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Actually feel good about the Dallas game..

Big Blue '56 : 10/13/2014 12:24 pm
Never felt it for the Eagles game, not for a minute..Like a bunch of you, you kind of get the sense(that's all it can be) how the next week's game is gonna turn out and more often than not the feel turns into basis of fact. We'll see of course..But as an aside, I can't remember the last time we won a game when the players talked smack or with too much confidence heading into the next contest. Can you?

My reasons for this "sense" of mine:

1) The hype will be all about Dallas..Much more than the usual Dallas Hype..The talk will be twofold: The usual America's Team theme, PLUS, the BEST team in football at present fellating..TC will talk that up all week

2- Given the above, it's human nature to get full of yourself, especially an organization as dysfunctional as Dallas' is..They just beat the SB champion in their house which is rarer than rare..

3-I do not believe the OL will perform this way again as they have been improving..The best of lines have horrific days..They will fix the leaks imo, just watch, though as I've said, Jennings' ability to help protect Eli was a huge loss..Heal fast, hurry back

4-We lost arguably our second biggest O weapon in Cruz and that, added to the Cowboys overconfidence, will, no doubt, imo, allow us to "sneak" up on the Cowboys with a diverse passing attack with Donnell being featured more. OBJ, Randall and Donnell should be able to mitigate the Cruz loss somehow, BUT, we need to effectively run the ball.

5-The Giants will be very quiet this week, study even harder and allow their being buried by MOST, be their catalyst towards a top performance..

Murray will NOT reach 100+ for the first time this year, because EVERYONE, including many here, will cede him 150+ in all likelihood..The Giants will shut him down, imo..

Sorry this "feeling" or "sense" is not fact-filled or devoid of any facts..


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From that thread title, I just figured you had become a Dallas fan.  
Stu : 10/13/2014 12:26 pm : link
.....
Dr. 56  
bc4life : 10/13/2014 12:28 pm : link
You should take a pill for that feeling, you're only torturing yourself.
No Jennings  
natefit : 10/13/2014 12:29 pm : link
and OBJ and Donnell will be dbled. And its in big D. Glad you feel good
Step two on the way to....  
Emlen'sGremlins : 10/13/2014 12:30 pm : link
....3-8.
The Dallas game is Fox's Game of the Week right?  
Chef : 10/13/2014 12:30 pm : link
Nationally televised?
It's never as good as bad as it seems  
rdt288 : 10/13/2014 12:31 pm : link
Never
Followed by meaningless 4 game win streak....  
Emlen'sGremlins : 10/13/2014 12:33 pm : link
....Prior To Losing Season Finale. 7-9 Record. Once Again, Not Good Enough For Playoffs And Not Bad Enough For Meaningful Draft Position.
I think the results  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/13/2014 12:33 pm : link
will be much of the same. We couldnt get pressure with a make shift OLine the Eagle had... Dallas Oline is huge and will push around our DL much like they did against the Sea Chickens...

The loss of Cruz is huge!! We dont have another slot guy on the roster.

Whatever the hell you're on...  
silverfox : 10/13/2014 12:34 pm : link
...its the perfect time for it.
I agree with 56  
Stan from LA : 10/13/2014 12:35 pm : link
All signs point to an upset...

BUT...

If the Giants get blown out...

3-8 here we come.
based  
whobetta : 10/13/2014 12:37 pm : link
on thread title.


what are you smoking and can i have some?!?!?!?!
You know Stan, what some apparently don't realize  
Big Blue '56 : 10/13/2014 12:38 pm : link
is that even if Dallas and Philly continue their winnings ways(doubtful, imo), we are still, even with a Dallas loss, very much in the thick of the WC race which is all one can hope for as we continue to blend in our newbies
I hope I'm wrong  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/13/2014 12:39 pm : link
But I think Dallas is going to smell blood in the water and win big.
RE: You know Stan, what some apparently don't realize  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/13/2014 12:40 pm : link
In comment 11917959 Big Blue '56 said:
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is that even if Dallas and Philly continue their winnings ways(doubtful, imo), we are still, even with a Dallas loss, very much in the thick of the WC race which is all one can hope for as we continue to blend in our newbies


We are, but I have a feeling those loses to Detroit and Arizona are going to haunt us in tiebreaker scenarios.
unfortunately,  
fkap : 10/13/2014 12:41 pm : link
under TC, we have a tendency to simply fold/play lackluster rather than stand up and roar after a bad game.
if  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/13/2014 12:41 pm : link
we have Cruz and Jennings and DRC and McBride, yes. But we're a bit undermanned at key spots right now.
Optimisn,  
Doomster : 10/13/2014 12:43 pm : link
thy name is Big Blue '56.....

When you look at different games from week to week, you say to yourself, after the game is played, how the hell did that happen?

It's the same as the Dallas game......they have a good passing game with weapons, and a good/great running game, with Murray averaging 130 per game.....no one had held him under 100 yards including the best rush defense in the NFC....they have a decent defense....

They beat Seattle....we get crushed/humiliated by the Eagles......a no brainer.....but this is the NFL and anything can happen.....there is no rhyme or reason for it....upsets happen.....now, BB56, can you email me the PowerBall numbers?
Hope I'm wrong  
bluesince56 : 10/13/2014 12:44 pm : link
but I expect the same as last night against the Boys in Sunday
Even with the guys Eric  
pjcas18 : 10/13/2014 12:45 pm : link
mentioned, based on how the D played yesterday against a struggling running game and patchwork OL the Cowboys will rush for 250+ yards.

The Giants can take Witten and Bryant out of the game completely (unlikely) and get blown out of the stadium.

They better be more prepared than last night or they'll get debacled again.

Even though they're 3 - 3, another debacling and I don't see much promise for the rest of the season.

we're still in the hunt for  
fkap : 10/13/2014 12:46 pm : link
a WC, but, we still need to make up ground to get there
56  
mdc1 : 10/13/2014 12:47 pm : link
needs to tune that optimism filter. This team may likely just be a pretender that beat some weak teams. Without Cruz and our porous defense, the coaching needs to really step up.
You!.......You!.......You!  
Rocky Thompson : 10/13/2014 12:48 pm : link

must have been a beautiful baby
You must have been a beautiful child
When we was only startin'
To go to kindergarten
You must've drove the little girls wild...
well Fifty Six I have to admit I was wrong and you were 100% right  
Giants11 : 10/13/2014 12:51 pm : link
about the Jennings loss. So I'll go with you this week again and hope you are spot on!
It comes down to the way the two teams' lines are playing  
micky : 10/13/2014 12:53 pm : link
now. Giants OL has majorly imv digressed last night. You say an aberration? Maybe..but to step that far back is indication something is going and shouldn't be overlooked as just a blip. Dallas OL has been playing good on a consistent basis now. The matchup of the Giants DL vs their OL isn't good. Look last night vs an a lesser OL imv than Dallas', Foles had plenty of time back there.

Only chance of the Giants of making it a game this week, is that both their OL (which needs to dramaitcally improve in 1 week)can both keep Eli clean for the most part and ability to run block. Don't see that happening quite yet vs thsi opponent. And their DL get consistent pressure on Romo and ability to stop their run game. Can't see them getting through that line to do so.

Hey anything can happen, but i think this game is a lost cause in the trenches for the Giants. That's where it all starts.
micky, I'm entrusting you with the following:  
Big Blue '56 : 10/13/2014 12:57 pm : link
If we win, you will bring this thread up..

If I'm wrong, I'm positive others will..:)

Can I count on you?
you can count on me doc  
micky : 10/13/2014 1:04 pm : link
got my word. Damn I'm hoping you are right though!
I know it's a reach but i think Cox needs to be more involved  
Giants11 : 10/13/2014 1:05 pm : link
vs. Dallas. At least he gives us some of the speed/pass catching ability we miss with Jennings. The lack of versatility in the backfield last night was glaring. It changed the whole outlook that the opposing D had on facing our offense.
RE: if  
shabu : 10/13/2014 1:12 pm : link
In comment 11917968 Eric from BBI said:
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we have Cruz and Jennings and DRC and McBride, yes. But we're a bit undermanned at key spots right now.


Yes, unfortunately :(
My hope is Giants can keep the score  
deadkurtrulz : 10/13/2014 1:20 pm : link
down and only lose by ten points. Maybe we can stop Murray in red zone a few times and hold them to FG's.

Giants just made a weak Philly defense look like a combination of the 75 Steelers and the 85 Bears. My faith in this offense has vanished. The scheme is good but the OL is very, very weak. Any hope of exploiting a soft Dallas D is gone.
I personally  
Arcanum : 10/13/2014 1:21 pm : link
Don't think Romo will finish this game. Not wishing anything on him. But he don't look healthy at all. I think it's just a matter of time for him.
Post this thread on Wednesday..  
Sean : 10/13/2014 1:22 pm : link
and more will agree with you.
To tell you truth  
blueblood'11 : 10/13/2014 1:39 pm : link
After watching how poorly they played and how outwitted our coordinators were to try and make some kind of adjustment I don't know how you can have even the slightest bit of good vibes going into next week. Rod Marinelli has them playing good team defense. And the offensive coordinator a former head coach whose name I forget is running the offense excellently. And don't forget Mike Pope is also on the sidelines coaching the tightends.

The Giants are not only outmanned on the field of play they are also outclassed at the coordinator spots as well. I hope for the best next week but I cannot see them winning this game in Dallas.
I agree with you BB56  
PatersonPlank : 10/13/2014 1:42 pm : link
It is the way of the NFL
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Diver_Down : 10/13/2014 2:16 pm : link
Medical weed is a wonderful thing.  
Phil in Joisey : 10/13/2014 2:31 pm : link
I wish I could share your optimism and your stash, but I'm not feeling it. The Giants were fine against Houston, Washington and Atlanta.. those are the teams we can beat. The upcoming schedule is above the Giants' competitive level. I'm hoping we're able to win the game against bye.
Looking good, Doc!!!  
Stu : 10/13/2014 2:42 pm : link
.  
arcarsenal : 10/13/2014 2:49 pm : link
I have to say, it's at least amusing to watch this place go from one extreme to another on a dime.

A few days ago, you saw posts about Eli having a career year, this being the best team in the NFCE, having a better offense than the Eagles, the best defense in the division, how we should have a realistic shot at 10-6, Reese knew exactly what he was doing with the OL, etc..

Now the only teams we will beat are crappy ones, the OL sucks, Eli is done again and every solid team is going to steamroll us.

Entirely predictable, but.. amusing nonetheless.
I agree Arc  
Giants11 : 10/13/2014 3:05 pm : link
This place has become a joke.This a week to week league, and you can't get caught up in the ups and downs. Sure losing McBride and Cruz hurts, but I have a feeling DRC will gut it out next week. People really need to get a grip. This up and down thing with the offense and the reactions around here get comical.
I would probably feel the same if  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/13/2014 3:11 pm : link
CB wasn't in the process of being decimated and we had Jennings and/or Cruz. The injury bug is starting to hit this team.
Now we're definitely going to lose.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/13/2014 3:22 pm : link
.
I believe....  
BillKo : 10/13/2014 3:51 pm : link
before the Seattle game, Dallas was giving up the most yards per play in the league.

Now, they are able to control the ball with their running game, thus keeping the ball away from the opposing offense.....which helps great.

We certainly have a chance in the game....every NFL game is different.

And Dallas will no doubt be confident, and perhaps over confident.
Me too  
old man : 10/13/2014 3:52 pm : link
Different day, location,and team.
And we all knew in our hearts that, after game 5, games 6 and 7 would give fans a measure of what the Giants would be this year. And yes the injuries into and out of last night are brutal. Also, this season was going to be a growing pains season as we transition both a new O but also new players on D.
That all said, at least we know that based on the Watt and Seattle DE misses that TR has a spin right move he likes and can pursue him accordingly.
Lets see what results are before we panic.
If we really are only better than Oakland, Jville, StL and Washington and those level of teams, its what it is.
In the meantime, lets go BigBlue.
Depending on how things go with DRC, etc.  
RB^2 : 10/13/2014 4:00 pm : link
It's very possible that Dallas will skull fuck the Giants. We're in pretty bad shape.
RE: The Dallas game is Fox's Game of the Week right?  
Giants4246 : 10/13/2014 4:52 pm : link
In comment 11917922 Chef said:
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Nationally televised?


Yep, 4:25 start and aikman told francesa on friday he's doing the game. This is a must win game, no two ways about it.
I have no idea what to expect anymore  
Danny Kanell : 10/13/2014 4:53 pm : link
Last night really threw me for a loop after the previous 3 threw me for a loop for the opposite reasons.

I'm just gonna get drunk and enjoy watching the Giants play Dallas on a nice fall afternoon.

Go Blue.
all the dallas fans are coming out of the woodwork calling francesa  
Giants4246 : 10/13/2014 4:58 pm : link
Its fucking maddening.
God Help Me, I Agree,  
clatterbuck : 10/13/2014 5:26 pm : link
No real reason or logic, just the Gods of Football having their way.
All the talk coming from  
Bleedin Blue : 10/13/2014 5:29 pm : link
the Eagles post game, about how they figured out Eli's hand signals, and where he was going on his audibles, brings back the nightmare of the Panthers' game. The game where Delhomme was telling his defense to look for Eli's hand signals, and what they meant , and where he was going to go with the ball.
This was such a bad loss, but it was still just one game. I hope they can put it behind them, deal with Cruz's loss and move forward.
Dallas is going to put up points  
Dave in PA : 10/13/2014 6:27 pm : link
I don't think the Giants will be able to hang in a shootout. Based on Dallas' recent play and the Giants just putting on one of the most pathetic performances I've ever seen in the NFL, optimism is almost nonexistent
No one should be confident about this game  
Patrick77 : 10/13/2014 6:38 pm : link
The Giants did nothing right last night and have been beaten by every reasonably good team they have faced thus far. Dallas is better than the Giants.

Not saying they can't or won't win. Just saying anyone having confidence in the Giants clearly isn't watching them. The lions game wasn't an aberration. And it's not like the team is deep enough to replace injured players with decent production anyways.
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