my biggest disappointment is Justin Pugh. Please tell me he's playing through some nagging injury? That was about as poor a performance as I can remember from an offensive lineman who's at least halfway decent.
Amazing this game ended 27-0. It had 41-0 written all over it.
my biggest disappointment is Justin Pugh. Please tell me he's playing through some nagging injury? That was about as poor a performance as I can remember from an offensive lineman who's at least halfway decent.
Amazing this game ended 27-0. It had 41-0 written all over it.
Pugh has looked a bit off at times this season. He's whiffed on a number of occasions. I think he's working through an injury, the arm protection would seem to indicate that.
it wasn't just Pugh. The ea gals got pressure right up the middle all night. I hope this is just a case of flatness, but I fear it's much deeper. It is gonna be a long season.
on down. Both coordinators were a day late and a dollar short... McAdoo with trying to run without numbers and example #1,012 of Fewell NOT even remotely trying to take away the opponents' main weapon. Coughlin wasted a timeout/challenge just because he was angry. The offensive line gave them NO CHANCE to win. Despite McCoy returning to life, I give the defense a slight pass because I think the issues were 99.99% related to the coordinator.
The injury to Cruz was like kicking a man with broken legs in the nuts. Repeatedly.
I'll be over this mess by tomorrow. The team... I'm not so sure about them.
used to this shit after last season and, let's face it, the Eagles have mostly had the Giants number in any sort of meaningful game for a while now.
But Cruz really hurts. Watching him sob being carted away was extremely difficult. Hopefully it's just for the season b/c the thought of his career being seriously affected is sickening.
Onto Dallas. Then after the bye Colts, Seahawks, Niners, Dallas again. (Fuck).
McClain - compelling life story - slow. Beason slowed by injuries and we don't have another starer quality LB on the team - until the rook gets healthy
Why did he keep running that same exact running play to the same exact hole all night? It got stuffed every single time.
Coughlin and McAdoo must have been hung over from last night or something. Neither of them showed up and their game decisions and overall perception were not alligned with anything in this game..
At least Fewell had the wherewithal to make adjustments, but they too were easily fooled by Chip Kelly's draw plays.
Poor Victor Cruz. Although this opens the door for OBJR, Cruz has some agonizing days ahead of him...
they're not great but they sure are formidable and can win and keep you in games. They're not bad.
Formidible my ass. Is this the first Eagles game you've watched this year? They stopped absolutely no one before tonight.
Then what does it say about the Giants offense? Not good. Even as bad as they ..Eagles D is portrayed .. they still posted a shutout of a team that was avg about 30 points a game the last 3 games. Like said, not great (i've watched them before this season) D but manageable or formidable to get the job done.
used to this shit after last season and, let's face it, the Eagles have mostly had the Giants number in any sort of meaningful game for a while now.
But Cruz really hurts. Watching him sob being carted away was extremely difficult. Hopefully it's just for the season b/c the thought of his career being seriously affected is sickening.
Onto Dallas. Then after the bye Colts, Seahawks, Niners, Dallas again. (Fuck).
Amen. It was as bad as it gets for Giants fans. Not only do you see Cruz go down with this type of season-ending injury, you get shut out by one of your most hated rivals.
was the 3rd and 1 pass after Williams crushed a Philly DB...we actually had some mojo going and fuck it up with a Gilbride-esque pass attempt. I hope Eli didn't check out of a run call because old habits die hard.
Why did he keep running that same exact running play to the same exact hole all night? It got stuffed every single time.
Coughlin and McAdoo must have been hung over from last night or something. Neither of them showed up and their game decisions and overall perception were not alligned with anything in this game..
At least Fewell had the wherewithal to make adjustments, but they too were easily fooled by Chip Kelly's draw plays.
Poor Victor Cruz. Although this opens the door for OBJR, Cruz has some agonizing days ahead of him...
trying to neutralize the eagles center blitz and 7 and 8 in the box. That has been the Eagle schtick against for 4 or 5 years now- break down the middle, get Eli to move his feet and effect his throws.
Maybe he's not affective out there right now. He didn't seem to have the burst he usually has. Could be a real liability next week. If we can't stop Murray, we won't win. Its as simple as that.
was the 3rd and 1 pass after Williams crushed a Philly DB...we actually had some mojo going and fuck it up with a Gilbride-esque pass attempt. I hope Eli didn't check out of a run call because old habits die hard.
I said this in the other thread. That play drove me fucking crazy. 3 wide shotgun on 3rd & 1?
Looked like he was playing hurt -- slow, really couldn't move to his right very well (this hasn't been true until tonight), and so he was often beaten and pushed around out there. Pugh just says he had his worst game, blah, blah -- not why. His weak play made the already suspect Jerry worse and thereby affected Walton's play, too. That is, this might explain why the whole OL fell apart. If so, it's unlikely to get much better by next Sunday: Pugh can't be rested if it looks like even a weakened Pugh is better than his healthy backup.
I feel like if Cruz's tendon doesn't go pop, he catches that pass
and the Giants make this a game. The defense was starting to dictate things. They were getting pressure. They were forcing Foles into bad decisions. A score would have given the offense some confidence and they could have done something when they got the ball back. Not saying we would have won, but we had a chance!
Instead, the defense just folded on the ensuing series. No pressure. The Eagles drove 93 yards almost effortlessly. The offense was lifeless after the play. I think the injury just deflated the team.
it was poor coaching. Why wasn't Pugh given any help? He was clearly having issues. Screens? Just because we didnt have Jennings doesnt mean we couldnt run a screen. I think we tried once.
Andre Williams needs coaching in a big way if he is going to have an NFL career. He looks for too much contact and he basically stops to load up for contact instead of keeping his feet moving. Now and then it looks great but he does it almost every time.
The DL missed Ayers, he has been a pleasant surprise this season but I dont recall seeing him play. Fewell needs to create some pressure with blitzes or something. There were a few plays where we gave them all day.
Coughlin made some poor decisions. The challenge was a joke. Going for it on 4th down so early in the 3rd quarter was a bad move. Yes they would have still been down 3 scores but it gets things going in a positive no matter what. Coughlin basically told the team if we dont get a TD here the game is over and it was. Macadoo seemed to call the same basic plays over and over. They should have rolled Eli out more, more screens to try to slow the rush and they barely did any of that. What about quick slants?
Maybe just a bad game. Everything seemed to go bad on O. Too many negative plays and long yardage situations. The D wasn't good but the O didnt do anything to help.
RE: The play that killed our offense from the get-go
was the 3rd and 1 pass after Williams crushed a Philly DB...we actually had some mojo going and fuck it up with a Gilbride-esque pass attempt. I hope Eli didn't check out of a run call because old habits die hard.
Agreed 100%. We gave the ball right back to those fucking assholes after they already went right down the field to take a 3-0 and allowed them to do it again to go up 10-0. 3rd and 1 after our RB just ran over their safety and we're passing. I dont get it.
Never seen a game, that there was a offensive holding penalty, on every drive. It was like, the refs waited for the Giants to get positive yards. And then called it back
Doesn't explain why Jax at least scored 17 points and the Rams played them fairly closely. The defense is 27th in the league (before last night). And, the Eagles let up.
that the team still stinks and it's going to be a long three months watching them stink it up. The three games were an aberration and they really don't have winnable games until the end of the season. The next five games are going to get Eli killed.
combined with a terrible injury to Cruz.. just made me sick all around.. I could have stomached a loss.. but to come out and not even compete.. terrible..
These blowouts have become far too commonplace under is regime
it was poor coaching. Why wasn't Pugh given any help? He was clearly having issues. Screens? Just because we didnt have Jennings doesnt mean we couldnt run a screen. I think we tried once.
Andre Williams needs coaching in a big way if he is going to have an NFL career. He looks for too much contact and he basically stops to load up for contact instead of keeping his feet moving. Now and then it looks great but he does it almost every time.
The DL missed Ayers, he has been a pleasant surprise this season but I dont recall seeing him play. Fewell needs to create some pressure with blitzes or something. There were a few plays where we gave them all day.
Coughlin made some poor decisions. The challenge was a joke. Going for it on 4th down so early in the 3rd quarter was a bad move. Yes they would have still been down 3 scores but it gets things going in a positive no matter what. Coughlin basically told the team if we dont get a TD here the game is over and it was. Macadoo seemed to call the same basic plays over and over. They should have rolled Eli out more, more screens to try to slow the rush and they barely did any of that. What about quick slants?
Maybe just a bad game. Everything seemed to go bad on O. Too many negative plays and long yardage situations. The D wasn't good but the O didnt do anything to help.
you can't help everyone. The middle of the line was being overwhelmed by the Eagles unbalanced line and the linebackers shooting bthe gaps.
Williams runs the way he runs. He's not elusive. If he was, he would have been a first round choice. He was not the problem last night.
You guys and your screens. First, the eagle linebackers are fast. Second, the eagles were playing their backers close to the LOS. You aren't running screens against that front. You need to attack the middle of the field and you need to run against it and break some running plays by getting past the front. We tried, but didn't do much of either.
Whining about play calling and coaching without seeing what the other guys are doing is foolish.
Right....screens and slants ...some would work if we tried
more...but eli is not mobile...more protections
should have been used...better running or less running
plays...move eli...or put nassib in....the little he
played...it was better....dallas will do same and
tc will have same gameplan.i think we go
down from here...unless big changes come
and they wont
Right....screens and slants ...some would work if we tried
more...but eli is not mobile...more protections
should have been used...better running or less running
plays...move eli...or put nassib in....the little he
played...it was better....dallas will do same and
tc will have same gameplan.i think we go
down from here...unless big changes come
and they wont
Seriously, just run right in the middle of traffic. See what happens. I dare you.
Eagles up next
BBurns : 10/6/2014 2:27 pm : link : reply
Two hands on the Ball Williams ...
I dread this game ......
Ok Williams held onto the Ball .
For the Past 5-6 years I have hoped for O-linemen The
Only Decent young player was Beatty .
Dallas Rebuilt theres and Philthy went out and grabbed
Jason Peters and rebuilt there Line meanwhile back
at the Big Blue Ranch Jerry drafts all kinds of shiny
toys . Wilson was a head scratcher but he was gifted .
Bottom Line is we have Plodders as RB's nothing that
scares anyone . The second Big Hole has been a Tackling
Machine Oh Nice grab with Beason but lots of tread
on the Tires . Doesnt matter who we draft at WR or TE .
Eli had ZERO Time .Dallas will dominate us as well .
As for the Game The Smirk on Chip Kelleys face drove
me crazy .The Play Calling looked like Last Years Team .
We ran our Mouths and then got punched in it .
Icing on the Cake was Cruz going down we should have
scored on the Beatty so called hold . Don't think it
would have changed the outcome either way .
What a Total humiliation .
Amazing this game ended 27-0. It had 41-0 written all over it.
And why in world didn't we kick the field goal in third quarte? What the heck was TC tthinking? That was a horrible call. Absolutely horrible.
An optimist, I see.
Amazing this game ended 27-0. It had 41-0 written all over it.
Pugh has looked a bit off at times this season. He's whiffed on a number of occasions. I think he's working through an injury, the arm protection would seem to indicate that.
And why in world didn't we kick the field goal in third quarte? What the heck was TC tthinking? That was a horrible call. Absolutely horrible.
i think it is fair to say that there is a very high chance that Cruz brings that ball in if he does not get hurt.
Then it is a great call.
blow this shit team up and start from scratch.
and Philly's a decent team who have struggled every week
scary stuff - this game was every bit as bad as the panthers game last year imo that seemed to scar everybody
The injury to Cruz was like kicking a man with broken legs in the nuts. Repeatedly.
I'll be over this mess by tomorrow. The team... I'm not so sure about them.
Formidible my ass. Is this the first Eagles game you've watched this year? They stopped absolutely no one before tonight.
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they're not great but they sure are formidable and can win and keep you in games. They're not bad.
Formidible my ass. Is this the first Eagles game you've watched this year? They stopped absolutely no one before tonight.
Austin Davis threw for 300 plus yards and 3 TDs. And their skill players are worse than ours. All comes to the OL. And right now, we dont have one.
But Cruz really hurts. Watching him sob being carted away was extremely difficult. Hopefully it's just for the season b/c the thought of his career being seriously affected is sickening.
Onto Dallas. Then after the bye Colts, Seahawks, Niners, Dallas again. (Fuck).
+1
Coughlin and McAdoo must have been hung over from last night or something. Neither of them showed up and their game decisions and overall perception were not alligned with anything in this game..
At least Fewell had the wherewithal to make adjustments, but they too were easily fooled by Chip Kelly's draw plays.
Poor Victor Cruz. Although this opens the door for OBJR, Cruz has some agonizing days ahead of him...
Have to keep the safeties back to worry about this generation's Rice and Taylor, known as Riley Cooper and Jeremy Maclin.
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they're not great but they sure are formidable and can win and keep you in games. They're not bad.
Formidible my ass. Is this the first Eagles game you've watched this year? They stopped absolutely no one before tonight.
Then what does it say about the Giants offense? Not good. Even as bad as they ..Eagles D is portrayed .. they still posted a shutout of a team that was avg about 30 points a game the last 3 games. Like said, not great (i've watched them before this season) D but manageable or formidable to get the job done.
O line shit the bed for the whole game. D line shit the bed in the first half, seemed to pick up play right before half and into the second half.
Overall they whooped the Giants in the trenches on both sides of the ball.
I still say if Cruz did does not get hurt and brings in that TD it may have been a different game.
But Cruz really hurts. Watching him sob being carted away was extremely difficult. Hopefully it's just for the season b/c the thought of his career being seriously affected is sickening.
Onto Dallas. Then after the bye Colts, Seahawks, Niners, Dallas again. (Fuck).
Amen. It was as bad as it gets for Giants fans. Not only do you see Cruz go down with this type of season-ending injury, you get shut out by one of your most hated rivals.
and of course, more talk after a bad loss - SOP
Losing Cruz is rough though, and what a way to lose him.
Vick and Barkley weren't playing QB.
Not that Foles is amazing, but he's a massive step up from that.
Coughlin and McAdoo must have been hung over from last night or something. Neither of them showed up and their game decisions and overall perception were not alligned with anything in this game..
At least Fewell had the wherewithal to make adjustments, but they too were easily fooled by Chip Kelly's draw plays.
Poor Victor Cruz. Although this opens the door for OBJR, Cruz has some agonizing days ahead of him...
Yeah, go look at your film again and laugh it up.
Soft team
I said this in the other thread. That play drove me fucking crazy. 3 wide shotgun on 3rd & 1?
Instead, the defense just folded on the ensuing series. No pressure. The Eagles drove 93 yards almost effortlessly. The offense was lifeless after the play. I think the injury just deflated the team.
Oline needs to step up big time next week.
Team needs to focus and shut the F up during the week. Be humble, you just got your ass handed to you.
They were totally dominated on both diodes of the ball
The reality is the Eagles were a playoff team last year and the Giants were sub .500.
It's gonna take a while to fix this team's issues and more then one offseason.
Andre Williams needs coaching in a big way if he is going to have an NFL career. He looks for too much contact and he basically stops to load up for contact instead of keeping his feet moving. Now and then it looks great but he does it almost every time.
The DL missed Ayers, he has been a pleasant surprise this season but I dont recall seeing him play. Fewell needs to create some pressure with blitzes or something. There were a few plays where we gave them all day.
Coughlin made some poor decisions. The challenge was a joke. Going for it on 4th down so early in the 3rd quarter was a bad move. Yes they would have still been down 3 scores but it gets things going in a positive no matter what. Coughlin basically told the team if we dont get a TD here the game is over and it was. Macadoo seemed to call the same basic plays over and over. They should have rolled Eli out more, more screens to try to slow the rush and they barely did any of that. What about quick slants?
Maybe just a bad game. Everything seemed to go bad on O. Too many negative plays and long yardage situations. The D wasn't good but the O didnt do anything to help.
Agreed 100%. We gave the ball right back to those fucking assholes after they already went right down the field to take a 3-0 and allowed them to do it again to go up 10-0. 3rd and 1 after our RB just ran over their safety and we're passing. I dont get it.
They were totally dominated on both diodes of the ball
Luckily you have a short memory because theres been quite a few in the past few years that rival this one. Getting tired of this shit.
Shut out and non-competitive by halftime
yeah, then on draft day we'll all be mad cause they picked who we wanted!
Flapping their fucking gums all week and then get utterly dominated from wire to wire. I can only hope John Mara is as sick of this bullshit as I am.
Andre Williams needs coaching in a big way if he is going to have an NFL career. He looks for too much contact and he basically stops to load up for contact instead of keeping his feet moving. Now and then it looks great but he does it almost every time.
The DL missed Ayers, he has been a pleasant surprise this season but I dont recall seeing him play. Fewell needs to create some pressure with blitzes or something. There were a few plays where we gave them all day.
Coughlin made some poor decisions. The challenge was a joke. Going for it on 4th down so early in the 3rd quarter was a bad move. Yes they would have still been down 3 scores but it gets things going in a positive no matter what. Coughlin basically told the team if we dont get a TD here the game is over and it was. Macadoo seemed to call the same basic plays over and over. They should have rolled Eli out more, more screens to try to slow the rush and they barely did any of that. What about quick slants?
Maybe just a bad game. Everything seemed to go bad on O. Too many negative plays and long yardage situations. The D wasn't good but the O didnt do anything to help.
Williams runs the way he runs. He's not elusive. If he was, he would have been a first round choice. He was not the problem last night.
You guys and your screens. First, the eagle linebackers are fast. Second, the eagles were playing their backers close to the LOS. You aren't running screens against that front. You need to attack the middle of the field and you need to run against it and break some running plays by getting past the front. We tried, but didn't do much of either.
Whining about play calling and coaching without seeing what the other guys are doing is foolish.
more...but eli is not mobile...more protections
should have been used...better running or less running
plays...move eli...or put nassib in....the little he
played...it was better....dallas will do same and
tc will have same gameplan.i think we go
down from here...unless big changes come
and they wont
more...but eli is not mobile...more protections
should have been used...better running or less running
plays...move eli...or put nassib in....the little he
played...it was better....dallas will do same and
tc will have same gameplan.i think we go
down from here...unless big changes come
and they wont
Seriously, just run right in the middle of traffic. See what happens. I dare you.
they are now a team that laid down like pansies for their biggest rival and will hence be treated as such. these guys are losers
BBurns : 10/6/2014 2:27 pm : link : reply
Two hands on the Ball Williams ...
I dread this game ......
Ok Williams held onto the Ball .
For the Past 5-6 years I have hoped for O-linemen The
Only Decent young player was Beatty .
Dallas Rebuilt theres and Philthy went out and grabbed
Jason Peters and rebuilt there Line meanwhile back
at the Big Blue Ranch Jerry drafts all kinds of shiny
toys . Wilson was a head scratcher but he was gifted .
Bottom Line is we have Plodders as RB's nothing that
scares anyone . The second Big Hole has been a Tackling
Machine Oh Nice grab with Beason but lots of tread
on the Tires . Doesnt matter who we draft at WR or TE .
Eli had ZERO Time .Dallas will dominate us as well .
As for the Game The Smirk on Chip Kelleys face drove
me crazy .The Play Calling looked like Last Years Team .
We ran our Mouths and then got punched in it .
Icing on the Cake was Cruz going down we should have
scored on the Beatty so called hold . Don't think it
would have changed the outcome either way .
What a Total humiliation .