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Giants interested in Mike Williams (Bills WR)

T-Bone : 10/14/2014 9:47 am
I'd rather they stay in-house as well.

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In the wake of Victor Cruz's season-ending knee injury, the Giants will at least explore Williams.

Giants looking at Williams - ( New Window )
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RE: Maybe I'm wrong but hasn't this guy been a bust on every team he  
Giantfootball025 : 10/14/2014 11:04 am : link
In comment 11919365 PatersonPlank said:
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played for? He was a high draft choice who hasn't don't a thing, why would we want him.


You're thinking of Mike Williams from USC who was a 1st round pick and a bust. This is Mike Williams from Syracuse 4th round pick who had over 20 td's in his first 3 seasons.
RE: I see Ramses Barden 2.0  
Damon : 10/14/2014 11:05 am : link
In comment 11919260 pjcas18 said:
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in Corey Washington.


That's a bit dramatic... Don't you think?
a lazy ME guy  
natefit : 10/14/2014 11:06 am : link
or a player with something to prove? Bring him in and work him out and find out
RE: RE: I see Ramses Barden 2.0  
Randy in CT : 10/14/2014 11:07 am : link
In comment 11919386 Damon said:
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In comment 11919260 pjcas18 said:


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in Corey Washington.




That's a bit dramatic... Don't you think?
No similarities.
How is Ramses Barden  
NYGmen58 : 10/14/2014 11:11 am : link
anywhere comparable to Washington, aside form both being wide receivers?!

Some posters on here on beyond pathetic.
RE: RE: I see Ramses Barden 2.0  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2014 11:12 am : link
In comment 11919386 Damon said:
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In comment 11919260 pjcas18 said:


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in Corey Washington.




That's a bit dramatic... Don't you think?


Probably, but is there a long history of UDFA WR's from DII Newberry College making it to the NFL? Odds are against him.

Thanks Giantfootball025  
PatersonPlank : 10/14/2014 11:13 am : link
Ok now I am a little more interested. Plus Coughlin should be able to get a good read on him since he is an "Orange"
RE: a lazy ME guy  
Section331 : 10/14/2014 11:18 am : link
In comment 11919389 natefit said:
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or a player with something to prove? Bring him in and work him out and find out


Since he's under contract, you can't just bring him in and work him out. They'll have to do their due diligence in other ways, like reaching out to Mike Sullivan and get his thoughts.
RIght forgot that  
natefit : 10/14/2014 11:20 am : link
and that makes it a tougher call higher risk...
I wouldn't mind....  
damdevs : 10/14/2014 11:41 am : link
adding Williams, but with those contract numbers I'd pass on him.

If he can be had for a 6th  
phil fromphilly : 10/14/2014 12:09 pm : link
It's worth it. If he doesn't work out just cut him before the guarantee kicks in.
holy crap  
fkap : 10/14/2014 12:50 pm : link
this guy needs a new agent (right after Giants redo his contract, of course). Who signs a deal like that? high dollar amount, but 0 liability if the team cuts him. Looks like no signing bonus. That's a recipe for never seeing those dollars.

Over the Cap has a new format which lists base salary as guaranteed for every year. I checked Eli, and per OTC his salary next year is 'guaranteed', which is not true. perhaps they mean since he's vested, if he's on the team for the opening game, his salary is guaranteed. That part should be a given. I'd rather know what is truly guaranteed by contract, not by league rules.
Stephen Hill  
SHO'NUFF : 10/14/2014 12:53 pm : link
give him a shot with a real QB...
By the way..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/14/2014 12:58 pm : link
this is Mike Williams from Syracuse who walked away from his senior year. Mike williams who would not resign with TB, and Mike Williams who now is demanding a trade.

Look at his numbers, but realize that this is a guy who quickly leaves any situation he's in. Like I said above - for this year - fine, kick the tires, but let's not expect commitment or hard work to come from him.
No they don't say Eli's  
pjcas18 : 10/14/2014 1:00 pm : link
contract is guaranteed on over the cap.

They show very clearly Eli could be cut with very little dead money (only pro-rated bonuses).

The guaranteed portion of the contract is displayed underneath the contract amount in italics.

And Mike Williams signed a 6 year 40M deal with 15M guaranteed with the Bucs in 2013. he was traded and his guarantees don't go away.

But then he signed a new deal with the Bills that gave him more guaranteed money.

I don't think he needs a new agent.
He's a  
dorgan : 10/14/2014 1:01 pm : link
real odd duck. Talented as hell, but hasn't displayed a lot commitment to the game or to any team.

He's the kind of guy that you keep waiting for him to grow up.

My theory is that you'll still be waiting for that when he's dead.

If this trade happens, it would make me a bit optimistic  
Some Fan : 10/14/2014 1:25 pm : link
as in Giants management thinks they have a legit shot to do something big this year notwithstanding the display of football we all saw on Sunday night.
Not going to happen  
FJ : 10/14/2014 1:33 pm : link
"I said, 'We like Mike Williams. We expect him back and we expect big things from him,'" [Bills' GM] Whaley said. "But like anybody, if he gets us compensation worthy of a No. 1 wide receiver -- which he claimed he is -- then we would entertain it."
Whaley sounds like  
Randy in CT : 10/14/2014 1:34 pm : link
a cockfuckhead there.
RE: He's a  
David in LA : 10/14/2014 1:48 pm : link
In comment 11919655 dorgan said:
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real odd duck. Talented as hell, but hasn't displayed a lot commitment to the game or to any team.

He's the kind of guy that you keep waiting for him to grow up.

My theory is that you'll still be waiting for that when he's dead.


Sounds like a coach killer to me.
Raanan: Not happening  
Defenderdawg : 10/14/2014 1:49 pm : link
"The Giants are not interested in giving up a draft pick and paying Williams a hefty salary, a person familiar with the situation told NJ.com. Williams is making over $1 million this year and guaranteed more than $5 million in 2015..."

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Reading this stuff, I wonder if Williams is a guy with talent  
Some Fan : 10/14/2014 1:54 pm : link
but not really into football.
When I hear "odd duck"  
Some Fan : 10/14/2014 1:55 pm : link
I think may not be into football rather than an asshole who doesn't want to listen to anyone and is self-destructive.
glad we are passing  
UConn4523 : 10/14/2014 2:01 pm : link
just move on and get the young guys as many reps as possible. They will sign a vet that can be a solid #3 guy, but its Randle and Beckhams time now.
How about  
Glover : 10/14/2014 2:52 pm : link
Michael Clayton?
RE:  
Giants2012 : 10/14/2014 2:55 pm : link
In comment 11919287 Ben in Tampa said:
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is such a non factor. These guys are professionals, he will learn the playbook. We don't run a super complicated offense anymore.


Yeah, just ask Randle. Another mental gem from LSU.
Josh Boyce  
Dragon : 10/14/2014 3:12 pm : link
Is on the Pats PS he present decent size 5-11 205 and very good speed for the slot position. He has more tools to work with than anyone on our roster in the slot presently.
Mike is far from the smartest kid in football, but he's not a bad kid.  
L.T.=Lawrence Taylor : 10/14/2014 3:51 pm : link
You never know, what's happened in Tampa and Buffalo might just motivate him. He has to know he doesn't have that many chances left to stick in the league. If that doesn't make him work hard than he's just a moron.
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