably say this thread was a joke, too. Depending on what happens, of course.)

Can you still prescribe yourself stuff? Some sort of stabilizing pill seems in order.
RE: It looks more and more like how you feel about the Giants  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 1:00 pm : link
In comment 11897012 vibe4giants said:
Quote:
depends on how everyone else feels.

When people are pessimistic, you're full of optimism and wait and sees.

When people are optimistic, you're nervous.

And then when people say their surprised the team did well, you say you knew it all along. (Even after you've predicted a loss. But were only joking. Even though you clearly weren't. But you'll probably say this thread was a joke, too. Depending on what happens, of course.)

Can you still prescribe yourself stuff? Some sort of stabilizing pill seems in order.


Idiot
Your opinion would make me nervous  
vibe4giants : 10/3/2014 1:04 pm : link
if I didn't know how flexible it was.
RE: The last time Atlanta came to MetLife...  
mrvax : 10/3/2014 1:04 pm : link
In comment 11896871 Big Blue Blogger said:
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The Giants don't always play down to the level of their competition. They didn't do it that day, they haven't done it the last two weeks, and there's no particular reason to think they will do it on Sunday.


With all the roster turnover, any perception about Giant teams in the past doesn't hold true anymore. Unless you blame tendencies on Coughlin.
RE: It looks more and more like how you feel about the Giants  
BrettNYG10 : 10/3/2014 1:06 pm : link
In comment 11897012 vibe4giants said:
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depends on how everyone else feels.

When people are pessimistic, you're full of optimism and wait and sees.

When people are optimistic, you're nervous.

And then when people say their surprised the team did well, you say you knew it all along. (Even after you've predicted a loss. But were only joking. Even though you clearly weren't. But you'll probably say this thread was a joke, too. Depending on what happens, of course.)

Can you still prescribe yourself stuff? Some sort of stabilizing pill seems in order.


So you're saying 56=radar?
RE: RE: It looks more and more like how you feel about the Giants  
arcarsenal : 10/3/2014 1:07 pm : link
In comment 11897033 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
In comment 11897012 vibe4giants said:


Quote:


depends on how everyone else feels.

When people are pessimistic, you're full of optimism and wait and sees.

When people are optimistic, you're nervous.

And then when people say their surprised the team did well, you say you knew it all along. (Even after you've predicted a loss. But were only joking. Even though you clearly weren't. But you'll probably say this thread was a joke, too. Depending on what happens, of course.)

Can you still prescribe yourself stuff? Some sort of stabilizing pill seems in order.



So you're saying 56=radar?


Link?
RE: It looks more and more like how you feel about the Giants  
Danny Kanell : 10/3/2014 1:10 pm : link
In comment 11897012 vibe4giants said:
Quote:
depends on how everyone else feels.

When people are pessimistic, you're full of optimism and wait and sees.

When people are optimistic, you're nervous.

And then when people say their surprised the team did well, you say you knew it all along. (Even after you've predicted a loss. But were only joking. Even though you clearly weren't. But you'll probably say this thread was a joke, too. Depending on what happens, of course.)

Can you still prescribe yourself stuff? Some sort of stabilizing pill seems in order.



RE: RE: RE: It looks more and more like how you feel about the Giants  
BrettNYG10 : 10/3/2014 1:10 pm : link
In comment 11897036 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
In comment 11897033 BrettNYG10 said:


Quote:


In comment 11897012 vibe4giants said:


Quote:


depends on how everyone else feels.

When people are pessimistic, you're full of optimism and wait and sees.

When people are optimistic, you're nervous.

And then when people say their surprised the team did well, you say you knew it all along. (Even after you've predicted a loss. But were only joking. Even though you clearly weren't. But you'll probably say this thread was a joke, too. Depending on what happens, of course.)

Can you still prescribe yourself stuff? Some sort of stabilizing pill seems in order.



So you're saying 56=radar?



Link?


I'm a well-respected source, I don't need a link.
vibe is killing it...  
one slayed : 10/3/2014 1:12 pm : link
.
.  
arcarsenal : 10/3/2014 1:13 pm : link
And damn, not to pile on but.. vibe kinda hit it out of the park there.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 10/3/2014 1:15 pm : link
*Waits patiently for thread deletion*
...  
Wuphat : 10/3/2014 1:28 pm : link
RE: Your opinion would make me nervous  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 1:30 pm : link
In comment 11897024 vibe4giants said:
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if I didn't know how flexible it was.


I share a feeling..Wins and losses are a guess, nothing more..Seeing who they brought in via the draft the last two years and FA this year for the OL, is not..When you know the track record of this football team and who is in charge, you know it's just a matter of time before the pieces begin to work(unless you are so decimated by key injuries)..I was correct when most thought this OL sucked and would suck..

Many here put more stock on tweets describing each movement a player made without pads or in pre-season games where all the staff wanted to do was establish who could play where, than exhibiting the necessary patience that a bunch of league games would allow for the starters to mesh and gel...They have and they will get better..I knew this and said so..No wavering, it was truly a work in progress..Not a modicum of doubt in my mind..

I also emphatically and with no "flexibility" stated this is in no way a team in a two year re-build..

I also stated without "flexibility" that the TE situation would work itself out(I certainly didn't know it would be Donnell) and that there was a reason why the Personnel people didn't panic during the draft or FA..Not a modicum of doubt there also..

I also stated without "flexibility" that Eli was far from done and would be here for as long as he wanted to play save for injury..Not a modicum of a doubt..

Giving opinions on games from week to week is fluid and certainly "flexible," I have some doubts each week about us and our opponents..That's total guesswork TO ME..The stuff written just above this I do not consider guesswork(though nothing is etched in stone obviously), when you put all your faith in the overall productivity of a regime that has, to date, brought us two amazing SB runs..The exact OPPOSITE was in play for me with the regime that worked here before this one..

Minimize all you want..I know what stances I've taken and how correct I've been on key issues..Predicting week to week has never been a strong suit of mine..Probably never will be



I find your lack of faith  
Matt M. : 10/3/2014 1:49 pm : link
disturbing.
RE: I find your lack of faith  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 1:56 pm : link
In comment 11897148 Matt M. said:
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disturbing.


What are you talking about? What lack of faith? Because I'm nervous about this Sunday? I STILL said I expect to win..It certainly can't be lack of faith in the overall team given how staunchly I defend them(as though they need it)..So no idea where you see lack of faith based on this ONE game..
.  
Danny Kanell : 10/3/2014 2:00 pm : link
This thread went well.
i guess next  
area junc : 10/3/2014 2:04 pm : link
he's gonna tell us the stock market fluctuates.
RE: .  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 2:04 pm : link
In comment 11897173 Danny Kanell said:
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This thread went well.


Nothing wrong with this thread..They're just opinions..The usual suspects weighed in and I responded..the disagreements with some have been ongoing and will never change. You get used to it after 13 1/2 years..All's good..:)
I have to say that I feel real confident in the Giants this week  
steve in ky : 10/3/2014 2:07 pm : link
.
Chill bro. We're not going 12-0, but we'll win our share if we  
Marty in Albany : 10/3/2014 2:07 pm : link
continue to play well.

It's the NFL, we could tromp them or they could tromp us, or we could win or lose on a fluke play. Anxiety is no good you. Nobody knows what will happen on Sunday, so wait for the game.
Marty  
steve in ky : 10/3/2014 2:13 pm : link
I can't how I feel and just responding to the topic of the thread. I have been a Giant fan for about 50 years I fully understand they could lose, but this particular week I feel real good about their chances against a Falcon team that has a lot of trouble winning on the road.

RE: RE: I find your lack of faith  
Matt M. : 10/3/2014 2:44 pm : link
In comment 11897163 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 11897148 Matt M. said:


Quote:


disturbing.



What are you talking about? What lack of faith? Because I'm nervous about this Sunday? I STILL said I expect to win..It certainly can't be lack of faith in the overall team given how staunchly I defend them(as though they need it)..So no idea where you see lack of faith based on this ONE game..


Big Blue - It is a line spoken by Darth Vader in Star Wars. It was the first thing that popped into my head when I saw the thread title.
Its not clear what confidence on BBI has to do with  
chris r : 10/3/2014 2:54 pm : link
the outcome of the Giants game, but whatevs.
RE: Its not clear what confidence on BBI has to do with  
AnotherGiantsFan : 10/3/2014 2:56 pm : link
In comment 11897294 chris r said:
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the outcome of the Giants game, but whatevs.


First words from the OP.

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Yes, it doesn't matter to the Giants what WE think. All that matters is what THEIR mindsets will be come Sunday..
from the title of the thread  
chris r : 10/3/2014 2:58 pm : link
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The "confidence" on here makes me nervous


So you just wanted to reiterate his disclaimer?  
AnotherGiantsFan : 10/3/2014 3:02 pm : link
The title has nothing to do with how it will impact the game, but impact opinions if we so lose a game fans are so confident in winning.

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Should we lose, we all know how this place will react..The DEFINITIVE statements and opinions of "fact" will return..I needn't give examples of what form that will take..
I could have done a better job of explaining what I intended with the  
Big Blue '56 : 10/3/2014 3:04 pm : link
title. I thought the initial post would have made that clear.. What I was trying to say, is that there has been so much negativity on here since last year ended, that when posts become extremely positive, I begin to worry, as in WTF am I missing? :)
my gut tells me  
go-big-blue : 10/3/2014 4:34 pm : link
that the Giants players/ coaches are focused on continued progress in their development. They are probably anxious to get on the field because their confidence is high. I don't think it matters who the opponent is. They seem to be playing with good focus.

I don't expect a derailment. What worries me most is some sloppy play early on, a bad bounce, etc...which can inject confidence into the opposition.

I think it will be a close game, perhaps a nail-biter. But if Atlanta really is as deficient as it seems on defense and the OL, they will need lots of help to overcome it.
RE: I could have done a better job of explaining what I intended with the  
arcarsenal : 10/3/2014 4:51 pm : link
In comment 11897323 Big Blue '56 said:
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title. I thought the initial post would have made that clear.. What I was trying to say, is that there has been so much negativity on here since last year ended, that when posts become extremely positive, I begin to worry, as in WTF am I missing? :)


Fiddy, you've been here long enough to know how bi-polar BBI can be. A couple of losses and you have threads that are laundry lists of who needs to be fired and how Jerry Reach is the worst GM in football. We win a few, and all of a sudden we're contenders again.

A surprisingly low amount of posters are able to find middle grounds.
Did the Giants practice today?  
Reale01 : 10/3/2014 4:56 pm : link
??
No practice today...  
Jimmy Googs : 10/3/2014 5:15 pm : link
the players convinced Coughlin they didn't need it after reading this thread...
...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 10/3/2014 7:34 pm : link
I'm confident in one thing come Sunday: I'll be drinking before kickoff. From there, who knows?
want to know why I'm not nervous Doc?  
WeatherMan : 10/3/2014 7:46 pm : link
the form of Eli Manning. He's strung together three games where he's not just in command, he's locked in and driving this offense through the opposition at will. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the show - he's going to rip the Falcons apart.
The confidence comes from  
illmatic : 10/3/2014 7:52 pm : link
the way the Giants have played the past few weeks. Mix that with a dose of injuries on their side and it gets people even more amped up. But yeah, any given Sunday and stuff.
If there's anything the Giants have shown me over the years  
HelmetCatch : 10/3/2014 8:02 pm : link
it's expect the unexpected. No game is a given - no team we can't lose to - no team we can't beat....
This Game  
Percy : 10/3/2014 9:19 pm : link
Giants have to keep focused on this one, not the two that follow it. I fear that's hard to do when most think this one will be a walk in the park. Can they? Will they? If so, we'll win it. If not, . . . well, no one wants to think along those lines. So they sort of have to win this one, easy or hard, however that turns out. Have to earn it.
OP  
Q : 10/3/2014 9:40 pm : link
Nice post, doc.

The first thing I'm looking for on Sunday is Mike Tice in coaching gear.
lest  
Stephen in SoFla : 10/5/2014 5:01 pm : link
we forget.
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