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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/12/2014 9:48 am
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RE: Winning in Philly tonight...  
Jimmy Googs : 10/12/2014 12:21 pm : link
In comment 11913193 M.S. said:
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...will be tough.

Winning in Dallas the next week will be tougher.

I think it's beyond reasonable expectations to think we come out 2-0.

I'll take 1-1 gladly and -- if we play real well -- then 2-0 would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.


its not even reasonable??
RE: looking forward  
baadbill : 10/12/2014 12:23 pm : link
In comment 11913201 spike said:
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to seeing Beckham getting even better and taking Randle's starting job


I don't know the percentages, but I'm going to guess that the Giants have three wr on the fields more than 50% of their offensive snaps - and probably more than 75% of passing plays. Just a guess. But point is, IMO there are three starting WR, not two and Beckham is already a starter. And besides, Beckham is replacing Cruz, moving Cruz back to the slot.

Bottom line? With Beckham and O'Donnell, the Giants have a group of receivers that any team is going to struggle to defend. Loss of Jennings, however, really hurts the passing game in McAdoo's offense.
Go Giants!  
SoDev : 10/12/2014 12:25 pm : link
Fuck the eagles.
Eli at the Linc  
George : 10/12/2014 12:26 pm : link
6-3 regular season (0-1 playoffs, 2006). This is what always gives me hope about playing in Philly. But I have grown to be an eternal pessimist when playing big games against the Eagles, even though I've seen Big Blue come out on top many times.

I usually have a good sense of how things are going to shake out; but not this season. I really don't have a handle on this Giants team yet (which makes me feel like I'm in the minority on BBI, which seems convinced we've turned the corner already) and I really can't say for certain how good or bad the Eagles are.

I'm sensing the Eagles O isn't as bad as it's been the last three weeks, but their D isn't as good, either. I'm sensing the Giants O isn't as good as it's been the last three weeks, but their D is. Special Teams play might be a significant factor.

So - Not a bad Philly O against a pretty good NY D.
And - Not a bad NY O against a pretty lousy Philly D.
But - Philly ST against NY Coach Quinn

NY 32
Philly 27 (with one ST TD)

RE: Eli at the Linc  
baadbill : 10/12/2014 12:35 pm : link
In comment 11913219 George said:
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NY 32
Philly 27 (with one ST TD)


George, I hope you're wrong about the ST TD. From memory, statistically speaking, teams that give up an interception TD, fumble recovery TD, or ST TD, almost never win.
You may disagree but to me this game is the season  
mrvax : 10/12/2014 12:37 pm : link
I don't mean if they lose they are out of contention. I mean that this game will show us what sort of team we will have for the 2014 season.

This is the game that defines the 2014 Giants. I believe the Giants & Eagles will both give 100% effort. If our Giants lose it, then I will conclude the Eagles are a little better than our Gmen this year. If the Giants win a close one, it will tell me we have a solid chance to win the division and will likely make the playoffs barring any catastrophic injuries.

If our Giants win by double digits as I believe they will, just jump for joy. It will mean to me that this team will pound Dallas next week too and will finish the season with at least 11 wins.
RE: You may disagree but to me this game is the season  
baadbill : 10/12/2014 12:38 pm : link
In comment 11913230 mrvax said:
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I don't mean if they lose they are out of contention. I mean that this game will show us what sort of team we will have for the 2014 season.

This is the game that defines the 2014 Giants. I believe the Giants & Eagles will both give 100% effort. If our Giants lose it, then I will conclude the Eagles are a little better than our Gmen this year. If the Giants win a close one, it will tell me we have a solid chance to win the division and will likely make the playoffs barring any catastrophic injuries.

If our Giants win by double digits as I believe they will, just jump for joy. It will mean to me that this team will pound Dallas next week too and will finish the season with at least 11 wins.


And if the Giants look great, but lose a close game?
RE: RE: You may disagree but to me this game is the season  
mrvax : 10/12/2014 12:41 pm : link
In comment 11913236 baadbill said:
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And if the Giants look great, but lose a close game?


Bill, I'd believe then that the Eagles are a bit better. Finding ways to win games that they have no business winning.
We  
AcidTest : 10/12/2014 12:48 pm : link
have to contain Sproles, Ertz, and Celek. They could easily exploit our LBs. I think the game will be very close, but I'll predict the Giants win 24 - 20.
everyone on CBS just picked NYG  
Jints in Carolina : 10/12/2014 12:49 pm : link
uh oh LOL
lets ask the dude what he thinks:  
TexasGmenFan : 10/12/2014 12:51 pm : link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKcIhLV5SNI

i want to crush these fuckers.
This is not a must win for us - its a long season and this is a road  
PatersonPlank : 10/12/2014 12:51 pm : link
division game. IMO its a much bigger game for them.
picks  
spike : 10/12/2014 12:52 pm : link
Bradshaw and Strahan both picked NYG
SBlue  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/12/2014 12:53 pm : link
Washington may not even be active.
Strahan  
Zebra3 : 10/12/2014 12:55 pm : link
And JJ just picked us rut oh.
YEAH BABY  
Giantology : 10/12/2014 1:07 pm : link
7 more hours to go but I am PUMPED!!

WE ARE DOING THIS DAMN THING TONIGHT!

I bELIeves!

GO GiAnTs!!!!!!!!!!
RE: is Ayers playing  
Arcanum : 10/12/2014 1:11 pm : link
In comment 11913181 spike said:
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?


He made the trip
RE: YEAH BABY  
chris r : 10/12/2014 1:59 pm : link
In comment 11913284 Giantology said:
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7 more hours to go but I am PUMPED!!

WE ARE DOING THIS DAMN THING TONIGHT!

I bELIeves!

GO GiAnTs!!!!!!!!!!


ok gidie jr.
RE: looking forward  
BSIMatt : 10/12/2014 2:51 pm : link
In comment 11913201 spike said:
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to seeing Beckham getting even better and taking Randle's starting job


Per the Cosell/Eagles breakdown the other day: the Giants have used 11 personnel more than any team in the league thus far. The 3rd WR in the Giants attack essentially is a sarter.
Strange  
Frank ' Harrisburg : 10/12/2014 3:07 pm : link
Every prognosticator this AM picked the Giants. I hope not a jinx
^^^^^^^  
Sec 103 : 10/12/2014 3:40 pm : link
This sux... Always love the underdog role
It's going to be a bloodbath  
BlueHurricane : 10/12/2014 3:43 pm : link
We will be ready. The moment Coughlin muttered that Oh Yeah in his post game press conference I knew he would have this team ready.

LETS DO THIS.
baadbill  
SBlue46 : 10/12/2014 3:55 pm : link
Dont worry about Randal..
cruz has been bad...
Randle. ..parker..cruz..so far...
I am so psyched and confident  
Boatie Warrant : 10/12/2014 4:04 pm : link
for tonight's game!!!! I am now officially scared.......
RE: baadbill  
baadbill : 10/12/2014 4:45 pm : link
In comment 11913494 SBlue46 said:
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Dont worry about Randal..
cruz has been bad...
Randle. ..parker..cruz..so far...


Cruz will be just fine. Beckham, so long as he's truly healthy, is going to see to that. Put a healthy Beckham on the field, and every step he takes forward in his learning and confidence, is an equal step for Cruz getting more room and space. And the dropped balls are going to be a thing of the past - I think they've come because Cruz has been working in very narrow windows - again, as Beckham becomes a greater and greater threat, Cruz is going to see more and more space.
No mistakes  
Model4001 : 10/12/2014 4:56 pm : link
No stupid shit on specials, attack their secondary and watch out for Shady suddenly figuring it out...do all that and they may be okay.

Either way the Giants have played their way to a meaningful game today, which is awesome!

TypE lIkE yoU Have A hEad INJury GOOOOooo GIIIIaNTS!!!11!
Any updates from the Linc parking lot  
RDJR : 10/12/2014 5:23 pm : link
on the dragging of the eagle? Rich?
Eric: Washington will almost certainly dress.  
Big Blue Blogger : 10/12/2014 5:30 pm : link
There are only five WRs on the roster.

Likely inactives are Jennings, Paysinger, and either five linemen Or four linemen plus Hosley.

No need to sit Washington unless they dress eight OL and nine DL.
What is the final on Beason tonight ?  
shabu : 10/12/2014 5:44 pm : link
What is the final on Beason tonight ?
NYG offense needs to not let Philly defense dictate to them  
JonC : 10/12/2014 5:47 pm : link
Get out in front, we're going to need to keep scoring tonight.

Is Beason playing? I've been out of the loop with work.
RE: What is the final on Beason tonight ?  
spike : 10/12/2014 5:49 pm : link
In comment 11913774 shabu said:
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What is the final on Beason tonight ?


when is the inactives list coming out?
eric  
SBlue46 : 10/12/2014 6:02 pm : link
Dallas has best oline in NFL...
THANKS to Pope...2..3 tes blocking
Just got into work....fired up the slingbox for the Dallas game  
Jints in Carolina : 10/12/2014 6:50 pm : link
and am anxiously awaiting kickoff.
..  
CGiants07 : 10/12/2014 6:52 pm : link
Art Stapleton þ@art_stapleton · 42s42 seconds ago
Giants inactives: Jennings, Paysinger, Snyder, Wynn, Brewer, Mosley and Bromley. #NYG

RE: I know it's one game at a time  
BrettNYG10 : 10/12/2014 6:55 pm : link
In comment 11913132 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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but I'm viewing this as a 2 game mini-playoff of sorts.

Lose both games, we're in deeep shit
Split the two games, we're "ok"
Win both games, we're in the driver's seat

I'm so pumped for this. I saw so many Giants sweatshirts and apparel yesterday, all of us fans are so ready for this game after the embarrassment of last season.

I think the two keys to the game for us are the DL play and the RB play. The difference between the 1st and 2nd halves against Atlanta last week was mainly due to the DL play. But against this Eagles team we can't have our DL only show up for one half. If our DL can dominate that Philly OL, we should win this game.

And although I'm a big fan of Andre Williams as a runner, I'm worried about our RBs in the passing game. Jennings was a good blocker and receiver, hopefully Hillis and Williams protect Eli well tonight and also make catches when it comes their way.

And the x-factor is clearly ODB aka OBJ aka Lil Becks aka Philly's worst nightmare. Can't wait to see how he plays tonight in a primetime divisional playoff game, hopefully he delivers.


I completely agree. Losing both of these games would make me think making the playoffs is highly unlikely. Going 7-2 over our last nine seems like an extremely tough task given our schedule.
RE: ..  
WeatherMan : 10/12/2014 6:59 pm : link
In comment 11913930 CGiants07 said:
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Art Stapleton þ@art_stapleton · 42s42 seconds ago
Giants inactives: Jennings, Paysinger, Snyder, Wynn, Brewer, Mosley and Bromley. #NYG

Huh, Brown is active for the first time then. Hope we don't need him.
lol - my four year old says  
Giants2012 : 10/12/2014 7:13 pm : link
"Uggggggh, i don't want to watch commercials". Lol, nice job NFL
I guess Ayers  
PEEJ : 10/12/2014 7:22 pm : link
is ready as well
I want to see the D play fast.  
GiantsUA : 10/12/2014 7:36 pm : link
No sitting back and waiting.
I hope Beason is back at 100%  
jcn56 : 10/12/2014 7:38 pm : link
not that he's not better at 80% than our alternatives, just hoping he's healthy and ready to rumble.
I hope we curbstomp these shitheads  
GMenLTS : 10/12/2014 7:48 pm : link
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RE: I hope Beason is back at 100%  
baadbill : 10/12/2014 7:53 pm : link
In comment 11914140 jcn56 said:
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not that he's not better at 80% than our alternatives, just hoping he's healthy and ready to rumble.


The defense is an entirely different defense with a healthy Beason ... and scary as hell when he's not
Ok, when did we get the rep a talkers  
JOrthman : 10/12/2014 7:54 pm : link
especially when they have guys like McCoy?
and scary as hell when he's not  
baadbill : 10/12/2014 7:54 pm : link
out there
After what I saw Dallas do today against Seattle...  
M.S. : 10/12/2014 8:01 pm : link

...beating the living shit out of them on both sides of the LOS, maybe it is imperative we win tonight!

In any event, next week will be a colossal nightmare if we don't go into Dallas with our "A" game.
Dallas win today makes a Giants win tonight that much more important  
GloryDayz : 10/12/2014 8:04 pm : link
Dont want to fall 2 games behind a good team (Philly) and a very good team (Dallas) in the division.

Still plenty of time left, but I think a loss tonight leaves the Giants with not much room for error the rest of the way.
GloryDayz...  
M.S. : 10/12/2014 8:06 pm : link

...exactly!

(and Dallas is a nightmare)!
RE: GloryDayz...  
GloryDayz : 10/12/2014 8:15 pm : link
In comment 11914232 M.S. said:
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...exactly!

(and Dallas is a nightmare)!


Yeah... I think a lot of people, myself included, penciled in a Loss for Dallas @ SEA.

Before Cowboy's win today, a 3-3 outcome over the next 6 games might have been ok, now I think Giants need to go 4-2 with at least 1 win in the division if the want to stay in contention for the division title
Just  
spike : 10/12/2014 8:17 pm : link
no F Ups on ST! Dont even bother running the ball of the endzone
It can be either Dallas and Philly running away in the div  
micky : 10/12/2014 8:21 pm : link
if Philly wins tonight and Giants hanging above washington...or...a 3 way race setting up between the three. Swing game here in division
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