Anyone have any theories why offensive line played so bad

play soft zone anymore. You have to get in the receivers face at the LOS and disrupt them before the 5 yds or you are dead.

The Eagles sent 1 or 2 more players (so 6-7) than our offensive lineman on every play. So their was no way the OL was going to hold for long. The RB's needed to block and I don't think they did. The Eagles also jammed the WRs so the short patterns and timing things were delayed. Basically they bet that they could get to Eli before the WR's got back on their routes, or before the Giants WR's could have run deeper patterns. This is exactly the same defense the Eagles always run against us.

We could have stopped this by:
- The WR's getting more physical and off the jamming
- The RB's blocking better
- Finding someway to run (which backs off the rush)
- Finding some way to throw a screen (not sure why we couldn't)
- Eli being a scrambling QB (although this leads to other issues so its only a temp solution)

the one play that worked all night was Eli rolling out to his right and hitting Randle on the comeback. Maybe we should have run variatons of this play a lot more. Get Eli out of the pocket to slow down that inside rush.

In comment 11919417 Victor in CT said:

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play soft zone anymore. You have to get in the receivers face at the LOS and disrupt them before the 5 yds or you are dead.

The Giants weren't playing soft zone from all the comments I heard after the game. The guys running wide open on crossing routes has been multiple times blamed on playing man coverage.

The defense has been soft in zone, and gets 3 steps behind in man coverage, can't get a pass rush with 4 linemen, often misses the tackles at the line or for a loss, and is slow side line to side line.

The fast linebackers on this team play soft, miss tackles and don't know their assignments. The slow ones can't cover anyone or make it sideline to sideline to stop faster offenses. The vaunted defensive line routinely gets outplayed for entire quarters or halves of games. Multiple times McCoy was hit or had to avoid guys in the backfield only for the Giants to miss and let him get the edge and/or get upfield.

The more I think about it the more I think that Fewell is exactly what this team needs. Could you imagine blitzing and leaving the linebackers, safeties, and corners (Prince and DRC aside) manning up 1 on 1? How the hell do you scheme around that?

can handle vanilla,,,,when it gets more complicated they don't know their assignments. We have seen this before. Not with this group but we have seen this before.

Expect more of the same Sunday.

we will head into the next draft with the same areas of concern...OL,LB,WR and safety.

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we will head into the next draft with the same areas of concern...OL,LB,WR and safety.

And Tight End, and CB depth - 2 injuries were already out of options, which is scary

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In comment 11919722 blue42 said: Quote: we will head into the next draft with the same areas of concern...OL,LB,WR and safety. And Tight End, and CB depth - 2 injuries were already out of options, which is scary

You guys forgot running back as well. Without Jennings there isn't a single running back on the roster capable of playing 3 downs in the NFL. Other teams can get to their 4th RB and still have a functioning offense. The Giants offense without Jennings can't run, pass block, run screens, or catch passes in the flat. Hillis isn't the answer.

In comment 11919344 JAKK777 said:

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it all started with replacing McCLain with a cripple who cannot play well on two good feet The D went jello soft.......that allowed Philly to play with house money and bring the house all game long- Blitzkrieg there was a Domino effect Also not starting Hillis at RB was another pure stroke of Coughlin genius Williams has proven time and time again he cannot cut back and cannot move the ball in first halves when Defenses are well rested. Fells and Moore were not used #52 with his golden slippers looked like a guy at a train station LOST For all these cascading reasons starting with Beason I changed my pick when I heard Beason was starting and replacing McCLain from giants 35-13 to Eagles 37-12 I missed the point differential by 2 points as II had the 2 previous Giants games.....Call my Nostradumbass......I'm a Giants fan but for e the season is now over, as I know Beason will never be replaced. I also was waiting for someone to stack the box with 8-9 guys to stop our "West Coast Offense" and Philadelphia did it all game long

stop trolling and leave. Anyone who thinks that playing Beason was the reason our OFFENSE went from scoring 35 points to only 12 points is just a rambling idiot who likes to hear himself make ridiculous claims than actually think liek a rational adult.

Just change your handle to Incarcerated Bob so that everyone else knows you are ridiculous right off the bat.

1) I think Philly did a great job masking their blitzes and confused the OL.

2) I think our gameplan relied slightly more on intermediate routes than the underneath, which makes no sense to me.

hardly noticed any screens called in the first 3 quarters... I didn't watch much of the 4th quarter. Isn't screens one of the ways you can counter the blitz? However said the offense looked like a Gilbride offense Sunday is correct.

Still think Pugh is secretly injured, Then domino theory. I know, I've said this before. Maybe he's a little heavy too soon, as well. This doesn't mean he can't, and they can't, get it together for Dallas. After all, it's only the whole rest of the season.

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1) I think Philly did a great job masking their blitzes and confused the OL. 2) I think our gameplan relied slightly more on intermediate routes than the underneath, which makes no sense to me.

If what some of the guys on Philly said are true, that they knew what Eli was going to do based on the way they lined up initially they didn't have to disguise their blitzes. They knew he'd kill the initial play and go to plan B, and also knew what that was going to be based on what they'd seen on film.

Pugh and Beatty simply lost a lot of one on one match ups w Barwin and Cole. It's a casual observation, I'm not watching coaches tape or anything, but not seems like Pugh has major lapses in technique, leaning in particular. Barwin seemed to give them a lot of trouble. I thought he was an average signing at best but he's played well for them.

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In comment 11919344 JAKK777 said: Quote: it all started with replacing McCLain with a cripple who cannot play well on two good feet The D went jello soft.......that allowed Philly to play with house money and bring the house all game long- Blitzkrieg there was a Domino effect Also not starting Hillis at RB was another pure stroke of Coughlin genius Williams has proven time and time again he cannot cut back and cannot move the ball in first halves when Defenses are well rested. Fells and Moore were not used #52 with his golden slippers looked like a guy at a train station LOST For all these cascading reasons starting with Beason I changed my pick when I heard Beason was starting and replacing McCLain from giants 35-13 to Eagles 37-12 I missed the point differential by 2 points as II had the 2 previous Giants games.....Call my Nostradumbass......I'm a Giants fan but for e the season is now over, as I know Beason will never be replaced. I also was waiting for someone to stack the box with 8-9 guys to stop our "West Coast Offense" and Philadelphia did it all game long stop trolling and leave. Anyone who thinks that playing Beason was the reason our OFFENSE went from scoring 35 points to only 12 points is just a rambling idiot who likes to hear himself make ridiculous claims than actually think liek a rational adult. Just change your handle to Incarcerated Bob so that everyone else knows you are ridiculous right off the bat.

Ok wiseguy
I have nailed the exact giants scores for the last 3 games
check in the GMB under BParcells777 and you will see I did.
I reversed the philly outcome when I saw the cripple was playing......I had good reason and out lined them
we are 0-3 with Beason, and 3-0 with McCLain
the MLBer is the QB of the Defense........a VERRRRY important guy
when you are 20 points ahead you can pin back your ears and tear through any offensive line
it would have helped if Grandpa Tom put in a two TE formation with Fells and Hillis to block but he is TOO STUPID AND STUBBORN to do that........the last tiem the guy made a halftime change was 1903
you wanna bet against me go ahead Cowboys 33, Giants 17

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is a lunatic.

It is a house filled with "company men" overseen by an overbearing little tyrant "Mod" .....he regularly shuts down posts and shuts down anything he personally disagrees with

to be honest the guy could not tell a football from a Mango

you can call me ignorant, a imbicile, a lunatic whatever

I get it right 90% of the time and the homers get it wrong 90% of the time

they live in a bubble of 2 SBs won 4-8 years ago... I deal with football passionately but with eyes wide open

In comment 11919133 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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is calling somebody else an internet tough guy? Listen fuckhead - you want to bench one of the more solid OL guys for a bad game? Yeah - that's logical. Let's do that for everyone. eli has a 4 INT game - bench him. Randle runs a few wrong routes - bench his ass. JPP - misses a few tackles, fucking cut him. Hey, Ace - who is the next man up that will be guaranteed not to fuck up? Got any inside info on the Bears, Chief?

LOL this is refreshing....that post would never be allowed on the Giants board BRAVO