"Beckham caught four passes for 44 yards and the game-winning touchdown in his first game back from a hamstring injury. It could have been even more. Much more..." Link - ( New Window )
at least not all of them. They were plays were he had man coverage on the RB, saw the RB start to block so he came in and ended up giving up the completion.
at least not all of them. They were plays were he had man coverage on the RB, saw the RB start to block so he came in and ended up giving up the completion.
wasn't mentioned - the play where OBJ drew a double-flag on the corner
Pre-snap, the CB jumped up to play tight press coverage on OBJ, isolated wide to the left...it seemed like he was daring the rookie to beat him, and there was a buzz in the upper deck where I was sitting about how OBJ had a chance to beat him
Obviously, he got by him at the line, and the CB had to basically clutch and grab for 25 yards to keep him from blowing past, for which he rightly drew 2 calls
The Falcons sure paid attention to him after that, and he still beat his man for the go ahead TD
I also noticed on that big 3rd down pass play to Randle that he dropped late in 4th qtr and we had to settle for a 50 yard FG attempt. OBJ is open on a comeback route right near Randle but Eli didn't choose to throw to him. That needs to change...
I am fairly shocked at Herzlich and the run defense accolades in this article. Hope he can keep it up and maybe even improve on his pass defense so as to stay on the field. I am not optimistic though...
I wasn't familiar with Antonio Brown but a quick look at his stats shows he's very, very good.
After seeing some of these pictures, I'm almost shocked that OBJ was able to get that open so many times. It's as if the Falcons just didn't bother to cover him, or covering Beckham was an afterthought.
How often do you see a receiver that open? Maybe once per game on a blown coverage. This kid may be something special.
He has great feet, which enables him to change direction at full speed (which is murder on CBs), especially on double moves.
By the way, the guy with the best feet in pro football is probably the Packers Jordy Nelson, who is linebacker slow (4.51), but turns CBs inside out all day.
If I was McAdoo. I'd lock Beckham in the film room all day and have him watch Jordy Nelson tape all day. He's several times more naturally talented than Nelson, with work he can truly become a VERY scary man.
Yea, Brown is a beast. Eye balling it they look like similar sizes and both have that punt returner ability with the ball in their hands. Also both can get deep as well run those short shifty Cruz like routes that taller wrs have trouble with.
at least not all of them. They were plays were he had man coverage on the RB, saw the RB start to block so he came in and ended up giving up the completion.
Not sure where you are getting that. At least three designed blitzes with no coverage responsibilities, including on the TD, where Rolle was covering the RB.
RE: Great read, but the other play that stood out Â
wasn't mentioned - the play where OBJ drew a double-flag on the corner
Pre-snap, the CB jumped up to play tight press coverage on OBJ, isolated wide to the left...it seemed like he was daring the rookie to beat him, and there was a buzz in the upper deck where I was sitting about how OBJ had a chance to beat him
Obviously, he got by him at the line, and the CB had to basically clutch and grab for 25 yards to keep him from blowing past, for which he rightly drew 2 calls
The Falcons sure paid attention to him after that, and he still beat his man for the go ahead TD
All true. I had a bunch of other stuff, including his blocking on one play. But could only put so much into the post without reaching overload.
McClain had Ryan lined up, and somehow missed him.....
McClain has had his moments, but they are few and far between....but he is still better than any Giant linebacker that can physically trot out onto the field....
he looks like the kind of player that can take it to the house, on any play, once he is confident in that hammy being healed......he will definitely open it up for Cruz, again....If we can continue to maintain a healthy balance with the passing and running game, it makes these two guys very dangerous...
I like this kind of writing best. Very informative, and leads to good discussion about x's and o's.
I specifically appreciated the focus on Herzlich, whose shortcomings have been apparent to everyone on BBI. It is good to see that maybe our coaches aren't crazy.
Jordan - if you're still checking this out why don't you do us a favor and do some research on BBI's absolute, 100% favorite whipping boy. Quinn.
My guess is that while you will find that our ST's have had disastrous moments under him, that every year you will see significant improvements made under him when comparing the early part of the season to the latter part. I haven't done this research myself, so it's just a theory at this point. But honestly, given the amount of ST breakdowns under his watch, if he wasn't one helluva coach he'd have to be gone by now - no?
I read some OBJ/Jackson comparisons around draft time and saw some comments by Eagles fans hoping he would fall and be a replacement. The most similar quality being height, bucking the trend of the 6ft plus guys ruling the league.
If you look at his LSU highlights, OBJ has all the slashy skills Jackson has, so I don't think the comparison is off. I am excited that he has all that speed with 15 pounds more on him. I think he's going to be a force. He's got track speed but not a track body. When he starts returning punts we're in for a treat.
If you were paying attention to that side of the field, it was an amazing thing to see. He got burnt and when he realized he couldn't keep up with Beckham's speed, he drew the double flag.
Then later on, he played so soft, Beckham ran a curl route and Alford just kept running deep. He was completely exposed and very fortunate he wasn't targeted more often.
He reminds me a lot of Mario Manningham, as a six-footer, BEFORE he came to this team (when he was at Michigan).
I remember watching him back then and was always surprised how he seemed to be so wide-open all the time. His forty time was 4.59, but man was the master of the juke and change of direction.
He reminds me a lot of Mario Manningham, as a six-footer, BEFORE he came to this team (when he was at Michigan).
I remember watching him back then and was always surprised how he seemed to be so wide-open all the time. His forty time was 4.59, but man was the master of the juke and change of direction.
Manningham ran a 4.59 in borrowed shoes and he had never run out of blocks before.. he ran a 4.38 at his pro day..
He has great feet, which enables him to change direction at full speed (which is murder on CBs), especially on double moves.
By the way, the guy with the best feet in pro football is probably the Packers Jordy Nelson, who is linebacker slow (4.51), but turns CBs inside out all day.
If I was McAdoo. I'd lock Beckham in the film room all day and have him watch Jordy Nelson tape all day. He's several times more naturally talented than Nelson, with work he can truly become a VERY scary man.
This is why one should not rely too heavily on 40 times to judge speed on a football field. Saying Jordy Nelson is linebacker-fast on a football field is a joke.
His best play was the one Eli chucked out of bounds. Â
He ran a great route and torched the defender. Making his go move at exactly the right time. Looked extremely polished on that play and showEd something I wasn't expecting to see so soon. Reminded me of Steve Smith snapping ankles in SB42, but did it on a deep route.
considering the caliber of athlete Alford is. Even during the broadcast they referred to him as one of the two fastest players on the Falcons.
Alford ran a 4.39 40 at the 2013 combine, so he would qualify as one of the faster corners in the league. So Beckham scaring him with his speed is frightening for most of the league and great for us :)
he ran 4.43 at the combine but in a brand new pair of shoes...one of the unofficial heats was 4.31 which is blazing fast. I think only Brandin Cooks ran a faster unofficial time
Nelson, an outstanding receiver plays at about 220 …. Â
Look at the following outstanding NFL linebackers' weight and times … Patrick Willis (240) - 4.51; Von Miller (250) - 4.53; Luke Kuechly (235) 5.58.
The point I'm trying to make is that OBJ may not have Dion Sanders speed (4.21), or even DRC (4.29); he does have excellent speed and doesn't seem to lose anything when changing direction (much like Nelson does it).
My most vivid (although very painful) memory of Nelson is how he exposed and basically ended Corey Webster's career with a series of double moves and long receptions.
there is only 37 snaps worth of film on him. He hasn't run every route yet, he'll get into more packages this week, and so the Giants will be able to throw some things at Philly with OBJ that no one has seen before. That's huge!
The praise for Herzlich doesn't surprise me that much. Â
He figured to do better outside. He wasn't a MIKE at BC, and that position doesn't fit his skill set or body type very well: he doesn't have the speed to play sideline-to-sideline; he often took poor angles; and with his rangy build and sluggish feet he tended to get caught up in the garbage. As a backup at the LB spot that gets the fewest snaps in this defense - one where he can set the edge and play mostly downhill, with blockers coming from one direction - I think he's adequate. With repetition, he might be as good there as Kiwanuka was (post-injury).
That said, the defense sorely misses a healthy Jon Beason.
Falcons were geared to taking away Donnell and Cruz. With Randle also on the field, the Giants could anticipate and force the coverage they wanted on Beckham.
Beckham was the FOURTH guy that the Falcons considered on defense...that won't be the case going forward.
Beckham changed the game...... yet to be seen what happens when he draws a #1/2 defender and a scheme that addresses him aa a higher priority.
He's an awesome talent...and a HANDS Catcher who goes up and gets the ball. Add speed and after the catch ability---nice, nice player!
That was the beauty of Cruz and Nicks....they complemented each other and made each other better.....you concentrate on one, and the other beats you...OBj will be the new Nicks.....this makes Cruz better, Parker better, Donnell better, and opens it up for our RB's catching passes out of the backfield...
Falcons CB Robert Alford
"We prepared for him this whole week so we just have to go out there and execute. ... Everybody is in the NFL for a reason. Everybody is good."
...he's not even close to being a weak spot in that defense. Opponents could start giving Beckham star treatment, with a safety over the top; but as even Doomster says - wonder of wonders - if they do that it will be Salsa Time.
Doomster: Is Herzlich is a bigger coverage liability than Kiwanuka? Â
I thought this was an underrated catch. Beckham has deep speed, but he also has the ability to be a possession receiver as well. He's a threat on all levels of the field. I hope we throw some quick hitters his way this week, the ones that Randle is doing nothing on.
is such a unique player though. His Napoleon Complex is ridiculous and he seems like the toughest guy on the field every single week.
I need to see more from Beckham in terms of toughness and physical strength before I could make a straight up Steve Smith comp. One of the knocks on Beckham was that he only benched 7 times and might struggle to overpower DBs at the next level.
that Eli missed the easy dump off over the middle to the RB who could have picked up a nice gain on the play. But Eli's still learning this too and will find these options better I'm sure.
And you know McClain's responsibilities - how?
Pre-snap, the CB jumped up to play tight press coverage on OBJ, isolated wide to the left...it seemed like he was daring the rookie to beat him, and there was a buzz in the upper deck where I was sitting about how OBJ had a chance to beat him
Obviously, he got by him at the line, and the CB had to basically clutch and grab for 25 yards to keep him from blowing past, for which he rightly drew 2 calls
The Falcons sure paid attention to him after that, and he still beat his man for the go ahead TD
I also noticed on that big 3rd down pass play to Randle that he dropped late in 4th qtr and we had to settle for a 50 yard FG attempt. OBJ is open on a comeback route right near Randle but Eli didn't choose to throw to him. That needs to change...
I am fairly shocked at Herzlich and the run defense accolades in this article. Hope he can keep it up and maybe even improve on his pass defense so as to stay on the field. I am not optimistic though...
After seeing some of these pictures, I'm almost shocked that OBJ was able to get that open so many times. It's as if the Falcons just didn't bother to cover him, or covering Beckham was an afterthought.
How often do you see a receiver that open? Maybe once per game on a blown coverage. This kid may be something special.
He has great feet, which enables him to change direction at full speed (which is murder on CBs), especially on double moves.
By the way, the guy with the best feet in pro football is probably the Packers Jordy Nelson, who is linebacker slow (4.51), but turns CBs inside out all day.
If I was McAdoo. I'd lock Beckham in the film room all day and have him watch Jordy Nelson tape all day. He's several times more naturally talented than Nelson, with work he can truly become a VERY scary man.
Not sure where you are getting that. At least three designed blitzes with no coverage responsibilities, including on the TD, where Rolle was covering the RB.
Pre-snap, the CB jumped up to play tight press coverage on OBJ, isolated wide to the left...it seemed like he was daring the rookie to beat him, and there was a buzz in the upper deck where I was sitting about how OBJ had a chance to beat him
Obviously, he got by him at the line, and the CB had to basically clutch and grab for 25 yards to keep him from blowing past, for which he rightly drew 2 calls
The Falcons sure paid attention to him after that, and he still beat his man for the go ahead TD
All true. I had a bunch of other stuff, including his blocking on one play. But could only put so much into the post without reaching overload.
Thanks all for reading.
So, who is he like ?
McClain has had his moments, but they are few and far between....but he is still better than any Giant linebacker that can physically trot out onto the field....
I specifically appreciated the focus on Herzlich, whose shortcomings have been apparent to everyone on BBI. It is good to see that maybe our coaches aren't crazy.
Jordan - if you're still checking this out why don't you do us a favor and do some research on BBI's absolute, 100% favorite whipping boy. Quinn.
My guess is that while you will find that our ST's have had disastrous moments under him, that every year you will see significant improvements made under him when comparing the early part of the season to the latter part. I haven't done this research myself, so it's just a theory at this point. But honestly, given the amount of ST breakdowns under his watch, if he wasn't one helluva coach he'd have to be gone by now - no?
Again - thanks for the good read.
If you look at his LSU highlights, OBJ has all the slashy skills Jackson has, so I don't think the comparison is off. I am excited that he has all that speed with 15 pounds more on him. I think he's going to be a force. He's got track speed but not a track body. When he starts returning punts we're in for a treat.
Then later on, he played so soft, Beckham ran a curl route and Alford just kept running deep. He was completely exposed and very fortunate he wasn't targeted more often.
I remember watching him back then and was always surprised how he seemed to be so wide-open all the time. His forty time was 4.59, but man was the master of the juke and change of direction.
I remember watching him back then and was always surprised how he seemed to be so wide-open all the time. His forty time was 4.59, but man was the master of the juke and change of direction.
Manningham ran a 4.59 in borrowed shoes and he had never run out of blocks before.. he ran a 4.38 at his pro day..
He has great feet, which enables him to change direction at full speed (which is murder on CBs), especially on double moves.
By the way, the guy with the best feet in pro football is probably the Packers Jordy Nelson, who is linebacker slow (4.51), but turns CBs inside out all day.
If I was McAdoo. I'd lock Beckham in the film room all day and have him watch Jordy Nelson tape all day. He's several times more naturally talented than Nelson, with work he can truly become a VERY scary man.
This is why one should not rely too heavily on 40 times to judge speed on a football field. Saying Jordy Nelson is linebacker-fast on a football field is a joke.
Alford ran a 4.39 40 at the 2013 combine, so he would qualify as one of the faster corners in the league. So Beckham scaring him with his speed is frightening for most of the league and great for us :)
Look at the following outstanding NFL linebackers' weight and times … Patrick Willis (240) - 4.51; Von Miller (250) - 4.53; Luke Kuechly (235) 5.58.
The point I'm trying to make is that OBJ may not have Dion Sanders speed (4.21), or even DRC (4.29); he does have excellent speed and doesn't seem to lose anything when changing direction (much like Nelson does it).
My most vivid (although very painful) memory of Nelson is how he exposed and basically ended Corey Webster's career with a series of double moves and long receptions.
Of course, you always hear about unofficial times, such as Deion's supposed 4.22
But the combine is when it counts. That's the best way to compare speed and agility, and Odell's times were great
So Odell is significantly bigger and ran a much better 3 cone and was only 3/100ths slower in the 40
That said, the defense sorely misses a healthy Jon Beason.
Beckham was the FOURTH guy that the Falcons considered on defense...that won't be the case going forward.
Beckham changed the game...... yet to be seen what happens when he draws a #1/2 defender and a scheme that addresses him aa a higher priority.
He's an awesome talent...and a HANDS Catcher who goes up and gets the ball. Add speed and after the catch ability---nice, nice player!
"We prepared for him this whole week so we just have to go out there and execute. ... Everybody is in the NFL for a reason. Everybody is good."
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Exciting.
DRC's injury is deflating though.
I thought this was an underrated catch. Beckham has deep speed, but he also has the ability to be a possession receiver as well. He's a threat on all levels of the field. I hope we throw some quick hitters his way this week, the ones that Randle is doing nothing on.
I need to see more from Beckham in terms of toughness and physical strength before I could make a straight up Steve Smith comp. One of the knocks on Beckham was that he only benched 7 times and might struggle to overpower DBs at the next level.
If he has a career like that it could end up being Reese's best pick.
OBJ will give you a subtle little move and fly by you.