but this has been one of my worst sports weekends ever between betting, coaching, and fantasy..... I expect the Giants to lose in the most disgusting way imaginable.
but this has been one of my worst sports weekends ever between betting, coaching, and fantasy..... I expect the Giants to lose in the most disgusting way imaginable.
Critical to keep pace now that NFC west has muddied. A lot of people penciled in 2 teams from the west, but SEA losing today changes the picture very much.
Wow, it does not look like a single Eagle player is wearing pink (at least on offense). At least some of the Giants players are wearing pink shoes. They took the blackout thing a little too seriously. I'd be surprised if the league lets them get away with it.
Wow, it does not look like a single Eagle player is wearing pink (at least on offense). At least some of the Giants players are wearing pink shoes. They took the blackout thing a little too seriously. I'd be surprised if the league lets them get away with it.
Wow, it does not look like a single Eagle player is wearing pink (at least on offense). At least some of the Giants players are wearing pink shoes. They took the blackout thing a little too seriously. I'd be surprised if the league lets them get away with it.
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Wow, it does not look like a single Eagle player is wearing pink (at least on offense). At least some of the Giants players are wearing pink shoes. They took the blackout thing a little too seriously. I'd be surprised if the league lets them get away with it.
maybe they have pink jocks...
I wouldn't touch one of those jocks with a 20' pole let alone buy it for charity.
Beatty too can't hold those blocks. His guys always get away from him if Eli starts rolling around on that side. So bad 3rd and 1 and they don't convert.
because the defensive line is getting zero pressure. It's hard enough to cover in this league with the rules now, but if you are getting zero pressure you have no chance
Simple...
Hill is a stoner who puts himself before his team
We had a young kid (WTF is his name Cody something?) who is on IR
Stevie Brown is getting burned too
Looks like the same defense we have had for MOST of our games over the past two seasons. We were fortunate enough to play a lot better the past few games. I guess we got bad Fewell today
Can start talking about how they are so much better then the Eagles, that is a game we would never lose, especially the Sack Master JPP, he is the best at it.
DRC did everything right, that was a perfect throw and catch. Offense needs to give the D a breather. This game is absolutely not over. We'll score on their D, just need to sustain a drive.
was what did us in. Gave this poor excuse of a defense a reason to look like a shining diamond ring. Letting the Eagles win is the most pathetic I've seen with my eyes. aside from my GPA from college.
by a tight end. Williams is the only one who will punch them in the mouth.
He didn't get beat, he had right coverage. Needed perfect throw to beat him and that is the one consistent throw Foles can make. U need a guy over the top to beat that play if u want to stop even a perfect throw.
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did he not have a chance there?
lol. Here we go. Evertything back to Eli;s fault. No he couldnt do anythign there schmuck. He is in the pocket plus by the time he plated his foot, the guy was right in his face.
hits hard, but sometimes it looks like he knows he's gonna get hit so just gives up the play and tries to get 1 more yard- missing holes because of it.
Good to see the rookies out there. No way this wasn't going to be a shit show. But we can win this game. Need the D to step up. TC witb that challenge was brutal.
Had to get off the field. I don't blame McAdoo for that call. The O line is screwed up and not making adjustments. Eagles are teeing off on the snap counts.
Far too many times. Coughlins teams just don't turn up far too often.
It's not an issue with Coughlin's teams, it's an issue with this group of players. His teams for nearly two decades were always competitive even in most losses
Far too many times. Coughlins teams just don't turn up far too often.
It's not an issue with Coughlin's teams, it's an issue with this group of players. His teams for nearly two decades were always competitive even in most losses
We turned over around 23 players. At some point the coaching needs come into question for these flat games.
Far too many times. Coughlins teams just don't turn up far too often.
It's not an issue with Coughlin's teams, it's an issue with this group of players. His teams for nearly two decades were always competitive even in most losses
Not just this group of players - this has happened frequently since 2009
Pugh needs help against a scrub? So much confusion in yur post.
when u are sucking asshole. No matter who then give some help... Pugh should not be getting shat on that bad. But for whatever reason maybe he left his nuts at home, I dunno. He needs some help
"It's not an issue with Coughlin's teams, it's an issue with this group of players. His teams for nearly two decades were always competitive even in most losses"
Mook, I beg to differ...I was in Cincinnati & Baltimore 2 years ago, and Carolina last year...those were just some of the shit shows in recent history. I remember a game in New Orleans & Atlanta a few years ago, and there were more.....sometimes this team is embarrassing
Far too many times. Coughlins teams just don't turn up far too often.
It's not an issue with Coughlin's teams, it's an issue with this group of players. His teams for nearly two decades were always competitive even in most losses
Not just this group of players - this has happened frequently since 2009
of a feeding frenzy ... Giants need to get at least one first down here or else Eagles are getting the ball at the 40-50 ... and can't fucking turn it over here
Giants look inept, slow and confused on offense. Pugh doesn't seem to be able to block tonight -- too slow. Eli can't get set to do anything. Williams can't get anywhere. Of course, that's just the way it is at the moment. Can it improve?
quick passing concepts? Is Gilbride calling these plays?! Use the passing concepts that have got us to this point. Stop dropping back. 2 seconds and get rid of the fucking ball!!!!
This is not good! Bad defense?! Who said we can exploit this bad D? Holy shit, if we can't block anybody we don't have an offense. This is now looking like a blow out and and Eagles are close to more points!!!
under constant pressure, but Eli needs to hang in there a bit longer then he did on 3rd down there. Collinsworth is correct, the clock in his head is quick.
but this has been one of my worst sports weekends ever between betting, coaching, and fantasy..... I expect the Giants to lose in the most disgusting way imaginable.
Pretty much. Just haven't turned up, the Eagles will run up a huge score. Frankly mind boggling how poor we've been. We're not coming back into this while we can't block a lick.
I would be happy if he get a burst of speed from somewhere. Because every motion of his is in slow motion. Even handing off the ball the Defense is already alert because he takes so long to do it.
sacked FIVE times in 3 or 4 possessions ... he's inside the pocket and can't throw it away without being called for intentional grounding ... not that he has time to throw it away (he doesn't have time to do anything but duck)
It's as though people don't learn ... when an OL doesn't block, there isn't a QB in the world who can do anything.
Should be 0-4, tell them JPP, tell them they aren't any good, don't they realize it, they need to be reminded, that's all, then this game will turn right around. Talk to them JPP! After all, he is so great that he can talk all he wants to.
Their D is playing enough to hold the Giants this game
is fucking bad ass. Lol It really is fun to watch. This game is about done.
It might be a great scheme, but this game has nothing to do with that. They're getting physically smashed
Yeah due to scheme. Their guys are beating our coverage and badly. Mismatches and misdirection is key in that scheme. Even their running plays are providing them with gaping holes. Its a damn good scheme.
enough, Quentin Demps fucking toasted. He doesn't belong on an NFL roster never mind playing, don't care who the backups are, they can't be any worse
The only word I collected to describe my thoughts on his signing is bewildered. He's just a bad football player, return "ability" be damned, and I can't believe they actively pursued him.
Once again, GodDAMN you Will Hill, you stupid, stupid asshole...
It has always seemed like the Eagles have had our number for years. Doesn't matter who the coach or who the players are. I think it started with the Pcarzik handoff to Csonka.
which of our online an is the worst and which phase of the game are we weakest. Right now I think our offense is worse than our STs and that is saying a lot.
This Eagles team woke up. Fucking trash talking is something this team shouldn't do.
Eagles are flat out killing us. The OL isn't good to use 5 and 7 drops. Run the same shit we ran in the past games. 1 step and throw it X hot or Z hot. Get rid of the ball. Get the completion percentage up.
RE: I'd be surprised if it's not 24-0 at half here
Coles right up the middle and McAdoo hasn't adjusted yet. Kinda would love to hear why. Kind of sad. At point I'm not sure there's a single player or coach who hasn't been outcoached or outplayed.
The Eagles look a LOT better tonight than they normally do. It's not just the Giants sucking. There's just something about these two teams playing each other. Eagles have the Giants' number.
He is an obvious troll, but it's not like the non trolls in this thread are any better.
This thread is a bigger disaster than the game so far.
It's really pretty incredible. But it should get better pretty soon. It's 9:30 and most have bedtimes that should at least make the 2nd half on the thread at least tolerable
This is getting rediculous, every penalty is against us too
The Eagles look a LOT better tonight than they normally do. It's not just the Giants sucking. There's just something about these two teams playing each other. Eagles have the Giants' number.
to show up. Got his money in the off-season, then of course got hurt again and is getting his ass handed to him this game. I'm disappointed that they settled for this guy in the offseason
This Eagles team woke up. Fucking trash talking is something this team shouldn't do.
Eagles are flat out killing us. The OL isn't good to use 5 and 7 drops. Run the same shit we ran in the past games. 1 step and throw it X hot or Z hot. Get rid of the ball. Get the completion percentage up.
Eli is 6/7 and the one incomplete was a screen to Hillis that got blown up because the OL is really that bad tonight.
Completion percentage is not the problem and, honestly, the plays aren't taking anywhere near as long to develop as some are making it sound in this thread.
It's not getting any better. There's a lot of game left to play, but our D doesn't look so hot either. On O we look a lot like Tampa Bay: hapless. If we get behind by 30, I'll quit. More than half-way there in the 2d Q.
score a td here and then at the start of the 2nd half and it's a game again.
But then I remember how we've played. I don't see us putting a drive together. We might score on a bomb because despite everything the Eagles are pretty poor defensively but drives require proper execution. We don't look capable of that tonight.
He looks like dogshit out there. Not that the rest of them look much better, but he's been getting his ass handed to him all night, which is atypical of him.
fast moving offense? Hot reads, three step drops, etc.
I am wondering too. Where did our offense go from past few weeks? What'sthis bullshit of dropping bback and taking time? Get rid of the ball quicker. Only thing I can think of is we don't trust Williams catching the ball so we eliminated those concepts and added more or deeper drop back passing concepts.
bad defense, bad offense and as usual bad special teams
Their inability to adjust to the Eagles constant pressure up the middle is frustrating. Not sure if it's simply a matter of the OL being physically outplayed and there's nothing the coaches can do, but you'd expect more shorter routes/passing to try to offset that heat. Instead, we keep running right into it.
are looking like preseason. nothing positive at all to look at. not one play, not one player, not one scheme.. all sucked, almost like they didn't prepare. this has happened way too often under Coughlin.
I'm sick of this shit football for the past two years
beat shit teams. We can't beat decent teams. That's looking like who we are. I'm not going to give up on the season because they got hammered in Philadelphia, but that's looking like the theme of this season for the Giants. We need a lot more speed at LB and S.
That was clearly intentional grounding, not called, I suppose, because no one really want to watch Eli get killed. This game is functionally over. Our players do not seem to be up to NFL-caliber play. How many more will the Eagles score before the half?
But, is our Center planning on blocking anyone today? They've been turned loose up the middle all game. Is he on the take or something? Did Eli sleep with his girl?
10 yards away in coverage. Yet, the thing that bothers me the most is they are back in the slow fucking huddle with the clock winding down as we snap it.
The Eagles have been in trouble every other fucking game and have relied on STs to bail them out. The Giants are the only team that can't stick it to them on either side of the ball?
Fucking get the RB out there. If he drops it, so be it. But this is not our offense. This is the shit we ran last year and we aren't good enough to run this.
OL has reverted to preseason form. Their problem is that they can't handle speed rushers, at least not those from better teams. They've all been bad tonight in that regard, but especially Pugh and Jerry.
the difference is that Philly must throw deep. If we were in the midst of the 2nd quarter, Foles would have just dumped it off to a back for a 15 yard gain
... one of the Eagles ... was saying that their scheme was simple ... they felt they could dominate the Giants OL and put a helmet on Eli every play ... pretty good execution of a game plan so far
It looked like donnell and Cruz were open on that play
Apparently not enough. Oh vey, strict pocket passers are good but how I wouldn't mind for a scrambling qb at some point in some of these games. Stuff that they do get taken for granted or belittled. They can keep drives alive.
up in the box, it doesn't make any sense that we haven't thrown one pass deep on single coverage and given our WR's a chance to win one on one. We need to hit a big play to get their defense to soften up a bit and we haven't even attempted anything. Awful play calling in that first half.
Probably, but this team, like a lot of Coughlin teams, fails to show up for games, at times......there is no rhyme or reason for it.....we see it happen time and time again....and this after a 3 game winning streak....
Eagles can't play any better and we can't play any worse. This is not an insurmountable lead.
Has to take something like the twilight zone or something..because they don't have any answers to turn it around. Just come away healthy and learn their lessons for trying to improve as the year goes on.
Oh vey, strict pocket passers are good but how I wouldn't mind for a scrambling qb at some point in some of these games. Stuff that they do get taken for granted or belittled. They can keep drives alive.
Hmmm... Let's see ... the OL isn't blocking anyone ... and you're choice would be a scrambling QB instead of a good OL?
That makes a lot of sense.
Jerry has been the weak point on the Oline all season.
With Pugh having a bad night that whole side of the line has become a revolving door. Its a joke - they may need to bench Pugh tonight. They have to do something because Eli is getting killed out there and the run game is non-existent.
up in the box, it doesn't make any sense that we haven't thrown one pass deep on single coverage and given our WR's a chance to win one on one. We need to hit a big play to get their defense to soften up a bit and we haven't even attempted anything. Awful play calling in that first half.
We don't have the time. It's a blocking issue. Jerry and Pugh are getting annihilated instantly on every play and Walton doesn't look like he's seen an A gap blitz before. There's no time to take a shot.
Eagles can't play any better and we can't play any worse. This is not an insurmountable lead.
Really? You watching the same game as me? We have 0 offense tonight. If we can't move the ball consistently we cannot win this. They continue to load up the line and bring pressure play after play. We can't even get a play off.
I just read on twitter we stomped on their logo as a team before the
off of Cruz. Throw him the ball. 2 step drop. Throw it! Do it every play! Get the ball out immediately to Beckham & Cruz. How fucking hard is this? Do these coaches not see what is happening? Pathetic!!!!
Probably, but this team, like a lot of Coughlin teams, fails to show up for games, at times......there is no rhyme or reason for it.....we see it happen time and time again....and this after a 3 game winning streak....
I think the rhyme and reason to this is frankly the oline has just came to earth with a bang. Pugh looks physically unable to match up with the speed of the Philly rushers. Add in a rookie rb who can't execute half the offense and is shaky in protection, and a frankly mindboggling game plan of running on every 1st and 2nd down.
Agreed. The interceptions, fumbles and blocked punts are only a few tiny mistakes away. Eli should just throw the ball away every play if his first read isn't open. Every run play should be a dive and they should be glad to be paid for this awful performance. This game can get worse guys, much worse.
1. Prime time game - check
2. Division rival prime time game on NBC - double check
3. Coming off a couple of wins talking a lot - check
4. Good week of practice - you betcha
Talk is cheap. We look totally flat in all three phases. Great, you actually won a few games. And now you've earned the right to take the foot off the pedal? Pathetic, and it starts with coughlin
seriously, like Anish said - what the hell happened to the plays
when they go to shit you are dead. Your QB gets killed and jittery, your rb's can't get a yard and you get destroyed in the field position battle. Then the TO's start coming...Either we figure out how to block them in the 2nd half or this will be horrifically embarrassing.
This has been an F minus by our coaching staff. They have no answers to the Eagles and been badly out coached considering the Eagles have struggled for the most part all year. If McAdoo can't figure this out, someone needs to take the play calling away from him.
This isn't the offense we won with. Two things either happened. With the loss of Jennings WR aren't using the RB as a pass catching option OR since the Eagles stunk at pass defense we created a game plan to now go down field. It could be even both.
This is not our offensive passing concepts that had us win. Eli got the the ball out in a little more than 2 seconds. I have no clue why this Gilbride drop pass system is back. Our OL isn't good. We won because we stopped A gap and the interior long enough for Eli to get rid of the ball.
This shit we are running tonight isn't what we did in prior games.
It's the Combo of Giants bad play on O and the very good Eagles D
They ran so well these past three weeks? It's like a completely different scheme tonight.
They are running the same plays. the problem is that the Eagles prepared for us. They are taking those plays away. WRs are not open. Now that the O line shit the bed, the Giants are going to keep more eligibles in to protect Eli leaving double coverage on the 2-3 guys who are actually running routes.
I don't understand why they continue to run them? Do they not have routes for a 3 step drop? They need 5 yards and all the receivers are 15-20 yards down field.
Throw a slant
RE: RE: seriously, like Anish said - what the hell happened to the plays
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They ran so well these past three weeks? It's like a completely different scheme tonight.
They are running the same plays. the problem is that the Eagles prepared for us. They are taking those plays away. WRs are not open. Now that the O line shit the bed, the Giants are going to keep more eligibles in to protect Eli leaving double coverage on the 2-3 guys who are actually running routes.
Where are the throws to the RB? Swing passes? Slants? How about one step drop and throw to X and Z? Fucking CBs are 5-10 yards back trying not to get beat. Where are the arrow routes? Why are we not throwing sidelines and running everything in the middle of the field?
The concepts used are not similar to what we ran before. Just watch the drop back depth and seconds Eli is holding it. Eli averaged 2. something seconds because of the passing concepts associated with that.
The sideline lady said TC wants to run 3 step drops as an adjustment. So meaning we weren't running them prior. Why is the question?
doesn't mean he didn't tear anything else, hopefully thats all it is. Crushing loss. Only thing those 3 wins did is give us false hope and cost us a better draft pick
How the hell was Paterson in on that tackle 30 yards downfield?
Conclusion: Patellar tendon ruptures can occur in otherwise healthy professional football players without antecedent symptoms or predisposing factors. The most common mechanism of injury is eccentric overload. Close attention should be paid to stability examination of the knee given the not uncommon occurrence of concomitant ACL injury. Although this is usually a season-ending injury when it occurs in isolation, acute surgical repair generally produces good functional results and allows for return to play the following season. Players chosen earlier in the draft are more likely to return to play.
to my patella tendon and it was horrible and still have trouble from it. It looks like his tore away completely and while I am not a doctor of course but I can only imagine that will be very hard to fully come back from IMO. How awful
can say shit like "I dropped a pass, let me fake a knee injury" really makes me wonder why I spend any time here.
I keep reminding myself that BBI doesn't have an age requirement ... many MANY of the "posters" here are obviously kids (although I thought their parents would have tucked them in by now)
Sorry I did a bit of Googling at it said it was worse, but re-reading it they're talking about the initial pain which "makes an acl seem like a papercut"
again this season, I don't want to hear players or coaches telling us how good their week of practice was. Just every player to a man should apologize for an absolute terrible pereformance.
doesn't mean he didn't tear anything else, hopefully thats all it is. Crushing loss. Only thing those 3 wins did is give us false hope and cost us a better draft pick
Enough with the draft pick bullshit, how about enjoying a season? Good grief. If being a fan is rooting against your team in week 6 for a draft pick, fuck that.
Capable of winning or getting blown out of any game. Sad to see so many of the flaws exposed again, but this season was never going to end in Feb. My only regret is having a sick feeling all week as our loudmouths talked trash, knowing that this group has rarely been able to back it up.
to look worse than the first half but I was wrong. Victor's injury just cements the expectations for this season. they'll win enough to get a middling pick and might stay ahead of the Redskins..
Instead of 20-7 it was 20-0 and our key player was hurt.
It is painful to think of the "what ifs" of that series, but I'm not sure it would have mad that big a difference. Not only are we being out played but we're being out coached.
so your team leader who led you to a SB in 2011 gets injured and is crying in pain and your reaction is to let the Eagles go 97 yards with no resistance.
Just gutless, spineless defense. I'm embarrassed to be a Giants fan right now, just like I've been for most of the past two seasons.
Cruz (an excellent player) goes down for the season most likely. The immediate reaction here is that the season is over. If this is true... to lose one WR and we are done speaks loudly about what we have left.
It is time to give a couple of the young guys a shot. Let Parker see the field more. How about Washington? Lets remember this is how Cruz got his shot. He was basically forced into the lineup because someone (forgot who) got hurt.
This is a complete shit show to rival many shit shows we have had in the last few years. How do we come out so unprepared? unable to adjust? and show zero spirit?
This does away with all the good will generated by the previous 3 games
so your team leader who led you to a SB in 2011 gets injured and is crying in pain and your reaction is to let the Eagles go 97 yards with no resistance.
Just gutless, spineless defense. I'm embarrassed to be a Giants fan right now, just like I've been for most of the past two seasons.
It's hard to convince me that the it hasn't been the offense tonight.
But the Refs are so calling this game for the Eagles.. There were a couple non hold calls on the some of the running plays.. They just don't want to call anything on the Eagles?? wow..
so your team leader who led you to a SB in 2011 gets injured and is crying in pain and your reaction is to let the Eagles go 97 yards with no resistance.
Just gutless, spineless defense. I'm embarrassed to be a Giants fan right now, just like I've been for most of the past two seasons.
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Cruz (an excellent player) goes down for the season most likely. The immediate reaction here is that the season is over. If this is true... to lose one WR and we are done speaks loudly about what we have left.
It is time to give a couple of the young guys a shot. Let Parker see the field more. How about Washington? Lets remember this is how Cruz got his shot. He was basically forced into the lineup because someone (forgot who) got hurt.
It's more the absolute pasting we're getting which reinforces some of the underlying fears about the team (OL and horribly inconsistency) and when you add in the loss of Cruz and it's a team going nowhere.
And frankly (and it's not just tonight) the defense has been disappointing all season
competitive ... AT ALL !!!! This is a friggin' FARCE!!! I could see losing ... but not even COMPETING ... not one iota !!!! Don't get it ... just don't get it !!!!
This is a complete shit show to rival many shit shows we have had in the last few years. How do we come out so unprepared? unable to adjust? and show zero spirit?
This does away with all the good will generated by the previous 3 games
Why? What do you think he's going to say? The same shit he's been saying for most of the past 4 years.
needs more speed at LB and S. That would give our pass rush an extra few seconds to get home. That has to be the priority in the offseason. Rolle is a FA after this year, and we have no one else. Other needs, more beef on the OL, a third down back with some speed, and maybe a WR. Very sorry for Victor.
cannot believe how fast things went from bad (but with the hope that at 3-3 they bounce back vs Dallas before heading into the bye) to an unmitigated catastrophe.
Donnell awesome TD grab: ok maybe there's some life
Not so fast, 0 points on the board and one of the team's most important player out for the year and possibly his career seriously affected
Jennings was bigger than we thought. Jennings doesn't have great vision and clearly they worry about is ability to run a screen, because Philly was screaming for it today.
Also anyone who blames TC for going for it for the injury
so your team leader who led you to a SB in 2011 gets injured and is crying in pain and your reaction is to let the Eagles go 97 yards with no resistance.
Just gutless, spineless defense. I'm embarrassed to be a Giants fan right now, just like I've been for most of the past two seasons.
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watch as he hits the ground his knee bends. It sucks he got hurt but let's not act like he doesn't drop passes.
BBI and NYC are full of assholes, not all just a lot, makes me think how ironic it is when BBI'ers have a hardon for how horrible Philly fans are......just sayin.
Something to ponder...
Does BBI simply attract assholes or does it create them?
would not have made any difference. We couldn't block for Barry Sanders tonight. As I said, we've beaten bad teams, and lost to good teams. I think we're an 8-8 team.
Giant defenders wait for the offensive player to come to them to make a tackle....Eagle defenders go towards the runner, take away his momentum, and there are no yards after the initial contact....
held. He tackled the guy. Only idiots blame Beatty for Cruz's injury, but he held.
Beatty pancaked him. He did 10% of what the Eagles have been doing to JPP and drew a flag. These fucking refs are doing a worse job than the Giants are tonight.
held. He tackled the guy. Only idiots blame Beatty for Cruz's injury, but he held.
Beatty pancaked him. He did 10% of what the Eagles have been doing to JPP and drew a flag. These fucking refs are doing a worse job than the Giants are tonight.
he has to be given the opportunity to regain possession of the ball before it hits the ground. The refs could have called fair catch interference on that, but I'm not surprised that they didn't in that situation.
that should have been a 15 yard penalty, you can't touch him at all until ball hits ground
The ball was free. There is no penalty
It doesn't matter. When you signal a fair catch, even if you bobble it, you can not be touched and the ball can not be touched until it hits the ground. That's the rule
Has never been a good defense, you judge a defense when they need a stop, and this team has let teams go downfield in big spots over and over again, they are lead by PUNK JPP, and that alone is bad. They are a bunch of quitters the moment they get punched in the face they quit, and we have seen this before. Losing is one thing, but this is quite another. maybe the Giant fans can all Francessa to tell him how dumb he is to question the team after the 3 game winning streak. LOL! Wow, is this team far from being a true contender.
How do up people not know that Cruz's knee wasn't s ticking time bomb. If it didn't happen on that play, maybe the next. Life is life. Our coach went for it, the refs called it on Beatty, and Cruz got hurt. That's life, nobody is to blame
We should move Beckham to the slot and then activate Washington.
So that is what you would do? Move a guy who has barely practiced into the most important and most difficult position (for a WR) on the field? I think they will move one of the other guys who has been practicing the slot for a while.
The OLine knows they're going up against a shit defense, right?
Yup!! Just terrible playcalling.. McAdoo is shit right now.. the lack of experience is killing the Giants.. No excuses for that call when u need 10 yards??
But this is the kind of game that give every other team the blueprint, gives us very sadly an idea of how badly we were outcoached. In 1 game our season is over, and we have seen this before, so lets not pretend that it is not true.
instead of acting like he's Peyton. The offense would probably be more efficient.
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
Yeah, who does he think he is, with all these bullshit calls and setting the protection. It's almost as if he thinks he's some kind of QB or something.
this is not preseason you fucking pussies....if he gets hurt he gets hurt, no way do i take my QB out when there is even the slightest of chances to come back, no matter what.
I must missed it and so did the guys wearing blue helmets. Well, I did hear one screaming tonight like a little girl, and that's Cruz. Holy shit you are an embarrassment to football and everyone that has played. Can I not be a Giants fan anymore? Losers can't even score 0 points.
instead of acting like he's Peyton. The offense would probably be more efficient.
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
Yeah, who does he think he is, with all these bullshit calls and setting the protection. It's almost as if he thinks he's some kind of QB or something.
Yeah he's done a damn good job of setting protections tonight
They were pitiful tonight.....I mean extremely inconsistent. If you're going to call holding on one team, then you should call it on both. Obviously there's lots of holding on both sides.
I must missed it and so did the guys wearing blue helmets. Well, I did hear one screaming tonight like a little girl, and that's Cruz. Holy shit you are an embarrassment to football and everyone that has played. Can I not be a Giants fan anymore? Losers can't even score 0 points.
I must missed it and so did the guys wearing blue helmets. Well, I did hear one screaming tonight like a little girl, and that's Cruz. Holy shit you are an embarrassment to football and everyone that has played. Can I not be a Giants fan anymore? Losers can't even score 0 points.
Dont you and your skell friends have a shithole town to finish burning to the ground?
Burn the game film. If this happens again I.E Atlanta and Baltimore at the end of the 2012 season, then it's going to be a long season.
But I have a feeling the G-Men will be ready for Dallas next week.
l
Not so sure. This was an emotional drain and an utter embarrassment. Dallas hates the Giants more then anybody and will be licking their chops to get at us.
I just see Murray running for 200 yards against us!
The fucking leave. Your stupidity was not missed during your offseason hiatus.
Dep. Still the biggest dipshit around here. Wasn't even calling you out. Hiatus? No. I just don't sit on a message board all day like you.
Once a bitch, always a bitch. Got nothing intelligent to say but shit on others. Go fuck yourself. I am sure you are as pathetic as guys like rflairr, bossman, and others fucktards of this board.
Eli is only responsible for wins not losses. It is everybody else fault.
What specifically is Eli responsible for tonight? Failure to block or tackle?
He was responsible for not moving around the damn pocket, not running out of trouble or just standing there like stone. Shit even his older brother looked to move around to evade pressure. Eli is not stuck to the ground unless he is rolling out on a designed play.
against divisional foes and to be shutout?! Really?! Either we got outclassed or we were unprepared. This team hasn't looked like this since last year.
and nobody has yet to figure out why our teams come out flat...no matter the roster. I don't think our team has come out this amp'd up like Philly tonight...ever. The closest is maybe Washington this year.
the smoke and mirrors that the Giants OL had used to look good the last few weeks. It's on film now so there will be no secrets when they face the Cowboys next week.
Eli is only responsible for wins not losses. It is everybody else fault.
What specifically is Eli responsible for tonight? Failure to block or tackle?
He was responsible for not moving around the damn pocket, not running out of trouble or just standing there like stone. Shit even his older brother looked to move around to evade pressure. Eli is not stuck to the ground unless he is rolling out on a designed play.
Even if that were accurate, he's had zero time for anything. To point to that as even the smallest part of the offensive ineptitude, is just wanting to hate a player you hate.
but what happen to any scrambling like he used to do. That 3rd and 2 sums up Eli either no longer willing to run or unable to run effectively for positive yards.
Eli is only responsible for wins not losses. It is everybody else fault.
What specifically is Eli responsible for tonight? Failure to block or tackle?
He was responsible for not moving around the damn pocket, not running out of trouble or just standing there like stone. Shit even his older brother looked to move around to evade pressure. Eli is not stuck to the ground unless he is rolling out on a designed play.
Even if that were accurate, he's had zero time for anything. To point to that as even the smallest part of the offensive ineptitude, is just wanting to hate a player you hate.
WTF is wrong with you?????? A player I hate? Because I'm critical of Eli's inability to scramble in these games now. Go F yourself.
u must be kidding? U don't recall the Redskins leading by 30, kicking a field goal? to score over 70? lol. How about Title bleading on the field on his kneels? Losing to the 9ers when they had a big lead, and Shockey dropped the ball. The vai sikahema game? Oh, and Joe Picarcik handing off instead of taking a knee? Herman Edwards ran in the fumble to win. There have been a few. :)
one team look so overpowering and the other team look like it's playing in slow motion?
The guys in the black shirts all come off the line together and the guys in the white shirts and blue hats still in their stances.
When the white shirts are on offense, the guy in the black shirt owns the guy in the white shirt in the middle of the line (center). Four guys in black shirts all shoot the gaps between the five guys in white shirts, who all turn around and yell "Look out!"
When the white shirts are on defense, the guys in the black shirts push them around like they're on rollers.
And the refs don't call penalties on the guys in the black shirts.
Perhaps the offensive players in the white shirts will give their game checks to the punter - who worked overtime.
Who dipped OB's hands in concrete?
Hope you recover quickly and completely, Victor Cruz.
Carolina last year....Baltimore, Cincinnati, Atlanta 2 years ago, at New Orleans 3years ago non-competitive bullshit, not prepared to play, embarrassing efforts far too frequent, this must be addressed. It IS NOT just tonight
Double that. None of them scare me. So ready for this game tonight. Hurry the fuck up clock!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKcIhLV5SNI&feature=share - ( New Window )
yay, pub for my youtube post :)
its my go to 2X a year.
Let me know when you're ready to start another troll thread and delete when it seems like you're wrong.
YEAH BABY!!!!
GO GiantS!!!!!!!!!
Go Giants!
Lets GO!!!
Maybe the law of averages is now in your favor!
Will be very difficult challenge tonight.
This guy gets it.
These guys suck
Dallas goes into Seattle and wins?! Crap they have shown up this year.
One game at a time, but damn next week will be tough!!!
These guys suck
It's awful. It's like listening to two really old men droning on and on.
Lets go GIANTS!
Nice
GO GIANTS!
replicate i hope.
And Demps was awful.
disgusting.
no push. No tackling slow and just vaginalistic
Those Eagle uniforms look terrible
maybe they have pink jocks...
there is pink in their vaginas.
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Wow, it does not look like a single Eagle player is wearing pink (at least on offense). At least some of the Giants players are wearing pink shoes. They took the blackout thing a little too seriously. I'd be surprised if the league lets them get away with it.
maybe they have pink jocks...
I wouldn't touch one of those jocks with a 20' pole let alone buy it for charity.
Why make a shitty defense look better than it is? Then you give it right back to them?
Looked like it.
giants have the most 4 n outs of any team ever
Agreed ! How many times have we seen a turnover in that situation?
Not too upset over the first possession... We completed a pass. Williams set the tone for a tough night between the tackles.
Eli could have ran a yard for the 1st?!
and Foles is a below average Qb...Come ON
Eli, that was a bad mistake.
Don't challenge it, Coughlin. Did you take your stupid pills or something? He was down.
on a sidenote, the fucking red sea parted on that run...if we cant slow the run, its gonna be a long nite.
Now, a wasted challenge by TC. Lets compound bad play by the defense with bad coaching decisions too.
He was getting his ass kicked on the first drive. If that's the level of play he can give right now then he shouldn't be activated
Maybe he just wants the time out to regroup anyway.
fuuuuk.
and no love on the fumble. Why challenge that?
the fuck was he looking at?
Please. U don't waste a challenge
That wasn't from the booth it was to quick
Some days, it feels like we lead the league in unfinished sacks.
Only play well when not cocky.
nice blitz dickheads
I waited all week for this pussy garbage?
Demps should be benched. Like Brown was a few weeks ago.
Simple...
Hill is a stoner who puts himself before his team
We had a young kid (WTF is his name Cody something?) who is on IR
Stevie Brown is getting burned too
Well of course, look at the loud mouth unprepared pathetic excuse of "men" they're playing. Fucking twat ass bullshit.
It's only the 6th game but this game may be our season. They need to wake the fuck up
Let's see how they respond.
He was all over Ertz. Just a great throw/catch.
Pretty sad effort in a huge game so far. Players and coaches IMO
Let's move on to dominating the actual game now.
Wasn't burned. It was great coverage but just a tremendous catch!
Looks like the same defense we have had for MOST of our games over the past two seasons. We were fortunate enough to play a lot better the past few games. I guess we got bad Fewell today
Although it did look like DRC was out muscled
Whose dupe are you?
BBI doesn't have an age limit
lmao
Really they have trailed 3 of 5 games at half
and you are?
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like the mother from 7th heaven
Whose dupe are you?
kepler20. I mean I can't be wrong, right? If that bitch gets to cunt off and be an obvious troll. Why not ARNOLD?
wtf
it's time for your bullshit routine again?
STFU with the Cowher bullshit already. As if that would make a difference here.
D line has to nut up they are getting blown up in the run game, similar to last week early but McCoy is the best in the league so it is larger chunks.
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Ring ring ring..
it's time for your bullshit routine again?
Yes Peter, it is..
He played coverage and Ertz beat DRC for a touchdown.
ODB nigga!
He didn't get beat, he had right coverage. Needed perfect throw to beat him and that is the one consistent throw Foles can make. U need a guy over the top to beat that play if u want to stop even a perfect throw.
come to Philly get gashed with a terribly overrated defense.
can't wait for Philly to try and tee off on Eli now.
spotting them 10 points before waking up is gross.
hate these night games make me wait all effing day to watch a shitathon. thanks
I haven't seen a worse beating since well.... ya know!
Still plenty of time in this game but they need to get it turned around quick
youre coming out of this TO and NOT getting a 20 yard completion. Just run it and punt it and hope better next time.
Because Cole was up his ass quickly?
2) fuck this offense
3) fuck this offense and defense for making the Eagle shithead crowd get loud
4) seattle was useless today...
lol. Here we go. Evertything back to Eli;s fault. No he couldnt do anythign there schmuck. He is in the pocket plus by the time he plated his foot, the guy was right in his face.
How on Earth was he going to throw that away in time?
go turn on family guy then.
Anyone who lives up in the Northern NJ area be sure to flip off every member of the defense and DEMAND their check be donated to charity!
what a fucking joke
OL is getting their asses kicked by a shitty DL.
Hearing that shit?
Can the QB wake up. Who do you think they were laughing at
GO TO FUCKING HELL YOU NON SUPER BOWL WINNING PIECE OF DOGSHIT!!!!!!!!!
refs screwed up
I said this before, you can't go by ratings and statistics in divisional games on the road.
This is not going well at all and next week will just kick us in the nuts skme more!
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Can the QB wake up. Who do you think they were laughing at
You are a fucktard to the fullest.
Nut up boys. Nut the fuck up.
nice snap
Hahhhhh
He is an obvious troll, but it's not like the non trolls in this thread are any better.
This thread is a bigger disaster than the game so far.
lol run play, very creative !
Bench Jerry while your at it.
thanks for those offensive calls leaving Pugh on a island to suck on
Very alarming the way this team has played for well over a year now when they play even a decent squad
they look so unprepared and unsettled. really disgusting display thus far.
No composure at all!!!!!
they look so unprepared and unsettled. really disgusting display thus far.
+1
Yeah, not like Philly almost blew a 27 pt lead to the Rams.
They've always sucked.
It's not an issue with Coughlin's teams, it's an issue with this group of players. His teams for nearly two decades were always competitive even in most losses
1 play action. I mean Jesus christ
And a nice stop!
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Far too many times. Coughlins teams just don't turn up far too often.
It's not an issue with Coughlin's teams, it's an issue with this group of players. His teams for nearly two decades were always competitive even in most losses
We turned over around 23 players. At some point the coaching needs come into question for these flat games.
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Far too many times. Coughlins teams just don't turn up far too often.
It's not an issue with Coughlin's teams, it's an issue with this group of players. His teams for nearly two decades were always competitive even in most losses
Not just this group of players - this has happened frequently since 2009
Offense needs to get a foothold here.
when u are sucking asshole. No matter who then give some help... Pugh should not be getting shat on that bad. But for whatever reason maybe he left his nuts at home, I dunno. He needs some help
Ut Oh. Giants getting MAD
This game is unfolding the way I thought it would.
"It's not an issue with Coughlin's teams, it's an issue with this group of players. His teams for nearly two decades were always competitive even in most losses"
Mook, I beg to differ...I was in Cincinnati & Baltimore 2 years ago, and Carolina last year...those were just some of the shit shows in recent history. I remember a game in New Orleans & Atlanta a few years ago, and there were more.....sometimes this team is embarrassing
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Far too many times. Coughlins teams just don't turn up far too often.
It's not an issue with Coughlin's teams, it's an issue with this group of players. His teams for nearly two decades were always competitive even in most losses
Not just this group of players - this has happened frequently since 2009
+ 100000
Oline MUST protect him or we lose!!!! 4 sacks already, I mean really!
Now we open up the game ! lol
that's a winning attitude there.
Breath in.....Breath out......Williams starts to stomp them out!
Press w those play calls. Is anyone on that team ready this week?
To who? You would be the first cunt to bitch if he throw an INT in that situation.
+1
Horrendous
fuck you pugh... Sucking shit. Eli knew ur man was going to get him, so had to attempt to take off instead of throw for 1st down
badadbadbadbadbadbad
Honestly put a training cone in for Pugh. He's getting beaten on every play.
Not remotely true.
The D is playing better...
They do. We just suck more.
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THROW THE BALL !!!
To who? You would be the first cunt to bitch if he throw an INT in that situation.
No Dep, I want him to get rid of the ball. Throw it out of bounds. I dont want him taking hits. I did not mean he should throw it into coverage
One team prepared, the other isnt.
We are going to get routed. The Giants have no answer.
Yeah, 1-800-CLUELESS.
And they have more speed than we do.
what a fucking joke.
0 wr quick outs n bubble screens.
let McCoy run rampant?
pretend the racist is Jerry rice.
don't cover tight ends.
check
check
check
go the fuck home you guys are abysmally pathetic
You suck ! haha
Go play in traffic, you are fucking embarrassment.
so much for that.
Ill take the blame for this guys. Sorry.
And they have more speed than we do.
so does every team then have more speed? Only we have these problems vs Philly other teams do fine. We are just abysmal
Pretty much. Just haven't turned up, the Eagles will run up a huge score. Frankly mind boggling how poor we've been. We're not coming back into this while we can't block a lick.
I would be happy if he get a burst of speed from somewhere. Because every motion of his is in slow motion. Even handing off the ball the Defense is already alert because he takes so long to do it.
He was laughing his ass off that that last play worked
We lost to Detroit and Arizona, two decent teams. We beat Houston, Washington, and Atlanta, three bad teams. Now Philly is trouncing us.
The theme of this season may be that we can beat the bad teams, but not anyone good. That makes us an 8-8 team.
This staff has come up big against good teams plenty of times.
It's the group of players currently constructed. Tom Coughlin didn't forget how to coach. They lack talent in many critical areas.
Wake me up in the morning and let me know the final score.
It might be a great scheme, but this game has nothing to do with that. They're getting physically smashed
Thurmond's not a safety.
All week long I was confident and then today I played the game in my mind and I swear I fucking knew our OL would fail tonight. I fucking knew it.
Agreed. He looks like a smug asshole rite now.
Would love to see the Giants stick it in his face but that looks like it mite not happen.
It's as though people don't learn ... when an OL doesn't block, there isn't a QB in the world who can do anything.
And defensively stop sitting on our heals. Playing reactive football instead of aggressive football doesn't win games
8-8 is the last thing I want to be this year. It's no mans land in the NFL, we could really use a high draft pick to help turn this roster around
Fuck the nfl and it's cosmic voodoo weird karma cock in ass bullshit
In all fairness to Pugh, Eli has drifted into the pass rush twice.
on D, Philly has been running plays with breakneck speed.
on O, Eli sacked 5 times and blocking on the line has been terrible.
2013 vintage performance. All that's missing is are the turnovers and they're probably on the way.
ugh
A total shitshow
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is fucking bad ass. Lol It really is fun to watch. This game is about done.
It might be a great scheme, but this game has nothing to do with that. They're getting physically smashed
Yeah due to scheme. Their guys are beating our coverage and badly. Mismatches and misdirection is key in that scheme. Even their running plays are providing them with gaping holes. Its a damn good scheme.
In all fairness to Pugh, Eli has drifted into the pass rush twice.
I concur exactly
Reese please draft some good linebackers!
And defensively stop sitting on our heals. Playing reactive football instead of aggressive football doesn't win games
EXACTLY.
murphys law game.
The only word I collected to describe my thoughts on his signing is bewildered. He's just a bad football player, return "ability" be damned, and I can't believe they actively pursued him.
Once again, GodDAMN you Will Hill, you stupid, stupid asshole...
But I certainly hate the smirking Chip Kelly.
We can't block a piece of dried shit right now.
Shut the fuck up/ That is called playing football
This game is done.
Get ready for 24-0 boys.
thanks 27
Kiwanuka saves a touchdown
This same team barely beat the Redskins 37-34. So no, they aren't as good as we're making them look.
When it gets to 24-0, we're really going to know what this team is made up.
They look to be one step quicker on offense and defense!
I don't know what adjustment has to be made but they better do something difference.
Get ready for 24-0 boys.
you root for the same baseball team that these piece of shit fans root for. Fuck the Eagles and their fans. Ugh what an awful game thus far.
You like that? Really? It would have only been 3rd and 5. If you are settling for moral victories then I guess you have given up on this game already.
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should be ejected for that shit. Grow the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up/ That is called playing football
Go fuck yoursefl, that dumb ass penalty just basically ended a fucking drive. Oh yeah, lets cheap shot somebody while they are on the ground?!
THATS FOOTBALL BABY!!!! Too bad he cant fuckign hit someone when it counts.
now i am here
so comeback starts now
You guys have a very short memory. They talked shit in every game leading up to XLII and XLVI.
Eagles are flat out killing us. The OL isn't good to use 5 and 7 drops. Run the same shit we ran in the past games. 1 step and throw it X hot or Z hot. Get rid of the ball. Get the completion percentage up.
24-0 at half might be the best we can do.
oh how do I hope we got a mediocre at best 8-8... Fuck yeah for another middling 1st rounder.
awesome!!!!!!!!!
And we haven't even turned the ball over yet.
I don't know if they're getting outcoached. Clearly, they're being outplayed. Execution is not there.
Getting dominated at the LOS. Hopefull Eli can pull off another memorable comeback.
He is an obvious troll, but it's not like the non trolls in this thread are any better.
This thread is a bigger disaster than the game so far.
It's really pretty incredible. But it should get better pretty soon. It's 9:30 and most have bedtimes that should at least make the 2nd half on the thread at least tolerable
come on JPP!
I thought you were going to bed?
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and crew getting out coached badly.
I don't know if they're getting outcoached. Clearly, they're being outplayed. Execution is not there.
We're getting outmaneuvered in every aspect.
which is why Eli is 6-3 in Philadelphia.
And we haven't even turned the ball over yet.
You just jinxed them lol. Just wait
come on JPP!
Looked pretty good against Washington
Eagles are flat out killing us. The OL isn't good to use 5 and 7 drops. Run the same shit we ran in the past games. 1 step and throw it X hot or Z hot. Get rid of the ball. Get the completion percentage up.
Eli is 6/7 and the one incomplete was a screen to Hillis that got blown up because the OL is really that bad tonight.
Completion percentage is not the problem and, honestly, the plays aren't taking anywhere near as long to develop as some are making it sound in this thread.
there's a gleam men....get the gleam.
"I have no explanation for it."
I fucking know right!!!!! Every fucking time that cheap motherfucker, never called. Jpp barely not even. Boop neutral zone.
fuckin ridiculous
The camera was about 15 yards farther down field. So, your view on TV was deceiving
We look totally unprepared and out muscled!
Right, that is the difference in this game. If the calls went our way, we would be right in this thing.
looked like there was a missed face mask by the EAgles there on a Giants DL.
Just need the O to drive for a TD and we're back in this game.
Yet.
But then I remember how we've played. I don't see us putting a drive together. We might score on a bomb because despite everything the Eagles are pretty poor defensively but drives require proper execution. We don't look capable of that tonight.
If I hit all the numbers in the mega millions I win.
You're just putting us in 3rd and longs.
and a deflected punt
Going three and out is a bad way of going at it.
yeah, by talking trash
don't stress to get a play in there just 2ns and long lets run a doom sweep...
no play action nothing.
o 3rd and long, alright lets pass against them now.
ok coach. Yes please may I have another
And a blocked punt too boot. LOL
LITERALLY zero good plays in a half of football. in this teams biggest game in > 2 years.
Hpefully it isn't too late efor some adjustments at the half. Gotta throw their rush off with some quick gainers. Forget the rush
Dallas might be a 10 point favorite.
Romo and Wilson earlier, they move around
That's what helped us destroy the Skins. Short plays boom boom boom.
They're laughing at us....
We are their bitch
I am wondering too. Where did our offense go from past few weeks? What'sthis bullshit of dropping bback and taking time? Get rid of the ball quicker. Only thing I can think of is we don't trust Williams catching the ball so we eliminated those concepts and added more or deeper drop back passing concepts.
and a deflected punt
Do you really think thats what he was doing?
Their inability to adjust to the Eagles constant pressure up the middle is frustrating. Not sure if it's simply a matter of the OL being physically outplayed and there's nothing the coaches can do, but you'd expect more shorter routes/passing to try to offset that heat. Instead, we keep running right into it.
If they have 8 men in box, why not spread it out and pass to set up the run? McAdoo getting schooled tonight.
Can we at least make it competitive in 2nd half?
Losers
Romo and Wilson earlier, they move around
He is stepping up into a non existent pocket. He's not a statue.
:::heads to bed:::
We've blitzed, our linebackers just have timed them terribly and gotten no where
They are playing not to lose.... Now playing passive because McCoy ran..... And passive because we got sacked partly because we are running 5 step.
Horrible hprrible play calling even with the bad line
And we kiss Jennings the check downs would be open and Williams is not savvy in this environment
Romo and Wilson earlier, they move around
Elis a statue? I see him constantly on the run. Its people like you who make BBI more and more unbearable to read. Ya, Eli's the problem....
We are what our record says, an average team. Philly is just kicking our ass. Why can't we ever do this to them?
Even with vast improvements at the half, there's no coming back from this...the game was over on the first 10 minutes
I guess they just match up very well against us.
I don't believe we are as bad as this
cooper wide open
they probably really just like rooting for Riley Cooper
LPG is the one fucking guy I'd suggest we leave there tonight. Fuck that asshole.
run that backkkk
this OL should fucking walk home
It's that simple
Which the offense promptly goes 5 yards backwards with.
I just want to see some fight.
It's how horrifying how unprepared we look thus far, unfortunately this wasn't unexpected...
is he new.???
this OL is fucking terrible
says who? they'll call it against NY all night.
sickening. they really should make the OL walk the fuck home
Hey, at least we have our health.
is he new.???
I believe he refereed the Super Bowl last season, believe it or not.
it's a jail break on every snap.
This might be the worst half I have ever seen
but I do have off, so I'm getting drunk.
We're always third and forever from our own ten.
I had a feeling their D wouldn't focus on the flats. Now they are just taking away the middle areas and not giving shit about the flats.
Now if we could run a bubble screen that would help that area. But just having no threat there is not helping at all.
complete fucking joke.
No dude.. he was open after Eli was on the ground
It looked like donnell and Cruz were open on that play
Took him time to get open.
Our guys aren't getting open.
Fucking egg.
You're dreaming. Cruz was wide open AFTER Manning was already on the ground ... he had zero separation before that
Finally moves JPP to left side.
every drive its 3rd and a mile. some have 2nd and a mile.
we even had a 1st and 25.
wtf?
Please pack it in Al.
less then 100 total yards, ugh
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But against us, they get a coverage sack?
It looked like donnell and Cruz were open on that play
Apparently not enough. Oh vey, strict pocket passers are good but how I wouldn't mind for a scrambling qb at some point in some of these games. Stuff that they do get taken for granted or belittled. They can keep drives alive.
It's not over
They're too busy putting their fingers up each others asses
Well, for once you're right - we can't play any fucking worse.
every drive its 3rd and a mile. some have 2nd and a mile.
we even had a 1st and 25.
wtf?
I think they mentioned the average 3rd down yardage has been 15
And he needs to take Collinsworth!
oh, stop it
Yeah, that didn't work out for Tim Brown or anything.
We've not turned the ball over, so yes we can play worse.
Unless we come up with an answer for the blocking issue, we're going to continue to get our asses kicked.
Probably, but this team, like a lot of Coughlin teams, fails to show up for games, at times......there is no rhyme or reason for it.....we see it happen time and time again....and this after a 3 game winning streak....
Has to take something like the twilight zone or something..because they don't have any answers to turn it around. Just come away healthy and learn their lessons for trying to improve as the year goes on.
least its not 40 0
Hmmm... Let's see ... the OL isn't blocking anyone ... and you're choice would be a scrambling QB instead of a good OL?
That makes a lot of sense.
We don't have the time. It's a blocking issue. Jerry and Pugh are getting annihilated instantly on every play and Walton doesn't look like he's seen an A gap blitz before. There's no time to take a shot.
Really? You watching the same game as me? We have 0 offense tonight. If we can't move the ball consistently we cannot win this. They continue to load up the line and bring pressure play after play. We can't even get a play off.
I guess I am staying off the internet for the next week or so
And these blowouts always come on the road. wtf happened to the road warriors? Road kill is more like it...
Probably, but this team, like a lot of Coughlin teams, fails to show up for games, at times......there is no rhyme or reason for it.....we see it happen time and time again....and this after a 3 game winning streak....
I think the rhyme and reason to this is frankly the oline has just came to earth with a bang. Pugh looks physically unable to match up with the speed of the Philly rushers. Add in a rookie rb who can't execute half the offense and is shaky in protection, and a frankly mindboggling game plan of running on every 1st and 2nd down.
And it's snowballed from there.
Agreed. The interceptions, fumbles and blocked punts are only a few tiny mistakes away. Eli should just throw the ball away every play if his first read isn't open. Every run play should be a dive and they should be glad to be paid for this awful performance. This game can get worse guys, much worse.
I guess I am staying off the internet for the next week or so
too cocky with themselves
2. Division rival prime time game on NBC - double check
3. Coming off a couple of wins talking a lot - check
4. Good week of practice - you betcha
You would think the Giants would have been better prepared to start with max protect against the blitz.
On defense, I have no idea what the fuck the game plan is.
Hopefully adjustments are made at the half.
He's the Head Coach, it's all his fault. Gets all the credit when they win and all the blame when we lose. Part of the job.
Dallas showed that they are for real. We'll beat a few fodders and limp to an 8-8, 7-9 record.
We need OL and LB's, but I'm sure Reese will just get more WR and DL's.
Jennings is a big miss. With Williams there's no option in the flat.
This is not our offensive passing concepts that had us win. Eli got the the ball out in a little more than 2 seconds. I have no clue why this Gilbride drop pass system is back. Our OL isn't good. We won because we stopped A gap and the interior long enough for Eli to get rid of the ball.
This shit we are running tonight isn't what we did in prior games.
I apologize in advance ... but you're a fucking idiot.
Not running two yards with no one in front of you to keep a drive alive was pathetic. OL, QB, RB, DL, LB, CB, P all look like crap tonight.
He is if the blocking is there!
The problem is that the Eagles don't actually have a very good defense. Matter of fact, they have a downright bad defense.
Kirk Cousins dominated this defense. Austin fucking Davis threw all over this defense.
What's he going to do... Go out and block for the OL himself?!,
A score and a stop changes the game completely. This game is still winnable.
They are running the same plays. the problem is that the Eagles prepared for us. They are taking those plays away. WRs are not open. Now that the O line shit the bed, the Giants are going to keep more eligibles in to protect Eli leaving double coverage on the 2-3 guys who are actually running routes.
This was the cover of the Daily News this week
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he is not fast enough to get around the edge or off tackle.
He is if the blocking is there!
No he isn't fast enough and he keep taking cuts back inside when something opens on the outside corner
Shut up.
Throw a slant
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They ran so well these past three weeks? It's like a completely different scheme tonight.
They are running the same plays. the problem is that the Eagles prepared for us. They are taking those plays away. WRs are not open. Now that the O line shit the bed, the Giants are going to keep more eligibles in to protect Eli leaving double coverage on the 2-3 guys who are actually running routes.
Read what Anish said - they're not the same plays
yup they majorly digressed tonight. A lot new question marks
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Eli moves like an old lady. Sure the line stinks, but he can't get out of his shadow.
I apologize in advance ... but you're a fucking idiot.
Didn't you give up last week? What are you doing here? Why are you watching this game? Why are you posting here?
We need 6 yards and everybody goes 15 down the field?
Yea... it is..
The whole team just collectively shit the bed.
Still need a couple of positive plays.
Yes it is...see?
If you cannot field a consistently comptitive team, people need to get fired
The concepts used are not similar to what we ran before. Just watch the drop back depth and seconds Eli is holding it. Eli averaged 2. something seconds because of the passing concepts associated with that.
The sideline lady said TC wants to run 3 step drops as an adjustment. So meaning we weren't running them prior. Why is the question?
Fuck you OL. Ducking worthless. Another 3rd and 15.
Beckham is really fucking good.
They fucking the Giants at every step.
and no PA against Jenkins????!!!!
great combo
fuckin beatty offensive holding
Obvious fades are obvious.
Go away asshole
His acl went when he jumped, I think you can forgive him.
And it blows he is going to be out for the year. But he is the most overrated WR I have ever fuckign seen. Never should have given him his contract.
sucks
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Go away asshole
It's a non contact on a jump. It's an acl.
Obvious fades are obvious.
Who cares that it was obvious? It was obvious and right on the money. It was a drop not a strategic mistake.
Stupid fucks
harsh bro
Fuck you asshole!!! God I hate some Giants fans
He dropped the ball because of pain, fucksticks!
Youre an asshole. Yea, dont worry about your knee pain!! Catch the ball!! Go run into traffic
:(
This is the worst night ever.
Seriously. If it was bad before...
Cruz blows knee out just as he woukd nake catch.
horrible night for Giant football
[quote] a fucking abortion of a season gets worse.. [/quote
Abortion of a season? Seriously? You're an idiot.
Hey Giants fans: Victor Cruz is over. Dance to that.
Everything he is, drops or TD's, he LOVES this team. This is sad to see.
You are an asshole. Seriously. WTF is wrong with you? You can see that his knee blew out before the ball even touched his hands.
Suck it, asshole
eli doesnt have 2 seconds and foles can jack off every time he drops back
The Cruz injury never happens
This place is insufferable when the team loses.
It's Philly, they'll probably give him the keys to the city.
The defense looks completely deflated. I have little desire to watch any more of this game.
You're a fucking idiot. The worst. Don't ever post here again.
You and Carl in CT are trash. Garbage.
*facepalm*
And not one fucking flag. It's infuriating. They were basically hugging JPP, but the second Beatty puts a guy on the floor we draw a flag.
Damn.
Agreed.
No
It's the front ligament
Answered my question before I asked it. Thanks.
On *this* drive?
http://ajs.sagepub.com/content/39/11/2436 - ( New Window )
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No
It's the front ligament
Thanks.
Agree.
Offense F -
Defense F
I keep reminding myself that BBI doesn't have an age requirement ... many MANY of the "posters" here are obviously kids (although I thought their parents would have tucked them in by now)
This is supposed to be an escape, not a distraction.
This sucks.
Sorry I did a bit of Googling at it said it was worse, but re-reading it they're talking about the initial pain which "makes an acl seem like a papercut"
Enough with the draft pick bullshit, how about enjoying a season? Good grief. If being a fan is rooting against your team in week 6 for a draft pick, fuck that.
Again. Go suck it.
What a fucking nightmare in all phases!!!
No, you're getting exactly what you want. You're pathetic.
We need to stick together
It is painful to think of the "what ifs" of that series, but I'm not sure it would have mad that big a difference. Not only are we being out played but we're being out coached.
Just gutless, spineless defense. I'm embarrassed to be a Giants fan right now, just like I've been for most of the past two seasons.
It is time to give a couple of the young guys a shot. Let Parker see the field more. How about Washington? Lets remember this is how Cruz got his shot. He was basically forced into the lineup because someone (forgot who) got hurt.
Hope he makes it out of there
This does away with all the good will generated by the previous 3 games
Just gutless, spineless defense. I'm embarrassed to be a Giants fan right now, just like I've been for most of the past two seasons.
It's hard to convince me that the it hasn't been the offense tonight.
Hope he makes it out of there
Fuck him.
He was about to catch the TD, for that to happen was awful.
Plus the pain he was in and the sobbing, damn what sn emotional turn around.
Cruz is such a likeabke Giant too, bleeds blue and has made some of thr best plays I have seen as a fan.
Just brutal, what a crap night of football.
so cruz has a freak injury the right call was made
Just gutless, spineless defense. I'm embarrassed to be a Giants fan right now, just like I've been for most of the past two seasons.
you should probably go fuck yourself i imagine?
It is time to give a couple of the young guys a shot. Let Parker see the field more. How about Washington? Lets remember this is how Cruz got his shot. He was basically forced into the lineup because someone (forgot who) got hurt.
It's more the absolute pasting we're getting which reinforces some of the underlying fears about the team (OL and horribly inconsistency) and when you add in the loss of Cruz and it's a team going nowhere.
And frankly (and it's not just tonight) the defense has been disappointing all season
Something to ponder...
Does BBI simply attract assholes or does it create them?
This does away with all the good will generated by the previous 3 games
Why? What do you think he's going to say? The same shit he's been saying for most of the past 4 years.
Donnell awesome TD grab: ok maybe there's some life
Not so fast, 0 points on the board and one of the team's most important player out for the year and possibly his career seriously affected
I feel fucking sick. This is a nightmare
Blame him for not having his team show up for the umpteenth time, don't blame him for playing football
Just gutless, spineless defense. I'm embarrassed to be a Giants fan right now, just like I've been for most of the past two seasons.
You could always go root for the Cowboys
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watch as he hits the ground his knee bends. It sucks he got hurt but let's not act like he doesn't drop passes.
BBI and NYC are full of assholes, not all just a lot, makes me think how ironic it is when BBI'ers have a hardon for how horrible Philly fans are......just sayin.
Something to ponder...
Does BBI simply attract assholes or does it create them?
With Foles at QB I don't think we have to worry about them winning a Super Bowl. He's the definition of mediocre
Because it's Coughlin's offense
This team hasn't won a truly big game in a long time. And in most of these Big games we have been destroyed.
He'll probably be here for the rest of his life.
He's getting creamed and the collective breath of the Gmen was taken away w VC injury
So terribly upsetting
I find I often agree with you, but this time your post made me chuckle ... you really think the Giants have 10 good players? lol
I hope Beatty sleeps well tonight. He doesn't hold, and Cruz plays next week.
When do pitchers and catchers report?
Are you fucking kidding me?
I hope Beatty sleeps well tonight. He doesn't hold, and Cruz plays next week.
When do pitchers and catchers report?
What fucking garbage to blame it on Will Beatty. A freak fucking thing and its his fault because of a penalty prior. Unreal.
Giant defenders wait for the offensive player to come to them to make a tackle....Eagle defenders go towards the runner, take away his momentum, and there are no yards after the initial contact....
Agree. It was a crappy call.
He's getting creamed and the collective breath of the Gmen was taken away w VC injury
So terribly upsetting
I would be shocked. Coughlin does not give up.
No he didn't. He drove him to the ground.
Beatty pancaked him. He did 10% of what the Eagles have been doing to JPP and drew a flag. These fucking refs are doing a worse job than the Giants are tonight.
BEcause its not and you are blind. He lost the ball BEFORE he was touched.
I said the same thing. And it was obvious
Not that it really matters in this game anyway.
I hope Beatty sleeps well tonight. He doesn't hold, and Cruz plays next week.
When do pitchers and catchers report?
That's really stupid. He got hurt on a perfect play. Beatty has nothing to do with Cruz being hurt.
I think you can if its a muff.
Beckham is looking very ordinary in his second game....
The ball was free. There is no penalty
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held. He tackled the guy. Only idiots blame Beatty for Cruz's injury, but he held.
Beatty pancaked him. He did 10% of what the Eagles have been doing to JPP and drew a flag. These fucking refs are doing a worse job than the Giants are tonight.
Definitely a pancake block not a hold.
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that should have been a 15 yard penalty, you can't touch him at all until ball hits ground
The ball was free. There is no penalty
It doesn't matter. When you signal a fair catch, even if you bobble it, you can not be touched and the ball can not be touched until it hits the ground. That's the rule
Not that it really matters in this game anyway.
My favorite was when Blakeman signaled offsides and then called holding on Pugh.
I feel an Eli pick here.
So that is what you would do? Move a guy who has barely practiced into the most important and most difficult position (for a WR) on the field? I think they will move one of the other guys who has been practicing the slot for a while.
I feel an Eli pick here.
Nearly.
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
Someone needs to rip your balls off and shove them down your throat.
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was the clear 4th and inches, and they gave them the first down.
Not that it really matters in this game anyway.
My favorite was when Blakeman signaled offsides and then called holding on Pugh.
Glad I wasn't the only one to see that.
There is a backup QB to take this abuse isn't there?
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
That's the Manning way. They walk around
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instead of acting like he's Peyton. The offense would probably be more efficient.
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
Someone needs to rip your balls off and shove them down your throat.
Lol. Chill.
Two punts in basically the fourth quarter down 27-0. The game is over, conceded. Got to protect your starting QB.
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instead of acting like he's Peyton. The offense would probably be more efficient.
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
Someone needs to rip your balls off and shove them down your throat.
Omaha?
And one big show .
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
Another fucking idiot. Not surprised.
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
The Giants aren't running the Packer offense, so... yeah.
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
Yeah, who does he think he is, with all these bullshit calls and setting the protection. It's almost as if he thinks he's some kind of QB or something.
WHY THE FUCK CAN WE NOT BRING FOLES DOWN? HOW BIG IS HE?
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instead of acting like he's Peyton. The offense would probably be more efficient.
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
Someone needs to rip your balls off and shove them down your throat.
Typical of you. Thinking of another mans balls
I can't take any more of this big game no-shows.
What does it take for a regime change? Thank you for the Super Bowls, but we need some new blood in here.
And Pugh a top 10 pick? And Beckham better than Martin, who looked really good earlier, what?
Now that Cruz is hurt, Reese will definitely draft another WR next year, anyone from LSU coming out?
I must missed it and so did the guys wearing blue helmets. Well, I did hear one screaming tonight like a little girl, and that's Cruz. Holy shit you are an embarrassment to football and everyone that has played. Can I not be a Giants fan anymore? Losers can't even score 0 points.
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instead of acting like he's Peyton. The offense would probably be more efficient.
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
Yeah, who does he think he is, with all these bullshit calls and setting the protection. It's almost as if he thinks he's some kind of QB or something.
Yeah he's done a damn good job of setting protections tonight
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instead of acting like he's Peyton. The offense would probably be more efficient.
I watched Aaron Rogers in this offense earlier today. And he just runs the damn play
Someone needs to rip your balls off and shove them down your throat.
Typical of you. Thinking of another mans balls
My bad, for how big of a bitch you are, you probably dont have balls.
this is proof that they are heavily favoring the Eagles.
I must missed it and so did the guys wearing blue helmets. Well, I did hear one screaming tonight like a little girl, and that's Cruz. Holy shit you are an embarrassment to football and everyone that has played. Can I not be a Giants fan anymore? Losers can't even score 0 points.
Dipshit eagle fan
But I have a feeling the G-Men will be ready for Dallas next week.
I like when he called holding while putting his hands on his hips.
True story
NFL grades these guys-if they do he will never ref again.
To be honest, he reverted back to that method last week. Wanting to slow the tempo down while thinking he speeding it up. Old habits.
Great job, NFL.
Registered October 2014
Very bad technique! What is the arm brace he has on? Is he hurt? He's just getting beaten quickly.
fucking pathetic
fucking pathetic
fucking pathetic
He neutralized shit. Watt had a sack and a few tackles behind the LOS.
You're winner for the biggest fucktard of the night award.
I must missed it and so did the guys wearing blue helmets. Well, I did hear one screaming tonight like a little girl, and that's Cruz. Holy shit you are an embarrassment to football and everyone that has played. Can I not be a Giants fan anymore? Losers can't even score 0 points.
Dont you and your skell friends have a shithole town to finish burning to the ground?
But I have a feeling the G-Men will be ready for Dallas next week.
Not so sure. This was an emotional drain and an utter embarrassment. Dallas hates the Giants more then anybody and will be licking their chops to get at us.
I just see Murray running for 200 yards against us!
more like short passes to the slow white guy who is a minimal threat, if any.
What specifically is Eli responsible for tonight? Failure to block or tackle?
The fucking leave. Your stupidity was not missed during your offseason hiatus.
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The fucking leave. Your stupidity was not missed during your offseason hiatus.
Dep. Still the biggest dipshit around here. Wasn't even calling you out. Hiatus? No. I just don't sit on a message board all day like you.
The line looked like five bags of trash, with legs.
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The fucking leave. Your stupidity was not missed during your offseason hiatus.
Dep. Still the biggest dipshit around here. Wasn't even calling you out. Hiatus? No. I just don't sit on a message board all day like you.
Once a bitch, always a bitch. Got nothing intelligent to say but shit on others. Go fuck yourself. I am sure you are as pathetic as guys like rflairr, bossman, and others fucktards of this board.
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Eli is only responsible for wins not losses. It is everybody else fault.
What specifically is Eli responsible for tonight? Failure to block or tackle?
He was responsible for not moving around the damn pocket, not running out of trouble or just standing there like stone. Shit even his older brother looked to move around to evade pressure. Eli is not stuck to the ground unless he is rolling out on a designed play.
Or is it Wine Coolers?
Agreed.
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Eli is only responsible for wins not losses. It is everybody else fault.
What specifically is Eli responsible for tonight? Failure to block or tackle?
He was responsible for not moving around the damn pocket, not running out of trouble or just standing there like stone. Shit even his older brother looked to move around to evade pressure. Eli is not stuck to the ground unless he is rolling out on a designed play.
Even if that were accurate, he's had zero time for anything. To point to that as even the smallest part of the offensive ineptitude, is just wanting to hate a player you hate.
We suck.
The Super Bowl 00 was pretty bad, so was Carolina 09. But this is a top fiver.
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Eli is only responsible for wins not losses. It is everybody else fault.
What specifically is Eli responsible for tonight? Failure to block or tackle?
He was responsible for not moving around the damn pocket, not running out of trouble or just standing there like stone. Shit even his older brother looked to move around to evade pressure. Eli is not stuck to the ground unless he is rolling out on a designed play.
Even if that were accurate, he's had zero time for anything. To point to that as even the smallest part of the offensive ineptitude, is just wanting to hate a player you hate.
WTF is wrong with you?????? A player I hate? Because I'm critical of Eli's inability to scramble in these games now. Go F yourself.
Hopefully they can somehow bounce back next week but after this game I'm not counting on it.
The guys in the black shirts all come off the line together and the guys in the white shirts and blue hats still in their stances.
When the white shirts are on offense, the guy in the black shirt owns the guy in the white shirt in the middle of the line (center). Four guys in black shirts all shoot the gaps between the five guys in white shirts, who all turn around and yell "Look out!"
When the white shirts are on defense, the guys in the black shirts push them around like they're on rollers.
And the refs don't call penalties on the guys in the black shirts.
Perhaps the offensive players in the white shirts will give their game checks to the punter - who worked overtime.
Who dipped OB's hands in concrete?
Hope you recover quickly and completely, Victor Cruz.
and a big fat zero
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Eli got back to the line of scrimmage on one in the first half that would have been 6, IIRC.
said they just jammed our recievers at the line and made eli hold the ball longer
that is why everything took so long to develop and eli got hammered