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NFT: Political correctness gone wild: Carmen banned in Australia

Marty in Albany : 10/16/2014 9:44 am
because the opera depicts smoking. (Carmen works in a cigarette factory.)
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is that political correctness or public health correctness  
chris r : 10/16/2014 9:46 am : link
?
Either way it's idiotic.  
Crispino : 10/16/2014 9:48 am : link
Is it a pro smoking opera?
Is it likely to cause someone to smoke? Please.
I think they have a point  
Greg from LI : 10/16/2014 9:51 am : link
With all those kids out there who are huge opera fans, that's a lot of impressionable minds who could be swayed by Carmen!
RE: I think they have a point  
MadPlaid : 10/16/2014 9:57 am : link
In comment 11922764 Greg from LI said:
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With all those kids out there who are huge opera fans, that's a lot of impressionable minds who could be swayed by Carmen!


LOL. Word
The Joe Carmen ads promoting the opera  
Bill L : 10/16/2014 10:06 am : link
are over the top.
My girlfriend went vegetarian  
wigs in nyc : 10/16/2014 10:09 am : link
and made me throw out The Jungle.
The reason PC spreads  
oipolloi : 10/16/2014 10:46 am : link
Is that people tend to see certain forms of banning as ridiculous but then support banning the stuff they don't like. Usually by claiming that it is not banning and arguing that they are moved by other concerns, such as stopping the spread of smoking or protecting children or showing respect to the flag or avoiding giving offense to a certain group of people.
the thread title  
ray in arlington : 10/16/2014 11:31 am : link
gives the impression that the opera is banned throughout the country.

what happened is that an opera company had a 2-year sponsorship deal with the Austrlian public health ministry, and agreed they wouldn't stage it during that time.

anyway the opera should be banned for domestic violence (since Carmen is killed by a guy after she dumps him for a bullfighter).
Waitt,  
Pete in MD : 10/16/2014 11:34 am : link
I thought that opera was about drinking Pepsi.
We  
Big Al : 10/16/2014 11:39 am : link
Need more pc operas like The Death of Klinghoffer.
RE: I think they have a point  
njm : 10/16/2014 11:40 am : link
In comment 11922764 Greg from LI said:
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With all those kids out there who are huge opera fans, that's a lot of impressionable minds who could be swayed by Carmen!


Greg for the win. Well played.
Spoiler alert!  
Section331 : 10/16/2014 11:41 am : link
Thanks Ray!
Elina Garanca singing the Habanera from Carmen -  
Ira : 10/16/2014 11:56 am : link
in case anyone's curious.
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If they banned all smoking movies, I don't think there'd be any movies  
Anakim : 10/16/2014 1:00 pm : link
aired from the pre-1970's
I'm  
pjcas18 : 10/16/2014 1:00 pm : link
outraged
That's another good point  
Greg from LI : 10/16/2014 1:01 pm : link
Carmen involves bullfighting, which IMO is FAR more offensive than smoking.....yet apparently that's A-OK.
It also  
ray in arlington : 10/16/2014 1:19 pm : link
stereotypically shows gypsies engaged in a criminal enterprise (smuggling)

and there are also unsupervised children marching around with fake weapons
Maybe we should have a government agency  
ed90631 : 10/16/2014 10:45 pm : link
that reviews plays, scripts, TV shows and any other type of media. We can hire a committee of 24 blue-nosed busybodies who know what's best for us better than we do and let them ban anything they don't think we should see.

It wouldn't be censorship because...(?)...um, because its to protect the kids. and the handicapped.
So Carmen wasn't banned in Australia  
sphinx : 10/16/2014 11:25 pm : link
.

RE: My girlfriend went vegetarian  
BMac : 10/17/2014 7:35 am : link
In comment 11922806 wigs in nyc said:
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and made me throw out The Jungle.


Poor Jurgis. He should have worked harder!
RE: If they banned all smoking movies, I don't think there'd be any movies  
BMac : 10/17/2014 7:37 am : link
In comment 11923326 Anakim said:
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aired from the pre-1970's


Senator Ortolan Finistirre agrees, and he's ready to do something about it.
Now if they banned Opera  
Headhunter : 10/17/2014 7:53 am : link
because it is boring and pretentious, I'd sign on for that
As if you've ever been to one,  
BlueLou : 10/17/2014 9:50 am : link
HH?
I think opera is terrific  
ray in arlington : 10/17/2014 10:00 am : link
and I'm glad my family (w/ kids) has had opportunities to see it.
Dumb  
Mad Mike : 10/17/2014 10:11 am : link
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RE: Elina Garanca singing the Habanera from Carmen -  
BlueLou : 10/17/2014 5:49 pm : link
In comment 11923129 Ira said:
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in case anyone's curious. Link - ( New Window )


Ira, I was living in Manhattan in the late '70s and had cable access to PBS's radio broadcast series "Live at the Met." Cassette taped a version of Carmen conducted by James Levine featuring Agnes Baltsa, Jose Carreras, Leona Mitchell and Samuel Ramey in the lead roles, and it's probably my single most listened to piece of music of all time except maybe Miles' "Kind of Blue".

It was an iconic performance of Carmen apparently and DG recorded it to vinyl, and remains one of the "standards" by which other ensembles and other performances of Carmen are judged. Baltsa's very spicy "Habanera" linked for your pleasure...

Hope it doesn't bore you!
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I kid about opera  
Headhunter : 10/17/2014 7:40 pm : link
it is been around a long time and will be around a lot longer. I appreciate the gift of the great Tenors through the ages
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