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NFT: HBO Go To Launch As Standalone Streaming Service

BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/15/2014 11:35 am
Finally!
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my guess is it will be the same cost  
UConn4523 : 10/15/2014 11:38 am : link
as just having HBO so it likely won't change anything for people with Cable.

That said, good for those people who don't have cable anymore.
Outstanding.  
Exit 172 : 10/15/2014 11:38 am : link
I see Optimum Broadcast Basic in my future...
Fuck Yes!  
Ben in Tampa : 10/15/2014 11:39 am : link
I will be cutting the cord on cable.
Should be cheaper than through cable,  
Randy in CT : 10/15/2014 11:40 am : link
I would think.
Beginning of the end of cable packages and cable itself  
Cam in MO : 10/15/2014 11:40 am : link
was Netflix being able to provide good, original programming.

This is a giant step closer.


Call me when the NFL does the same  
jcn56 : 10/15/2014 11:42 am : link
then I'll do the happy dance with you guys.
RE: Should be cheaper than through cable,  
Cam in MO : 10/15/2014 11:43 am : link
In comment 11921481 Randy in CT said:
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I would think.


More if they're going to provide their own infrastructure, I would think. They'll have to beef up HBOGO quite a bit if they want to add even just a million subscribers.


I don't get why  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/15/2014 11:47 am : link
they just don't offer cable via internet. They have the capability.
puts us another step closer to ditching cable  
islander1 : 10/15/2014 11:57 am : link
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This is pretty exciting.  
BeerFridge : 10/15/2014 11:58 am : link
You have to wonder when this monolithic cable subscription model has to fall. It's gotta be in the next decade at least.
If MSG ever gets an app  
Deej : 10/15/2014 12:04 pm : link
I could probably cut the cord. I can do without NFLN, ESPN etc. I watch shows on AMC and FX, but I presume those shows will eventually make it to Netflix as they do now.

I think this HBO announcement could be a game changer, but I'd expect a lot of push back from the cable companies. I could see renegotiations of how the carriers pay for HBO (more $$ to HBO) followed by limited and effectively neutered roll out of stand-alone HBOGo.
RE: Should be cheaper than through cable,  
UConn4523 : 10/15/2014 12:05 pm : link
In comment 11921481 Randy in CT said:
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I would think.


I think its $15 a month now, or $10 if its bundled. I can't imagine they go lower than that. Their library has hundreds of movies on HBO Go as well as just about every show they ever made.

With Netflix Instant being just under $10 a month, I'd say that's the absolute floor for this service.
Cable companies can still charge HBO a premium to deliver  
BeerFridge : 10/15/2014 12:13 pm : link
the bandwidth
Sports is getting closer  
moespree : 10/15/2014 12:19 pm : link
The Watch ESPN and new NFL Now channels on streaming devices, aren't quite there yet, but they're getting there. Watch ESPN allows you to see essentially all of the clips from their shows, and you can watch it live too (but only if you're a cable subscriber) which defeats the purpose...but for now. That was the way HBO Go operated too, and now it's a standalone. Watch ESPN will head that way one day too, I would assume.

NFL Now is broken into clips and highlights of the NFL Network shows. But that too will evolve, and I'm sure will allow for live viewing of the network one day soon. So, sports has lagged behind but it's starting to catch up. Cable as we knew it is not going to make it much longer.
you guys are nuts  
Scotty9678 : 10/15/2014 12:55 pm : link
If you think this is gonna be in the hulu/netflix price range.

Also yearly not monthly. Start at the Sunday ticket without directv and go up. I'm guessing $229-$249 a year.
RE: Should be cheaper than through cable,  
Scyber : 10/15/2014 1:03 pm : link
In comment 11921481 Randy in CT said:
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I would think.


Not likely. The cable companies would throw a fit if it undercut their prices significantly. Since the cable companies are HBO's biggest customers, I don't think HBO wants to piss them off.
I think HBO can potentially  
Randy in CT : 10/15/2014 1:05 pm : link
ditch them and just go streaming at some point.
RE: you guys are nuts  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/15/2014 1:09 pm : link
In comment 11921645 Scotty9678 said:
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If you think this is gonna be in the hulu/netflix price range.

Also yearly not monthly. Start at the Sunday ticket without directv and go up. I'm guessing $229-$249 a year.


Competition rules all. They are now competing with Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime etc. They don't vost nearly as close to that rate. They are going to be in 10-15 range because they can say they are a premium network.
RE: you guys are nuts  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/15/2014 1:10 pm : link
In comment 11921645 Scotty9678 said:
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If you think this is gonna be in the hulu/netflix price range.

Also yearly not monthly. Start at the Sunday ticket without directv and go up. I'm guessing $229-$249 a year.
The major issue with cord cutting...  
UAGiant : 10/15/2014 1:17 pm : link
Is that the cable providers are also the ISPs in the market, typically with a monopoly on service. I went to cut my TWC cord and just have internet earlier this year, but the cost difference between an unbundled internet-only service and their triple play (internet, phone and HD cable) was $30 a month. That equates to some $360 a year in savings, but I also would have to rely on OTA for sports and as a consultant, having a dedicated phone is extremely nice (although I acknowledge how archaic having a landline is).

This is a good step for those that don't want to have to deal with the cable providers, but some of us are in markets where there is no competition and terrible providers like Comcast and TWC are going to line their pockets on us one way or another, all while providing horrible service.

I am paying extra for "Turbo" with TWC and had to stop streaming Netflix last night because I couldn't pull more than 8 mbps down/1 mbps up. Any complaint to them will net a response telling you that these are peak hours and that using services such as that cannot be guaranteed - though I can pay $20 more for "Road Runner Extreme" - with hypothetical speeds up to twice what I have now. Between the Net Neutrality (with one of the most ironic names in recent history) laws that are being toyed with and shady activities already going on with throttling services like Netflix by certain ISPS, I'm not so sure a paradigm shift is going to happen that will be as beneficial to consumers as we would have hoped.
cord cutting  
UConn4523 : 10/15/2014 1:25 pm : link
just seems like so much trouble for very minimal savings for people like me that watch a lot of TV. Can't imagine the hassle, the limits, the time.

Kudos to those that can.
RE: I think HBO can potentially  
schabadoo : 10/15/2014 1:31 pm : link
In comment 11921677 Randy in CT said:
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ditch them and just go streaming at some point.


And they can watch the cable companies throttle their speeds down like they do to Netflix.

No Net Neutrality and all.
Time warner (not time Warner cable) owns Hbo  
Scotty9678 : 10/15/2014 1:36 pm : link
And cnn, tbs and a few others.

The entry point for HBO will be high because if TW wants all there stations to still be available thru won't piss off the big cable companies.

This could get ugly.
Roku?  
ij_reilly : 10/15/2014 2:33 pm : link
I guess this means I'll be able to subscribe to HBO Go and see it via Roku.

I've been waiting for that!
RE: I don't get why  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/15/2014 2:42 pm : link
In comment 11921493 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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they just don't offer cable via internet. They have the capability.

Capability yes. But there isn't nearly enough bandwidth to do this. It would take probably hundreds of billions of dollars of upgrades to make that possible for everthing for everyone.
RE: The major issue with cord cutting...  
mattlawson : 10/15/2014 7:58 pm : link
In comment 11921707 UAGiant said:
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Is that the cable providers are also the ISPs in the market, typically with a monopoly on service. I went to cut my TWC cord and just have internet earlier this year, but the cost difference between an unbundled internet-only service and their triple play (internet, phone and HD cable) was $30 a month. That equates to some $360 a year in savings, but I also would have to rely on OTA for sports and as a consultant, having a dedicated phone is extremely nice (although I acknowledge how archaic having a landline is).

This is a good step for those that don't want to have to deal with the cable providers, but some of us are in markets where there is no competition and terrible providers like Comcast and TWC are going to line their pockets on us one way or another, all while providing horrible service.

I am paying extra for "Turbo" with TWC and had to stop streaming Netflix last night because I couldn't pull more than 8 mbps down/1 mbps up. Any complaint to them will net a response telling you that these are peak hours and that using services such as that cannot be guaranteed - though I can pay $20 more for "Road Runner Extreme" - with hypothetical speeds up to twice what I have now. Between the Net Neutrality (with one of the most ironic names in recent history) laws that are being toyed with and shady activities already going on with throttling services like Netflix by certain ISPS, I'm not so sure a paradigm shift is going to happen that will be as beneficial to consumers as we would have hoped.



Verizon Fios.
So...  
illmatic : 10/15/2014 8:08 pm : link
Is this going to be the same watered down version of HBO Go that Amazon has? I mean, it's great to at least have it as an option for people to check out the shows they offer. But it kind of sucks that they don't really get a lot of the new stuff on there.
RE: So...  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/15/2014 9:38 pm : link
In comment 11922362 illmatic said:
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Is this going to be the same watered down version of HBO Go that Amazon has? I mean, it's great to at least have it as an option for people to check out the shows they offer. But it kind of sucks that they don't really get a lot of the new stuff on there.

Amazon doesn't have HBO Go. They buy access to some HBO content, but on about a 1 year delay for series currently in production.

Actual HBO Go has the currently airing shows. Also has movies for streaming.
CBS all access is coming online too  
GMenLTS : 10/16/2014 2:02 pm : link
It's so refreshing to think we might actually, finally be on our way to cable a la carte.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: CBS all access is coming online too  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/16/2014 3:15 pm : link
In comment 11923501 GMenLTS said:
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It's so refreshing to think we might actually, finally be on our way to cable a la carte. Link - ( New Window )

Note: Does not include NFL games that are on CBS.
RE: The major issue with cord cutting...  
SwirlingEddie : 10/16/2014 4:06 pm : link
In comment 11921707 UAGiant said:
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Is that the cable providers are also the ISPs in the market, typically with a monopoly on service.
<snip>


I'm in the same boat. The only broadband provider here is Comcast and I'm even too far from Albany to get a decent OTA signal. We did choose to cut our cable subscription back to the minimum and we now pay for a few extra shows On Demand, but it's still a meaningful savings. Just wish we could cut out cable all together.
Why is this big news?  
Knineteen : 10/16/2014 5:41 pm : link
$20/m for HBO
$10/m for Netflix
$10/m for Hulu
$8/m for Amazon Prime

That's almost the cost of a cable subscription!
Not in Canada  
Jay in Toronto : 10/16/2014 9:32 pm : link
programming is bundled in sub-packages
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