Has the O been exposed?

Cut cause Williams was in there instead?

that the Eagles did a lot of what teams did to our O-line last year, namely charge the center-guard gaps. Our line didn't pick it up very well and neither did the RB. Of course, this doesn't explain why Pugh had such a bad game.

Maybe putting Schwartz in at guard when he gets better and moving Richburg to center would help a bit.

on the team just yet. We were outcoached and our players were playing slow without direction looking confused and lost. We can still turn this around. Long week for TC and the rest of the coaches. Beat the Boys and all will be forgiven.

1 game isn't enough and in that 1 game the Oline was horrendous. I don't think this had anything to do with our new offense.

Eli was calling. Said they knew what was coming. Not what you want to hear.

we've played since the Lions.

Hopefully they are still just working out the kinks when it comes to that kind of alignment.

From what I understand, the Eagles pressed the WRs to slow the quick throws. They brought pressure up the middle to take advantage of our center and Eli's inability to escape. They also anticipated pre-snap changes Eli made and were positioned to stop the play. That sounds like a plan that can be duplicated.

find a way to deal with it.

but Fatman's theory on BBI posters is being validated hourly.

that was exposed, not the offense....with the OL failing, none of the plays called worked with any degree of consistency....

The Eagles D read the Giants like a book.

I thought we fixed it.
Maybe the game was a set up for the dec 28 game as vanilla as the offense was it looked like preseason again. Yea that's it ;)

In comment 11920641 Doomster said:

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that was exposed, not the offense....with the OL failing, none of the plays called worked with any degree of consistency....

I saw a few plays where Eli rolled out (hit Cruz for a big gain on one)but they went away from it as the game went on. Why?

Eli hit Randle on a few comeback routes after rolling out. It was a successful play, and we should have run different variations of it to slow down that interior rush. Why we only did it a couple of times was puzzling. Run it until they stop it.

Got manhandled. ..lot of that has to do with
technique. ..maybe we need better oline coach...

It's been 6 games with a first time coordinator, we don't even know what the O really is.

Now, if by exposed do you mean "if the OL plays an awful game will the offense look bad and struggle?", then yes.

In comment 11920325 Mondo said:

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Cut cause Williams was in there instead?

Based on reading everything coming from the Philly side, they wanted to do three things:

1. Eli was releasing the ball in 2.2 seconds. So they wanted him to hold the ball longer by attacking his receivers.

2. They wanted to overload the Giants o-line, so they would routinely rush 5 guys and have them match up one-on-one and then blitz off that.

3. They wanted to bump the receivers right at the line to prevent any of the short throws that the Giants had been effective with the last 4 games.

Since the o-line was obliterated, any plan the offense had went for nothing. I tracked that there 3 times the Giants tried to run a screen and twice, Manning could barely get time to even do that because the Eagles blitz was coming for Manning's head.

So what do you do? The WR's couldn't win at the line combined with the line getting blasted nearly every play. It was a bad mixture of events that all came together at the same time. Add in the penalties and poor runs when they did actually try to run, and there you have it.

As Banks said on the broadcast, "You can't scheme yourself out of a butt whoopin."

Philly's CBs can be streaky, especially Williams, but on a good day they're above average (Boykin is a solid, underrated player) and they had a good day Sunday. It was a straightforward plan to delay the receivers at the line and disrupt the timing and they did so.

The defense knew what adjustments Eli was making. They had a good plan to prevent short passes. What they did, any other defense can do unless our coaches can figure out a way to deal with it. I'm not optimistic.

A great defensive plan but if it was that easy to implement every team would do it every game but there are huge risks with that scheme. If the Oline stone walls the pressure, as soon as the wr beats the press a huge pass play can occur. 1 or 2 of those and CBs start giving a cushion again.

Key is the Oline needs to buy some time which it has been doing for the majority of the season. Hopefully this was just 1 hiccup which all teams have. 1 win from now this becomes ancient history.

He said the Eagles went five on five and do not allow the Giants to zone block. So it was basically man on man blocking and that the Eagles felt they could expose the weaknesses along the line by doing so and felt they matched up well in that regard.

Banks said that exposed the Giants offensive line going down the road. He said they have to adjust in a hurry because they can expect more of the same until they prove they can block man on man.

Cruz was still in the game, they could not get separation. The Eagles supposedly crappy DBs had them jammed up at the LOS all night.

the problem is, many times he is going backwards while rolling out.....this makes the throw farther and harder to make....there is no way you can step into the throw for accuracy by back pedaling and rolling out....and it also limits your line of sight....

They get a short down and distance and then commit a penalty or give up a sack and then it was third and long again.

The OL struggled. A lot. I think this was a great learning experience and a this performance combined with the previous 5 games shows what work in progress means.

In comment 11921056 blueblood'11 said:

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He said the Eagles went five on five and do not allow the Giants to zone block. So it was basically man on man blocking and that the Eagles felt they could expose the weaknesses along the line by doing so and felt they matched up well in that regard. Banks said that exposed the Giants offensive line going down the road. He said they have to adjust in a hurry because they can expect more of the same until they prove they can block man on man.

That's what you do to inferior talent, force them to play one on one.

It's hard to accept but I guess you can only classify it that way.

is the arizona loss. We'd be sitting pretty right now at 4-2 with just the two bad road losses. 3-3 isn't the end of the world and most here probably expected that kind of start...but the injuries are piling up and the tough part of the schedule looms. This team has to win some of these games over the next 4-5 weeks. They can't be sitting at 3-7 and expect to win out. The schedule does get easier but it will be too late to rally.

Hate to say it but this is our season. They pretty much have to win 2 of the next 4. IF they can get to 5-5 they have a shot.

Time to nut up and play some smashmouth McAdoo-style football with three-yard gains and four-yard pass plays.

Saddle up!