Disclosure - this thread is strictly for assessing his upside. Of course he's still a rookie, has to prove everything, blah blah blah. Let's put that aside here and think big.
Who does he remind you of / have the potential to play like? We all think he can be something special, but what does that look like? Obviously he doesn't have the size of Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, AJ Green and he's not quite as shifty as Desean Jackson.
What other 6 foot receivers have had the threat of blazing speed, great hands, explosive leaping ability and perhaps most important, phenomenal route running?
Marvin Harrison?
I like what I saw but let's give it some time. An 11.0 average ypc can remind me of a lot of receivers. Nice to finally see him in a Giant uniform.
In all seriousness he looked like Hakeem Nicks or even Mario Manningham. He looked real good, but other than high-pointing the ball for the Touchdown nothing stood out to me as awe-inspiring. The kid looked good and lets go from there.
Very smooth and sudden with good speed too.
Really if you were to draw a WR up (as God) it would be Beckham + 4 inches (that's what she said) and minus the frosted mohawk.
And
Big Daddy Kane
The football player, not the terrible human being
But it's really early. I'd need to see a few more games under his belt before I could accurately make a fair comparison.
Ike went to Florida. But carry on please.
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Don't forget OBJ didn't cure cancer this weekend like Martin.
That's fantastic.
HE has to stay healthy and prove it but that's what I see. Not the biggest guy in the world but he plays bigger and his speed, route running and leaping ability look to be off the charts.
In fact, being able to scare the defense in your first game back IS awe-inspiring, even if you only get 4 catches. They were back-pedaling on him before the snap.
WR he looks like: how about a faster Cruz? Nicks didnt have his shiftiness.
BEckham is a super nova type talent. HE's a game changer. This is not a possession WR. This is a Ferrari.
Other comparisons I've seen that make sense are Greg Jennings. Marvin harrison and Santonio Holmes
Play 10 Yards off for an easy pitch and catch .
If Randle would play with a little more desire
and Fire good luck stopping us provided the
O-line keeps improving and stays healthy .
BEckham is a super nova type talent. HE's a game changer. This is not a possession WR. This is a Ferrari.
There are terrible comparisons here. People are just picking names of good WR's.
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The comparison is on playing style, not performance to date.
Ike was very special until dirty waters got him in philly. He was never the same after the neck injury.
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The only similarity between this guy and Ike Hillard is that they both got drafted in the top 15 and went to LSU. Ike is the most overrated giant wideout of all time. He was a number 7 pick who never topped 1,000 years in a season. The guy was a decent receiver but a complete BUST for where he was drafted. Its a small sample set but I can already see clearly this guy is on another planet when it comes to talent. So far I see a taller Steve Smith...and if that holds we are in for some very good times with this guy.
Ike was very special until dirty waters got him in philly. He was never the same after the neck injury.
IIRC Ike took an even worse hit in his rookie year against Jax which knocked him out the entire season. He looked special before that but turned out to be a good, but not great receiver after that
Height: TH 6.0 / OBJ 5.11
Weight: TH 192 / OBJ 198
40YD: TH 4.38s / OBJ 4.43s
10yd split: TH 1.57s / OBJ 1.56s
20yd split: TH 2.62s / OBJ 2.52s
Vertical: TH 37in / OBJ 38.5in
Broad: TH 9ft10in/ OBJ 9ft6in
If he's anything like Holt, we're going to have fun watching on Sundays!
Didn't Hilliard go to Florida?
At least it wasn't Roger Waters.
Actually, what cracks ME up is that you didn't even know that it was Florida that Hilliard attended and not LSU.
You're either really young or really stupid. Or both.
THAT is the correct cunt-faced piece of shit Eagles safety! It is understandable though, as they have a number of them over the years!
Hilliard, a decent starter but nothing special, was not a bust. He was just about average for a #7 overall pick. Look at the #5-#10 overall picks in that time period--say from 5 years before Ike to 5 years after. You will find real busts, a number of stars, and plenty of players, like Ike, who were decent starters. Roughly a quarter busts, a quarter stars, and half decent players.
Haha. Yeah, I can definitely see that
Ike was a Gator, he didn't go to LSU.
And his career was derailed by multiple injuries. When people talk about Hilliard, they're talking about him before he got beat up. He was an explosive guy. 7th overall pick for a reason.
are Torry Holt and Greg Jennings..
That'll work for me.
What cracks me up is that you sound like someone who wasn't around for Ike Hilliard. All your "analysis" provides is the fact that you can parrot back someone's career stats. Didn't consider injuries, and playing in an era where rules weren't so stacked in the offense's favor. Oh, and It'd be easier to take you seriously without the hyperbole. To be the "most overrated giant wideout of all time" there has to be some consensus that Ike is indeed overrated. No one here is ranking Ike ahead of Plax, Nicks, or Toomer on their all time greatest Giants wr list.
Another profile mentioned Mike Wallace. To me, Wallace is more of a pure speed guy than Beckham, but they do both bring the ability to stretch a defense.
What we don't know yet is whether Beckham will force defenses to rotate coverage toward him. If he does, he's a game-changer for the Giants - and particularly for Victor Cruz.
Definitely
I'd sign up for that. 4 pro bowls in 5 seasons, multiple 1000 yard seasons, 11 year career.
I'd sign up for that. 4 pro bowls in 5 seasons, multiple 1000 yard seasons, 11 year career.
Sans the Cell phone
Agreed, calling Ike overrated is ridiculous. Guy came back from a ton of serious injuries and turned in a very good and long career
Oh, and fuck Brian Dawkins
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I'm thinking more playing style and speed than combine comparisons, and I actually think the Hilliard comparison is decent if Hilliard was sped up and given bigger mitts. Both have that stop on a dime ability but Beckham's catch radius seems much much larger and he's obviously a more explosive athlete.
[quote] In comment 11903393 Chris L. said:
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The only similarity between this guy and Ike Hillard is that they both got drafted in the top 15 and went to LSU. Ike is the most overrated giant wideout of all time. He was a number 7 pick who never topped 1,000 years in a season. The guy was a decent receiver but a complete BUST for where he was drafted. Its a small sample set but I can already see clearly this guy is on another planet when it comes to talent. So far I see a taller Steve Smith...and if that holds we are in for some very good times with this guy.
Wow, Ive never heard anyone else hate on hilliard. I couldnt agree more ( on your hilliard assessment ). I was never a fan of his..... Hilliard was a good slot type reciever but never lived up to the #7 pick he was drafted with. One can argue that his 3 TD game in the 2000 NFC Championship game made him worth it, but that was ultimately for nothing as he only had 30 yards in SB35....and finally, Hilliard went to Florida, not LSU